| ddecator | kermiac: ha | 00:10 |
|---|---|---|
| * kermiac waves at Dray... I'm still waking up hehe | 00:12 | |
| * ddecator waves at Mitch | 00:12 | |
| maxwellian | Darxus: So what do you think, do you have time to look into this further? | 01:49 |
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| bbordwell | Hello, I have a bug with update-manager that causes xorg to use 100% cpu usage for minutes at a time, but I am unfamiliar with triaging update-manager or xorg. Does anyone have any ideas on how I could provide helpful information? | 05:23 |
| bbordwell | I will be right back I have to restart my computer | 05:25 |
| Takyoji | Anyone heard of an issue of the pointer going hidden in 10.04? | 06:08 |
| Takyoji | Also, what would be the appropriate logs to file for a bug report? | 06:13 |
| Takyoji | Considering it seems X11-related, last time I remedied the issue by having to reset the cursor theme system-wide, yet the issue is back again.. | 06:14 |
| trinikrono | ddecator: ping | 06:25 |
| ddecator | trinikrono: pong | 06:25 |
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| bbordwell | Is anyone here experienced in triaging update-manager bugs? | 07:27 |
| bbordwell | mvo, can you help me with an update-manager bug? | 07:29 |
| mvo | bbordwell: hey, sorry for the delay. yeah, I can help with that | 08:01 |
| bbordwell | mvo, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/595845 | 08:02 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 595845 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "During "Building data structures" when starting the update-manager Xorg takes up 100% cpu (affects: 4) (heat: 20)" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 08:02 |
| bbordwell | I have no idea how to debug problems with update-manager though | 08:02 |
| mvo | bbordwell: that is a interessting one - can you reproduce it? | 08:03 |
| bbordwell | mvo, yep on my maverick install | 08:03 |
| mvo | bbordwell: nice! that is a great first step | 08:03 |
| mvo | bbordwell: could you please do "bzr get lp:update-manager" ? I will add a little bit of code and we can see if the problem goes away then | 08:04 |
| bbordwell | mvo, I am going to boot into my maverick install realy quick. | 08:04 |
| bbordwell | brb | 08:04 |
| bbordwell | mvo, alright I am back, could you please resend that last message? | 08:06 |
| mvo | bbordwell: could you please do "bzr get lp:update-manager" ? I will add a little bit of code and we can see if the problem goes away then | 08:07 |
| bbordwell | It says fetching revisions.... | 08:10 |
| bbordwell | ahh done | 08:10 |
| bbordwell | mvo, ^ | 08:11 |
| mvo | bbordwell: ok, now cd into update-manager and run bzr pull | 08:12 |
| mvo | bbordwell: I'm pushing some new code now, but its not yet on the server | 08:12 |
| mvo | bbordwell: but once its there you can run "PYTHONPATH=. ./update-manager" | 08:12 |
| mvo | bbordwell: now its there, rev 1867 | 08:13 |
| bbordwell | says now on revision 1866 | 08:13 |
| mvo | bbordwell: please run the bzr pull again, probably a little bit of lack on the server :) | 08:14 |
| bbordwell | mvo, 1867 | 08:14 |
| mvo | cool, please run that and let me know if it helps | 08:15 |
| bbordwell | just run update-manager, no compiling or anything? | 08:16 |
| mvo | yes | 08:16 |
| mvo | PYTHONPATH=. ./update-manager | 08:16 |
| mvo | that should be enough | 08:16 |
| bbordwell | mvo, well it made building dependency tree much faster but I still got about 1 min of 100% cpu usage on building data structures | 08:19 |
| bbordwell | (before it took 8 min to build dependency tree, now about 15 sec) | 08:20 |
| mvo | bbordwell: ok, how much items is it displaying for you? | 08:20 |
| mvo | bbordwell: 8min? *jesus* | 08:20 |
| mvo | bbordwell: so that looks like a good improvment :) | 08:20 |
| mvo | bbordwell: what graphic driver is this? | 08:21 |
| bbordwell | novuea | 08:21 |
| bbordwell | items? you mean updates? | 08:21 |
| mvo | yes, sorry. how big is the list? | 08:21 |
| bbordwell | empty | 08:21 |
| mvo | oh, ok | 08:21 |
| bbordwell | Just from starting it up, not checking for updates | 08:22 |
| bbordwell | though it does the same thing after i check | 08:22 |
| * \vish wonders if this issue is the same as Bug #355355 | 08:24 | |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 355355 in synaptic (Ubuntu) "Update Manager causes high Xorg CPU usage when checking for updates (affects: 9) (dups: 1) (heat: 31)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/355355 | 08:24 |
| \vish | but the package was changed since the user mentioned it was synaptic.. maybe its the "progress bars" causing the havoc | 08:25 |
| bbordwell | \vish, synaptic works fine for me | 08:26 |
| \vish | oh well.. | 08:26 |
| bbordwell | also command line and software center work fine. | 08:26 |
| mvo | \vish: I think its something with the progressbar being called to often | 08:27 |
| mvo | \vish: at lesat part of the problem | 08:27 |
| \vish | yeah , i notice similar spike in CPU with the progress bars in firefox when using tabplus | 08:27 |
| bbordwell | mvo, on building data structures the progress bar is all the way full, if it is not moving is it still calling it? | 08:27 |
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| mvo | bbordwell: I just commited some profiling code, could you please pull (r1868) and run it again? it should print some timing stats | 08:30 |
| bbordwell | mvo, If its relavent this is on an intel e5200 (2.50ghz dual core 2mb cache) | 08:36 |
| mvo | bbordwell: I commited another performance fix, it will not affect you because your list is empty, but it helped my system a great deal | 08:38 |
| bbordwell | initCache: 301.428235054 | 08:38 |
| bbordwell | UpdateList: 0.0381588935852 | 08:38 |
| bbordwell | saveDistUpgrade: 0.201518058777 | 08:38 |
| bbordwell | list.update(): 0.956443071365 | 08:38 |
| mvo | bbordwell: thanks! (and thanks for the cpu info, the important bit of me is that its pretty modern) | 08:39 |
| bbordwell | mvo, I am afraid you are going to lose me soon I have to go to work but i should have about 10 more min. | 08:41 |
| mvo | bbordwell: that helps, so the initCache is the culprit, I send you more update and then we can continue anytime you want :) | 08:41 |
| mvo | bbordwell: I'm usually around in irc at european hours | 08:42 |
| mvo | bbordwell: r1870 is comming | 08:42 |
| bbordwell | well I may be back in around 5 hours I will check to see if you are around. Otherwise my launchpad Id is ~benbordwell so feel free to send me an email I will do what I can to help | 08:45 |
| bbordwell | bye | 08:45 |
| mvo | thanks bbordwell, I think the original bug that Xorg takes too much cpu is worked around now | 08:45 |
| mvo | bbordwell: bye | 08:45 |
| BUGabundo_remote | morning, spiders | 09:12 |
| trinikrono | chilicuil: ping | 10:24 |
| chilicuil | trinikrono: pong | 10:25 |
| trinikrono | chilicuil: did you install qa-tools package? | 10:25 |
| chilicuil | yep, trinikrono why? | 10:25 |
| trinikrono | are you just not closing bugs for the hugday then | 10:25 |
| chilicuil | I'm trying to help in the hug day, as a first step to become more involved with ubuntu, trinikrono | 10:28 |
| trinikrono | do you use hugday close ###### | 10:29 |
| trinikrono | after you hugged the bug | 10:29 |
| chilicuil | yep trinikrono | 10:30 |
| trinikrono | do we have anyone that deals with kernel bugs online | 10:42 |
| BUGabundo_remote | trinikrono: the kernel team? try #ubuntu-kernel | 10:53 |
| OwaisL | hey, I'm working on this gmail notifier with support for multiple accounts. I am facing a problem I'm opening Gmail in the browser using python's webbrowser module and gmail logs in the user automatically based on previous/current session....desired behavior is that Gmail for the notified account should open....so i need a way to logout of gmail, then login to the desired account all inside the browser...any ideas? | 11:16 |
| chilicuil | hi, I'm still trying to triage for the hug day, I wonder if I can assign the bug #368551 to the initramfs-tools package | 11:32 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 368551 in ubuntu "Ubuntu 9.04 does not run vgchange before mounting filesystems (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/368551 | 11:33 |
| chilicuil | marking a bug as "fix releases" is the same as closing the bug?, I'm trying to close the bug #371012 | 12:03 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 371012 in ubuntu "Unable to lock screen using Ctrl+Alt+l if "Show pointer when Ctrl is pressed" option enabled (affects: 3) (dups: 2) (heat: 16)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/371012 | 12:03 |
| ^arky^ | hi mvo | 12:03 |
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| ^arky^ | what is upstream of emacs-snapshot package? | 12:11 |
| chilicuil | ^arky^: not sure, but I think it could be http://emacs.orebokech.com/ | 12:23 |
| ^arky^ | chilicuil, thx let me check that out | 12:23 |
| chilicuil | ^arky^: np :) | 12:23 |
| chilicuil | I've found that some of the bugs listed by $ hugday list --filter open $ should be closed, can I close them even if I didn't triaged them? | 12:26 |
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| chilicuil | since using $ hugday close #### $ would "close" that bugs giving unfairly the credit to me, I think I'm gonna go to modify the wiki directly... | 12:40 |
| chilicuil | do you think I should assign the bug #601036 to the kwin package?, it's a mixup between an incomplete report (in my own opinion) and a support request, should I convert it to a question instead? | 13:18 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 601036 in ubuntu " Compositing problems on each login! (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/601036 | 13:18 |
| micahg | vish: you know chromium is supposed to be part of the default netbook install, right? | 13:19 |
| vish | micahg: yup | 13:27 |
| micahg | vish: so why did you say chromium isn't part of the default install? | 13:27 |
| vish | micahg: "desktop". | 13:28 |
| vish | hmm , did i miss that word.. baH! | 13:28 |
| vish | micahg: btw , i wanted to ask you why is firefox description in SC odd , in list view the name "firefox" is below | 13:29 |
| vish | and doesnt have the icon | 13:29 |
| micahg | vish: I don't know what you mean | 13:32 |
| vish | micahg: search "firefox" in software center | 13:32 |
| micahg | oh, it seems like the description and name are switched :( | 13:32 |
| vish | yeah :s | 13:32 |
| micahg | vish: can you check in Maverick to see if it's fixed? | 13:33 |
| vish | micahg: i'm on lucid too , will check in VM | 13:33 |
| vish | micahg: yup , seems fixed in Maverick , but the description is different from Lucid mentions packagin bits | 13:49 |
| vish | rather branding bits | 13:49 |
| vish | micahg: can we get Bug 602820 fixed? improve the description for firefox? or is that not allowed? | 13:55 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 602820 in hundredpapercuts "firefox description in software center is geek and not at all complete (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Wishlist,Opinion] https://launchpad.net/bugs/602820 | 13:55 |
| micahg | vish: that's not firefox though, it's the branding | 13:57 |
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| vish | micahg: hmm. but seems to show up first when we search for "firefox" , which is the firefox one? | 13:58 |
| micahg | vish: firefox | 13:59 |
| vish | even searching for "abrowser" , shows only firefox | 13:59 |
| micahg | vish: I get abrowser when I search for abrowser | 14:00 |
| vish | micahg: oh ! wait it is hidden in M | 14:00 |
| vish | micahg: the problem is not solved , the description problem is not solved. , the wrong item is being hidden | 14:01 |
| micahg | vish: which problem now? | 14:01 |
| vish | hmm , let me get the screenshot | 14:02 |
| vish | hehe , SC and its new features! ;p | 14:05 |
| vish | micahg: it appears as the browser > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1325768/Screenshot.png | 14:05 |
| micahg | vish: that's in maverick? | 14:05 |
| vish | micahg: but when i click the "technical items" > this shows http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1325768/Screenshot-1.png | 14:05 |
| micahg | vish: which package is on top there? | 14:06 |
| vish | micahg: by default the technical items are hidden , see just above the SC status bar "20 other technical items" in the first screenshot | 14:07 |
| vish | that is the branding one on top | 14:07 |
| micahg | vish: k, go ahead and open a firefox task and update the title to show it's the branding that has the issue | 14:08 |
| vish | micahg: however ,the browser one shows up only when we select the "technical items" , it has the problem of the reversed deccriptions | 14:08 |
| vish | micahg: sure thanks. | 14:08 |
| vish | micahg: do you want 2bugs . one for the description switch and one for the branding package showing up? or both can be dealt in the same? | 14:10 |
| micahg | vish: no, I think the branding package should be hidden by default at least for Firefox | 14:11 |
| vish | yesh | 14:11 |
| om26er | qense, I closed the bugzilla bug then at irc was told to not. and now the decision is "Chat on Google Talk, Facebook, MSN, and many other chat services." is it fine? | 14:18 |
| qense | om26er: That is fine with me. | 14:19 |
| om26er | qense, and its committed now :) | 14:21 |
| qense | good! | 14:21 |
| qense | thanks for looking into it | 14:21 |
| km0r3 | what to do with bugs that were nominated for older releases but never have been triage, like this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/360743 ? | 15:26 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 360743 in ubuntu "screen flickering with enabled "Scale In" desktop effect (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] | 15:26 |
| pedro_ | km0r3, may you ask the reporters for reproduction of the issue on Lucid or Maverick? | 15:31 |
| pedro_ | km0r3, looks like a video driver issue to me, what do you think? | 15:31 |
| pedro_ | km0r3, the nomination needs to be rejected though, have a look to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates | 15:32 |
| pedro_ | km0r3, i can do that for you since it needs special rights (being part of ubuntu-drivers team) | 15:32 |
| km0r3 | pedro_: Yes, I can ask if it's reproducable on newer releases. | 15:37 |
| km0r3 | pedro_: I'm not sure. It seems to be hare-specifc, tough | 15:37 |
| km0r3 | pedro_: I would be grateful if you could reject the nomination :-) | 15:38 |
| km0r3 | s/hare-specific/hardware-specific | 15:38 |
| pedro_ | km0r3, ok ill do that for you now | 15:38 |
| pedro_ | km0r3, right nvidia-XXX | 15:39 |
| pedro_ | km0r3, also please re assign it to nvidia-graphics-drivers-180 ; if that's reproducible with a newer release it needs to be moved to the current driver package | 15:41 |
| pedro_ | km0r3, thanks for helping :-) | 15:41 |
| km0r3 | pedro_: ok, I will re-assign it. | 15:43 |
| km0r3 | pedro_: Oh no, thanks to you pedro_ for helping! :-) | 15:44 |
| ogra | pedro_, could you do the arm team a favor and approve Tobin Davis for bug-control ? | 16:22 |
| ogra | he is our main QA guy but cant triage our bugs | 16:22 |
| ogra | i think he applied for ubuntu-bugcontrol quite a while ago | 16:23 |
| ogra | or bdmurray ^^^ | 16:24 |
| hggdh | ogra: LP id? | 16:24 |
| ogra | https://edge.launchpad.net/~gruemaster | 16:24 |
| hggdh | ogra: looking at it now | 16:25 |
| ogra | thanks | 16:25 |
| ogra | would reduce the worload on other team members a lot | 16:25 |
| ogra | *workload | 16:25 |
| ogra | since he always needs to ping us for adjusting status etc | 16:25 |
| pedro_ | ogra, added , thanks for ping us | 16:26 |
| pedro_ | hggdh, beat you! :-P | 16:26 |
| ogra | pedro_, thanks a lot | 16:26 |
| hggdh | pedro_: quickest draw on the west ;-) | 16:26 |
| * ogra hugs pedro_ and hggdh | 16:26 | |
| * pedro_ hugs ogra | 16:26 | |
| hggdh | ogra: our pleasure, sir | 16:26 |
| ogra | :) | 16:26 |
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| hggdh | pedro_: wouldn't it be a good idea to add ubuntu-mobile-dev to -control (as we have core-devs)? | 16:45 |
| pedro_ | hggdh, not sure on adding teams to the bugcontrol would be good | 16:48 |
| pedro_ | though the team is not big and there's only one person there which is not member of the bugcontrol | 16:49 |
| hggdh | pedro_: yes, and they are, sort of, core devs also | 16:49 |
| pedro_ | well two actually | 16:49 |
| vish | pedro_: hi , did the meeting reminder go to the BC list as well? some mentors might be only on BC list | 16:49 |
| pedro_ | vish, ooops | 16:50 |
| vish | pedro_: thanks | 16:50 |
| pedro_ | vish, sending it now, thanks for the reminder | 16:50 |
| pedro_ | hggdh, right | 16:50 |
| pedro_ | vish, done | 16:51 |
| vish | ty | 16:51 |
| pedro_ | yw | 16:51 |
| hggdh | pedro_: but, anyway: we would have to have an agreement here, and then contact them and ask about it | 16:52 |
| pedro_ | hggdh, is there any policy for becoming part of that team or you need to be a canonical employee? | 16:54 |
| pedro_ | if there's a clear policy about it, i guess i'm ok | 16:54 |
| pedro_ | like for core-devs | 16:54 |
| hggdh | pedro_: I am not aware of any hard policy, unfortunately. This is why I raised it to you in the first place ;-) | 16:54 |
| pedro_ | otherwise i'd prefer them to apply to the ubuntu bugcontrol team like everybody else | 16:55 |
| hggdh | but this is a new team, and I am not sure we ever thought about this type of scenario before | 16:55 |
| pedro_ | hggdh, ah well i don't know about that :-P | 16:55 |
| pedro_ | we can always ask though and then take a decision about it | 16:55 |
| hggdh | pedro_: let's leave it aside for a while, then. We could discuss (perhaps offline) it on the sprint | 16:56 |
| pedro_ | hggdh, sounds good ;-) | 16:56 |
| nigelb | pedro_: poke? | 17:11 |
| nigelb | can you give me the last if bug squad pages that talk about patches? | 17:11 |
| nigelb | I want to add information about patch review if those pages turn up | 17:11 |
| nigelb | s/last/list | 17:13 |
| nigelb | and if I can make it I'll probably bring it up at the meeting too :) | 17:13 |
| yofel | the main one should be https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Patches | 17:13 |
| nigelb | aha | 17:14 |
| nigelb | I love dholbach - he already got to them :) | 17:15 |
| yofel | heh | 17:16 |
| yofel | asking again as #launchpad seems asleep: can someone else check if they see the comment from 'lau' on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/283168 ? It isn't shown on the main page but only in the full activity log here. | 17:18 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 283168 in ubuntu "gfloppy write permission denied with external usb floppy (affects: 1) (heat: 7)" [Low,Incomplete] | 17:18 |
| pedro_ | yofel, i don't see anything from 'lau' there | 17:20 |
| yofel | in the activity log I get: | 17:21 |
| yofel | 2009-02-21 14:20:31 lau (lbives: 0) None: status New Incomplete | 17:21 |
| yofel | 2009-02-21 14:20:31 lau (lbives: 0) None: statusexplanation you also get the issue using the command line tools so the issue is not a gnome-utils one | 17:21 |
| yofel | I was irritated first as the discussion had a hole somehow | 17:22 |
| pedro_ | is "Mohamed Amine IL Idrissi" around ? | 17:22 |
| pedro_ | yofel, yeap , the message didn't make it to the bug report ui... | 17:23 |
| * yofel goes digging through malone bugs... | 17:24 | |
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| hggdh | pedro_, bdmurray: can you please review https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugControl and correct/reprimand me as needed? | 18:37 |
| ddecator | hggdh: <<#Generic-reqs>> isn't supposed to be visible i'm guessing? | 18:38 |
| hggdh | darn! | 18:38 |
| ddecator | :) | 18:38 |
| hggdh | good catch, ddecator, thank you | 18:40 |
| nigelb | hggdh: whats goin on? | 19:02 |
| hggdh | nigelb: we are adjusting membership to bug-control to accept teams | 19:18 |
| nigelb | hggdh: Oh | 19:18 |
| nigelb | hggdh: thats nice | 19:19 |
| nigelb | that way development teams can have access immediately | 19:19 |
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| nigelb | hggdh: one smalll change made :) | 19:27 |
| hggdh | nigelb: thanks | 19:27 |
| vish | " Requirement 4 can be waived if you are an upstream developer / bug triager or if an Ubuntu developer vouches for you and your ability to triage bug reports. " | 19:29 |
| vish | hggdh: is that or if , or and if? | 19:29 |
| vish | " triager or if an " | 19:30 |
| vish | " if an Ubuntu developer vouches for you and your ability to triage bug reports" could just mean anyone can vouch one in if they are a U-developer | 19:31 |
| hggdh | vish: missing a comma | 19:32 |
| vish | hggdh: oh , didnt know that U-developers can just vouch for BC members , cool! | 19:33 |
| nhandler | Might be worth defining what an Ubuntu developer is (probably a member of ~ubuntu-dev) | 19:47 |
| nigelb | Just link ubuntu developer to the launchpad team page | 19:47 |
| bdmurray | nigelb: I'm not certain what you are trying to link to at UbuntuBugControl but it isn't working | 20:43 |
| nigelb | bdmurray: I'm try it to not be a link | 20:44 |
| nigelb | and it is working | 20:44 |
| nigelb | bdmurray: also new subscription script seems to be a bit agressive. I'll give you specifics in a mail soon | 20:45 |
| bdmurray | nigelb: okay in the other parts of the page I had used the term "Ubuntu Bug Control" to avoid any confusion. | 20:45 |
| nigelb | ah, thats why it happened only once! | 20:46 |
| bdmurray | nigelb: the new subscription script isn't doing anything afaik | 20:46 |
| nigelb | I get 2 sets of mails | 20:46 |
| nigelb | I'm guessing one set is the new one | 20:46 |
| bdmurray | in your email please include the full email, including headers, for each message | 20:47 |
| nigelb | ok, will do | 20:47 |
| hggdh | bdmurray: thank you for the revision | 21:48 |
| bdmurray | hggdh: thank you for writing it ;-) | 21:50 |
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