[00:02] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: ^^
[00:02] <shadeslayer> ScottK: /build/buildd/konq-plugins-4.4.0/fsview/fsview_part.cpp:151: warning: 'KMenu* KActionMenu::popupMenu()' is deprecated (declared at //usr/include/kactionmenu.h:75) << is one error?
[00:03] <ScottK> shadeslayer: No.  /build/buildd/konq-plugins-4.4.0/adblock/adblock.cpp:303: error: call of overloaded 'QString(int)' is ambiguous
[00:04] <shadeslayer> ScottK: ok ?
[00:04] <shadeslayer> uh.. s/??
[00:07] <JontheEchidna> once 4.5 extragear tarballs are released, that will be fixed
[00:07] <shadeslayer> so.. i dont have to work on that?
[00:08]  * shadeslayer takes 15 min coffee break
[00:18] <shadeslayer> either a) Riddell is hiding from us,because his fb account just changed its status to away.... or b) someone hacked his fb account :P
[00:18] <shadeslayer> or c) im seeing stuff @ 5 in the morning
[00:19] <lex79> lol
[00:23] <shadeslayer> lex79: ok so,onto kdepim...
[00:24] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: so do i work on konq-plugins or not?
[00:24] <lex79> do it kdenetwork, kdepim is not a priority for now
[00:24] <lex79> :P
[00:24] <shadeslayer> ok..
[00:24] <lex79> shadeslayer: thanks :-*
[00:25] <shadeslayer> pim needs grantlee in main too
[00:25] <lex79> yeah
[00:25] <shadeslayer> lex79: btw did you poke kdenetwork any further?
[00:25] <lex79> nope
[00:38] <lex79> kdebindings needs a patch, it is always a beast
[00:55] <Quintasan> fck yeah!
[00:55] <Quintasan> got vim on androids
[00:55] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: after so many hours :)
[00:55] <lex79> :D
[00:56] <shadeslayer> btw anyone have the svn checkout link of choqok?
[00:56] <shadeslayer> http://choqok.gnufolks.org/development/ is failing atm
[00:56] <shadeslayer> oh got it
[01:07]  * Quintasan goes to bed
[01:11] <ScottK> Riddell: I think 27 pixels is about the shortest we can make the panel without trouble from stuff not fitting.
[01:11] <CIA-33> [muon] jmthomas * 1148185 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/DetailsTabs/ (DependsTab.cpp TechnicalDetailsTab.cpp) Make all tabs "no package set yet" safe, so that when QApt::Backend announces that a package changed when we hit the upgrade button, we won't crash loading the ReviewWidget
[01:12] <shadeslayer> lex79: kdenetwork building
[01:12] <lex79> good :)
[01:12] <shadeslayer> with google call stuff in seprate package
[01:13] <shadeslayer> i can poke other Universe stuff till then :P
[01:14] <lex79> did you add some build-depends?
[01:14] <shadeslayer> yes
[01:14] <shadeslayer> libmediastreamer and libortp
[01:14] <shadeslayer> both are in main.. dont worry
[01:14] <lex79> again... :(
[01:14] <lex79> no !
[01:14] <shadeslayer> hmm?
[01:15] <shadeslayer> lex79: any problems?
[01:15] <lex79> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kdenetwork/ubuntu/revision/91
[01:15] <lex79> we can't do that
[01:15] <shadeslayer> lex79: yes i know,thats why google call binary is in a seprate package
[01:15] <shadeslayer> that will go in universe
[01:16] <lex79> but libkopete will be build with libmediastreamer and libortp and libkopete is in the CD
[01:16] <shadeslayer> lex79: yeah,but will libkopete want the package is the real question
[01:17] <lex79> well, I think kopete-gcall requires libkopete to works
[01:17] <lex79> *to work
[01:17] <shadeslayer> yes
[01:17] <lex79> so?
[01:17] <lex79> :)
[01:17] <shadeslayer> but... will the libkopete package also pull in avmediacodec?
[01:18] <shadeslayer> i know it has a build dep on it...
[01:18] <shadeslayer> but that does not mean that it will require that package too
[01:18] <lex79> maybe someone can explain better than me
[01:20] <shadeslayer> lex79: so you want me to build it without those deps?
[01:21] <lex79> yes for now
[01:21] <shadeslayer> ok
[01:21] <shadeslayer> building without them now
[01:21] <lex79> thanks
[01:21] <shadeslayer> lex79: you can upload to main now?
[01:21] <shadeslayer> or universe
[01:22] <lex79> only to main and only kubuntu packages
[01:22] <lex79> no Universe since I'm not Motu
[01:23] <shadeslayer> kewl
[01:23] <shadeslayer> must be a PITA to upload Qt tho :p
[01:24] <lex79> refresh Qt patches is a pita too :)
[01:24] <shadeslayer> hehe
[01:26] <shadeslayer> lex79: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qt4-x11/4:4.7.0~beta2-0ubuntu1/+build/1862598 good stuff
[01:27] <lex79> :)
[01:28] <evilshadeslayer> lex79: btw suppose a package is being merged with debian,and the debian changelog has multiple entries,how do i merge the changelogs? just copy over the new debian changes to ubuntu changelog and use dch -i ?
[01:30] <lex79> you mean multiple entries after our last merge?
[01:30] <evilshadeslayer> yes
[01:30] <evilshadeslayer> no one cared to update our package since intrepid
[01:30] <evilshadeslayer> and debian uploaded updates
[01:31] <evilshadeslayer> even the source changed :P
[01:31] <lex79> yes just copy over the new debian changes
[01:31] <evilshadeslayer> ok
[01:32] <evilshadeslayer> hmm
[01:32] <evilshadeslayer> lex79: new deps for kdenetwork i guess http://pastebin.com/Z0BwH8Xg
[01:33] <evilshadeslayer> libktorrent
[01:33] <lex79> uhm after the freeze? O.O
[01:34] <evilshadeslayer> either that,or we ignored it last time
[01:34] <lex79> you can add libktorrent
[01:34] <evilshadeslayer> yeah
[01:34] <evilshadeslayer> other stuff is in universe
[01:34] <lex79> ok
[01:36] <evilshadeslayer> and we dont want to add libortp
[01:36] <lex79> nope
[01:37] <lex79> JontheEchidna: bug 603824
[01:37] <lex79> need ack
[01:39] <JontheEchidna> ack'd
[01:39] <lex79> thanks
[01:40] <evilshadeslayer> lex79: btw suppose debian ships debian-changes-20080303git-3 in debian/patches , would we want to keep that?
[01:40] <lex79> yes
[01:41] <evilshadeslayer> ok
[01:48] <evilshadeslayer> lex79: http://pastebin.com/Rzs9zHis << debdiff for package im merging :P
[01:48] <evilshadeslayer> 10k line debdiff :D
[01:48] <evilshadeslayer> make that 11k
[01:49] <lex79> only diff between debian directories is needed, and is better to read
[01:49] <evilshadeslayer> thought so :)
[01:51] <lex79> - Set Ubuntu maintainer address, no need to write it in the changelog
[01:51] <evilshadeslayer> ok
[01:51] <evilshadeslayer> lex79: http://pastebin.com/c54Z5Lxz
[01:51] <evilshadeslayer> it still has the maintainer thing in changelog
[01:53] <evilshadeslayer> lex79: http://pastebin.com/YQTYL9t9
[01:54] <evilshadeslayer> ooh
[01:54] <evilshadeslayer> kdenetwork failed :D
[01:54] <evilshadeslayer> http://pastebin.com/26Pc2xJb
[01:55] <lex79> there are a ton of changes that you didn't write in changelog
[01:56] <evilshadeslayer> libktorrent still isnt picked up..
[01:56] <evilshadeslayer> lex79: like?
[01:56] <evilshadeslayer> the rest of the stuff is from debian
[01:56] <lex79> see debian/rules for example
[01:56] <evilshadeslayer> yaeh
[01:56] <lex79> also copyright
[01:57] <evilshadeslayer> lex79: line 27
[01:57] <lex79> source format 3.0 in Debian but not in Ubuntu
[01:57] <evilshadeslayer> debian has already documented that change
[01:57] <evilshadeslayer> line 25
[01:57] <lex79> it seems you forgot to add in Ubuntu package the Debian changes
[01:58] <evilshadeslayer> lines 14 to 57 :P
[01:58] <evilshadeslayer> all of them are debian changes
[01:58] <lex79> why not you merged in the Ubuntu package?
[01:58] <evilshadeslayer> the only change i made to debian packaging was the dh_icons stuff
[01:58] <evilshadeslayer> lex79: i have merged ubuntu package....
[01:59] <evilshadeslayer> get ubuntu package -> get debian package -> merge changelogs of ubuntu package with debian package -> change debian packaging according to ubuntu packaging -> take diff
[02:01] <CIA-33> [muon] jmthomas * 1148188 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/ (6 files in 3 dirs) String fixes, plus a few other Krazy-related fixes
[02:01] <lex79> well, maybe I'm tired, but seems you did the opposite
[02:01] <evilshadeslayer> hehe.. well .. thats how Riddell told me to do it :P
[02:02] <lex79> the diff that you do, should show only the Ubuntu changes
[02:02] <lex79> only the Ubuntu differences
[02:02] <evilshadeslayer> lex79: ive take the diff between the old ubuntu package and new ubuntu package
[02:02] <evilshadeslayer> not new ubuntu package and new debian package
[02:03] <lex79> ah
[02:03] <lex79> the diff says ubuntu -> debian
[02:03] <evilshadeslayer> yeah thats wrong
[02:03] <evilshadeslayer> i just named the 2 folders debian and ubuntu :P
[02:03] <lex79> LoL
[02:03] <evilshadeslayer> debian means new ubuntu package :P
[02:03] <lex79> LoL
[02:03] <lex79> :D
[02:04] <evilshadeslayer> hehe :D
[02:04] <evilshadeslayer> anyways.. the patch will be applied with -p1 :p
[02:05] <lex79> ok
[02:06] <lex79> evilshadeslayer: remove libktorrent-dev from the build-depends
[02:06] <evilshadeslayer> lex79: http://pastebin.com/1Hye0uk6 happy?
[02:06] <evilshadeslayer> :D
[02:06] <evilshadeslayer> lex79: why?
[02:07] <lex79> because it ftbs
[02:07] <evilshadeslayer> lex79: btw libktorrent wasnt picked up
[02:07] <lex79> did you add libktorrent? or libktorrent-dev?
[02:07] <evilshadeslayer> oh wait
[02:07] <evilshadeslayer> it was.. 
[02:07] <evilshadeslayer> i was reading the old backlog
[02:08] <evilshadeslayer> ok,will remove
[02:12] <evilshadeslayer> lex79: bug 603831
[02:16] <lex79> show that in Motu channell
[02:16] <evilshadeslayer> lex79: already did..
[02:16] <evilshadeslayer> :)
[02:39] <evilshadeslayer> lex79: kdenetwork 77 pc built
[02:42] <kaitos> is kde 4.5 rc1 in the beta ppa build on qt 4.7?
[02:42] <JontheEchidna> kaitos: yep
[02:42] <lex79>  kdenetwork 77 pc ?
[02:43] <lex79> what means? are you building kdenetwork with 77 computer?
[02:43] <lex79> JontheEchidna: ^
[02:43] <lex79> LoL
[02:43] <JontheEchidna> where does it say that?
 lex79: kdenetwork 77 pc built
[02:44] <kaitos> JontheEchidna: ah okay, i've been diving into kde development, do you know what i need to do to fix errors like this: http://pastebin.ca/1897610
[02:44] <evilshadeslayer> lex79: :P
[02:44]  * lex79 fighting again with kdebindings
[02:44] <evilshadeslayer> lex79: i meant that kdenetworj is 77 pc compiled with pdebuild
[02:44] <lex79> sometimes I won
[02:45] <evilshadeslayer> *kdenetwork
[02:45] <lex79> ah
[02:45] <evilshadeslayer> 98 pc right now :P
[02:45] <lex79> 77% ?
[02:45] <evilshadeslayer> pc == %
[02:45] <JontheEchidna> kaitos: it looks like you're trying to build without Qt 4.7
[02:46]  * lex79 almost wins against bindings
[02:48]  * kaitos checks environment variables
[02:48] <JontheEchidna> QIcon::name() is a new function in Qt 4.7, and so are those other two probably
[02:51]  * lex79 win over bindings
[02:51] <lex79> \o/
[02:51] <lex79> lex79++
[02:54] <kaitos> JontheEchidna: hmm, libdbusmenu-qt2 came from betta ppa, would think it was built off 4.7
[02:59] <lex79> libdbusmenu is built with Qt 4.7 beta1+git20100522-0ubuntu1~lucid1~ppa1 in beta ppa
[02:59] <lex79> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/51042059/buildlog_ubuntu-lucid-amd64.libdbusmenu-qt_0.5.0-0ubuntu1~lucid1~ppa1_FULLYBUILT.txt.gz
[03:01] <evilshadeslayer> lex79: http://pastebin.com/AMJjCGDk
[03:02] <evilshadeslayer> seems ok to leave those files
[03:02] <evilshadeslayer> not last one tho
[03:03] <evilshadeslayer> hmm.. its already installed by khtml
[03:03] <evilshadeslayer> debian/kget.install:usr/share/kde4/apps/khtml/kpartplugins/kget_plug_in.rc
[03:06] <lex79> it's different
[03:06] <evilshadeslayer> really?
[03:06] <evilshadeslayer> ok.. will add
[03:06] <evilshadeslayer> what about the other 2?
[03:06] <lex79> already installed
[03:06] <evilshadeslayer> dont think so
[03:06] <evilshadeslayer> debian/krdc.install:#usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.freedesktop.Telepathy.Client.krdc_rfb_approver.service 
[03:07] <evilshadeslayer> disabled by #
[03:07] <lex79> ok, so don't add them
[03:07] <evilshadeslayer> ok
[03:08] <evilshadeslayer> lex79: where to put -./usr/share/kde4/apps/dolphinpart/kpartplugins/kget_plug_in.rc then?
[03:08] <lex79> in kget
[03:08] <evilshadeslayer> kget
[03:08] <evilshadeslayer> right :)
[03:08] <lex79> exactly !
[03:09] <lex79> :)
[03:13] <lex79> evilshadeslayer: FYI you can read this for an example of merge
[03:13] <evilshadeslayer> hmm
[03:13] <lex79> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/MaverickKDEMerges
[03:14] <evilshadeslayer> right
[03:15] <evilshadeslayer> lex79: ive sort of grown comfortable with my method :P
[03:16] <lex79> if you want developers that sponsor your packages you should use that way :P
[03:16] <lex79> especially here
[03:16] <evilshadeslayer> :P
[03:16] <evilshadeslayer> whats wrong with my diff :P
[03:18] <evilshadeslayer> kdenetwork uploaded
[03:19] <lex79> \o/
[03:20] <evilshadeslayer> _now_ i can watch star wars :P
[03:20] <evilshadeslayer> wait.. havent uploaded to bzr :P
[03:22] <lex79> also for lucid :)
[03:23] <lex79> look if there is boost build-depends
[03:23] <evilshadeslayer> yeah
[03:23] <evilshadeslayer> lex79: uploaded for lucid as well :P
[03:24] <evilshadeslayer> in bzr 
[03:25] <lex79> ok thanks
[03:25] <evilshadeslayer> np
[03:25] <lex79> evilshadeslayer: kdegames for lucid?
[03:26] <evilshadeslayer> yikes
[03:26] <evilshadeslayer> forgot :P
[03:26] <evilshadeslayer> kdegames for maverick needs a small change too
[03:26] <lex79> what change?
[03:26] <evilshadeslayer> lex79: really bump kde sc dev latest to 4.4.92 :P
[03:27] <evilshadeslayer> i forgot that ><
[03:27] <lex79> only in bzr?
[03:27] <evilshadeslayer> only in ppa
[03:27] <evilshadeslayer> bzr is fine
[03:27] <evilshadeslayer> realised after uploading :)
[03:28] <lex79> well upload with ~ppa2 in version
[03:28] <evilshadeslayer> yeah
[03:28] <lex79> if you still have the source is easy to do :)
[03:29] <evilshadeslayer> dont have the source :P
[03:29] <lex79> we can survive without it
[03:29] <lex79> no problem
[03:29] <evilshadeslayer> dont worry .. i have a zippy connection now :D
[03:30] <evilshadeslayer> well.. on the other hand..
[03:30] <evilshadeslayer> meh..
[03:30] <evilshadeslayer> dget is fail
[03:30] <evilshadeslayer> i guess i cant dget from private PPA
[03:30] <lex79> JontheEchidna: I uploaded qt beta2 in ppa also for lucid, should I rebuild all packages for you?
[03:31] <lex79> or it's not vital?
[03:31] <JontheEchidna> lex79: maybe libdbusmenu-qt, (I think it wouldn't hurt to update it either)
[03:31] <evilshadeslayer> lex79: ill come back to kdegames in 3-4 hours.. going to sleep now
[03:32] <lex79> JontheEchidna: so just libdbusmenu?
[03:32] <evilshadeslayer> ciao
[03:32] <lex79> evilshadeslayer: ciao :)
[03:32] <JontheEchidna> lex79: I think that's the only one causing problems atm
[03:32] <lex79> ok
[04:44] <ScottK> Anyone know if there's a reason why http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/KBackup?content=44998 is not packaged?
[04:44] <ScottK> What do we normally do for homepage fields for kde-apps/look?
[04:46] <lex79> we put the page that you linked here ^
[04:46] <lex79> in copyright we do the same, that page ^
[04:51] <ScottK> lex79: Tanks.
[04:51] <lex79> np
[04:51] <ScottK> ..h..
[04:52] <lex79> :)
[05:53] <ScottK> lex79 or JontheEchidna: Would one of you please look at http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/kbackup - Seems to work pretty well.
[06:08] <solid_liq> anyone know if there's a way to tell Qt Creator to split builds amongst a specified number of processes to utilize my multicore processor better?
[06:08] <solid_liq> as in, like with make, using -j # to split to # processes
[06:31] <ulysses> JontheEchidna: there is a missing space bar in the status bar of Muon http://people.ubuntu.com/~ulysses/images/muon/muonremove.png
[10:05] <debfx> ScottK: regarding the kbackup package: the rules file needs to say "--with kde" instead of "--with-kde"
[10:58] <jussi> hrr
[10:58] <jussi> cant install maverick, doesnt find my hdd
[12:59] <JontheEchidna> ulysses: Yup, that's been fixed. In svn it also tells you how much you will need to download and how much space the install will take.
[13:03] <JontheEchidna> ScottK: I don't think that # DEB_KDE_LINK_WITH_AS_NEEDED ?= yes is needed in debian/rules (It's commented out anyways).  The packaging looks great, though
[13:08] <amichair> JontheEchidna: I had a few moment to start taking a peek at libqapt
[13:09] <amichair> JontheEchidna: in Cacho::open, I think there's a danger of double-freeing - maybe the deletes should be accompanied by nulling the pointers?
[13:09] <amichair> JontheEchidna: (my cpp/qt is rusty so I may be wrong)
[13:10] <JontheEchidna> well, it can't hurt to be safe :)
[13:11] <amichair> JontheEchidna: in package.cpp:72 the !found.end() looks redundant (it's the loop invariant)
[13:11] <JontheEchidna> I'll probably just do if (d->cache) delete d->cache, etc
[13:11] <amichair> JontheEchidna: but u still need to null it or it'll pass the if a second time around (but with an invalid pointer)
[13:12] <JontheEchidna> All the pointers are new'd in the same function, so I don't think that's going to be a problem
[13:13] <amichair> JontheEchidna: the method can return at various points before such initialization takes place (them return false's)
[13:13] <JontheEchidna> ah, good point
[13:14] <Mamarok> my wallpaer and widgets are not rememberd when loging out, using 4.5 RC1 on Lucid , is this a known problem?
[13:14] <Mamarok> wallpaper*
[13:17] <CIA-33> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1148369 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/cache.cpp Null our pointers and do conditional deletes to prevent potential double-freeing of pointers.
[13:20] <amichair> JontheEchidna: that should work. Note that deleting a null pointer is always safe, so the if's are not really needed.
[13:21] <CIA-33> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1148370 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/package.cpp Update a note before I forget ;)
[13:29] <JontheEchidna> amichair: So what you're saying for the loop invariant is that found.end() will always be true, since it  wouldn't enter the foor loop if it wasn't?
[13:30] <amichair> JontheEchidna: if I'm not mistaken :-)
[13:30] <JontheEchidna> makes sense
[13:31] <amichair> (u meant found.end() will always be false)
[13:32] <amichair> (or !found.end() always true)
[13:32] <JontheEchidna> right
[13:32] <CIA-33> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1148374 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/package.cpp !found.end() will always be true, since the for loop would not be entered if it was false.
[13:38] <CIA-33> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1148375 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/package.cpp SVN_SILENT: Remove outdated TODO comment
[13:39] <CIA-33> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1148376 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/package.cpp Typo fix in variable name
[13:44] <amichair> JontheEchidna: what does the QMutexLocker in DebugPrivate::stream do?
[13:44] <JontheEchidna> amichair: apachelogger wrote that code two days ago. I've not had the chance to look over it, but apparently it should be heavily based on qDebug() from Qt
[13:45] <JontheEchidna> amichair: I wouldn't worry about that class too much, it's only used by people coding on the worker so that they can debug it, since it has to be invoked by a root'd dbus
[13:45] <amichair> ok... I just don't see what it's trying to guard (unless the qdebug constructor manipulates the stream in some way that is not thread-safe?)
[13:46] <JontheEchidna> qDebug() is not thread safe, so this probably isn't either
[13:46] <amichair> so the locker only guards the setType call, which seems pointless
[13:47] <amichair> JontheEchidna: I'll just mention things I see that seem worth mentioning... if it's not really used... good ;-)
[13:48] <JontheEchidna> It is appreciated, thanks
[13:56] <CIA-33> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1148377 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/backend.cpp Qt containers should be more efficient than their std counterparts, if the Qt docs are to be believed ;)
[13:57] <amichair> JontheEchidna: backend.cpp has a '== false' and '!= true', which seem kindof funny
[13:58] <JontheEchidna> lol
[13:58] <JontheEchidna> synaptic silliness
[13:59] <amichair> :)
[13:59] <JontheEchidna> well, I'll be back this afternoon
[14:00] <CIA-33> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1148379 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/backend.cpp Less confusing boolean crap
[14:00] <JontheEchidna> feel free to just ping me with things you notice, I'll read the scrollback upon my return
[14:00] <amichair> gotta go out too. I'll have do some more peeking and poking when I get the chance
[14:08] <evilshadeslayer> lex79: poke
[14:08] <evilshadeslayer> lex79: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kdepim-runtime/ubuntu << kdepim runtime is in bzr
[14:09] <evilshadeslayer> infact... you were the one who told me to sort the install files :P
[14:14] <yofel> Mamarok: checked if you're not using the wrong activity? happened to me too once
[14:15] <evilshadeslayer> ^^ yeah,apparently multiple activities get added
[14:15] <evilshadeslayer> so check for them too ... and delete the ones you dont need
[14:15] <Mamarok> yofel: define wrong activity? I use the default settings
[14:15] <evilshadeslayer> Mamarok: uh.. do you the concept of Activities in KDE?
[14:17] <yofel> plasma once switched activities by itself here, thus making it look like it forgot my settings, click on the ... menu? on the right edge of the screen, and switch through the acitivities
[14:17] <amichair> JontheEchidna: package.h docs mention Group/GroupPrivate, is this a leftover after renaming?
[14:18] <Mamarok> evilshadeslayer: I lost trace and understanding of it, they change it all the time
[14:18] <amichair> JontheEchidna: package.h: s/Sets an unsets/Sets and unsets/
[14:18] <Mamarok> yofel: there is no more way to add different activities AFAICT
[14:19] <amichair> JontheEchidna: or just s/Sets an unsets/Sets/
[14:19] <yofel> Mamarok: I can add as many as I want here...
[14:19] <evilshadeslayer> Mamarok: hehe :P
[14:19] <evilshadeslayer> Mamarok: you can add as many activities you want
[14:19] <Mamarok> yofel: you don't use KDE 4.5 RC1, don't you?
[14:20] <yofel> Mamarok: I'm running maverick, so I am
[14:20] <Mamarok> hm, then something is missing on my desktop, how on earth can I do that? The cashew is gone, only the right click works now
[14:20] <yofel> go to that menu on the right edge of the screen -> Activities
[14:20] <Mamarok> and I don't want a folder view
[14:20] <evilshadeslayer> Mamarok: http://imagebin.ca/view/pRh6yoS.html
[14:20]  * jussi grumbles again at the fact he cant install maverick
[14:20] <yofel> (how's that menu called anyway?)
[14:20] <evilshadeslayer> jussi: ssup?
[14:20] <Mamarok> yofel: right edge = Cashew, there is no menu
[14:21] <jussi> evilshadeslayer: it doesnt detect my hdd
[14:21] <yofel> Mamarok: ah right, thanks, I meant that
[14:21] <evilshadeslayer> jussi: 0_o
[14:21] <evilshadeslayer> jussi: not even the alternate CD?
[14:21] <Mamarok> evilshadeslayer: my desktopdoesn't look like that, no button for the activity
[14:22] <jussi> evilshadeslayer: not even the alternat...
[14:22] <Mamarok> crap, what is wrong in my settings?
[14:22]  * Mamarok goes to remove the config files and tries again
[14:22] <yofel> hm, if I click on the cashew, I get a menu item called Activities, which gets me the menu from the screenshot Mamarok
[14:23] <Mamarok> yofel: did you read what I said? I have no cashew, nor menu or whatever, and in the right click there is no option to add more activities at all
[14:23] <Mamarok> so something is screwed with my configs I guess
[14:24] <Mamarok> but how did that happen? When upgrading to 4.5 it should update the settings, no?
[14:25] <evilshadeslayer> jussi: btw whats the channel for bot wars?
[14:25] <evilshadeslayer> there was this channel for everyone to show their bots
[14:25] <jussi> evilshadeslayer: botwars?
[14:26] <evilshadeslayer> right
[14:26] <jussi> err
[14:26] <jussi> no idea.
[14:26] <jussi> perhaps ##test ...
[14:28] <evilshadeslayer> nope
[14:31] <jussi> evilshadeslayer: ask in #freenode
[14:31] <evilshadeslayer> ok
[14:46] <Mamarok> OK, so my settings were screwed, but now when I andd one activity it adds a bazillion, how can I remove those again?
[14:46] <Mamarok> add*
[14:46] <evilshadeslayer> amichair: uh see the stop button
[14:46] <evilshadeslayer> in my screen shot
[14:47] <evilshadeslayer> hmm.. no stop button there :P
[14:47] <evilshadeslayer> well.. if you go over to unamed there will be a stop button
[14:48] <Mamarok> but why does it add so mayn in the first place? That surely is a bug, no?
[14:49] <Mamarok> I wanted to add one, clicked on one and I end up with so mayn I can't even count them
[14:49] <Mamarok> the activity bar is too small
[14:49] <Mamarok> many*
[14:50] <Mamarok> or my screen not large enough
[14:50] <ScottK> debfx and JontheEchidna: Thanks.
[14:57] <shadeslayer> seems jefferai is doing maintainence on his core :P
[14:58] <Mamarok> hm, seems to be a bug in the Activity bar, it shows all possible activities, so if I a dd anew one it ends up at the right end and I don't see the first ones anymore
[15:43] <shadeslayer_> Mamarok: hmm.. doesnt happen here
[15:45] <Mamarok> you mean you don't have 30 default activities showing when trying to switch activity?
[15:47] <evilshadeslayer> no[e
[15:47] <evilshadeslayer> *nope
[15:48]  * evilshadeslayer pokes his irc bot
[15:50] <evilshadeslayer> Mamarok: im on maverick tho
[15:51] <evilshadeslayer> but theres not much thats changed between maverick and lucid packages
[15:51] <ulysses> my wallpaper changed to the default:o
[15:53] <ulysses> I didn't even touched the keyboard or the touchpad
[15:55] <Mamarok> evilshadeslayer: I asked in #plasa, apparently a bug thaqt cerates a new activity on every start...
[15:55] <Mamarok> #plasma
[15:55] <evilshadeslayer> weird.. 
[15:55] <evilshadeslayer> Mamarok: your on 4.4.90 right?
[15:56] <Mamarok> yes
[15:56] <Mamarok> what about 4.4.92, any ETA?
[15:56] <evilshadeslayer> hmm.. 
[15:56] <Mamarok> or are the buildservers lame again
[15:56] <evilshadeslayer> Mamarok: probably a few more hours
[15:57] <evilshadeslayer> i think lex79 uploaded a new Qt snapshot
[15:57] <evilshadeslayer> so maybe everything needs a rebuild :P
[15:57] <Mamarok> gah, I hope that thunderstorm is coming soon, I am melting, sweating like a horse
[15:57] <evilshadeslayer> not sure...
[15:57] <evilshadeslayer> kubotu: weather Gurgaon,India
[15:57] <kubotu> Weather info for New Delhi, India (updated on 8:00 PM IST on July 10, 2010); Temperature: 88 F / 31 C; Humidity: 62%; Dew Point: 73 F / 23 C; Wind: SW at 6 mph / 9 km/h; Pressure: 29.47 in / 998 hPa (Steady); Conditions: Haze; Visibility: 2.2 miles / 3.5 kilometers; UV: 0 out of 16; Clouds: Scattered Clouds (SCT) : 3500 ft / 1066 m  (FEW) : 4000 ft / 1219 m  Mostly Cloudy (BKN) : 10000 ft / 3048 m; Yesterday's Cooling
[15:57] <kubotu> Degree Days: 28 approx.; Sunrise: 5:31 AM IST; Sunset: 7:22 PM IST; Moon Rise: 3:37 AM IST; Moon Set: 6:07 PM IST; Moon Phase: Waning Crescent
[15:57] <evilshadeslayer> 31 oC is kewl
[15:58] <Mamarok> it's 33°C here and it says feels like 35°C
[15:58] <evilshadeslayer> :P
[15:58] <Mamarok> humidity must be 00% now
[15:58] <Mamarok> 100%
[15:58] <evilshadeslayer> we had a thunder storm about 2 hours ago
[15:58] <evilshadeslayer> Mamarok: lol
[15:58] <Mamarok> hygrometer say 85%
[15:59] <evilshadeslayer> apachelogger: oh poke
[15:59] <Mamarok> no wind at all
[16:00] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna, amichair: the mutex+mutexlocker is there to make it thread-safe
[16:00] <apachelogger> the mutex locked function will issue the writing to the file stream
[16:01] <apachelogger> so, unless it is locked two threads can at the same time write to the stream...
[16:01] <apachelogger> evilshadeslayer: huh?
[16:02] <evilshadeslayer> apachelogger: is kubotu koded in ruby?
[16:02] <apachelogger> aye
[16:02] <apachelogger> that said
[16:02] <evilshadeslayer> apachelogger: gimme kode then :P
[16:02] <apachelogger> jussi: any suggestions what to do with the bot?
[16:03] <apachelogger> kubotu: google ruby rbot
[16:03] <kubotu> Results for ruby rbot: 1. rbot: http://ruby-rbot.org/ | 2. InstallGuide – rbot: http://ruby-rbot.org/rbot-trac/wiki/InstallGuide | 3. rbot | The Tom Gilbert Blog: http://linuxbrit.co.uk/software/rbot/
[16:03] <apachelogger> evilshadeslayer: ^
[16:03] <evilshadeslayer> also.. i see loads of ruby frameworks that i can use
[16:03] <evilshadeslayer> ooj
[16:06] <shadeslayer> oho
[16:06] <shadeslayer> i can cause quassel core to crash :D
[16:06] <Guest85671> remotely
[16:07] <ulysses> yeah, there's a special topic that can cause Quassel-crash
[16:07] <Mamarok> it's raining, finally :)
[16:07] <evilshadeslayer> ulysses: just type /query in quassel
[16:07] <evilshadeslayer> and voila! quassel crashes
[16:07] <evilshadeslayer> Mamarok: w00t
[16:08] <evilshadeslayer> jefferai: oh hey
[16:08] <ulysses> then two thing can make a crash
[16:08] <apachelogger> I am wondering why raise NoAccessToken(subprocess.Popen(["kcheckrunning"]).wait()) does not work :/
[16:08] <evilshadeslayer> jefferai: i sort of made your core crash :P
[16:09]  * apachelogger supposes that python does not like exceptions being raised with ints
[16:09] <apachelogger>         if subprocess.Popen(["kcheckrunning"]).wait() == 0:
[16:09] <apachelogger>             raise NoAccessToken("0")
[16:09] <apachelogger> does not work either -.-
[16:09] <jefferai> evilshadeslayer: what are you doing?
[16:09] <jefferai> and, stop it :-)
[16:10] <evilshadeslayer> jefferai: i just put /query in quassel client
[16:10]  * apachelogger shouldnt apply for gsoc projects that is related to the python
[16:10] <evilshadeslayer> and the core crashed :P
[16:10] <jefferai> erm
[16:10] <jefferai> Sput: ^
[16:10] <evilshadeslayer> happens in quassel as well
[16:10] <jefferai> evilshadeslayer: don't do that anymore until Sput or EgS figures out why
[16:10] <evilshadeslayer> jefferai: sorry.. i didnt know :(
[16:10] <jefferai> KRF: sorry for the disconnects, blame evilshadeslayer
[16:10] <apachelogger> awoga
[16:10] <jefferai> :-)
[16:10] <evilshadeslayer> just found out :P
[16:10] <apachelogger> kcheckrunning seems to work \o/
[16:10] <evilshadeslayer> hehe :D
[16:11] <Sput> [17:10:58] * /QUERY expects at least a nick
[16:11]  * KRF tries
[16:11] <evilshadeslayer> Sput: uh.. what if i want to close a query? i used /query to close a query
[16:11] <ScottK> However crashing if it's missing is excessive grumpiness about it.
[16:12] <Sput> it's not crashing here.
[16:12] <Sput> and I don't think we ever supported closing a query using that
[16:12] <KRF> eh, crashing the client also closes  the query, so its working, right?
[16:12] <evilshadeslayer> Sput: i didnt know.. i used irssi before and closed queries with /query :P
[16:12] <evilshadeslayer> KRF: lol
[16:12] <Sput> Date:   Thu Apr 22 20:56:22 2010 +0200
[16:12] <Sput>     check empty args for cmds join+query, fixes #831
[16:13] <Sput> not in 0.6.1 yet, will be in 0.6.2
[16:13] <KRF> i dont care. too lazy for using the command line
[16:14] <Sput> the logical shortcut would be ctrl+w
[16:14] <Sput> maybe I'll implement that at some point :P
[16:14] <evilshadeslayer> apachelogger: http://pastebin.com/6uggXRMq
[16:21] <jefferai> Sput: it's crashing here, current git
[16:21] <jefferai> *just* updated it
[16:21] <jefferai> in an attempt to solve this problem
[16:21] <Sput> when doing /query?
[16:21] <jefferai> dunno, I haven't done it
[16:21] <Sput> so what is crashing?
[16:21] <jefferai> evilshadeslayer: try again
[16:22] <evilshadeslayer> jefferai: you want me to crash the core?
[16:22] <jefferai> evilshadeslayer: yeah, give it a try
[16:23] <shadeslayer_> what fun :P
[16:23] <shadeslayer_> its gone isnt it :P
[16:23] <Sput> when doing /query or what?
[16:23] <Guest13035> Sput: just /query
[16:24] <Sput> but with an uptodate core, that can't happen
[16:25] <jefferai> Sput: there you go
[16:25] <jefferai> current git
[16:25] <jefferai> same backtrace I pasted before
[16:25] <jefferai> um, it does
[16:25]  * evilshadeslayer is all evil today :D
[16:26] <evilshadeslayer> KRF: sorry :P
[16:26] <jefferai> Sput: b1d9c3ea56467245c910ac1de1252c2a91c234f0
[16:26] <Sput> that's the core version?
[16:26] <evilshadeslayer> oh also,my networks get disconnected
[16:26] <KRF> it worked!
[16:28] <apachelogger> I am so magic
[16:28] <Sput> wtf, I can see that it's fixed in the code, and I also can't reproduce
[16:29] <evilshadeslayer> apachelogger: any idea about the rbot backtrace?
[16:29] <apachelogger> evilshadeslayer: supposedly you need ruby-gettext or whatever the package is called
[16:30] <evilshadeslayer> libgettext-ruby1.8 << ?
[16:30] <evilshadeslayer> have it already
[16:31] <CIA-33> [u1-client-lucid-kwallet] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100710153146-4jy2x7i6o9q8yt52 * debian/ (changelog patches/01syncd-kwallet.patch) Make patch use kcheckrunning instead of env var KDE_FULL_SESSION, latter will not work for ubuntuone-kde, because the syncdaemon is launched via its service, hence it will not have a proper KDE envrionment.
[16:32] <CIA-33> [u1-client-lucid-kwallet] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100710153214-6r3h48pjljwb3sql * debian/changelog releasing version 1.2.1-0ubuntu3+kwallet2
[16:32] <evilshadeslayer> apachelogger: still doesnt fix the issue
[16:32] <apachelogger> evilshadeslayer: are you trying to use git?
[16:32] <evilshadeslayer> nope
[16:33] <apachelogger> that is the fault then :P
[16:33] <evilshadeslayer> from maverick packages
[16:33] <evilshadeslayer> 0_o
[16:33] <apachelogger> ok
[16:33] <apachelogger> that is even more fault
[16:33] <evilshadeslayer> apachelogger: use git then?
[16:33] <apachelogger> cant get any wronger than using ruby packages from debian
[16:34] <evilshadeslayer> :P
[16:34] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: pingy
[16:35] <CIA-33> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100710153518-uy0xkqmbzp9f86ei * syncd-kwallet.patch stinky old patch be gone!
[16:35] <CIA-33> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100710153541-d47znck2q9pea5hp * src/statusnotifier/Application.cpp leave parenting to the parents ;)
[16:46] <evilshadeslayer> :o
[16:47] <evilshadeslayer> ^^ evilbot is here ... muwhahahahah :D
[16:47] <evilshadeslayer> evilbot: hi
[16:47] <evilbot> good evening, evilshadeslayer :)
[16:49]  * apachelogger broke his u1 syncd \\o/
[16:49] <apachelogger> Error: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply
[16:49] <apachelogger> Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken
[16:52]  * apachelogger thinks that something broke in the daemon's dbus interface
[16:52] <apachelogger> doesnt wanna terminate there :/
[16:53] <apachelogger> then again
[16:53] <apachelogger> Traceback (most recent call last):
[16:53] <apachelogger>   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/ubuntuone/syncdaemon/main.py", line 327, in get_access_token
[16:53] <apachelogger>     wallet = KWallet.Wallet.openWallet(KWallet.Wallet.LocalWallet(), 0, KWallet.Wallet.Synchronous)
[16:53] <apachelogger> might well be that something is off there
[16:56] <Mamarok> oh crap, the rain stopped and it's not cooler :(
[17:08] <apachelogger> Mamarok: you at least had some rain :)
[17:08] <Mamarok> apachelogger: far too little, it already vaporated and adds to the ambient humidity
[17:08] <Mamarok> evaporated*
[17:08] <apachelogger> oh
[17:08] <apachelogger> :/
[17:09] <Mamarok> but it's still dark outside, and apprently now it gets windy, nice :)
[17:20] <apachelogger> man
[17:20]  * apachelogger doesnt get it
[17:21] <apachelogger> for some reason the second access to kwally gets stuck
[17:21] <evilbot> far too little, it already vaporated and adds to the ambient humidity
[17:21] <apachelogger> blocking almost all of u1-syncd
[17:23] <apachelogger> IndentationError: unexpected indent
[17:23] <apachelogger> python is made out of love, I can feel it now
[17:45] <apachelogger> yay
[17:49] <CIA-33> [u1-client-lucid-kwallet] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100710164932-7qrczyzkpnwaqmis * debian/ (changelog patches/01syncd-kwallet.patch) Only ever use one QApp instance, otherwise someone will start crying and the daemon will be blocked.
[17:57] <jefferai> Sput: yeah, that was the core version
[18:06] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: pongy
[18:07] <CIA-33> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1148444 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/ (globals.h package.h) Fix up apidocs + document the enums
[18:07] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: do you agree that we need magic astyle script?
[18:07] <JontheEchidna> It would be quite convenient
[18:08] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: but where to put it?
[18:08] <apachelogger> ubuntu-dev-tools maybe?
[18:08] <JontheEchidna> kubuntu-dev-tools?
[18:08] <apachelogger> I was thinking about nuking that one :P
[18:08] <apachelogger> not sure if there is still useful stuff inside
[18:10] <evilshadeslayer> evilbot: part
[18:14] <apachelogger> omg
[18:14] <apachelogger> I haz segfaults!
[18:14] <apachelogger> omg
[18:19]  * apachelogger is wondering if the kde 4.5 is bugged here
[18:22] <sheytan> Hi guys
[18:22] <sheytan> "Featured Apps" would be thoes that are not in kubuntu, right?
[18:22] <sheytan> i mean not out of the box
[18:23] <evilshadeslayer> sheytan: probably
[18:23] <sheytan> shadeslayer ok :D
[18:23] <evilshadeslayer> sheytan: you could do : Installed Apps and Featured APps
[18:23] <CIA-33> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100710172339-vwj8upcfcl23flcf * src/statusnotifier/ (CMakeLists.txt StatusNotifier.cpp StatusNotifier.h) Add Configureation and Restart menu entries
[18:24] <sheytan> shadeslayer no,no. I've got space only for three of them. One will be Digikam. It's soo cool but it's not in Kubuntu :(
[18:24] <evilshadeslayer> and under Installed apps add something like,These are the apps that come with a default install with Kubuntu
[18:24] <evilshadeslayer> sheytan: whatcha making?
[18:26] <sheytan> the website ;D
[18:26] <evilshadeslayer> sheytan: oh kewl
[18:27] <CIA-33> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100710172711-fu7kg582ktbz8n0d * src/statusnotifier/StatusNotifier.cpp shortcut conflicts--
[18:27] <sheytan> i'm still waiting for ofir, but he wasnt here from 3day or so :D
[18:29] <evilshadeslayer> yeah..
[18:29] <evilshadeslayer> sheytan: he gave you his gmail address
[18:29] <sheytan> i wrote one
[18:29] <sheytan> today too
[18:29] <sheytan> but no answer
[18:30] <CIA-33> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1148452 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/ (backend.cpp backend.h) Doc updates
[18:46] <lex79> shadeslayer: did you upgrade?
[18:46] <shadeslayer> hmm?
[18:46] <shadeslayer> from ninja?
[18:46] <CIA-33> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100710174616-g5p2ck1rfyjq5gg2 * src/statusnotifier/StatusNotifier.cpp periods++
[18:46] <lex79> yes
[18:46] <shadeslayer> lex79: nope .. your Qt upload already is heavy on my connection :P
[18:47] <lex79> ok
[18:47] <shadeslayer> lex79: i can,but itll take time
[18:47] <shadeslayer> probably 3 hours...
[18:47] <lex79> oh ok
[18:48] <CIA-33> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100710174754-nco1seenvhvgmsy6 * src/libs/ (SyncDaemon.cpp SyncDaemon.h) slot restart -> restartDaemon
[18:48] <CIA-33> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100710174804-7oir7xtyhgyfltxk * src/kcmodule/Module.cpp formatting++
[18:53] <amichair> apachelogger (JontheEchidna): aiui, the mutex is synchronizing the call to setType and the QDebug constructor, but doesn't cover writing to the stream (or the value of type when it's used)
[18:54] <amichair> if the stream itself is not thread-safe, then the problem still exists
[19:24] <apachelogger> amichair: as long as stream() is locked there is not QDebug instance to stream onto
[19:26] <apachelogger> i.e. we are implicitly locking the iodevice by locking stream() 
[19:29] <Roran> lex79: kdegames still needs to be fixed with build dep 4.4.92 :P
[19:29] <amichair> apachelogger: not sure I follow... the lock is released when the locker goes out of scope, which is when the stream() method returns (but before it is used by the caller)
[19:29] <lex79> uhm?
[19:29] <lex79> what means?
[19:30] <amichair> (I mean before the returned instance is used by the caller)
[19:31] <apachelogger> thread a does aptDebug() << "foo"; thread b does aptDebug() << "bar";
[19:31] <apachelogger> assuming a gets there faster it will enter stream()
[19:31] <lex79> evilnhandler: well fix your mess please if you can
[19:31] <apachelogger> now the mutex will be locked
[19:32] <lex79> JontheEchidna: around?
[19:32] <apachelogger> if b gets there the mutex is still locked
[19:32] <evilshadeslayer> lex79: ok
[19:36]  * lex79 wants explain our qtwebkit mess to apachelogger
[19:37]  * evilshadeslayer wonders if someone can upload new ruby bot
[19:37] <sheytan> evilshadeslayer would you like to see the new child? :D
[19:37] <evilshadeslayer> sheytan: yeah sure
[19:37] <sheytan> evilshadeslayer http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/5982/test4oi.jpg
[19:37] <sheytan> but, it's a mistery. Don't show it to other users here :D:D
[19:38] <evilshadeslayer> sweet
[19:38] <Quintasan> \o
[19:38] <evilshadeslayer> :)
[19:38] <sheytan> thanks ;D
[19:38] <lex79> apachelogger: got a minute?
[19:39] <lex79> he left :(
[19:39] <evilshadeslayer> JontheEchidna: oh oh .. kernel upgrade
[19:39] <evilshadeslayer> lets see how muon handles it
[19:39] <evilshadeslayer> since nvidia module needs building as well
[19:41] <evilshadeslayer> sheytan: i currently like the staging sites implementation of the top bar
[19:41] <evilshadeslayer> nav bar as you may call it
[19:44] <sheytan> evilshadeslayer well, it's nothing official yet. I've done it, couse i personally think it's better ;)
[19:45] <sheytan> but everyone has a personal taste. I can't make everyone happy :D
[19:53] <Quintasan> yeah!
[19:53] <Quintasan> got rules for Qt
[19:53] <Quintasan> sheytan: let's kick the beat!
[19:54] <sheytan> Quintasan don't know what you mean :D
[20:02] <Quintasan> oh god
[20:02] <Quintasan> meant for evilshadeslayer 
[20:02] <Quintasan> :D
[20:02] <evilshadeslayer> Quintasan: kool
[20:02] <evilshadeslayer> Quintasan: from where?
[20:02] <Quintasan> Kool
[20:02] <evilshadeslayer> Quintasan: want my bot in the channel>
[20:03] <Quintasan> make it connect there?
[20:05] <Quintasan> anyone interested in vim for android?
[20:10]  * apachelogger has a bit of wacky intarwebs today
[20:10] <apachelogger> lex79: yus?
[20:11] <lex79> apachelogger: we should packaging qtwebkit from sources that come from here http://trac.webkit.org/wiki/QtWebKitWeeklyBuilds
[20:11] <lex79> and not from Qt 4.7 source
[20:11] <lex79> like Debian did -> http://packages.qa.debian.org/q/qtwebkit.html
[20:11] <lex79> but the name of our source package is a bit mess
[20:12] <lex79> as usually  :D
[20:12] <lex79> name of source package -> I mean version number
[20:12] <lex79> since our version is > than 2.0 (real version of qtwebkit)
[20:13] <lex79> so now it should be
[20:13] <lex79> 4:4.7.0really2.0~week27
[20:14] <lex79> another solution is sync the Debian package, but we have to rebuild a ton of packages
[20:14] <lex79> this happens because we have rush btw :)
[20:16] <apachelogger> where is the rush coming from? :P
[20:16] <apachelogger> lex79: we cannot sync from debian
[20:16] <lex79> dunno
[20:16] <apachelogger> or maybe we can, but we should not
[20:16] <apachelogger> we populated 4:?
[20:16] <apachelogger> if so, then we cannot just start populating 0:2.0*
[20:16] <lex79> eh?
[20:17] <apachelogger> lex79: do we have that 4:4.7.0 qtwebkit package alrady in the archives?
[20:17] <apachelogger> !info libqtwebkit4 maverick
[20:17] <lex79> 4:4.7.0~beta1+git20100706-0ubuntu1
[20:17] <apachelogger> ubottu: you are a troubled robot :)
[20:17] <lex79> ^ libqt4-webkit
[20:18] <apachelogger> lex79: so evne our names differ from debian :P
[20:18] <apachelogger> well
[20:18] <lex79> exactly
[20:18] <apachelogger> then we can sync \o/
[20:18] <lex79> we have to rebuild a ton of packages
[20:18] <apachelogger> as long as debian does never ever change to libqt4-webkit
[20:18] <rbelem> apachelogger, lex79, the soname for qtwebkit will remain the same
[20:19] <apachelogger> rbelem: that does not help with package versions unfortunately
[20:19] <apachelogger> lex79: a library transition never comes easy :)
[20:19] <rbelem> but it can increase faster the the soname version of qt
[20:19] <lex79> apachelogger: why not make 4:4.7.0really2.0~week27
[20:19] <lex79> we have already did qtwebkit  transition 2 month ago
[20:19] <lex79> lol
[20:20] <lex79> another one?
[20:20] <apachelogger> fabo: do you think that you will change the binary package name to libqt4-webkit?
[20:20] <apachelogger> like ever
[20:21] <lex79> apachelogger: no, they want keep libqtwebkit4
[20:21] <lex79> no sense for libqt4-webkit
[20:21] <lex79> it doesn't come from qt source anymore
[20:21] <apachelogger> then we should just sync and transit
[20:22] <apachelogger> better get it done now than in half a year with 5 packages more that need rebuilding
[20:23] <apachelogger> otherwise I would go for 4:4.7.0~really2.0~week27
[20:23] <lex79> 4:4.7.0~really2.0~week27
[20:23] <lex79> or
[20:23] <lex79> 4:4.7.0really2.0~week27
[20:23] <lex79> ?
[20:23] <apachelogger> that is > 4.7.0
[20:23] <apachelogger> which does not appropriately reflect the state of affairs
[20:24] <rbelem> apachelogger, qt webkit 2.1 will be soname 4.8.0
[20:24] <lex79> we are discussing about the package version
[20:24] <lex79> not the soname
[20:25] <rbelem> yeah, i know but looks strange change the version to 2.*
[20:25] <apachelogger> well, if the version is 2.* then our source package will be package version 2.* ;)
[20:25] <apachelogger> or should
[20:26] <lex79> yeaah
[20:26] <apachelogger> libqwebkit* will represent soversion
[20:26] <rbelem> cool
[20:26] <rbelem> :-D
[20:26] <apachelogger> lex79: well, I would opt for import from debian
[20:27] <debfx> why not just bump the epoch so the version is 5:2.0~week26-2?
[20:28] <apachelogger> that would still pointlessly derive from debian
[20:28] <apachelogger> also an option though, I agree
[20:30] <lex79> well, monday I will go out, so if someone want care about this...if not I'm going to upload webkit with an epoch bump
[20:30] <lex79> or with "really" in the version
[20:30] <rbelem> i would vote for the really :-)
[20:31] <evilshadeslayer> hehe
[20:31] <evilshadeslayer> really makes the version confusing sometimes tho :P
[20:32] <lex79> in the past we did even worse
[20:32] <lex79> :D
[20:32] <evilshadeslayer> lex79: whut>
[20:32] <evilshadeslayer> lex79: what did we do?
[20:33] <lex79> don't remember exactly but we added "really" and "notreally" or something else in the version
[20:34] <debfx> "really" only makes sense when reverting to a prior upstream version
[20:35] <lex79> yes
[20:35] <lex79> apachelogger: so?
[20:35] <debfx> qtwebkit probably won't reach version 4.7 anytime soon, so we should bump the epoch
[20:35] <apachelogger> I still say sync0r :P
[20:35] <debfx> syncing isn't possible
[20:35] <lex79> debfx: why?
[20:37] <debfx> lex79: we can't sync a package that has a lower version than ours, can we?
[20:37] <apachelogger> debfx: the names are different
[20:38] <lex79> apachelogger: the name of the source package is the same
[20:38] <lex79> qtwebkit here
[20:38] <lex79> and qtwebkit in Debian
[20:39] <lex79> :)
[20:39] <apachelogger> hmmm
[20:39] <lex79> buahaha
[20:39] <apachelogger> talk to jr, possibly we can beat up soyuz
[20:40] <apachelogger> otherwise we should probably epoch (if fabo agrees)
[20:45] <CIA-33> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100710194544-zr2ig8iqxalvktpu * src/ (19 files in 6 dirs) testing my new fancy astyle script \o/
[20:49] <CIA-33> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100710194923-zr5p3mv69e13dlc5 * src/ (36 files in 8 dirs) namespace indention ... spec does not define whether namespaces are indented or not, so general rule of indention is supposedly to be applied
[20:59] <CIA-33> [muon] jmthomas * 1148483 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/ (DetailsTabs/DependsTab.cpp ReviewWidget.cpp) Adapt to signal name change
[21:24] <Quintasan> apachelogger: urgent ping
[21:25] <apachelogger> Quintasan: oha
[21:26] <Quintasan> apachelogger: when I compile Qt, if I want to install all files to /opt/project-neon/
[21:26] <Quintasan> in project-neon-qt.install I can put only opt/project-neon or I have to use some dirty hacks?
[21:27] <apachelogger> depends on where it gets installed and what the build system expects ^^
[21:28] <apachelogger> if it gets installed to debian/tmp/ then it all depends on how dh_install gets called (i.e. what compability level it gets built with)
[21:28] <eMyller> greetings
[21:29] <eMyller> sheytan: heya :)
[21:29] <sheytan> eMyller hi :)
[21:29] <sheytan> i'm waiting for ofirk too :D
[21:29] <eMyller> i was about to ask :P
[21:29] <eMyller> may i see what you've got so far?
[21:31] <eMyller> sheytan: talk (and a running page) is cheap. show me the code. :P
[21:31] <sheytan> I don't have to code :)
[21:31] <sheytan> I'm just a artwork dude ;D
[21:31] <sheytan> i can show you the mockup
[21:31] <eMyller> oh.
[21:31] <eMyller> would be great :)
[21:34] <Quintasan> apachelogger: I'll just try to reuse your rules :P
[21:34] <apachelogger> reusing is always an economical choice ^^
[21:35] <Quintasan> too bad I uploaded it to PPA with no install file
[21:35] <Quintasan> :/
[21:37] <eMyller> sheytan: ping me when you get the mockup up
[21:37] <sheytan> eMyller : http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/3396/test5jy.jpg
[21:37] <sheytan> already done ;D
[21:39] <eMyller> thanks; seeing
[21:40] <eMyller> damn nw connection ¬¬
[21:40] <sheytan> like it? :D
[21:41] <eMyller> sheytan: couldn't see more than 1/3 of it yet
[21:42] <sheytan> oh ;)
[21:42] <eMyller> [unstable 3g connection]
[21:42] <eMyller> am wgetting
[21:42] <eMyller> woo @ "Connection closed at byte 373122. Retrying."
[21:44] <sheytan> oh oh oh ;D
[21:46] <eMyller> sheytan: tis looks good :)
[21:46] <sheytan> eMyller thank you :)
[21:46] <eMyller> i presume that the area below the header is a wip
[21:46] <eMyller> but the general idea looks great :)
[21:47] <eMyller> sheytan: did ofirk started the code already?
[21:47] <sheytan> yes :) stagging.www.kubuntu.org
[21:47] <sheytan> http://staging.www.kubuntu.org
[21:47] <sheytan> this one ;)
[21:48] <eMyller> oh :) ty
[21:48] <sheytan> welcome :)
[21:49] <sheytan> ofir said he might show up here, but he's kinda busy
[21:50] <eMyller> k.. i've forced this weekend to be free for me (lots of work here too, though). am willing to help with the code
[21:51] <sheytan> you need to talk to him :)
[21:51] <sheytan> i only hope you like the stuff i make :D
[21:51] <sheytan> of course i might change something, and there are bugs to fix, but ofir must accept the general idea :)
[21:52] <eMyller> good
[21:52] <sheytan> i will discuss with him some behaviour things, then you can start to code all, if you'll like my ideas :D
[21:53] <Quintasan> sheytan: I think you should replace the Quassel icon with Konversation one
[21:53] <eMyller> great. i work directly with ux/js; lemme know if i can join the discussion
[21:53] <eMyller> Quintasan: will quassel be replaced by konversation?
[21:54] <sheytan> if it will then we change it ;)
[21:54] <sheytan> but now i'm working on a general layout
[21:54] <sheytan> icons come later :)
[21:56] <eMyller> sheytan: is that page an outdated version compared to your mockup?
[21:57] <sheytan> eMyller yes, i think ofir created it. :)
[21:57] <eMyller> mk
[22:06] <sheytan> eMyller
[22:06] <sheytan> i have to go :)
[22:06] <eMyller> :\
[22:06] <eMyller> ok, see you then
[22:06] <sheytan> In case you'll see ofir here, show him that mockuup please :)
[22:06] <sheytan> will be tomorrow the whole day :D
[22:06] <eMyller> sheytan: sure.
[22:07] <sheytan> so goddnight all :)
[22:07] <eMyller> i'll start some code for fun
[22:07] <eMyller> byes ;)
[22:07] <sheytan> bye :)
[22:09] <Quintasan> grrr
[22:12] <CIA-33> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100710211137-2ufftpg0p3ko5w8v * data/ (26 files) more icons + install to hicolor = keep fingers cross that this does not conflict stuff, oh well, how little I care about it...
[22:12] <Quintasan> apachelogger: override_dh_auto_install: $(MAKE) install INSTALL_ROOT=$(CURDIR)/debian/tmp/
[22:12] <CIA-33> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100710211240-o6ii62g7qd0fvral * src/statusnotifier/ (Application.h StatusNotifier.cpp StatusNotifier.h) fix some icon names and streamline tooltip code
[22:13] <apachelogger> Quintasan: ?
[22:13]  * apachelogger is wondering why the stupid tooltips do not show the proper icon -.-
[22:14] <apachelogger> aha!
[22:14] <apachelogger> the daemon is also still dying
[22:14] <apachelogger> python--
[22:15] <apachelogger> I have spent less time prototyping the rest api of u1 in cpp than on not making python fall over weirdness in kwallet
[22:19] <Quintasan> apachelogger: that line, it makes crap install to debian/tmp?
[22:19] <evilshadeslayer> Quintasan: whatcha doing>
[22:19] <apachelogger> yes, no, now, really
[22:19] <apachelogger> override_dh_auto_install:
[22:20] <apachelogger> \t$(MAKE) install INSTALL_ROOT=$(CURDIR)/debian/tmp
[22:20] <apachelogger> will
[22:20] <evilshadeslayer> i finally learnt how to report bugs to debian.... 
[22:20] <evilshadeslayer> after a complete hour :P
[22:20] <apachelogger> only? :O
[22:20] <apachelogger> not that bad
[22:20] <apachelogger> next you will learn how they will close it ^^
[22:20] <evilshadeslayer> apachelogger: what... 1 hour of my life .. gone... on reporting a bug :P
[22:21] <apachelogger> dude
[22:21] <evilshadeslayer> bug 604102 btw ;)
[22:21] <Quintasan> evilshadeslayer: hacking this stupid rules file
[22:21] <apachelogger> I rather spend an hour of my life on how to report a bug than work day after day with one giganitc bug
[22:21] <apachelogger> python--
[22:21] <evilshadeslayer> Quintasan: why?
[22:21] <evilshadeslayer> wait wrong question
[22:21] <apachelogger> try how?
[22:21] <apachelogger> :P
[22:22] <evilshadeslayer> nah
[22:22]  * evilshadeslayer is still formulating the right question
[22:22] <evilshadeslayer> Quintasan: the question remains... why :P
[22:22] <apachelogger> / FIXME
[22:22] <apachelogger> / static? what is this? where does this belong? omg!
[22:22] <apachelogger> <3 that comment
[22:23] <evilshadeslayer> hahaha
[22:23] <apachelogger> kubotu: topic add apachelogger on important ubuntuone-kde code: "static? what is this? where does this belong? omg!"
[22:24] <amichair> apachelogger: sorry for interruptions... thread A calls stream(), gets lock, sets type, constructs QDebug, releases lock. Thread B does the same. Now threads A and B both see the type set by B, but more importantly, they call the << method concurrently on the returned object, which if not itself thread safe, is a problem.
[22:26] <apachelogger> amichair: good point
[22:26] <apachelogger> *shrug*
[22:35] <apachelogger> amichair: indeed there is something bogus, OTOH we only support the msg type anyway, so...
[22:36] <amichair> apachelogger: in that case, the locker can be moved to protect FileDebugStream::writeData instead, which will synchronize the actual output
[22:37] <amichair> (unless QIODevice has other unsafe methods which need protection as well - I don't really know it)
[22:37] <Quintasan> evilshadeslayer: because, I don't know where it is installing files, and we want them in /opt/project-neon :P
[22:38] <evilshadeslayer> Quintasan: cant you use install files for that?
[22:40] <evilshadeslayer> ( since all the stuff goes to debian/tmp
[22:40] <CIA-33> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100710214018-rb7wnnjv289ar1eg * src/ (4 files in 2 dirs) love++
[22:47] <evilshadeslayer> lex79: kdegames for lucid is up as well
[22:48] <evilshadeslayer> now onto runtime
[22:48] <evilshadeslayer> kdepim runtime
[22:50] <evilshadeslayer> apachelogger: since kdepim is beta 1,ive versioned it 4.4.85,no issues right?
[22:50] <apachelogger> ehm
[22:50] <apachelogger> what is upstream's version?
[22:51] <evilshadeslayer> it doesnt have one -.-
[22:51] <evilshadeslayer> just kdepim-runtime-beta-1
[22:52] <apachelogger> in the source I mean
[22:54] <evilshadeslayer> cant find a version there too
[22:54] <evilshadeslayer> the extracted dir is kdepim-runtime-4.5-beta1/
[22:54] <apachelogger> brrrrr
[22:54] <apachelogger> #define KDEPIM_VERSION "4.5 beta1"
[22:54] <apachelogger> all hail the unified versioniong scheme
[22:54] <evilshadeslayer> :)
[22:54] <apachelogger> evilshadeslayer: 4.5~beta1
[22:55] <evilshadeslayer> really?
[22:55] <apachelogger> aye
[22:55] <evilshadeslayer> k
[22:55] <apachelogger> 4.5 > 4.5~rcN > 4.5~betaN > 4.5~alphaN
[22:55] <apachelogger> generally N > N~ for that matter
[22:56] <evilshadeslayer> 4:4.5~beta1-0ubuntu1 <<
[22:56] <apachelogger> aye
[22:58] <evilshadeslayer> will have to rename sources tarball as well :?
[23:07] <apachelogger> evilshadeslayer: sure, otherwise its not gonna worky worky
[23:07]  * evilshadeslayer shoots off into space
[23:07] <apachelogger> Error! Your kernel headers for kernel 2.6.32-16-generic cannot be found at
[23:07] <apachelogger> /lib/modules/2.6.32-16-generic/build or /lib/modules/2.6.32-16-generic/source.
[23:07] <apachelogger> :(
[23:08] <apachelogger> this dkms is quite the evil monster
[23:08] <apachelogger> Oo
[23:09] <apachelogger> that kernel is super old
[23:09]  * apachelogger goes to cry over all that junk
[23:09]  * evilshadeslayer uses .35
[23:10] <apachelogger> hm
[23:10] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: maybe I did not upgrade but muon's sorting still is off
[23:10] <evilshadeslayer> i haz issues with stable stuff
[23:10] <apachelogger> http://imagebin.ca/view/RL3zzTxO.html
[23:11] <evilshadeslayer> ok kdepim runtime going to ninjas
[23:11] <evilshadeslayer> lex79: ^^ 
[23:12] <evilshadeslayer> we can copy it over to the publik ppa afterwards
[23:12] <evilshadeslayer> now onto pim beastie
[23:12] <apachelogger> how usable is pim?
[23:13] <evilshadeslayer> apachelogger: well.. the pim devs say its not usable
[23:13] <apachelogger> cause mabybe we should ship that off to the experimental ppa until 4.5 is out
[23:13] <evilshadeslayer> and they have postponed beta 2
[23:13] <evilshadeslayer> apachelogger: thats the plan
[23:13] <apachelogger> ok
[23:13] <apachelogger> yay
[23:14]  * apachelogger cannot use his vms without reboot
[23:14] <apachelogger> \o/
[23:14] <apachelogger> that totally reminds me on windows
[23:14] <apachelogger> there you cannot use shiz without reboot either
[23:20] <evilshadeslayer> any idea how i am supposed to sync my gmail kontacts with Akonadi?
[23:20] <apachelogger> using the gcal resource I suppose
[23:21]  * evilshadeslayer has no such thing
[23:21] <evilshadeslayer> do i need a package?
[23:22] <evilshadeslayer> apachelogger: ^^
[23:22] <evilshadeslayer> like libgcal0
[23:22] <apachelogger> like akonadi-resource-gcal or something
[23:23] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: is something entered into the search bar at the time of that screenshot?
[23:23] <apachelogger> linux-image-2.6.32
[23:23] <apachelogger> or 2.6.32 cant remember ^^
[23:23] <JontheEchidna> ah, yeah. It's sorting by relevance as determined by xapian
[23:24] <JontheEchidna> not alphabetical
[23:24] <evilshadeslayer> akonadi-kde-resource-googledata
[23:25] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: no, the sorting bar says it sorts alphabetically :P
[23:26] <evilshadeslayer> whats the point of akonadi tho?
[23:26] <evilshadeslayer> i mean.. what does it do?? 0_o
[23:30] <apachelogger> eat data
[23:30] <lex79> evilshadeslayer: ok thanks
[23:30] <lex79> someone want test upgrade from ninja ppa?
[23:30] <evilshadeslayer> apachelogger: heh
[23:30] <lex79> lucid or karmic
[23:31] <evilshadeslayer> lex79: karmic?
[23:31] <lex79> omg
[23:31] <lex79> too hot here :P
[23:31] <lex79> maverick or lucid
[23:31] <evilshadeslayer> lex79: ill upgrade...
[23:31] <apachelogger> but I wanted to test karmic :(
[23:32] <evilshadeslayer> to maverick
[23:32]  * apachelogger already microblagd that we will publish for karmic too
[23:32] <apachelogger> :/
[23:32]  * apachelogger was too quick
[23:32] <apachelogger> :S
[23:32] <evilshadeslayer> apachelogger: :S
[23:32] <apachelogger> evilshadeslayer surely will backport to karmic too
[23:33]  * evilshadeslayer fears wrath of kdepim runtime mingled with kdepim of 4.4.90
[23:33] <lex79> lol
[23:33] <evilshadeslayer> apachelogger: wth :P
[23:33] <evilshadeslayer> i want to watch star wars ..... and ive been wanting that since the past weel
[23:33] <evilshadeslayer> *week
[23:33] <evilshadeslayer> :P
[23:34] <evilshadeslayer> lex79: cant upgrade because i uploaded kdepim runtime beta
[23:34] <apachelogger> no pythons in star wreck - not worth watching
[23:34] <evilshadeslayer> now everyone wait till kdepim is uploaded :P
[23:34] <lex79> delete it from the ppa
[23:35] <evilshadeslayer> lex79: its still building...
[23:35] <evilshadeslayer> lex79: really... why???
[23:35] <evilshadeslayer> :'(
[23:35] <evilshadeslayer> lex79: itll take about 40-50 mins more
[23:35] <lex79> well if you don't want upgrade because there is that package
[23:36] <lex79> delete it
[23:36] <evilshadeslayer> lol... :P
[23:36] <evilshadeslayer> lex79: ill upgrade.. lets see what happens
[23:36] <apachelogger> one dot you bun too dot com
[23:37] <evilshadeslayer> heh
[23:37] <NCommander> hey all
[23:37] <NCommander> What's the current network manage rbinary? (I removed it from the systray and can't seem to readd it)
[23:37] <lex79> NCommander: :-*
[23:37] <evilshadeslayer> NCommander: right click sys tray > Settings
[23:37] <NCommander> evilshadeslayer: ah
[23:37] <evilshadeslayer> ;)
[23:37] <apachelogger> oh dear oh dear
[23:38] <apachelogger> if the gnome u1 config was any more responsive one would have to be afraid of it getting stuck
[23:39] <evilshadeslayer> lex79: updating sources
[23:39] <lex79> kk
[23:40] <evilshadeslayer> ugh.. akonadi eating my bandwidth
[23:40] <evilshadeslayer> apachelogger: lol http://imagebin.ca/view/o6wY-tKj.html
[23:40] <evilshadeslayer> see the 200 pc
[23:41] <evilshadeslayer> lawl...
[23:41] <apachelogger> ...I got sold but I am not a soldier...
[23:41] <apachelogger> http://imagebin.ca/view/1S36yD3.html
[23:42] <apachelogger> oh dear oh dear
[23:42] <evilshadeslayer> -.-
[23:42] <apachelogger> evilshadeslayer: oh, you are also using sillyFont(tm) :P
[23:42] <evilshadeslayer> apachelogger: hehe
[23:43]  * evilshadeslayer likes sillyFont (tm)
[23:43] <evilshadeslayer> its fun to see wikipedia in sillyFont
[23:44] <apachelogger> can someone plz share stuff on the you bun too one with me?
[23:44] <evilshadeslayer>   The requested URL returned error: 401 << hmm
[23:44] <evilshadeslayer> apachelogger: like?
[23:44]  * evilshadeslayer doesnt understand
[23:44] <apachelogger> pornviewer
[23:44] <evilshadeslayer> heh
[23:44] <evilshadeslayer> lex79: W: Failed to fetch https://private-ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ninjas/ppa/ubuntu/dists/maverick/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz  The requested URL returned error: 401 :P
[23:45] <evilshadeslayer> apachelogger: one sec
[23:45] <evilshadeslayer> apachelogger: do you want the published url stuff?
[23:45] <apachelogger> no
[23:45] <apachelogger> a shared folder
[23:45] <evilshadeslayer> right
[23:47] <evilshadeslayer> apachelogger: mail sent
[23:48] <apachelogger> evilshadeslayer: cheers
[23:48] <evilshadeslayer> ;)
[23:48]  * apachelogger overloaded his syncdaemon again ^^
[23:49] <apachelogger> hm
[23:49] <apachelogger> this nautilus plugin is rather silly at times
[23:51] <evilshadeslayer> lex79: upgrading.. this will take time :P
[23:52] <evilshadeslayer> about an hour and a half
[23:52] <evilshadeslayer> also... i cant seem to import the key now