[00:56] boooo [03:50] Evening gents [03:51] Hey doctormo [03:52] Enjoying this education conference :-D [03:52] what are you up to this evening nhandler? [03:52] doctormo: Working on taking some ClassBot code to automate a section of the UWN [03:53] nice [03:55] nhandler: Does this mean an easier time to organise our classes? [03:56] doctormo: The script I'm working on will automate the Upcoming Meetings section of the UWN. The classes/meetings will still be organized on icals [07:24] good morning [07:24] morning dholbach [07:25] hey ddecator [07:29] Morning everyone :) [07:30] hey kim0 - how are you doing? [07:30] dholbach, enjoying this fine day sir :) [07:30] How about yourself [07:31] I must say I'm quite a bit tired :) [07:31] but I went for a run this morning, so I'm a bit more awake now [07:31] I hope the breakfast will fix the rest :) [07:32] hehe :D [07:33] morning kim0 :) [07:33] ddecator, Morning :) [08:08] akgraner, pleia2, nhandler: if you find out who added the UDW slots to the calendar initially, please tell them to not make them a recurring event of something else - it's what crashed lernid [08:08] bug 603248 (and https://bugzilla.osafoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12415) [08:08] Launchpad bug 603248 in python-vobject (Ubuntu) (and 3 other projects) "lernid crashed with ParseError in stringToDateTime() (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 20)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/603248 [08:08] bugzilla.osafoundation.org bug 12415 in Import/Export "Import of Google Calendar ICAL file fails with "year is out of range" parse error" [Normal,New] [08:08] I'll recreate the event in the calendar now [08:15] I hate it when I feel like I could be replaced with a script :) === \vish is now known as vish [08:31] damn, lernid still crashes [08:31] dholbach: if you're still adding, I think you want to add Event: Ubuntu Developer Week [08:32] pleia2: where do I add that? [08:32] in the Description [08:32] all you want is: [08:32] Event: Ubuntu Developer Week [08:32] Instructor: dholbach [08:32] aha [08:32] the old one didn't have that either [08:32] and if there are helpers, Helpers: akgraner [08:32] * dholbach tries that [08:32] look at the User Days ones on Saturday :) [08:33] I'll try that, let's see if we get it fixed now :) [08:34] and "Where" should be the only place you put a location (there is no Location:) [08:34] "Where" should just be #ubuntu-classroom on irc.freenode.net [08:35] (ClassBot reads that, so it knows it's #ubuntu-classroom rather than the spanish classroom or something) [08:35] does it understand "#ubuntu-classroom and #ubuntu-classroom-chat on freenode.net" [08:36] that's in there right now [08:36] I don't think so [08:36] -chat might confuse it [08:36] so "#ubuntu-classroom on irc.freenode.net"? [08:36] yep [08:36] or just " #ubuntu-classroom"? [08:36] #ubuntu-classroom on irc.freenode.net [08:36] thanks [08:37] we should have a script that does this :) [08:37] pull Agenda: too, not sure what Classbot will do with that (it should just ignore it, but we haven't throughly tested) [08:37] too easy to get wrong, too much manual work [08:37] ok [08:37] yeah, I agree [08:38] I only get it right because I've done so much testing, all stuck in my head now ;) [08:38] and for the time being at least documented :) [08:38] pleia2: ok, so you need to do it! :-P [08:38] lol [08:39] I can doublecheck things tomorrow (both the schedule and the syntax) and fix anything that's astray :) [08:39] should get some sleep now [08:39] do it or document it ;-) [08:39] pleia2: yeah, I was wondering why you were still awake :) [08:39] pleia2: good night :) [08:39] yeah, or that [08:40] thanks, have a nice day :) [08:40] thanks :) [08:40] * dholbach hugs pleia2 [08:40] I hope it'll work now :) [08:41] * pleia2 hugs [08:41] good luck! [08:43] thanks [08:48] ok, still no dice [08:48] * dholbach dives into the code :-( [09:19] hola randa_ [09:19] hi dholbach [09:24] is it just me, or is http://planet.ubuntu.com/ looking a bit light on logos at the top? [09:55] hola folks [09:56] AlanBell: something is missing. I'm guessing the ubuntu logo [09:58] Was it already using the new logo? [09:58] no, don't think so [09:59] Maybe a good time to fix that now. [10:04] I think they are fixing it now [10:04] Riddel's blog post is awesome btw [10:13] akgraner, pleia2, nhandler: whoever added the recurring ubuntu app developer events in september, please tell them not to use those recurring events, I deleted them - it kills python-vobject [10:15] * dholbach creates an account for upstream bug tracker [10:26] aloha [10:27] hi czajkowski [10:27] folks liked the ubuntu cds i gave out yesterday [10:27] few even trying the live cd [10:27] seems matthew barker fropm canonical will also be here [10:29] rocking :)} [10:35] anyone got the link the open source cartoon made ? [11:08] hehe , today's new fun trivia dholbach just accepts hugs without any questions :p [11:08] :) [11:17] when? what? where? [12:05] nigelb: there was a flash group hug in -desktop , and d-holbach was mentioned in the hug , but he wasnt in that room , someone just popped into -devel and hugged d-holbach , and dam! no questions asked d-holbach hugged back :D [12:13] vish: when you say dholbach and hugs, I remember that video from one of the uds's [12:13] nigelb: me too! :) [12:31] gah, what the heck, I decided to hold an Ubuntu hour :) [12:32] nigelb: :) [12:32] nigelb: grats, my friend [12:32] paultag: :) [14:00] Man, I'm bored. [14:00] paultag: I wish I had your problems [14:00] paultag: When sending that mail to our LoCo, please also elaborate a bit about what tasks a LoCo can have. Some of the fiercest resistance against opening up is coming from a few moderators who feel Ubuntu NL == forums. [14:00] I'm working at Boston College. I am almost done with a degree in Comp-Sci, and I do research in algorithms for fun. [14:01] Guess what they have me doing? Writing up text for a website [14:01] dholbach: :/ [14:01] qense: You got it :) [14:01] thanks! [14:02] dholbach: me too! [14:02] paultag: hahaha [14:02] it sucks nigelb [14:02] I have a degree in comp-sci, not english [14:02] paultag: Its much more intersting to write the functionality of the site [14:03] nigelb: they asked me to write a progress tracker for recovering servers [14:03] nigelb: I had it done in less then a day [14:03] paultag: give them some time [14:03] they pr [14:03] nigelb: I said "What's next?" They told me they thought it would take me the whole summer, so I should just work on teh website [14:04] they probably never had a kid just out of college who started speaking C before english [14:04] nigelb: I guess so. So here I am, sitting at my desk, writing about frak I don't know [14:04] heh [14:04] don't reveal your weakness :p [14:05] just to note: mojitos and cider do not mix at all [14:05] qense: sorry it's taking too long RE email, we're down two loco council members for a few days. [14:05] And that there is council person #1 [14:05] down and out because of Cider. I thought you were irish czajkowski? [14:05] paultag: Doesn't matter. It's almost World Cup final anyway, so it's not like much people are payinga ttention. [14:06] heh [14:06] qense: true! [14:06] paultag: yummy english cider [14:06] Germans are hunting for octopus recipies I heard [14:06] czajkowski: I could use a stiff glass right about now [14:06] nigelb: >:( [14:06] evil mojitos [14:06] feckin mint [14:06] The octopus said Spain, but during the Europa Cup it was right all the times, except for the finale! [14:07] Lets hope that pattern will repeat itself this time. [14:07] :) [14:07] They're already preparing the homeboats in Amsterdam. [14:07] off again [14:07] bye [14:07] qense: probably that is a pattern/ [14:07] later czajkowski :) [14:07] by czajkowski! [14:07] If you actually pay attention czajkowski isn't even that hard to spell! [14:07] Whoh, wait, what? [14:08] I can't even pronounce that [14:08] paultag: amen [14:08] If I ever met czajkowski, I would just cough and say kowski [14:08] or Laura [14:08] Laura is probably better. [14:08] true [14:09] The cz is probably a ts(j) sound [14:09] aye [14:09] somepeople can't pronounce my name :) [14:09] its a cha sound [14:09] Tagliamonte, it's not that bad if you slow it down [14:10] ha, I have trouble with Nigel all the time [14:10] pronounciation and spelling [14:10] My first name is Sense! It is so hard to tell people it is not the English word! [14:10] Although Jono is always trying really well. [14:10] paultag: polish spelling of Tchaikovsky [14:10] qense: its more like sensay right? [14:10] Pendulum: is she familiy? [14:11] Pendulum: my last name? [14:11] no, how to pronounce czajkowski [14:11] paultag: Pendulum meant laura's last name [14:11] Ahhhhhhhh [14:11] Pendulum: that makes a lot of sense [14:11] nigelb: The last 'e' is pronounced like the the letter 'a' in the British pronunciation of 'above'. [14:11] paultag: No! My parents made Sense! hah [14:11] ahem [14:11] bad joke [14:11] Ha!!! [14:12] paultag: Polish write 'Tchaikovsky' like 'Laura'? :S [14:14] ah [14:14] nvm [14:42] I'm off for the day from work. catch y'all when I get home [14:50] l8r sk8r [15:08] dholbach: No clue who did that. The learning calendar really shouldn't have : a) recurring events or b) All day events (they should be set to go from 00:00 to 23:59 instead). [15:08] nhandler: I hope vobject upstream fixes it [15:53] hi all [15:53] 'lo jono [15:54] jono, morning jono [15:54] hey :) [15:54] hey jono [15:55] hey dholbach [15:55] jono: I can't make our 1-on-1 next week [15:55] jono: just replied [15:58] * kim0 has 50+ tabs open and reading like crazy :) [15:58] kim0: irc? [15:58] nah browser [15:58] ah [15:58] if it were irc, I'd be a bot [15:59] then I may be a bot [15:59] lol :D [15:59] jono: you removed your menu bar right? (the old app,places,system menu) [16:00] kim0: I have somewhere close to 150 channels.... [16:00] jussi: ehum :) [16:01] I think that's really too much eh [16:01] I have ~100. I found the cost/benefit ratio of being in more channels not advantageous [16:01] jcastro, yep [16:01] I start with ~15, and over the course of weeks it turns into over 50, that's when I know to restart the client [16:01] +1 [16:01] jono: can you try to add the menu bar back? Tell me if that works pls. [16:01] God forbid I boot up xchat [16:01] nhandler: see thats where you need quassel's chat mointor :D [16:02] I overran the c char * that they used to store channels [16:02] jcastro, hang on, I have a call about to start [16:02] oh no worries [16:02] turns out it's a malloc(sizeof(char)*300) :/ [16:02] jono: whenever you get a chance [16:02] it's not urgent [16:02] what is the applet for the main menu again? [16:02] "menu bar" [16:02] GNOME Menu Bar is my current one [16:02] ok works fine for me [16:02] "main menu" is the logo with the down arrow [16:03] hmm, thanks! [16:03] jussi: What does the chat monitor do again? [16:03] paultag: that beats all of us [16:03] nhandler: gives you preview of all channels you're in [16:03] nigelb: not channels, chars [16:03] nigelb: nhandler beats me without a doubt [16:04] paultag: you had a channel name bigger than that? [16:04] nigelb: Yeah, that wouldn't help me [16:04] nigelb: they are all on the same line [16:04] nigelb: #foo,#bar,#baz [16:04] ahh [16:04] nhandler: I think its nice [16:04] nigelb: idiot programmer imho [16:04] paultag: haha [16:04] paultag: you can submit a patch [16:04] I filed a bug, but to no avail so far [16:05] nigelb: I don't care enough for xchat [16:05] nigelb: I'll just start using irssi more [16:05] irssi++ [16:09] can anyone using irssi heavily share his auto-start scripts (especially notification stuff) .. I wanna play/switch to it [16:10] * nigelb doesn't use notification [16:10] kim0: do you have iphone? [16:10] if so there is some script for it [16:11] nigelb, nah Android [16:11] but I meat PC notifications [16:11] like jumping tray icons and so on :D [16:12] kim0: nhandler had some stuff for it [16:12] kim0: nhandler.wordpress.com [16:13] cool checking it out [16:33] jono: User Days still isn't showing up in Lernid and it's tomorrow, how do I get this fixed? :) [16:33] I wonder if we could get rid of the need for config files [16:35] or give the classroom team access [16:35] GRRRR, user days :( [16:35] I just lost my slides [16:35] LOL [16:35] I'm not even sure jono is the right person to be bothering about this :\ [16:35] I have my stuff backed up, but the images are gone [16:35] its on his server I think? [16:35] I spent hours on them [16:35] >:( [16:35] paultag: aww :( [16:36] nigelb: I think so [16:36] pleia2: I remember doing a config file for last time [16:36] pleia2: lucky I backed up the text, but loosing those images is a shot in the gut [16:36] I started using git at work [16:36] w00t! [16:36] git rocks so hard [16:36] nigelb: I use it 100% ( unless doctormo comes up with a crazy idea and wants to use bzr ) [16:36] Yes, bzr is more awesome, but awesomeness is tied into LP, so can't use it that well [16:37] nigelb: nah, github rocks. [16:37] pleia2: I have no idea - they look just like the UDW entries [16:37] pleia2: might be worth mailing ~mbudde [16:37] paultag: github rocks [16:37] pleia2: (the lernid maintainer) [16:37] nigelb: I track whube on it [16:37] nigelb: http://github.com/whube :) [16:37] paultag: but what I meant is that the awesome features of bzr are built into LP [16:38] nigelb: Yeah [16:40] dholbach: thanks, I'll do that :) [16:40] dinner + beer is a good thing :D [16:40] jussi01: mmm, what kind of beer? [16:40] paultag: only the best finnish beer for me, Olvi! [16:41] jussi01: mmm, sounds good. What kind of beer is it? [16:41] jussi01: I see you're enjoying weekend [16:42] jussi01: ale / ipa / stout etc :) [16:42] paultag: sorry, looked elsewhere for a sec. pale lager. [16:42] *shudder* pilsner [16:42] jussi01: ah, nice :) [16:43] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beer_in_Finland [16:43] paultag: git makes it eassy for an office environment when you want thinks private and lets you host it on your own :) [16:43] nigelb: you can do the same for bzr... [16:43] paultag: wait, you wan? [16:43] nigelb: and LP is open source, so if you even wanted an internal LP instance [16:44] there are far more sucessful instances of git than bzr :p [16:44] nigelb: because git is braindead to use [16:44] nigelb: bzr takes some arguing :) [16:44] git is very cool [16:44] I wanted something very easy to use [16:44] it's my vcs of choise [16:44] naturally cve and svn got ruled out :p [16:44] erm choice [16:44] nigelb: cvs ? [16:45] s/cve/cvs [16:45] just making sure there was no fancy new vcs :) [16:45] I love what linus says about cve :P [16:45] grr [16:45] CVS! [16:46] nigelb:wtoo many vulns ;) [16:46] it's mussle memory, eh? [16:46] grrr, god I hate this lag. [16:46] yeah [16:46] * jussi shares a peice of connection speed with paultag [16:47] jussi: thanks :/, I'll need it. [16:47] paultag: I am getting scared of when I move - have to go to 3G only :( [16:47] jussi: oh noes! [16:47] jussi01: when are you moving? [16:47] about 3 weeks [16:47] jussi: hope you have some neighbors with wifi where you go :) [16:48] * dholbach calls it a day - have a good WE - see you soon again [16:48] later dholbach :) [16:48] paultag: my nearest neighbour will be over 300m away... ;) [16:48] whoh! [16:48] NICE! [16:48] dholbach: have fun! [16:48] jussi: totally worth it [16:48] thanks guys [16:48] paultag: yup [16:48] bye [16:49] paultag: and the house is still only 20 mins from the main cetre of Oulu, and 5 mins from a shopping centre :D [16:50] jussi: how did you manage that? [16:52] paultag: motorway is only about 3km [16:52] jussi: getting ready for settling down? [16:52] nigelb: yeah, getting married in sept so all related I suppose [16:52] jussi: :) [16:52] jussi: congrats in advance (again) [16:53] jussi: grats :) [16:53] so, who wants to see a pic of said house :D? [16:54] o/ [16:54] http://imagebin.ca/view/NFRH0S4D.html [16:54] its a log house, so thats nice :) [16:54] jussi: nice! That's really cool :) [16:55] yeah, its a pretty nice place [16:56] on 2Ha, so that makes it even better [16:57] paultag: Use bzr for what? [16:57] doctormo: project versioning [16:58] paultag: Explain some more please. [16:58] jussi: that house is a log cabin (of sorts)! that's freaking cool! [16:58] doctormo: explain what? Nothing to explain -- you prefer bzr over git [16:58] * scott-work always wanted a log cabin in the woods [16:59] doctormo: so when we collaborate, I don't care, so we end up using bzr [16:59] scott-work: yeah, our 2HA is mostly birch forest, but the surrounding land is farmland [17:00] oh, and you all need to see this, its taken from near the gas station about 3km from the house :D http://imagebin.ca/view/Yio6_ac.html [17:00] jussi: nice :) [17:00] paultag: I don't really like git :-P plus it's half perl, that's freeky. [17:00] lol @ doctormo [17:01] bah [17:01] doctormo: it works better, and I love the branches in git [17:01] paultag: Git is faster, bzr is easier to use and has a project management concept with it's intergration of launchpad. [17:01] jussi: its worth the distance and being only on 3g [17:02] doctormo: I don't think it's easier :/ [17:02] paultag: Even if wanted to try and get GC to use git for instance, it wouldn't fit because it doesn't understand 'projects' [17:02] nigelb: certainly is. [17:02] doctormo: you should try using it for about a month [17:02] paultag: I have no projects I want to be in that use it. [17:03] Ive an option for a different wireless technology as well, but its expensive and not very fast (up to 2Mb/s) [17:03] doctormo: so migrate one to git and try it for a while [17:03] I liked git better than bzr for project stuff [17:03] paultag: And what in return will you offer? [17:03] lets start a flamewar... oh wait... moving on... [17:03] doctormo: Humm. I'll say Basil your goofy way and call it Coriander [17:03] doctormo: for a month [17:04] doctormo: bbl, think about it :) [17:06] You also have to say biscuits and jam, you can't use p&j as a phrase and you have to ware a monocle for at least 3 days. [17:06] * JFo goes shopping for monocles [17:06] bye! [17:31] jono: we need http://www.jonobacon.org/files/lernid/ubuntu.lernid updated for User Days, how do we accomplish this? [17:32] pleia2, just give me a few mins, I need to finish an urgent mail and then I will ping you and we can get it sorted [17:32] thanks [17:32] :) [17:32] thank you :) [17:32] :) [17:33] * nigelb hugs jono [17:34] * jono hugs nigelb [17:36] jono: can we move that file to some place controlled by canonical where classroom team can have access? that way we don't have thse bottlenecks? [17:38] yeah, I have access to strontium and neodymium already, so either of those would be easy [17:38] just need to add a couple others [17:44] Oh doctormo [17:46] ground control to doctormo [17:46] ground control to doctormo [17:46] LOL [17:46] take your protein pills and put your helmet on! [17:46] major tom to ground control.... [17:46] This is ground control to doctormo, you've really made the graaaaaaade [17:46] Hahaha! [17:48] nigelb, sure, I would like to move it away from my server [17:48] jono: we'll get things done and can you do an apache re direct for us? [17:49] that way you're happy and we're happy :) [17:49] dangit, now I have to listen to that jcastro [17:49] * JFo queues up rhythmbox [17:49] oh bowie. [17:49] JFo: I have some questions for you! wanna mumble later? [17:49] sure [17:49] :) [17:49] did you guys fix the print screen key yet? [17:50] nigelb, well we need to know where to host it [17:50] and who gets access [17:50] jono: pleia2 has access to servers. classroom management team will have access [17:50] nigelb, ok cool [17:50] classroom management team = nhandler, cjohnston, and pleia2 :) [17:51] jono: we just want access to be given to nhandler and cjohnston too so we don't get bottlenecked [17:51]