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| Frankie1 | I just asked this in #ubuntu but it looks like I got missed. Has anyone here used Ubuntu 10.10? My mouse pointer disappears after about 3 seconds of inactivity. Is there a setting for that? | 01:28 |
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| TheMuso | I get the same thing in maverick here, haven't checked for a setting, as it doesn't bother me personally. | 01:43 |
| Frankie1 | The only thing is tooltips disappear too fast for me to read them. | 01:45 |
| RAOF | It's the “unclutter” package. | 01:45 |
| RAOF | I'm not sure if or where there are settings for it. | 01:45 |
| Frankie1 | Hey, that's great! | 01:46 |
| Frankie1 | I saw that package in Scroogle searches, but I didn't know I had it. | 01:46 |
| TheMuso | According to the startup script for unclutter in /etc/X11/Xsession.d, it checks to see if there is /etc/default/unclutter, which is not shipped in the package by default. | 01:55 |
| TheMuso | ubuntu-desktop depends on it. | 01:55 |
| TheMuso | Looks like there is no GUI for it. | 01:56 |
| TheMuso | For starting/stopping, or changing settings. | 01:56 |
| TheMuso | Unclutter is a recommends of ubuntu-desktop, so it can be removed safely. | 01:57 |
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| Frankie1 | Oh, good. | 02:05 |
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| pitti | Good morning | 05:44 |
| TheMuso | Hey pitti. | 05:54 |
| tremolux | hello pitti! | 05:54 |
| pitti | hey TheMuso | 05:54 |
| pitti | good morning tremolux, how are you? | 05:54 |
| tremolux | oh, I'm fine, how about you? | 05:55 |
| pitti | I'm great, thanks | 05:55 |
| tremolux | :) | 05:55 |
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| vish | Amaranth: hi , got a min to review alacarte patch? | 06:17 |
| vish | Amaranth: Bug #395692 | 06:19 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 395692 in alacarte (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "Drag-and-Drop behavior in the menu editor is inconsistent and confusing (affects: 3) (heat: 27)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/395692 | 06:19 |
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| rickspencer3 | good morning desktoppers | 08:32 |
| RAOF | rickspencer3: Good evening, Europeman! | 08:32 |
| rickspencer3 | hey RAOF, how is the future? looking bright? | 08:32 |
| RAOF | Looking full of promising kernel SRUs. | 08:33 |
| rickspencer3 | sweet | 08:34 |
| and471 | does anyone know how to use a custom template file in glade-3? | 08:35 |
| and471 | rickspencer3, I think quickly does it ^ | 08:36 |
| rickspencer3 | and471, what is a "custom template file"? | 08:37 |
| rickspencer3 | can you tell me a bit what you're trying to do? | 08:37 |
| and471 | rickspencer3, it is where you define custom widgets for glade, I am working on a papercut for shotwell, and it uses them and I can't remeber if you can supply an argument on the CLI to use a custom one. | 08:37 |
| and471 | rickspencer3, I thought I reme,bered quickly doing it, so I thought i'd ask to see if I could get a quick answer ;-p | 08:38 |
| and471 | rickspencer3, don't worry if you don't know I'll stop being lazy and go on #glade3 | 08:39 |
| and471 | :) | 08:39 |
| rickspencer3 | and471, so you have a custom widget, and you want it to show up in Glade? | 08:39 |
| and471 | rickspencer3, it is something that shotwell uses, I don't really know why, just need ot be able to open the glade file | 08:40 |
| rickspencer3 | I see | 08:40 |
| rickspencer3 | and471, look in the data/ui directory of a quickly project, you'll see the .xml files you need there for each custom widget | 08:41 |
| rickspencer3 | then you can look at the quickly code to see the cli switches you need to load them into glade | 08:41 |
| and471 | rickspencer3, yeah I was just wondering how quickly uses them ({as then I could copy this arg) | 08:41 |
| rickspencer3 | in design.py | 08:41 |
| and471 | rickspencer3, ah yes :) | 08:41 |
| rickspencer3 | and471, here ya' go | 08:42 |
| rickspencer3 | cmd = "GLADE_CATALOG_PATH=./data/ui glade-3 " + " ".join(files) | 08:42 |
| and471 | rickspencer3, you rock | 08:43 |
| and471 | rickspencer3, launchpad is being slow, thanks :D | 08:43 |
| rickspencer3 | :) | 08:43 |
| and471 | rickspencer3, hehe in the end, the stuff I wanted isn't in the glade file :) | 08:44 |
| and471 | rickspencer3, oh well it is good to know for in the future | 08:44 |
| rickspencer3 | oh well :/ | 08:45 |
| and471 | hehe | 08:45 |
| RAOF | Why are all the computers around me so slow all of a sudden? | 09:12 |
| RAOF | It's like they realise it's 6:15 on a Friday evening. | 09:12 |
| * mvo twiddles thumbs while waiting for LP to answer | 09:14 | |
| and471 | mvo, at least lp wasn't just slow for me | 09:16 |
| mvo | vish: I uploaded something that may fix bug #355355 into maverick | 09:18 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 355355 in synaptic (Ubuntu) "Update Manager causes high Xorg CPU usage when checking for updates (affects: 9) (dups: 1) (heat: 31)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/355355 | 09:18 |
| mvo | vish: if you can reproduce the problem, then I would be very grateful if you could let me know if it fixes it or not (we can backport then) | 09:18 |
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| mvo | and471: :) | 09:21 |
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| and471 | using svn makes me appreciate bzr... | 09:23 |
| and471 | vish, I am working on the shotwell icons papercut | 09:28 |
| RAOF | and471: Install bzr-svn | 09:30 |
| and471 | RAOF, what does it do? | 09:30 |
| RAOF | Allows bzr to interact with svn repositories. | 09:31 |
| RAOF | Essentially it turns bzr into an svn client. But a really kick-arse svn client. | 09:31 |
| and471 | RAOF, sounds awesome, thanks :) | 09:31 |
| RAOF | Similarly, bzr-git. | 09:31 |
| and471 | RAOF, how do I run it? | 09:32 |
| RAOF | bzr branch svn://svn.debian.org/whatever local-whatever | 09:33 |
| RAOF | It basically just means you can treat an svn repository as a bzr branch. | 09:35 |
| and471 | RAOF, ah okay | 09:35 |
| seb128 | re | 09:47 |
| seb128 | pitti, did apport stop to count crashes and bother you after 3 times getting the same issue? | 09:48 |
| pitti | seb128: "stopped counting"? | 09:48 |
| pitti | no, it's still doing that | 09:48 |
| pitti | at least, supposed to | 09:48 |
| pitti | it's testcase'd, too, so it ought to work | 09:49 |
| seb128 | pitti, it doesn't there | 09:49 |
| pitti | seb128: after the second crash, do you get a CrashCounter: in the .crash file? | 09:50 |
| vish | mvo: hi , I'm on Lucid now ,can i just try the maverick version on Lucid? | 09:50 |
| vish | and471: cool! | 09:50 |
| mvo | vish: I think that should work, if not I can build you a backport | 09:50 |
| vish | ok. on it | 09:50 |
| mvo | thanks! | 09:50 |
| * mvo hugs vish | 09:50 | |
| vish | :) | 09:51 |
| seb128 | pitti, yes but it's staying to 1 | 09:51 |
| seb128 | pitti, it's not raising on next crashes | 09:52 |
| seb128 | I get rhythmbox crashing on closing in maverick | 09:52 |
| seb128 | but I got it to crash 3 times in a row now and the counter still say 1 | 09:53 |
| seb128 | pitti, I will open a bug, thanks | 09:53 |
| pitti | hm, weird; let's discuss it there, right | 09:53 |
| and471 | vish, part of the bug is removing custom icon references and replacing them with stock ones | 10:04 |
| and471 | vish, the other part is replacing icons that need to be custom with good looking ones :) | 10:05 |
| and471 | vish, could you do something about that? | 10:05 |
| vish | and471: new icons? | 10:05 |
| and471 | vish, yup | 10:05 |
| rickspencer3 | does anyone know where I would find python gio reference documentation | 10:06 |
| rickspencer3 | ? | 10:06 |
| and471 | rickspencer3, google python gobject reference | 10:06 |
| vish | and471: not sure , already this is turning out to be a handful :( and i have other TODO witing as well.. not really sure , but i can try at some point :) | 10:06 |
| vish | waiting* | 10:06 |
| and471 | vish, sure it is not urgent | 10:06 |
| seb128 | rickspencer3, /usr/share/gtk-doc/html/pygobject | 10:06 |
| and471 | rickspencer3, it should be on that page (strangely enough I was looking for it yesterday) | 10:07 |
| seb128 | rickspencer3, /usr/share/gtk-doc/html/pygobject/index.html | 10:07 |
| vish | and471: for now just replace them and we can add new icons later whenever that is ;) | 10:07 |
| seb128 | rickspencer3, "PyGio Class Reference" there | 10:07 |
| and471 | vish, sure, they are not THAT bad, but, not great either | 10:07 |
| vish | and471: hehe , they are actually ours too , from breathe ;p | 10:08 |
| and471 | vish, when you do have time, they are redeye, enhance (like a magic wand), crop and adjust (colour bars) | 10:08 |
| and471 | vish, oh :D | 10:08 |
| seb128 | pitti, bug #603503, not sure what informations would be useful though | 10:16 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 603503 in apport (Ubuntu) "doesn't increment the CrashCount over 1 (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/603503 | 10:16 |
| pitti | seb128: thanks; I'm upgrading my maverick netbook now | 10:19 |
| pitti | seb128: in the meantime, could you clean /var/crash/ and run /usr/share/apport/testsuite/run ? | 10:20 |
| pitti | seb128: please paste the failures to the bug report | 10:20 |
| seb128 | pitti, ok | 10:20 |
| seb128 | pitti, done | 10:22 |
| pitti | seb128: hm, do you actually have apport enabled? | 10:23 |
| seb128 | pitti, I guess so, I get it poping on screen every half an hour for a week | 10:23 |
| seb128 | $ grep enabled /etc/default/apport | 10:24 |
| seb128 | enabled=1 | 10:24 |
| pitti | seb128: ah, and please attach /var/log/apport.log after your gconf-editor test | 10:24 |
| pitti | seb128: ok, seems it's getting confused somewhere then; I'll test on my mini once it's done upgrading, and stare on the code | 10:24 |
| seb128 | apport (pid 11127) Fri Jul 9 11:18:29 2010: executable: /usr/bin/gconf-editor (command line "gconf-editor") | 10:24 |
| seb128 | apport (pid 11127) Fri Jul 9 11:18:29 2010: this executable already crashed 2 times, ignoring | 10:24 |
| pitti | right, that's expected | 10:24 |
| pitti | first crash -> no crashcounter | 10:24 |
| pitti | second crash -> counter: 1 | 10:24 |
| pitti | third and further crashes -> ignored | 10:25 |
| seb128 | right, but it displays display the "gconf-editor crashed" dialog | 10:25 |
| pitti | yep, that's the bug part of it | 10:25 |
| seb128 | ok | 10:25 |
| pitti | perhaps the new kernel changed something with mtime/atime | 10:25 |
| seb128 | it's not new from today | 10:26 |
| pitti | but the test case failures are weird | 10:26 |
| seb128 | I have the issue since start of the week | 10:26 |
| kiwinote | mvo: hi! | 10:26 |
| kiwinote | mvo: I'm looking at ubufox code atm because it uses apturl to install plugins, but have two queries.. | 10:26 |
| kiwinote | mvo: atm apturl sends a signal on exit with the state of installation (ie installed, aborted, error, etc). Is the correct thing to do here to adapt ubufox not to care about the status? | 10:26 |
| kiwinote | mvo: also ubufox sends apturl an http-proxy argument. Is this something that s-c deals with anyway without the argument, or do I need to look into how this works and allow s-c to deal with this? | 10:26 |
| seb128 | ie since apport is running again | 10:26 |
| mvo | kiwinote: hello! the proxy should be picked up automatically, however if firefox <-> gnome-proxy-settings disagree then having the proxy is a good idea I think | 10:28 |
| mvo | kiwinote: its a corner case though I think | 10:28 |
| kiwinote | mvo: thanks, so that means that apt (via s-c) should use the firefox proxy settings when available, rather than it's own proxy settings? | 10:31 |
| mvo | kiwinote: I think firefox should use the gnome proxy settings IMO its a bug that it has its own :) | 10:31 |
| kiwinote | mvo: ok ;) | 10:31 |
| mvo | kiwinote: as the signal, you mean that it uses the exit codes to communicate if the install was successful or not? | 10:32 |
| kiwinote | mvo: yep | 10:32 |
| mvo | kiwinote: I think we need to support this | 10:33 |
| mvo | kiwinote: one way (if s-c is already running) is to make apturl-gtk just send the right dbus signals to the SoftwareCenterDbus controller and collect the status. when all is finished, that bit can exit, while the main s-c can keep running | 10:34 |
| kiwinote | mvo: via exit codes, or something else? | 10:34 |
| mvo | kiwinote: what do you have in mind? we could use dbus, but then we need to port the apturl-kde to that schema | 10:34 |
| mvo | (make ubufox use dbus instead of spawning a process) | 10:35 |
| kiwinote | mvo: I wasn't really sure. Exit codes on s-c itself won't really work as people probably won't close s-c straight away (and firefox is not usable in the meantime). If we don't have apturl-gtk installed (which we shouldn't need to), then we can't use that either.. | 10:38 |
| kiwinote | mvo: so then getting ubufox to use dbus sounds the most reasonable solution (be it that I would need to look into dbus and js ;) ) | 10:39 |
| kiwinote | mvo: or we don't return a state, and get s-c to prompt to restart the browser after installing certain packages? | 10:40 |
| mvo | kiwinote: well, if apturl-gtk is just a thin wrapper that calls a SoftwareCenterDbus thing and collects the status, then we can use exit codes. this app would exit, s-c itself would keep running | 10:41 |
| vish | mvo: tried synaptic 0.63.1ubuntu10 , but no luck :s , its the same cpu usage as with the lucid version | 10:41 |
| kiwinote | mvo: yeah, suppose so | 10:41 |
| mvo | vish: thanks a bunch, its actually https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/synaptic/0.63.1ubuntu11 (ubuntu11) that has the changes | 10:45 |
| pitti | seb128: I get the three "no such file or dir" errors as well on maverick | 10:45 |
| mvo | vish: what architecture do you have? I can send you direct links, its build for amd64 and i386 | 10:45 |
| vish | mvo: yeah , i was wondering , where the new version was :D | 10:46 |
| vish | i386 | 10:46 |
| seb128 | pitti, ok, "nice" I guess ;-) | 10:46 |
| seb128 | pitti, i.e easier to debug for you | 10:46 |
| pitti | seb128: just to fix the title, the real bug is that apport pops up for repeated bugs, right? | 10:46 |
| vish | mvo: no worries , got the deb for 11 | 10:47 |
| seb128 | pitti, yes | 10:47 |
| seb128 | pitti, I wrongly assumed that the count limit was 3 and that the issue was the counter not incrementing to it | 10:47 |
| seb128 | not sure why I though it was 3 though | 10:47 |
| mvo | vish: thanks! looking forward for new results | 10:47 |
| pitti | it starts from 0 | 10:48 |
| * pitti hugs mvo because it's Friday and sunny | 10:48 | |
| * seb128 hugs mvo just because mvo rocks | 10:48 | |
| * pitti hugs vish as well | 10:49 | |
| vish | aernt we all lovey dowey today :D | 10:49 |
| mvo | woah! flash-hug | 10:49 |
| * mvo hugs pitti and seb128 and dholbach and vish and kiwinote | 10:49 | |
| seb128 | mvo, no dholbach there :-( | 10:50 |
| seb128 | he only joins us when he has desktop issues nowadays :p | 10:50 |
| mvo | seb128: ha! I just went to #ubuntu-devel to hug him :) | 10:50 |
| mvo | he can not escape! | 10:50 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 10:51 |
| pitti | seb128: hm, I have u-n running (UNE), but it's not popping up at all | 10:54 |
| seb128 | do you have apport enable? | 10:54 |
| pitti | yes, it's writing reports and logging properly | 10:55 |
| seb128 | I guess run u-n --debug... | 10:56 |
| mvo | if someone could sync bug #603512 for me, that would be cool | 10:57 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 603512 in gtest (Ubuntu) "Sync gtest 1.5.0-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main) (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/603512 | 10:57 |
| pitti | seb128: will do | 10:57 |
| seb128 | mvo, doing it | 10:57 |
| mvo | thanks seb128 | 10:57 |
| pitti | seb128: in the meantime, I followed up with some questions | 10:57 |
| mvo | update-notifier? | 10:57 |
| seb128 | mvo, done | 10:58 |
| pitti | seb128: oh, *cough* -- just a focus failure of unity | 10:58 |
| seb128 | mvo, pitti doesn't get apport dialogs showing up | 10:58 |
| seb128 | lol | 10:59 |
| * seb128 hugs pitti | 10:59 | |
| mvo | aha! | 10:59 |
| pitti | itz not mvo bug, itz didrocks bug | 10:59 |
| mvo | :) | 10:59 |
| seb128 | the "claim for attention" is sometime buggy | 10:59 |
| pitti | you don't notice at all that there's a new window | 10:59 |
| seb128 | I've opened a bug about that a week ago | 10:59 |
| seb128 | well it should be moving in the launcher | 10:59 |
| seb128 | it works in some cases | 10:59 |
| seb128 | but it's often broken | 10:59 |
| pitti | seb128: followed up again; I can't reproduce, so let's take a look at your stat output | 11:03 |
| pitti | I'll have some lunch and check out the test case failures after that | 11:03 |
| pitti | * debian/rules: don't break build on the testsuite it has issues on buildds | 11:04 |
| pitti | :-( | 11:04 |
| pitti | it worked before? | 11:04 |
| seb128 | not really | 11:04 |
| seb128 | the new gdbus testcases seem to not like the buildds | 11:04 |
| vish | mvo: for synaptic ubuntu11 , i had to new install libept1 , while i have libept0 as well , should libept0 be removed? | 11:04 |
| seb128 | pitti, it seems gdbus can't connect to the bus on the buildds for some reason | 11:05 |
| seb128 | pitti, it's a workaround for now, we need the new version to build and I've no time to debug buildds | 11:05 |
| seb128 | pitti, the testsuite works on local builds | 11:05 |
| pitti | fun that it works on armel | 11:05 |
| pitti | ok | 11:06 |
| mvo | vish: yes, it should appear in the autoremove list once aptitude is updated for libept1 | 11:06 |
| * pitti & | 11:06 | |
| seb128 | indeed | 11:06 |
| seb128 | pitti, enjoy | 11:06 |
| mvo | vish: for now you can just keep both, that should be fine | 11:06 |
| vish | mvo: yeah , i tried with that , but still no luck. :( the same cpu usage... thats why i was wondering if it was the problem. | 11:07 |
| mvo | vish: hrm, hrm. thanks! that is odd. it happens on "reload", righ? | 11:08 |
| vish | mvo: yeah. only during reloads | 11:08 |
| OwaisL | hey, I'm working on this gmail notifier with support for multiple accounts. | 11:11 |
| OwaisL | I am facing a problem | 11:11 |
| OwaisL | I'm opening Gmail in the browser using python's webbrowser module | 11:11 |
| OwaisL | BUT | 11:11 |
| OwaisL | and gmail logs in the user automatically based on previous/current session | 11:12 |
| OwaisL | desired behavior is that Gmail for the notified account should open | 11:12 |
| OwaisL | so i need a way to logout of gmail, then login to the desired account all inside the browser | 11:13 |
| OwaisL | any ideas? | 11:13 |
| seb128 | OwaisL, hi, you seem to have made a mistake in the channel | 11:13 |
| seb128 | this channel is about organizing work on the ubuntu-desktop builds | 11:14 |
| OwaisL | oh | 11:14 |
| seb128 | try #ubuntu-bugs for bugs | 11:14 |
| mvo | thanks vish i debug further | 11:14 |
| seb128 | or #ubuntu for user questions | 11:14 |
| OwaisL | join #ubuntu-bugs | 11:15 |
| vish | mvo: thanks | 11:15 |
| OwaisL | oops | 11:15 |
| OwaisL | thanks | 11:15 |
| mvo | vish: silly me, I think I nailed it down, expect a new upload shortly | 11:22 |
| mvo | vish: but lunch first | 11:22 |
| vish | cool! | 11:22 |
| pitti | seb128: *sigh* heisenbug :-( I'll still look at the test case failuires, though | 11:44 |
| seb128 | pitti, yeah, sorry about that, it was doing it for a week and now it stopped | 11:44 |
| seb128 | Traceback (most recent call last): | 11:48 |
| seb128 | File "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/aptdaemon/gtkwidgets.py", line 508, in _on_download_changed | 11:48 |
| seb128 | iter = model.append((text, progress, uri)) | 11:48 |
| seb128 | AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'append' | 11:48 |
| seb128 | mvo, ^ known issue? | 11:48 |
| pitti | seb128: ah, itz kees bug | 11:57 |
| pitti | seb128: test suite can't core dump due to ptrace protection :-( | 11:57 |
| mvo | seb128: not a known issue, is that reproducable? | 12:02 |
| mvo | vish: I uploaded yet another version (ubuntu12), once that is build, could you give it a try? | 12:16 |
| vish | mvo: sure , thanks. | 12:16 |
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| pitti | seb128: test suite problem in maverick fixed in apport's trunk, FYI (rewired the test code to get along with ptrace restrictions) | 12:20 |
| seb128 | pitti, re, sorry I was getting something to eat | 12:25 |
| seb128 | pitti, thanks | 12:25 |
| seb128 | mvo, not easily but that's not the first time I get it | 12:25 |
| seb128 | mvo, I did click on "installing updates", entered my password switched to something else and did esc when the "installing update" dialog was displayed | 12:26 |
| seb128 | mvo, seems there is a race, you can manage to get update-manager in a "waiting" state but with nothing happening | 12:26 |
| mvo | seb128: that is really a bit odd, model should always be != None | 12:28 |
| mvo | seb128: let me try that | 12:29 |
| seb128 | mvo, I've the feeling it's a race and you will not easily get it | 12:30 |
| seb128 | mvo, oh in fact it's trivial to get | 12:30 |
| seb128 | mvo, click on "update", enter your password and do "esc, esc, esc" | 12:31 |
| seb128 | ie keep hitting it until the dialg comes and is dismissed | 12:31 |
| seb128 | then apport triggers | 12:31 |
| seb128 | update-manager gets stucked in a busy state | 12:31 |
| seb128 | and you get a zillion apport crash report | 12:31 |
| mvo | seb128: about the None has no attribute … issue? | 12:32 |
| mvo | seb128: or about something else? | 12:32 |
| seb128 | pitti, ^ I got 6 extra "apport crash dialogs" about it | 12:32 |
| mvo | ha! | 12:32 |
| mvo | have it | 12:32 |
| seb128 | mvo, it gives the stacktrace I gave you | 12:32 |
| seb128 | pitti, oh! | 12:33 |
| seb128 | pitti, ok, I was wrong with my bug | 12:33 |
| seb128 | I didn't actually got the issue with gconf-editor there | 12:33 |
| seb128 | I just use that one to grep for the counter value | 12:33 |
| seb128 | pitti, the counter seems to not work on python exception issues | 12:34 |
| pitti | aah | 12:34 |
| mvo | seb128: thanks, I can reproduce, fixing now | 12:35 |
| seb128 | mvo, it did install the updates! | 12:35 |
| seb128 | mvo, ie it didn't take my cancel | 12:35 |
| seb128 | I restarted update-manager now and I've no update listed | 12:35 |
| seb128 | mvo, thanks ;-) | 12:36 |
| pitti | seb128: ok, please reopen the bug then | 12:36 |
| seb128 | pitti, done | 12:37 |
| seb128 | urg | 12:38 |
| seb128 | mvo, did you change update-manager to not display the names of updates on purpose or that's a bug? | 12:39 |
| seb128 | oh | 12:39 |
| seb128 | it's there ignore me | 12:39 |
| seb128 | it's confusing to have the title first and the package name behind ;-) | 12:39 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson: hey | 12:40 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson: shouldn't you be in a swap day rather than updating firefox today? ;-) | 12:40 |
| mvo | seb128: aptdaemon issue is fixed in bzr | 12:52 |
| seb128 | mvo, you rock, thanks! | 12:52 |
| joaopinto | mvo, hi, is there a plan to have apturl integrated with aptdaemon ? | 13:14 |
| pitti | have a good weekend everyone, see you all on Monday! need to leave early today | 13:17 |
| mvo | joaopinto: yes | 13:21 |
| seb128 | pitti, have fun! | 13:22 |
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| mvo | kiwinote: I fixed the enable component problem you mentioned yesterday in aptdaemon | 13:55 |
| kiwinote | mvo: thanks! | 13:55 |
| kenvandine | seb128, i uploaded gwibber to lucid-proposed, waiting to be approved | 14:45 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, I've noticed you fb post, nice | 14:45 |
| seb128 | it will wait monday I guess | 14:45 |
| kenvandine | ok | 14:45 |
| seb128 | we need pitti and he called it a week earlier | 14:45 |
| kenvandine | ok, thx | 14:46 |
| seb128 | or trying asking cjwatson if you want | 14:46 |
| desrt | seb128: hey? | 15:24 |
| desrt | seb128: what's the story of this gconf package conflict? | 15:24 |
| seb128 | desrt, hello | 15:24 |
| seb128 | desrt, what conflicts? | 15:24 |
| desrt | there's a package conflict on my system that's preventing gconf from being installed | 15:25 |
| seb128 | details? | 15:25 |
| desrt | something about some .gir file conflicting with the same file in another package | 15:25 |
| desrt | well | 15:25 |
| desrt | thing is, i rebooted with my system in that conflicted state | 15:25 |
| desrt | so uh... heh | 15:25 |
| desrt | :X | 15:25 |
| seb128 | sudo apt-get -f install | 15:25 |
| seb128 | oh | 15:25 |
| seb128 | you mean it broke the install in middle in a broken state? | 15:25 |
| desrt | maybe? | 15:26 |
| desrt | i tried to do the -f install thing | 15:26 |
| desrt | or at least the update manager tried on my behalf | 15:26 |
| desrt | that fixed most things, i think, but somthing is still toasted | 15:26 |
| seb128 | well | 15:26 |
| seb128 | having the package names would help | 15:26 |
| seb128 | or the file conflicting | 15:26 |
| desrt | i just realised that it's possible that this is caused by the gnome-shell PPA | 15:26 |
| seb128 | those should be in logged in /var/log/apt | 15:26 |
| desrt | which i t | 15:27 |
| desrt | hink that i have installed | 15:27 |
| seb128 | it's likely yes | 15:27 |
| desrt | i forgot about that | 15:27 |
| seb128 | I don't recommend anybody to use it right now | 15:27 |
| desrt | heh | 15:27 |
| seb128 | with the gir abi change | 15:27 |
| desrt | is that the canonical company position? :) | 15:27 |
| desrt | "don't use gnome shell!" | 15:27 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 15:27 |
| seb128 | don't use rebuild of tons of system libs from a ppa | 15:28 |
| seb128 | rather | 15:28 |
| seb128 | the guys having the ppa has been taking the new gir abi | 15:28 |
| seb128 | so he's basically doing packaging changes to everything building a gir | 15:28 |
| seb128 | I'm not really surprised it creates issues | 15:28 |
| desrt | ya... almost certainly the blame lies there, then | 15:29 |
| desrt | PPAs are a bit scary in a way | 15:29 |
| desrt | you install them for some small purpose | 15:29 |
| seb128 | but yeah, all those transitions make updating g-s challenging now | 15:29 |
| Sarvatt | i think you just summed up xorg-edgers to a tee there seb128 :) | 15:29 |
| desrt | and they have the ability to take over your entire system as the guy who built it increases the number of packages in there | 15:29 |
| jcastro | when you remove it doing "sudo apt-get install packagename/lucid" will get you back to the level you're supposed to be at | 15:30 |
| jcastro | or /maverick or whatever | 15:30 |
| seb128 | especially that walters and jdhalin said the abi and typelib will break | 15:30 |
| desrt | in my case i didn't even realise what was going on until i considered how unlikely it was that ubuntu substantially changed the packaging mid-release | 15:30 |
| Sarvatt | sudo apt-get install ppa-purge && sudo ppa-purge ppaname | 15:30 |
| Sarvatt | :) | 15:30 |
| desrt | seb128: walters is talking about switching the typelib to be the same file format as dconf :p | 15:30 |
| seb128 | lol | 15:30 |
| jcastro | do we put ppa purge somewhere common or is it still in the Xorg PPAs? | 15:30 |
| seb128 | well we will not transition until the abi changes settle | 15:30 |
| desrt | it's a good file format, dude! | 15:30 |
| seb128 | no discussion ;-) | 15:31 |
| seb128 | I'm just saying Debian and Ubuntu agree to wait a bit | 15:31 |
| seb128 | but it means we can't get new g-s builds easily | 15:31 |
| seb128 | since they depends on those changes | 15:31 |
| Sarvatt | i think he copied it to the gnome-shell ppa if its ricotz's one | 15:31 |
| seb128 | so the ppa has to divert a lot | 15:31 |
| seb128 | Sarvatt, he's the one doing the g-s builds yes | 15:31 |
| Sarvatt | yeah ppa-purge is in there | 15:32 |
| Sarvatt | sudo apt-get install ppa-purge && sudo ppa-purge ppa:ricotz/testing then :) | 15:32 |
| Sarvatt | a lot easier and safer to just jhbuild gnome-shell for now | 15:35 |
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| vish | mvo: w0000000t!!!!! it works ubuntu12 no constant cpu spike ... :D | 16:02 |
| mvo | vish: \o/ | 16:02 |
| vish | the https alone has a spike but that drops in a couple of secs | 16:02 |
| mvo | vish: thanks a million for testing that | 16:02 |
| vish | mvo: np. thank *you* :) | 16:02 |
| mvo | vish: please keep using it, if you see no regressions over the weekend I think we should try to get it into lucid-proposed | 16:03 |
| vish | mvo: sure. will keep an eye out . | 16:03 |
| mvo | great, tahnks vish | 16:04 |
| vish | np. | 16:05 |
| and471 | vish, how is this? :D (more tango than humanity style) http://imagebin.ca/img/YqT84wY.png | 16:16 |
| vish | and471: looks good. humanity is tango with a different palette and a few minor variations , this should fit well.. btw which icon is it for? | 16:18 |
| and471 | vish, if you are asking that question, I think I have failed | 16:19 |
| and471 | ... | 16:19 |
| and471 | vish, :D | 16:19 |
| and471 | vish, it is for adjusting hue saturationa and brightness (I think) | 16:19 |
| kenvandine | and471, that gnome color thing? | 16:19 |
| vish | and471: nah , it looks like some adjust .. i dont remember all the items in shotwell :) | 16:19 |
| vish | and471: see:) | 16:19 |
| kenvandine | ah | 16:19 |
| kenvandine | for shotwell :) | 16:19 |
| and471 | kenvandine, yup yup :) | 16:20 |
| and471 | vish, I think the papercut needs to be split in two | 16:20 |
| and471 | vish, 1) use stanard stock icons for those that are applicable | 16:20 |
| and471 | *standard | 16:20 |
| vish | and471: feel free to split it.. | 16:20 |
| and471 | vish, 2) make the icons that have to be shipped with shotwell better (and generic tango style) | 16:21 |
| and471 | vish, merci beaucoup | 16:21 |
| and471 | does anyone know if shotwell has an irc channel? | 16:22 |
| jcastro | and471: "yorba-jim" stops by in this channel on occassion | 16:25 |
| and471 | jcastro, thanks | 16:25 |
| * and471 just used the new Opinion status on launchpad | 16:28 | |
| LaserJock | is that supposed to be a "terminal" status? | 16:31 |
| and471 | LaserJock, :) | 16:31 |
| LaserJock | to me it sounds like an Importance status like a bit below "Wishlist" | 16:32 |
| vish | and471: where is the preferences in shotwell? are you on Maverick? | 16:56 |
| vish | i cant seem to find it in Lucid.. :s | 16:57 |
| and471 | vish, should be edit> preferences, I am on the svn version though | 16:57 |
| and471 | is this the bug I filed? | 16:57 |
| vish | yeah | 16:57 |
| vish | and471: cool , probably not in lucid | 16:58 |
| vish | no prefs of any kind | 16:58 |
| and471 | vish, don't worry about that bug, it is set to opinion, so unless anyone has an opinion on it, it is wont fix upstream | 16:59 |
| and471 | vish, yeah must just be in SVN, you want a screenshot? | 16:59 |
| vish | and471: np.. i was just confused :) | 17:00 |
| kiwinote | mvo: warnings and errors should now be handled nicely by appdetailsview-gtk | 17:14 |
| kiwinote | mvo: enjoy your weekend! | 17:14 |
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