=== bjf is now known as bjf[afk] === tkamppeter_ is now known as tkamppeter === fta_ is now known as fta [01:28] I just asked this in #ubuntu but it looks like I got missed. Has anyone here used Ubuntu 10.10? My mouse pointer disappears after about 3 seconds of inactivity. Is there a setting for that? [01:43] I get the same thing in maverick here, haven't checked for a setting, as it doesn't bother me personally. [01:45] The only thing is tooltips disappear too fast for me to read them. [01:45] It's the “unclutter” package. [01:45] I'm not sure if or where there are settings for it. [01:46] Hey, that's great! [01:46] I saw that package in Scroogle searches, but I didn't know I had it. [01:55] According to the startup script for unclutter in /etc/X11/Xsession.d, it checks to see if there is /etc/default/unclutter, which is not shipped in the package by default. [01:55] ubuntu-desktop depends on it. [01:56] Looks like there is no GUI for it. [01:56] For starting/stopping, or changing settings. [01:57] Unclutter is a recommends of ubuntu-desktop, so it can be removed safely. === fta_ is now known as fta [02:05] Oh, good. === fta_ is now known as fta [05:44] Good morning [05:54] Hey pitti. [05:54] hello pitti! [05:54] hey TheMuso [05:54] good morning tremolux, how are you? [05:55] oh, I'm fine, how about you? [05:55] I'm great, thanks [05:55] :) === Amaranth_ is now known as Amaranth [06:17] Amaranth: hi , got a min to review alacarte patch? [06:19] Amaranth: Bug #395692 [06:19] Launchpad bug 395692 in alacarte (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "Drag-and-Drop behavior in the menu editor is inconsistent and confusing (affects: 3) (heat: 27)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/395692 === fta_ is now known as fta === \vish is now known as vish [08:32] good morning desktoppers [08:32] rickspencer3: Good evening, Europeman! [08:32] hey RAOF, how is the future? looking bright? [08:33] Looking full of promising kernel SRUs. [08:34] sweet [08:35] does anyone know how to use a custom template file in glade-3? [08:36] rickspencer3, I think quickly does it ^ [08:37] and471, what is a "custom template file"? [08:37] can you tell me a bit what you're trying to do? [08:37] rickspencer3, it is where you define custom widgets for glade, I am working on a papercut for shotwell, and it uses them and I can't remeber if you can supply an argument on the CLI to use a custom one. [08:38] rickspencer3, I thought I reme,bered quickly doing it, so I thought i'd ask to see if I could get a quick answer ;-p [08:39] rickspencer3, don't worry if you don't know I'll stop being lazy and go on #glade3 [08:39] :) [08:39] and471, so you have a custom widget, and you want it to show up in Glade? [08:40] rickspencer3, it is something that shotwell uses, I don't really know why, just need ot be able to open the glade file [08:40] I see [08:41] and471, look in the data/ui directory of a quickly project, you'll see the .xml files you need there for each custom widget [08:41] then you can look at the quickly code to see the cli switches you need to load them into glade [08:41] rickspencer3, yeah I was just wondering how quickly uses them ({as then I could copy this arg) [08:41] in design.py [08:41] rickspencer3, ah yes :) [08:42] and471, here ya' go [08:42] cmd = "GLADE_CATALOG_PATH=./data/ui glade-3 " + " ".join(files) [08:43] rickspencer3, you rock [08:43] rickspencer3, launchpad is being slow, thanks :D [08:43] :) [08:44] rickspencer3, hehe in the end, the stuff I wanted isn't in the glade file :) [08:44] rickspencer3, oh well it is good to know for in the future [08:45] oh well :/ [08:45] hehe [09:12] Why are all the computers around me so slow all of a sudden? [09:12] It's like they realise it's 6:15 on a Friday evening. [09:14] * mvo twiddles thumbs while waiting for LP to answer [09:16] mvo, at least lp wasn't just slow for me [09:18] vish: I uploaded something that may fix bug #355355 into maverick [09:18] Launchpad bug 355355 in synaptic (Ubuntu) "Update Manager causes high Xorg CPU usage when checking for updates (affects: 9) (dups: 1) (heat: 31)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/355355 [09:18] vish: if you can reproduce the problem, then I would be very grateful if you could let me know if it fixes it or not (we can backport then) === fta_ is now known as fta [09:21] and471: :) === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan [09:23] using svn makes me appreciate bzr... [09:28] vish, I am working on the shotwell icons papercut [09:30] and471: Install bzr-svn [09:30] RAOF, what does it do? [09:31] Allows bzr to interact with svn repositories. [09:31] Essentially it turns bzr into an svn client. But a really kick-arse svn client. [09:31] RAOF, sounds awesome, thanks :) [09:31] Similarly, bzr-git. [09:32] RAOF, how do I run it? [09:33] bzr branch svn://svn.debian.org/whatever local-whatever [09:35] It basically just means you can treat an svn repository as a bzr branch. [09:35] RAOF, ah okay [09:47] re [09:48] pitti, did apport stop to count crashes and bother you after 3 times getting the same issue? [09:48] seb128: "stopped counting"? [09:48] no, it's still doing that [09:48] at least, supposed to [09:49] it's testcase'd, too, so it ought to work [09:49] pitti, it doesn't there [09:50] seb128: after the second crash, do you get a CrashCounter: in the .crash file? [09:50] mvo: hi , I'm on Lucid now ,can i just try the maverick version on Lucid? [09:50] and471: cool! [09:50] vish: I think that should work, if not I can build you a backport [09:50] ok. on it [09:50] thanks! [09:50] * mvo hugs vish [09:51] :) [09:51] pitti, yes but it's staying to 1 [09:52] pitti, it's not raising on next crashes [09:52] I get rhythmbox crashing on closing in maverick [09:53] but I got it to crash 3 times in a row now and the counter still say 1 [09:53] pitti, I will open a bug, thanks [09:53] hm, weird; let's discuss it there, right [10:04] vish, part of the bug is removing custom icon references and replacing them with stock ones [10:05] vish, the other part is replacing icons that need to be custom with good looking ones :) [10:05] vish, could you do something about that? [10:05] and471: new icons? [10:05] vish, yup [10:06] does anyone know where I would find python gio reference documentation [10:06] ? [10:06] rickspencer3, google python gobject reference [10:06] and471: not sure , already this is turning out to be a handful :( and i have other TODO witing as well.. not really sure , but i can try at some point :) [10:06] waiting* [10:06] vish, sure it is not urgent [10:06] rickspencer3, /usr/share/gtk-doc/html/pygobject [10:07] rickspencer3, it should be on that page (strangely enough I was looking for it yesterday) [10:07] rickspencer3, /usr/share/gtk-doc/html/pygobject/index.html [10:07] and471: for now just replace them and we can add new icons later whenever that is ;) [10:07] rickspencer3, "PyGio Class Reference" there [10:07] vish, sure, they are not THAT bad, but, not great either [10:08] and471: hehe , they are actually ours too , from breathe ;p [10:08] vish, when you do have time, they are redeye, enhance (like a magic wand), crop and adjust (colour bars) [10:08] vish, oh :D [10:16] pitti, bug #603503, not sure what informations would be useful though [10:16] Launchpad bug 603503 in apport (Ubuntu) "doesn't increment the CrashCount over 1 (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/603503 [10:19] seb128: thanks; I'm upgrading my maverick netbook now [10:20] seb128: in the meantime, could you clean /var/crash/ and run /usr/share/apport/testsuite/run ? [10:20] seb128: please paste the failures to the bug report [10:20] pitti, ok [10:22] pitti, done [10:23] seb128: hm, do you actually have apport enabled? [10:23] pitti, I guess so, I get it poping on screen every half an hour for a week [10:24] $ grep enabled /etc/default/apport [10:24] enabled=1 [10:24] seb128: ah, and please attach /var/log/apport.log after your gconf-editor test [10:24] seb128: ok, seems it's getting confused somewhere then; I'll test on my mini once it's done upgrading, and stare on the code [10:24] apport (pid 11127) Fri Jul 9 11:18:29 2010: executable: /usr/bin/gconf-editor (command line "gconf-editor") [10:24] apport (pid 11127) Fri Jul 9 11:18:29 2010: this executable already crashed 2 times, ignoring [10:24] right, that's expected [10:24] first crash -> no crashcounter [10:24] second crash -> counter: 1 [10:25] third and further crashes -> ignored [10:25] right, but it displays display the "gconf-editor crashed" dialog [10:25] yep, that's the bug part of it [10:25] ok [10:25] perhaps the new kernel changed something with mtime/atime [10:26] it's not new from today [10:26] but the test case failures are weird [10:26] I have the issue since start of the week [10:26] mvo: hi! [10:26] mvo: I'm looking at ubufox code atm because it uses apturl to install plugins, but have two queries.. [10:26] mvo: atm apturl sends a signal on exit with the state of installation (ie installed, aborted, error, etc). Is the correct thing to do here to adapt ubufox not to care about the status? [10:26] mvo: also ubufox sends apturl an http-proxy argument. Is this something that s-c deals with anyway without the argument, or do I need to look into how this works and allow s-c to deal with this? [10:26] ie since apport is running again [10:28] kiwinote: hello! the proxy should be picked up automatically, however if firefox <-> gnome-proxy-settings disagree then having the proxy is a good idea I think [10:28] kiwinote: its a corner case though I think [10:31] mvo: thanks, so that means that apt (via s-c) should use the firefox proxy settings when available, rather than it's own proxy settings? [10:31] kiwinote: I think firefox should use the gnome proxy settings IMO its a bug that it has its own :) [10:31] mvo: ok ;) [10:32] kiwinote: as the signal, you mean that it uses the exit codes to communicate if the install was successful or not? [10:32] mvo: yep [10:33] kiwinote: I think we need to support this [10:34] kiwinote: one way (if s-c is already running) is to make apturl-gtk just send the right dbus signals to the SoftwareCenterDbus controller and collect the status. when all is finished, that bit can exit, while the main s-c can keep running [10:34] mvo: via exit codes, or something else? [10:34] kiwinote: what do you have in mind? we could use dbus, but then we need to port the apturl-kde to that schema [10:35] (make ubufox use dbus instead of spawning a process) [10:38] mvo: I wasn't really sure. Exit codes on s-c itself won't really work as people probably won't close s-c straight away (and firefox is not usable in the meantime). If we don't have apturl-gtk installed (which we shouldn't need to), then we can't use that either.. [10:39] mvo: so then getting ubufox to use dbus sounds the most reasonable solution (be it that I would need to look into dbus and js ;) ) [10:40] mvo: or we don't return a state, and get s-c to prompt to restart the browser after installing certain packages? [10:41] kiwinote: well, if apturl-gtk is just a thin wrapper that calls a SoftwareCenterDbus thing and collects the status, then we can use exit codes. this app would exit, s-c itself would keep running [10:41] mvo: tried synaptic 0.63.1ubuntu10 , but no luck :s , its the same cpu usage as with the lucid version [10:41] mvo: yeah, suppose so [10:45] vish: thanks a bunch, its actually https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/synaptic/0.63.1ubuntu11 (ubuntu11) that has the changes [10:45] seb128: I get the three "no such file or dir" errors as well on maverick [10:45] vish: what architecture do you have? I can send you direct links, its build for amd64 and i386 [10:46] mvo: yeah , i was wondering , where the new version was :D [10:46] i386 [10:46] pitti, ok, "nice" I guess ;-) [10:46] pitti, i.e easier to debug for you [10:46] seb128: just to fix the title, the real bug is that apport pops up for repeated bugs, right? [10:47] mvo: no worries , got the deb for 11 [10:47] pitti, yes [10:47] pitti, I wrongly assumed that the count limit was 3 and that the issue was the counter not incrementing to it [10:47] not sure why I though it was 3 though [10:47] vish: thanks! looking forward for new results [10:48] it starts from 0 [10:48] * pitti hugs mvo because it's Friday and sunny [10:48] * seb128 hugs mvo just because mvo rocks [10:49] * pitti hugs vish as well [10:49] aernt we all lovey dowey today :D [10:49] woah! flash-hug [10:49] * mvo hugs pitti and seb128 and dholbach and vish and kiwinote [10:50] mvo, no dholbach there :-( [10:50] he only joins us when he has desktop issues nowadays :p [10:50] seb128: ha! I just went to #ubuntu-devel to hug him :) [10:50] he can not escape! [10:51] ;-) [10:54] seb128: hm, I have u-n running (UNE), but it's not popping up at all [10:54] do you have apport enable? [10:55] yes, it's writing reports and logging properly [10:56] I guess run u-n --debug... [10:57] if someone could sync bug #603512 for me, that would be cool [10:57] Launchpad bug 603512 in gtest (Ubuntu) "Sync gtest 1.5.0-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main) (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/603512 [10:57] seb128: will do [10:57] mvo, doing it [10:57] thanks seb128 [10:57] seb128: in the meantime, I followed up with some questions [10:57] update-notifier? [10:58] mvo, done [10:58] seb128: oh, *cough* -- just a focus failure of unity [10:58] mvo, pitti doesn't get apport dialogs showing up [10:59] lol [10:59] * seb128 hugs pitti [10:59] aha! [10:59] itz not mvo bug, itz didrocks bug [10:59] :) [10:59] the "claim for attention" is sometime buggy [10:59] you don't notice at all that there's a new window [10:59] I've opened a bug about that a week ago [10:59] well it should be moving in the launcher [10:59] it works in some cases [10:59] but it's often broken [11:03] seb128: followed up again; I can't reproduce, so let's take a look at your stat output [11:03] I'll have some lunch and check out the test case failures after that [11:04] * debian/rules: don't break build on the testsuite it has issues on buildds [11:04] :-( [11:04] it worked before? [11:04] not really [11:04] the new gdbus testcases seem to not like the buildds [11:04] mvo: for synaptic ubuntu11 , i had to new install libept1 , while i have libept0 as well , should libept0 be removed? [11:05] pitti, it seems gdbus can't connect to the bus on the buildds for some reason [11:05] pitti, it's a workaround for now, we need the new version to build and I've no time to debug buildds [11:05] pitti, the testsuite works on local builds [11:05] fun that it works on armel [11:06] ok [11:06] vish: yes, it should appear in the autoremove list once aptitude is updated for libept1 [11:06] * pitti & [11:06] indeed [11:06] pitti, enjoy [11:06] vish: for now you can just keep both, that should be fine [11:07] mvo: yeah , i tried with that , but still no luck. :( the same cpu usage... thats why i was wondering if it was the problem. [11:08] vish: hrm, hrm. thanks! that is odd. it happens on "reload", righ? [11:08] mvo: yeah. only during reloads [11:11] hey, I'm working on this gmail notifier with support for multiple accounts. [11:11] I am facing a problem [11:11] I'm opening Gmail in the browser using python's webbrowser module [11:11] BUT [11:12] and gmail logs in the user automatically based on previous/current session [11:12] desired behavior is that Gmail for the notified account should open [11:13] so i need a way to logout of gmail, then login to the desired account all inside the browser [11:13] any ideas? [11:13] OwaisL, hi, you seem to have made a mistake in the channel [11:14] this channel is about organizing work on the ubuntu-desktop builds [11:14] oh [11:14] try #ubuntu-bugs for bugs [11:14] thanks vish i debug further [11:14] or #ubuntu for user questions [11:15] join #ubuntu-bugs [11:15] mvo: thanks [11:15] oops [11:15] thanks [11:22] vish: silly me, I think I nailed it down, expect a new upload shortly [11:22] vish: but lunch first [11:22] cool! [11:44] seb128: *sigh* heisenbug :-( I'll still look at the test case failuires, though [11:44] pitti, yeah, sorry about that, it was doing it for a week and now it stopped [11:48] Traceback (most recent call last): [11:48] File "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/aptdaemon/gtkwidgets.py", line 508, in _on_download_changed [11:48] iter = model.append((text, progress, uri)) [11:48] AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'append' [11:48] mvo, ^ known issue? [11:57] seb128: ah, itz kees bug [11:57] seb128: test suite can't core dump due to ptrace protection :-( [12:02] seb128: not a known issue, is that reproducable? [12:16] vish: I uploaded yet another version (ubuntu12), once that is build, could you give it a try? [12:16] mvo: sure , thanks. === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [12:20] seb128: test suite problem in maverick fixed in apport's trunk, FYI (rewired the test code to get along with ptrace restrictions) [12:25] pitti, re, sorry I was getting something to eat [12:25] pitti, thanks [12:25] mvo, not easily but that's not the first time I get it [12:26] mvo, I did click on "installing updates", entered my password switched to something else and did esc when the "installing update" dialog was displayed [12:26] mvo, seems there is a race, you can manage to get update-manager in a "waiting" state but with nothing happening [12:28] seb128: that is really a bit odd, model should always be != None [12:29] seb128: let me try that [12:30] mvo, I've the feeling it's a race and you will not easily get it [12:30] mvo, oh in fact it's trivial to get [12:31] mvo, click on "update", enter your password and do "esc, esc, esc" [12:31] ie keep hitting it until the dialg comes and is dismissed [12:31] then apport triggers [12:31] update-manager gets stucked in a busy state [12:31] and you get a zillion apport crash report [12:32] seb128: about the None has no attribute … issue? [12:32] seb128: or about something else? [12:32] pitti, ^ I got 6 extra "apport crash dialogs" about it [12:32] ha! [12:32] have it [12:32] mvo, it gives the stacktrace I gave you [12:33] pitti, oh! [12:33] pitti, ok, I was wrong with my bug [12:33] I didn't actually got the issue with gconf-editor there [12:33] I just use that one to grep for the counter value [12:34] pitti, the counter seems to not work on python exception issues [12:34] aah [12:35] seb128: thanks, I can reproduce, fixing now [12:35] mvo, it did install the updates! [12:35] mvo, ie it didn't take my cancel [12:35] I restarted update-manager now and I've no update listed [12:36] mvo, thanks ;-) [12:36] seb128: ok, please reopen the bug then [12:37] pitti, done [12:38] urg [12:39] mvo, did you change update-manager to not display the names of updates on purpose or that's a bug? [12:39] oh [12:39] it's there ignore me [12:39] it's confusing to have the title first and the package name behind ;-) [12:40] chrisccoulson: hey [12:40] chrisccoulson: shouldn't you be in a swap day rather than updating firefox today? ;-) [12:52] seb128: aptdaemon issue is fixed in bzr [12:52] mvo, you rock, thanks! [13:14] mvo, hi, is there a plan to have apturl integrated with aptdaemon ? [13:17] have a good weekend everyone, see you all on Monday! need to leave early today [13:21] joaopinto: yes [13:22] pitti, have fun! === warp10 is now known as warp10_scared === warp10_scared is now known as warp10 === fta_ is now known as fta === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [13:55] kiwinote: I fixed the enable component problem you mentioned yesterday in aptdaemon [13:55] mvo: thanks! [14:45] seb128, i uploaded gwibber to lucid-proposed, waiting to be approved [14:45] kenvandine, I've noticed you fb post, nice [14:45] it will wait monday I guess [14:45] ok [14:45] we need pitti and he called it a week earlier [14:46] ok, thx [14:46] or trying asking cjwatson if you want [15:24] seb128: hey? [15:24] seb128: what's the story of this gconf package conflict? [15:24] desrt, hello [15:24] desrt, what conflicts? [15:25] there's a package conflict on my system that's preventing gconf from being installed [15:25] details? [15:25] something about some .gir file conflicting with the same file in another package [15:25] well [15:25] thing is, i rebooted with my system in that conflicted state [15:25] so uh... heh [15:25] :X [15:25] sudo apt-get -f install [15:25] oh [15:25] you mean it broke the install in middle in a broken state? [15:26] maybe? [15:26] i tried to do the -f install thing [15:26] or at least the update manager tried on my behalf [15:26] that fixed most things, i think, but somthing is still toasted [15:26] well [15:26] having the package names would help [15:26] or the file conflicting [15:26] i just realised that it's possible that this is caused by the gnome-shell PPA [15:26] those should be in logged in /var/log/apt [15:27] which i t [15:27] hink that i have installed [15:27] it's likely yes [15:27] i forgot about that [15:27] I don't recommend anybody to use it right now [15:27] heh [15:27] with the gir abi change [15:27] is that the canonical company position? :) [15:27] "don't use gnome shell!" [15:27] ;-) [15:28] don't use rebuild of tons of system libs from a ppa [15:28] rather [15:28] the guys having the ppa has been taking the new gir abi [15:28] so he's basically doing packaging changes to everything building a gir [15:28] I'm not really surprised it creates issues [15:29] ya... almost certainly the blame lies there, then [15:29] PPAs are a bit scary in a way [15:29] you install them for some small purpose [15:29] but yeah, all those transitions make updating g-s challenging now [15:29] i think you just summed up xorg-edgers to a tee there seb128 :) [15:29] and they have the ability to take over your entire system as the guy who built it increases the number of packages in there [15:30] when you remove it doing "sudo apt-get install packagename/lucid" will get you back to the level you're supposed to be at [15:30] or /maverick or whatever [15:30] especially that walters and jdhalin said the abi and typelib will break [15:30] in my case i didn't even realise what was going on until i considered how unlikely it was that ubuntu substantially changed the packaging mid-release [15:30] sudo apt-get install ppa-purge && sudo ppa-purge ppaname [15:30] :) [15:30] seb128: walters is talking about switching the typelib to be the same file format as dconf :p [15:30] lol [15:30] do we put ppa purge somewhere common or is it still in the Xorg PPAs? [15:30] well we will not transition until the abi changes settle [15:30] it's a good file format, dude! [15:31] no discussion ;-) [15:31] I'm just saying Debian and Ubuntu agree to wait a bit [15:31] but it means we can't get new g-s builds easily [15:31] since they depends on those changes [15:31] i think he copied it to the gnome-shell ppa if its ricotz's one [15:31] so the ppa has to divert a lot [15:31] Sarvatt, he's the one doing the g-s builds yes [15:32] yeah ppa-purge is in there [15:32] sudo apt-get install ppa-purge && sudo ppa-purge ppa:ricotz/testing then :) [15:35] a lot easier and safer to just jhbuild gnome-shell for now === fta_ is now known as fta [16:02] mvo: w0000000t!!!!! it works ubuntu12 no constant cpu spike ... :D [16:02] vish: \o/ [16:02] the https alone has a spike but that drops in a couple of secs [16:02] vish: thanks a million for testing that [16:02] mvo: np. thank *you* :) [16:03] vish: please keep using it, if you see no regressions over the weekend I think we should try to get it into lucid-proposed [16:03] mvo: sure. will keep an eye out . [16:04] great, tahnks vish [16:05] np. [16:16] vish, how is this? :D (more tango than humanity style) http://imagebin.ca/img/YqT84wY.png [16:18] and471: looks good. humanity is tango with a different palette and a few minor variations , this should fit well.. btw which icon is it for? [16:19] vish, if you are asking that question, I think I have failed [16:19] ... [16:19] vish, :D [16:19] vish, it is for adjusting hue saturationa and brightness (I think) [16:19] and471, that gnome color thing? [16:19] and471: nah , it looks like some adjust .. i dont remember all the items in shotwell :) [16:19] and471: see:) [16:19] ah [16:19] for shotwell :) [16:20] kenvandine, yup yup :) [16:20] vish, I think the papercut needs to be split in two [16:20] vish, 1) use stanard stock icons for those that are applicable [16:20] *standard [16:20] and471: feel free to split it.. [16:21] vish, 2) make the icons that have to be shipped with shotwell better (and generic tango style) [16:21] vish, merci beaucoup [16:22] does anyone know if shotwell has an irc channel? [16:25] and471: "yorba-jim" stops by in this channel on occassion [16:25] jcastro, thanks [16:28] * and471 just used the new Opinion status on launchpad [16:31] is that supposed to be a "terminal" status? [16:31] LaserJock, :) [16:32] to me it sounds like an Importance status like a bit below "Wishlist" [16:56] and471: where is the preferences in shotwell? are you on Maverick? [16:57] i cant seem to find it in Lucid.. :s [16:57] vish, should be edit> preferences, I am on the svn version though [16:57] is this the bug I filed? [16:57] yeah [16:58] and471: cool , probably not in lucid [16:58] no prefs of any kind [16:59] vish, don't worry about that bug, it is set to opinion, so unless anyone has an opinion on it, it is wont fix upstream [16:59] vish, yeah must just be in SVN, you want a screenshot? 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