[01:33] <Dewgong> Hey, I can't get my sound working on a fresh install. It looks like the system recognized my sound card and the driver (snd-hda-intel) is installed. I did have to add my username to audio in /etc/group, but after restarting, still no luck. alsamixer levels are all unmuted and 100%. Any ideas?
[01:41] <new2ubuntu> Hello, all.
[01:41] <new2ubuntu> I have just installed ubuntu 10.04 desktop edition on an external hp hard drive (320g)
[01:41] <new2ubuntu> Ubuntu boots just fine right alongside windows 7
[01:41] <new2ubuntu> But I cannot connect to the Internet.  I know my wireless router is set up just fine, but ubuntu cannot connect to it
[01:41] <phillw> hi Dewgong as sound issues are not too easy to track, I'd suggest heading over to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449 that has things to check & is a live thread for you to ask on.
[01:41] <new2ubuntu> Can anyone help me?
[01:44] <new2ubuntu> Anypne?
[01:44] <pedro3005> new2ubuntu, what are you using to connect?
[01:44] <phillw> hiyas new2ubuntu, have  a look over at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[01:45] <new2ubuntu> pedro, I don't understand your question
[01:45] <new2ubuntu> It's an internal wireless card
[01:45] <phillw> cheers pedro3005, I'm busy on wiki atm
[01:45] <pedro3005> new2ubuntu, laptop?
[01:45] <new2ubuntu> Yes, it is a Toshiba satellite l655sd
[01:46] <new2ubuntu> *l655d
[01:46] <pedro3005> supposed to work, I think
[01:47] <pedro3005> new2ubuntu, have you checked out System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers?
[01:47] <new2ubuntu> Checking it out now
[01:48] <new2ubuntu> Says "downlaoding packaging indexes failed, please check your network status...
[01:48] <new2ubuntu> "
[01:48] <new2ubuntu> And then "no propprietary drivers are in use on this system"
[01:49] <pedro3005> oh
[01:49] <pedro3005> right
[01:49] <pedro3005> no internet
[01:49] <pedro3005> new2ubuntu, is there anyway you could temporarily gain internet access so you can download the drivers?
[01:50] <new2ubuntu> Yes, I can plug directly into the router
[01:50] <new2ubuntu> Give me a sec
[01:50] <pedro3005> Please try that
[01:51] <new2ubuntu> I have plugged an ethernet cable into the side of my laptop...now what?
[01:52] <pedro3005> now it should connect
[01:53] <pedro3005> try opening the network manager, fiddle around with it etc.
[01:53] <new2ubuntu> Nope, firefox says "can't find the server at www.google.com"
[01:54] <pedro3005> new2ubuntu, nothing yet?
[01:54] <new2ubuntu> I am not able to connect to the internet with the ethernet cable either!
[01:54] <new2ubuntu> All I did was plug in thet cable, I didn't do anything else....
[01:54] <new2ubuntu> What should i do?
[01:55] <pedro3005> new2ubuntu, perhaps you could try rebooting ubuntu
[01:55] <pedro3005> leaving the cable on
[01:55] <new2ubuntu> I'll try that
[01:55] <_CommandeR_> Guys & Girls, I am getting soon an SSD and wondering do i need to tweak Ubuntu to make the drive last longer or to have a better performance etc. ?
[01:57] <new2ubuntu> Same story...firefox cannot find the server
[01:58] <pedro3005> new2ubuntu, hm.. and a windows PC works just fine with the same router, correct?
[01:59] <new2ubuntu> yes, both wireless and wired
[01:59] <pedro3005> ok
[01:59] <pedro3005> what is the output of ifconfig?
[02:00] <new2ubuntu> Wow, all kinds of stuff
[02:00] <new2ubuntu> What are you looking for in particular?
[02:01] <pedro3005> !paste | new2ubuntu
[02:01] <ubot2> new2ubuntu: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[02:01] <new2ubuntu> But I cannot paste from the ubuntu console because i cannot access thet internet
[02:02] <new2ubuntu> i'm chatting to you on ANOTHER (windows xp) machine
[02:02] <pedro3005> oh, right
[02:02]  * pedro3005 keeps forgetting
[02:02] <pedro3005> new2ubuntu, uhm, ok, can you see eth0?
[02:02] <new2ubuntu> Nope, I've got lo and wlan0
[02:02] <pedro3005> weird
[02:03] <pedro3005> the ethernet cable is on?
[02:03] <holstein> are you sure you got your password typed in correctly?
[02:03]  * new2ubuntu ashamed
[02:03] <holstein> your wifi password?
[02:03] <new2ubuntu> there isn't one
[02:03] <holstein> AH
[02:03] <new2ubuntu> i never set up one
[02:03] <new2ubuntu> a password, that is
[02:04] <pedro3005> new2ubuntu, are you sure the ethernet cable is well plugged?
[02:04] <new2ubuntu> yes
[02:04] <pedro3005> new2ubuntu, can you find your ethernet card on lspci?
[02:04] <new2ubuntu> I assume thats a command, let me run in
[02:04] <new2ubuntu> *it
[02:05] <pedro3005> it is
[02:05] <pedro3005> there should be something like
[02:05] <pedro3005> 01:01.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
[02:05] <new2ubuntu> Yeah, something like that
[02:05] <new2ubuntu> netwk ctller: realtek semiconductor co, ltd device 8172......
[02:06] <pedro3005> new2ubuntu, this machine also has windows on it?
[02:07] <holstein> is this a WUBI?
[02:07] <new2ubuntu> yes, windows 7
[02:07] <new2ubuntu> i installed it from windows, so yes, I believe so
[02:07] <holstein> you might want to try something
[02:07] <new2ubuntu> while inside windows, i put in the cd and installed it to my hard drive
[02:07] <new2ubuntu> is that what you mean"
[02:07] <holstein> TOTALLY power the machine off
[02:07] <holstein> i had a wubi
[02:07] <holstein> on a desktop box
[02:07]  * seidos has never used wubi
[02:07] <seidos> I'm leery of it though
[02:07] <holstein> and the LAN got killed somehow
[02:08] <holstein> and to get it back
[02:08] <holstein> i would have to unplug the power
[02:08] <new2ubuntu> what do you mean the lan got killed?
[02:08] <holstein> you could test this by botting into windows right now though
[02:08] <new2ubuntu> you couldnt connect with an ethernet table?
[02:08] <holstein> it was not available after running ubuntu
[02:08] <pedro3005> new2ubuntu, what is your ubuntu version?
[02:08] <holstein> in the WUBI
[02:08] <new2ubuntu> 10.04 is the vers i downlaoded
[02:08] <holstein> until i would unplug the power
[02:09] <pedro3005> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Realtek%208172
[02:09] <holstein> i found a bug report for it
[02:09] <pedro3005> should be working
[02:10] <new2ubuntu> so what does this mean
[02:10] <new2ubuntu> lucid i assume is 10.04 edition?
[02:10] <new2ubuntu> like 'longhorn' was 'vista
[02:10] <new2ubuntu> (just so i know what were talking about)
[02:11] <pedro3005> yeah
[02:12] <new2ubuntu> so what you're saying is that it SHOULD be working
[02:12] <new2ubuntu> But it's not
[02:12] <new2ubuntu> so what if i download this driver
[02:12] <new2ubuntu> can i/should i install it?
[02:12] <new2ubuntu> OR
[02:13] <new2ubuntu> should i uninstall the wuby and install from the cd to my external, w/o wubi?
[02:13] <pedro3005> Getting rid of wubi would be a good idea
[02:13] <new2ubuntu> ok
[02:13] <new2ubuntu> i'll boot over to windows and do that
[02:15] <holstein> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/296502
[02:15] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 296502 in ubuntu "Intrepid/XP Router connection lost on shutdown (heat: 5)" [Undecided,Incomplete]
[02:15] <holstein> that was a long time ago :)
[02:16] <new2ubuntu> ubuntu is uninstalled (gotta love the speed of ubuntu
[02:16] <new2ubuntu> so now i boot from the cd?
[02:17] <holstein> new2ubuntu: i would boot from CD
[02:17] <holstein> and troubleshoot a bit
[02:17] <holstein> from the live CD
[02:17] <holstein> run that command that pedro3005 mentioned
[02:18] <holstein> lspci
[02:18] <holstein> see what devices are listed
[02:18] <holstein> try and get the wired internet working
[02:18] <holstein> at least
[02:18] <holstein> then wireless
[02:18] <new2ubuntu> ok, thanks, you guys
[02:18] <new2ubuntu> installing from the cd will probably take 6 years : )
[02:18] <holstein> then, you can do more research if needed
[02:18] <new2ubuntu> i'll let you know if i have any more trouble
[02:19] <holstein> before installing
[02:19] <holstein> nah
[02:19] <holstein> its pretty fast
[02:19] <new2ubuntu> ive installed ubuntu only once before on a real wheezer of a machine, and it literally took a VERY LONG TIME
[02:19] <new2ubuntu> Anyway
[02:19] <new2ubuntu> thanks again
[02:20] <holstein> good luck :)
[02:21] <new2ubuntu> Okay, so im on step 4, Prepare Disk Space
[02:21] <holstein> DUDE
[02:21] <new2ubuntu> how to i tell it to install to my external?
[02:21] <holstein> try it live first
[02:22] <holstein> i say
[02:22] <holstein> and test your devices
[02:22] <new2ubuntu> okay, okay, trying : )
[02:22] <holstein> thats just my professional opinion
[02:22] <holstein> ;)
[02:22] <new2ubuntu> yeah, i know
[02:22] <new2ubuntu> as a n00b, i cant argue
[02:22] <holstein> if you install to an exteral drive
[02:22] <holstein> im pretty sure
[02:22] <holstein> you have to have that drive present at boot
[02:23] <holstein> or the machine will complain
[02:23] <holstein> and not boot windows or ubuntu
[02:23] <holstein> probably a work around though
[02:23] <new2ubuntu> thats the idea...once im sure i can install it ok and everything works, i'll partition my computers internal drive and install there
[02:23] <holstein> but right out of the box
[02:23] <holstein> you'll have that going on
[02:24] <holstein> cool
[02:24] <holstein> yeah, internal will *just work*
[02:25] <new2ubuntu> :'( no luck connecting wireless...even trying
[02:25] <holstein> what about wired?
[02:26] <holstein> do you see both net adapters in lspci?
[02:26]  * new2ubuntu shoots himself (for forgetting to test wired)
[02:26] <new2ubuntu> give me just a sec : )
[02:26] <holstein> lol
[02:26] <holstein> take your time
[02:26] <new2ubuntu> ok, nope, no dice
[02:26] <new2ubuntu> firefox cannot find server
[02:26] <holstein> i think this is an important step
[02:26] <holstein> hmmm
[02:26] <holstein> you might want to run lspci
[02:26] <holstein> then
[02:26] <new2ubuntu> yep, done that
[02:26] <holstein> take the lines
[02:27] <holstein> from your net adapters
[02:27] <holstein> and start google-ing
[02:27] <holstein> ubuntu 10.04 dell 2700
[02:27] <holstein> whatever
[02:27] <holstein> OR
[02:27] <new2ubuntu> net adapters?  is that the stuff that terminal spits out when i run lspci?
[02:27] <holstein> ubuntu lucid atheros whatever
[02:27] <holstein> yup
[02:27] <new2ubuntu> ok, i'll try that
[02:27] <holstein> could just be a little trick that you need to do
[02:28] <holstein> or maybe they are not supported by the kernel
[02:28] <holstein> i would try and sort that out
[02:28] <holstein> and you should be able to sort it out on the live CD
[02:28] <holstein> before installing
[02:28] <holstein> ALSO
[02:28] <holstein> sometimes i try other distro live CD's
[02:28] <holstein> like knoppix
[02:29] <holstein> or whatever
[02:29] <holstein> and sometimes i can learn from that experience
[02:29] <holstein> assuming its supported in another live disk and not ubuntu
[02:29] <holstein> which is really seldom
[02:45] <roger__> hello, just testing
[02:46] <holstein> :)
[04:08] <PabloRubianes> hello
[06:25] <stlsaint> what i miss?
[06:26] <hobgoblin> loads
[06:26] <hobgoblin> too much to mention
[06:26] <stlsaint> crap
[06:26] <hobgoblin> yea mostly :)
[06:27] <stlsaint> hehe
[06:32] <stlsaint> sucks i couldnt help out with user day :(
[06:32] <pleia2> stlsaint: next time! :)
[06:33] <hobgoblin> stlsaint: why couldn't you help?
[06:39] <stlsaint> hobgoblin: i was unsure of whether i would be working or not :(
[06:39] <hobgoblin> aah
[06:40] <hobgoblin> would have been a pain if you could have helped before they rescheduled it :)
[06:43] <stlsaint> yea
[06:43] <stlsaint> pleia2: next is not good enough!!!!! :'(
[06:44] <hobgoblin> good day mathay - long time
[06:44] <ddecator> stlsaint: schedule your own event :)
[06:44] <mathay> hello hobgoblin
[06:44] <stlsaint> ddecator: YOU just make sure i receive hospitable treatment from your bug comrades!! :D
[06:45] <ddecator> stlsaint: haha, we have a meeting on tuesday and we'll be discussing how the mentoring program is going. you're welcome to join if you want to give feedback
[06:45] <stlsaint> ddecator: AAAAAGAGAGAGAGAGGA why are all the freaking meetings on a tuesday!!! I CANT MAKE TUESDAY MEETINGS!!!!
[06:46] <stlsaint> ddecator: btw, should i have some experience in something before i go out for getting a mentor?
[06:47] <ddecator> stlsaint: haha, well if there is anything you want me to bring up, just let me know. and not really, we expect people who want mentors to be new to triage. if you are interested in a certain package, that helps, but it's not necessary
[06:48] <stlsaint> im sure there will be :|
[06:49] <ddecator> there will be what?
[06:49] <stlsaint> package
[06:51] <ddecator> ah, good! a mentor should make sure you're able triage general bugs, but having a specialization in mind allows us to match you up with someone who specializes with that package who can get you in touch with the right people and teach you how that package may be handled differently from others
[07:01] <stlsaint> ddecator: well considering im in texas and i know half the people on the mentors list are in other countries...shouldnt it come down to timezones instead of packages?
[07:03] <ddecator> stlsaint: TZ takes priority, but they try to match on interest as well
[07:04] <ddecator> er, time available rather than TZ
[07:05] <stlsaint> i hate utc
[07:05] <stlsaint> never been able to really convert times
[07:05] <ddecator> i'm starting to figure it out, mainly because i keep having to figure out what time meetings are and such
[07:09] <stlsaint> ddecator: so do i just put my name on list or....?
[07:11] <ddecator> stlsaint: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Mentors
[07:11] <stlsaint> yea that was the list i was referring to
[07:12] <ddecator> alright, then yah, you should just need to request membership on LP
[07:12] <ddecator> the admins will take care of things from there :)
[07:13] <ddecator> wow, quite a few more mentors since i last looked
[07:13] <stlsaint> so no name on list just request on for membership on lp?
[07:15] <ddecator> yup, the admins keep the wiki updated, so they'll add you after you get assigned to someone
[07:17] <stlsaint> ddecator: this one: https://edge.launchpad.net/~bugsquad-mentorship
[07:17] <stlsaint> ?
[07:19] <ddecator> stlsaint: that'd be the one
[07:20] <stlsaint> 41 active members....is that 41 people waiting to be assigned?
[07:22] <stlsaint> ddecator: ^^
[07:23] <ddecator> stlsaint: nope, active members include mentors and current students. those pending approval are the ones waiting to be assigned a mentor
[07:25] <stlsaint> hrm, some folks been waiting since last month, smh
[07:25] <stlsaint> alright i joined
[07:26] <stlsaint> ddecator: holding you and kermiac responsible if my experience goes bad!! :P
[07:26] <kermiac> what the??
[07:26] <stlsaint> thats right...
[07:27] <ddecator> stlsaint: some of them haven't been very responsive when the admins have tried to contact them iirc, so that's probably why they've been pending for that long
[07:27] <kermiac> ah, welcome to the BugSquad stlsaint :) feel free to ping me if you need a hand with anthing mate :)
[07:27] <ddecator> kermiac: no worries, stlsaint might just hate us in a couple of weeks :p
[07:28] <stlsaint> brb
[07:28] <kermiac> I only just fired up irc so i'm still reading the backscroll
[07:29] <ddecator> ha, good timing
[07:30] <hobgoblin> ddecator: that's a terrible thing to say about someone when they quit
[07:30] <hobgoblin> oh hi stlsaint
[07:30] <stlsaint> ddecator: WTF!?!?
[07:30] <ddecator> hobgoblin: he quit?
[07:30] <hobgoblin> stlsaint: it was not very nice :(
[07:31] <ddecator> i meant that the fact stlsaint mentioned him just as he got on IRC was good timing
[07:31] <stlsaint> ddecator: i see we are going to have problems already!
[07:31]  * ddecator has joins, parts, quits, nicks hidden
[07:31] <hobgoblin> so what is this bugsquad thing then - is it a new variation on the old theme ?
[07:32] <ddecator> the bugsquad is the bugsquad..
[07:32] <hobgoblin> k
[07:32]  * hobgoblin hopes they are better than the doc lot then 
[07:32] <ddecator> haven't worked with the doc team, but i think the bugsquad is good :)
[07:33]  * hobgoblin might think about thinking about that  team 
[07:35] <ddecator> wow, that's 3rd level motivation
[07:37] <hobgoblin> I'm slow
[07:39] <stlsaint> hobgoblin: i already have one strike against bugsquad...i dont believe in three >:|
[07:40] <ddecator> stlsaint: ...what?
[07:43] <stlsaint> ddecator: remember i already stated that i have had one bad experience with bugsquad...
[07:44] <stlsaint> which is why im inquiring alot about the squad before i proceed forward with trying to join
[07:44] <ddecator> stlsaint: oh, gotcha, i couldn't figure out what "three" you were talking about, haha
[07:44] <ddecator> it's more active in the morning for the western hemisphere
[07:44] <ddecator> in the channel
[07:47] <hobgoblin> another americocentric team then
[07:48] <hobgoblin> that sounded trollish, not at all what I meant
[07:50] <ddecator> actually a lot of the users i work with aren't in the US
[07:50] <ddecator> some are in south america, some are in the eastern hemisphere but have odd ours
[07:51] <hobgoblin> k
[07:52] <ddecator> s/ours/hours
[10:04] <lukjad> hobgoblin !
[10:09] <Artremis> RAWR!
[10:12] <zkriesse> can we help you Artremis
[10:14] <Artremis> not at the moment. though i hve this channel open as a precaution so when i do, i will be sure to ask. shouldn't be too long though as im trying to teach myself how to use terminal. ;)
[10:37] <kermiac> for anyone who is interested, the Ubuntu User Day https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDays has started in #ubuntu-classroom
[10:51] <hobgoblin> kermiac: thanks
[10:52] <kermiac> hobgoblin: no probs
[10:56] <hobgoblin> what's the chat classroom channel name - I rarely venture to the classroom anymore
[10:56] <zkriesse> hobgoblin: #ubuntu-classroom and #ubuntu-classroom-chat
[10:57] <hobgoblin> but I tell you something for nothing I shall be leaving if that micheal kid spams the channel as much as other places he goes to
[10:57] <zkriesse> yes i know
[10:58] <zkriesse> i've already banned him once from -wiki
[10:58] <zkriesse> I took it off but i'll put it back if he tries anything
[10:58] <hobgoblin> he drives me insane - and on the forum
[10:58] <pleia2> hobgoblin: fwiw, -classroom is moderated during sessions so you only have to worry about -classroom-chat being noisy ;)
[10:59] <hobgoblin> pleia2: just a general observation - nice to see kids being involved but sometimes they are like puppies who found their tail :D
[10:59] <hobgoblin> pleia2: zkriesse used to be the same :D
[10:59] <zkriesse> hobgoblin: yeah...not as bad though
[10:59] <hobgoblin> in your opinion ;)
[11:00] <zkriesse> hobgoblin: true
[11:00] <zkriesse> I'm know i was the same but at least i listened to you guys...
[11:00] <hobgoblin> pleia2: I assume that the channel works just as the same as it did when I did some stuff in the dim and distant past :)
[11:01] <pleia2> hobgoblin: not sure how long ago that was, but probably - questions and chat in -chat, instructor talks in -classroom
[11:01] <hobgoblin> yep
[11:01] <kermiac> have fun being first cab off the rank zkriesse :)
[11:01] <hobgoblin> pleia2: before all the education thing started - more or less when you joined the BT team
[11:02] <pleia2> hobgoblin: oh, well we have classbot now to automate lots of stuff! it's lovely :)
[11:02] <hobgoblin> :)
[11:03] <pleia2> ok, sessions have started and it's 3AM here, time for me to head to bed!
[11:03] <hobgoblin> well good luck zkriesse
[11:06] <aluex> hi,is there a ftp client soft recommended?
[11:09] <hobgoblin> aluex: I've not used one but this might be a good place to start http://linuxreviews.org/software/ftp-clients/
[11:09] <aluex> hobgoblin, thanx
[11:09] <kermiac> aluex: i use filezilla
[11:10] <aluex> oh,but it didn't work well on my computer
[11:10] <kermiac> aluex: what problem were you having? maybe i can help
[11:10] <aluex> kermiac, actually i need utf-8 support
[11:11] <kermiac> ah
[11:11] <aluex> eh,that's the problem
[11:13] <hobgoblin> back later - I shall be marking you when I return zkriesse :D
[11:24] <hobgoblin> zach panics
[11:25] <hobgoblin> panic over zkriesse :)
[11:26] <zkriesse> argh
[11:26] <duanedesign> morning all
[11:27] <aluex> kermiac, any solution please?
[11:27] <aluex> I've downloaded filezilla
[11:28] <kermiac> aluex: is the server you are logging into a public server? can you give me details & i will try to connect
[11:29] <aluex> ehm, that's the one in my school,not for public visiting
[11:29] <aluex> i just can't get the full list
[11:29] <kermiac> ok, can you paste the exact error message you are seeing
[11:29] <aluex> of current directory
[11:30] <aluex> no error message
[11:30] <aluex> just some strange symbols
[11:30] <aluex> i guess that's because of encoding
[11:31] <aluex> ok,back later. Out for breakfast
[11:52] <aluex> kermiac, i m back
[12:21] <zkriesse> so hobgoblin how'd i do
[12:22] <hobgoblin> just got back - not read the scroll back yet :)
[12:22] <zkriesse> ok
[12:24] <hobgoblin> well done zkriesse - looks good :)
[12:24] <zkriesse> thanks
[12:24] <hobgoblin> thank you I think :)
[12:26] <kermiac> hi duanedesign :)
[17:35] <hd1> how do i use unetbootin to target my usb drive (/dev/sdb1) for an iso?
[17:36] <pjarnahom> hd1, better u can use Startup disk creater
[17:36] <stlsaint> hd1: fire up unetbooit but ensure you have your usb drive plugged in
[17:37] <stlsaint> hd1: choose your iso to use as the source and the usb drive as the target, and let it run
[17:42] <hd1> stlsaint: mate, the bloody device isn't showing up in unetbootin
[17:43] <hd1> pjarnahom: to burn an iso to a usb drive??
[17:43] <mohi57o9> hd1: So you created Live usb and is that not loading during boot??
[17:44] <stlsaint> hd1: you need to format that usb drive
[17:44] <mohi57o9> stlsaint: he created a Live USB?
[17:46] <hd1> I'm TRYING TO CREATE a Live USB
[17:47] <hd1> and unetbootin isn't seeing my thumbdrive
[17:47] <hd1> whilst Linux does
[17:47] <hd1> and unetbootin is running on the same system
[17:48] <hd1> http://jmcneill.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!F507161C07E89CBE!170.entry ... wonder if this will work for me?
[17:48] <stlsaint> hd1: what is the format of that drive?
[17:55] <hd1> it's FAT32
[17:56] <hd1> created with mkfs.vfat
[17:56] <mohi57o9> hd1: try changing it to ext3
[17:57] <hd1> k...
[18:08] <hd1> it didn't boot the bloody thing
[18:27] <stlsaint> hd1: what error did you get?
[18:31] <hd1> stlsaint: no errors
[19:27] <nUboon2Age> Hello all.  Question: I've got a USB device that I can see using lsusb, but not in Nautilus. I should say sometimes I can see it in Nautilus, and sometimes not.  What can I do to get it visible in Nautilus?
[19:31] <aveilleux> nUboob2Age: Have you tried mounting it manually?
[19:33] <nUboon2Age> aveilleux: not yet, can you step me through it?
[19:34] <aveilleux> nUboon2Age: Can you pastebin the output of lsusb?
[19:34] <nUboon2Age> aveilleux: yes...
[19:34] <aveilleux> nUboon2Age: um... then please do it?
[19:36] <nUboon2Age> aveilleux: yes, the "..." meant i was doing it...  http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/qSefhrDM
[19:37] <nUboon2Age> aveilleux: its an ipod
[19:40] <nUboon2Age> aveilleux: it seems to have a mind of its own, sometimes it mounts by itself, but for the last few hours of rebooting, unplug/replug, lsusb, it hasn't come up in Nautilus.  It was working last night though, somewhat more consistently.
[19:40] <aveilleux> nUboon2Age: Give me a second while I remember how lsusb works
[19:45] <aveilleux> nUboon2Age: ...yeah, I don't really remember how to interpret the information that lsusb gives you. I thought it would give the /dev/usbX names.
[19:46] <nUboon2Age> aveilleux: my gf is calling me away from the computer...
[19:48] <nUboon2Age> aveilleux: if you figure something out just post it here whether or not my nick is up and if not immediately i'll find it in the log... being called away from computer by gf...
[19:48] <aveilleux> nUboon2Age: M'kay
[19:58] <geirha> nUboon2Age: Run dmesg,  take a note of what the last line is, then plug in the device, wait for it to settle for a few seconds, then run dmesg again and paste the lines that are new since last time.
[20:04] <nUboon2Age> geirha: aveilleux: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/jqeiixGM  (I'm having to do this in between other tasks)
[20:05] <geirha> nUboon2Age: Did it appear in nautilus after that?
[20:05] <nUboon2Age> geirha: aveilleux: no it didn't
[20:07] <Illusion> I am a newbie.. how do i increase the partition size of ubuntu. I have dual boot xp/ubuntu?
[20:08] <geirha> nUboon2Age: Hm. Ok. disconnect it. Run «devkit-disks --monitor-detail» in a terminal, leave it waiting, then insert the device again. Any output from the command?
[20:08] <aveilleux> Illusion: you can use a GParted boot CD to resize the partitions
[20:08] <geirha> Illusion: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoPartition
[20:09] <geirha> nUboon2Age: Oops, sorry, devkit-disks changed name to udisks in lucid
[20:09] <geirha> I think
[20:09] <geirha> I'm currently on karmic
[20:10] <Illusion> i will try it out.. Thanks aveilleux and geirha... Have spent 3 days on ubuntu and i love it so far..
[20:10] <geirha> Illusion: Wait
[20:11] <geirha> Illusion: Did you install it inside windows (wubi), or by booting the ubuntu CD and then installing?
[20:11] <Illusion> geirha: installed by booting ubuntu CD nd installing
[20:11] <bobo123> isn't gparted included on the ubuntu-cd btw? so Illusion could boot from the ubuntu livecd and start gparted from it
[20:12] <geirha> Illusion: Ok, good. It would be a different solution if it was a wubi install.
[20:13] <geirha> Yes, gparted is included on the ubuntu cd, so you can use the ubuntu cd to resize.
[20:13] <nUboon2Age> geirha: aveilleux: i did udisks --monitor-detail and there was no output to the terminal when i plugged in the usb/ipod cable
[20:14] <nUboon2Age> $ udisks --monitor-detail
[20:14] <nUboon2Age> Monitoring activity from the disks daemon. Press Ctrl+C to cancel.
[20:14] <Illusion> geirha: i will boot up using the ubuntu CD but where will i find gparted
[20:14] <nUboon2Age> geirha: aveilleux: nothing followed...
[20:15] <geirha> Illusion: System -> Administration -> gparted
[20:16] <geirha> nUboon2Age: Hm. Just to rule out bad port(s), try connecting it to different usb ports and see if that changes anything.
[20:18] <nUboon2Age> geirha: aveilleux: tried different usb ports, but the  udisks didn't report anything...
[20:21] <geirha> nUboon2Age: And did not turn up in nautilus?
[20:23] <nUboon2Age> correct
[20:23] <nUboon2Age> aveilleux: geirha: correct
[20:25] <geirha> nUboon2Age: Hm. Not much useful information in the places I expected. Currently out of ideas :/
[20:25] <geirha> Never touched an ipod myself either.
[20:26]  * hobgoblin neither 
[20:27] <hobgoblin> nUboon2Age: I would ask though if you have used it on windows recently and it got an upgrade
[20:30] <nUboon2Age> hobgoblin: geirha: not that I'm aware of, but i guess its possible.  Its my gf's
[20:31] <nUboon2Age> geirha: i hadn't heard of udisks before... is there a way to use it to mount a device?  How do I know how to tell it what the device is?
[20:34] <holstein> nUboon2Age: is there a 'disk mode' or some setting from the ipod?
[20:35] <holstein> it is showing up in lsusb even if it doesnt mount correct?
[20:36] <nUboon2Age> geirha: holstein: hobgoblin:    dump of udisks --dump  http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/81Vum522
[20:36] <hobgoblin> holstein: it shows in lsusb
[20:36] <holstein> you could run sudo fdisk -l
[20:36] <holstein> and try mounting the partition manually
[20:37] <holstein> check out
[20:37] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount
[20:38] <holstein> gparted would be another way to find the partition names
[20:38] <holstein> be careful in gparted though
[20:38]  * holstein BBL
[20:38] <nUboon2Age> result of sudo fdisk -l  holstein: hobgoblin: geirha http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/v0bi9xxK
[20:40] <nUboon2Age> geirha: holstein: hobgoblin:    (oh, maybe the fdisk -l thing was directed to illusion )
[20:42] <nUboon2Age> holstein: yes it shows up in lsusb but not in Nautilus.
[20:43] <nUboon2Age> holstein: I don't know about a 'disk mode' on ipod.
[20:43] <hobgoblin> nUboon2Age: he's gone for the moment
[20:43] <nUboon2Age> holstein: geirha: hobgoblin: one thing, is showing up in Nautilus the exact same thing as being 'mounted' ?
[20:43] <hobgoblin> muzha swoody - good day gents
[20:44] <muzha> hey hobgoblin
[20:44] <hobgoblin> nUboon2Age: yes it is
[20:44] <swoody> and to you hobgoblin :)
[20:44] <nUboon2Age> hobgoblin: thank you i wasn't sure.
[20:44] <hobgoblin> nUboon2Age: at least more or less :) things will show there if the system recognises them - I have drives in nautilus that are not actually mounted
[20:45] <hobgoblin> nUboon2Age: unfortunately ipods are one of those things that can be problematic
[21:08] <nUboon2Age> hobgoblin: you're telling me. :/
[21:09] <nUboon2Age> geirha: hobgoblin: holstein: did the udisks --dump at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/v0bi9xxK provide any useful info?
[21:13] <nUboon2Age> geirha: hobgoblin holstein: i guess i don't see the ipod represented there.  So udisks has some switches for mounting, but i don't know how to address the ipod to use it.
[21:17] <nUboon2Age> $ udisks --mount ipod
[21:17] <nUboon2Age> Cannot stat device file ipod: No such file or directory
[21:17] <nUboon2Age> geirha: hobgoblin: holstein: ^^^^
[21:20] <nUboon2Age> geirha: hobgoblin: holstein: $ udisks --mount /dev/sr0    Mount failed: Error mounting: mount: /dev/sr0: unknown device
[21:24] <nUboon2Age> geirha: holstein, result of mount (at beginning) http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/YyWDxwEd
[21:24] <nUboon2Age> geirha: holstein: (running mount command that is)
[22:48] <zkriesse> hello Path1
[22:48] <Path1> hi
[22:48] <Path1> just started using ubuntu about 2 months
[22:48] <Path1> hate windows
[22:49] <Path1> im trying to figure out how to display the places menu with more than 9 bookmarks.
[22:50] <Path1> if I have more than 9 bookmarks it will only show a sub menu that says bookmarks
[22:55] <Path1> is there a way to show all bookmarks and folders ect. in one window?
[22:58] <geirha> I don't think that's configurable.
[23:07] <Path1> Path1: hi
[23:07] <Path1> (16:48:40) Path1: just started using ubuntu about 2 months
[23:07] <Path1> (16:48:49) Path1: hate windows
[23:07] <Path1> (16:49:52) Path1: im trying to figure out how to display the places menu with more than 9 bookmarks.
[23:07] <Path1> (16:50:44) Path1: if I have more than 9 bookmarks it will only show a sub menu that says bookmarks
[23:09] <seidos> Path1, are you talking about bookmarks in firefox?
[23:15] <Path1> no
[23:16] <Path1> ubuntu
[23:16] <seidos> I'm not even sure what ubuntu bookmarks are.  how can I view them?
[23:16] <seidos> Path1 ^^
[23:17] <Path1> lefthand side in the file browser, under the folders
[23:24] <seidos> ah, I see "bookmarks" under places.  That's what you mean?
[23:24] <seidos> ^^ Path1
[23:55] <Path1> sorry something happened to the house power
[23:55] <Path1> yes seidos that's what I mean
[23:56] <seidos> Path1, unfortunately, I'm not sure where that folder is contained.  let me try searching for it using locate in a terminal
[23:57] <Path1> click on places and the window that opens shows your folders and bookmarks
[23:58] <Path1> when in file browser you can right on any folder and save it as a bookmark. it will show on the left side right under your folders