[03:29] <jcastro> pleia2: around?
[03:32] <pleia2> jcastro: yep
[03:32] <jcastro> those ubuntu women marketing materials look quite amazing!
[03:33] <jcastro> is there a plan for shirts?
[03:33] <pleia2> yeah, Troy did a really amazing job
[03:33] <maco> troy's awesome
[03:33] <maco> oh oh can i go update the shirt design i made with the new logos then?
[03:33] <pleia2> I've been talking to Cathy Malmrose of ZaReason about some resellers she uses for t-shirts
[03:33] <pleia2> maco: please do! :)
[03:34] <jcastro> count me in for 4-5 shirts!
[03:34] <jcastro> have you talked to someone at zazzle?
[03:34] <jcastro> they do the mozilla store iirc
[03:34] <pleia2> akgraner had some shirts printed up by zazzle, I don't know anything about the quality, etc of those
[03:34] <maco> pleia2's been talking to actual high quality printers local to her
[03:34] <jcastro> \o/
[03:34] <maco> which reminds me: please no cafepress
[03:35] <maco> ink fade :(
[03:35] <pleia2> maco: do you know how they are for other things, like coffee mugs?
[03:35] <pleia2> I am not too keen on them for clothes, but I was wondering about other items
[03:35] <jcastro> pleia2: gnome and mozilla use zazzle
[03:35] <jcastro> they appear to be quite awesome, no idea on price or specifics tho
[03:36] <maco> all i have from cafepress is at  shirt
[03:36] <maco> a t shirt
[03:36] <pleia2> price seemed high to me at zazzle
[03:36] <pleia2> but we'll spec out some ideas
[03:36] <jcastro> yeah :-/
[03:36] <jcastro> I have like 4 tshirt stores local to me, so if you run into a dead end lmk
[03:36] <jcastro> I happen to live within a mile of like all 4 of them
[03:37] <jcastro> dunno how I got so lucky, hah
[03:37] <pleia2> the california team got our shirts from a local place, but the women's t-shirts are actually see-through
[03:37] <maco> jcastro: do you have SVGs of the new logos?
[03:37] <pleia2> I am thankful for the donation, but I have to wear another shirt under mine when I wear my CA T :)
[03:37] <maco> ubuntu, xubuntu, kubuntu, ubuntu studio, uw, and edubuntu are all on the shirt design i made
[03:37] <maco> jcastro: have you seen that?
[03:37] <jcastro> maco: links please!
[03:37] <jcastro> no I don't have svgs
[03:38] <maco> jcastro: http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/Ideas/TShirtDesigns
[03:38] <jcastro> (if you want svgs perhaps ask ken wimer?)
[03:38] <maco> but of course all the logos have to be replaced now
[03:38] <maco> and i guess the font where it says ubuntu women
[03:38] <jcastro> the vines are cool!
[03:38] <maco> pleia2: the ubuntu font for that you think?
[03:39] <jcastro> oh hey, I thought about something today
[03:39] <maco> jcastro: thanks
[03:39] <doctormo> maco, jcastro: would you like svg versions?
[03:39] <maco> doctormo: yes please
[03:39] <jcastro> doctormo: not me personally, but she does
[03:39] <maco> jcastro: do you see an easter egg on that design?
[03:39] <doctormo> maco:what was the original made in?
[03:39] <maco> doctormo: inkscape
[03:39] <jcastro> I see the debian swirl if that's what you mean
[03:39] <maco> jcastro: yep :)
[03:39] <jcastro> maco: I got you beat!
[03:39] <maco> doctormo: well, i mean...paper and pencil...and then inkscape
[03:39] <doctormo> lol
[03:40] <jcastro> maco: ok I lie, emma jane's got you beat, she gave us hand made blankets for a wedding gift
[03:40] <jcastro> with hidden debian swirls!
[03:40] <doctormo> maco: Ah so what happened to the svg versions? are they lost int he sands of time or just with someone else?
[03:40] <jcastro> maco: remind me later and I'll take a picture
[03:40] <maco> i didnt have a tablet yet at the time, so i drew on paper, then scanned and did an autotrace in inkscape, then manually cleaned it up
[03:40] <maco> doctormo: on my hard disk
[03:41] <maco> doctormo: the wiki just wouldnt display svg right or something so i uploaded a png
[03:41] <pleia2> maco: yeah, I'd go with the new ubuntu font
[03:41] <maco> doctormo: hey wait there's a *link* to the svg!
[03:41] <jcastro> hey so anyway I did a komen walk a few months ago and they have like, teams of people
[03:41] <jcastro> and I was thinking it'd be cool to have an ubuntu logo with the pink ribbon
[03:41] <doctormo> maco: OK, so you don't need an svg, you already have one? Just trying to make sure before I retrace this design.
[03:42] <jcastro> but I have not thought this through, I only thought about it a few hours ago
[03:42] <maco> doctormo: i need svgs of the new logos so i can modify my existing svg of that design to have the new ones
[03:42] <maco> doctormo: because those are the old colourful logos
[03:42] <pleia2> I am not sure if xubuntu ever got around to making a new logo
[03:42] <maco> weren't they the first after ubuntu to do so?
[03:42]  * pleia2 's only input was "Make sure it still has the mouse, we love the mouse, I use xubuntu because of the mouse"
[03:43] <pleia2> they never settled on one
[03:43] <maco> i thought cody pulled one out of the hat immediately
[03:43] <doctormo> maco: So a new logo for ubuntu women hasn't been created yet, or hasn't been put up for download in svg?
[03:43] <pleia2> maco: there were a few drafts, no decision
[03:43] <maco> doctormo: we have svg for UW. i dont know where to find SVG for kubuntu or ubuntu or xubuntu or ubuntu studio
[03:43] <maco> i imagine the ubuntu branding page has an ubuntu one *somewhere*
[03:43] <maco> did studio get a new logo?
[03:44] <doctormo> maco: cool, link me to the new svg for uw and I'll put it in my collection.
[03:44] <maco> ive only seen png versions for kubuntu though :-/
[03:44] <maco> i'll have to bother jonathan later
[03:44] <pleia2> doctormo: http://www.ubuntu-women.org/img/ubuntu-women-community-identity/
[03:45] <pleia2> (they're also available here, but it's 160M of stuff and contains tons of other design elements: https://code.launchpad.net/~troy-sobotka/+junk/ubuntu-women-community-identity )
[03:45] <maco> in particular http://www.ubuntu-women.org/img/ubuntu-women-community-identity/ubuntu-women-cof.svg
[03:47] <jcastro> any ideas for a breast cancer ubuntu shirt?
[03:47]  * jcastro jumps up and down for attention
[03:47] <maco> jcastro: would munnies go to the breast cancer people? cuz putting the pink ribbon there without donating is icky
[03:48] <jcastro> the way I've seen it work is people make their own shirts
[03:48] <jcastro> and walk/run in events and the money goes to the charity
[03:48] <paultag> hey jcastro
[03:48] <jcastro> but it would be cool if there was an "official" shirt that had X% going to the fund, like other organizations do
[03:49] <paultag> jcastro: are we doing a coders for brest cancer thing or something?
[03:49] <paultag> +1 jcastro
[03:49] <paultag> jcastro: my grandmother just got thru fighting brest cancer, I'm here to help
[03:49] <duanedesign> with the ubuntu new ubuntu logo you could replace the small circle of fiends at the end with the pink ribbon
[03:49] <jcastro> paultag: no I was just thinking outloud, I did a walk a few months ago
[03:49] <paultag> jcastro: ahha
[03:49] <jcastro> but it came up in my head today
[03:49] <paultag> jcastro: I'm down to help if you need it
[03:49] <jcastro> because my wife was like "there's some party on friday and miss michigan will be there but you need to dress up and pay money"
[03:49] <jcastro> and I was like "screw that"
[03:50] <maco> oooh apparently i organized things on my hard drive at some point
[03:50] <jcastro> then today I was wearing the cancer shirt and she was like "you could have just worn that?"
[03:50] <maco> instead of being on ~/Desktop/ the vine design is in ~/Pictures/designs/UW/ surprisingly
[03:50] <jcastro> then she tells me the entire event is a breast cancer fundraiser
[03:50] <jcastro> so now all my family thinks I'm too lazy/cheap to go to a fundraiser because I was never paying attention
[03:51] <maco> oh oh
[03:51] <maco> you just referred to jill as your wife! weeeeeeeeee!
[03:51] <paultag> Oh noe!!!!
[03:51] <jcastro> maco: it's been a month!
[03:51] <jcastro> paultag: miss ohio is there too! (Her step brother is miss michigan's boyfriend)
[03:51] <jcastro> so anyway, I'm wearing this susan komen shirt today
[03:51] <paultag> jcastro: Wa wa wee wa, how old?
[03:52] <jcastro> and I was like "we can so do an ubuntu team"
[03:52] <jcastro> sort of like how leann and dustin wear ubuntu shirts when they do marathons
[03:52] <jcastro> we could do ubuntu shirts during the komen marches around the country
[03:52] <jcastro> paultag: 25ish I guess?
[03:53] <paultag> jcastro: but seriously, can we do something for breast cancer?
[03:53] <jcastro> so yeah, I think so
[03:54] <duanedesign> jcastro: the susan komen logo looks like a pink ribbon/ person
[03:54] <jcastro> duanedesign: yeah, so, circle of friends them. :D
[03:54] <paultag> the pSoF
[03:54] <jcastro> Circle is spelled with a C paultag
[03:55] <paultag> Doh!!!
[03:55] <paultag> wow, bad mistake
[03:55] <jcastro> it's ok, you have an ohio education
[03:55] <paultag> jcastro: I grew up in Boston!
[03:55] <paultag> jcastro: but my University would be proud
[03:55] <Pendulum> okay, I hate to be a bit of a naysayer here, but if you're going to do an official Ubuntu breast cancer shirt, are you going to have a problem if people start designing their own in support of other causes?
[03:55] <paultag> jcastro: at least it's not michigan state
[03:55] <maco> now we know what doctormo's progeny have to look forward to for education!
[03:55] <duanedesign> it has the circle at the top. if you added two more circles you would almost have an ubuntu loogo
[03:55] <jcastro> Pendulum: I have no idea how it works, I am thinking outloud
[03:55] <Pendulum> or what're you going to do if they start bringing their causes to you and saying "do one of this too"
[03:55] <Pendulum> how do you cut it off?
[03:56] <jcastro> right
[03:56] <paultag> Pendulum: run it through the community, I guess
[03:56] <jcastro> "ubuntu users for the erradication of non-metal music"
[03:56] <maco> -1
[03:56] <duanedesign> jcastro: sometimes just making something pink is enought o associatte it with breast cancer
[03:56] <pleia2> haha
[03:56] <paultag> -1
[03:56] <paultag> bah!
[03:56] <paultag> jcastro: ubuntu user for the promotion of electro-anarcho-punk-funk-rock-folk
[03:57] <maco> punk funk?
[03:57] <maco> wait i wanna hear this
[03:57] <jcastro> we did do the ubuntu one music store proceeds for the lynx
[03:57] <paultag> Man, I'll have to do some digging
[03:57] <paultag> sec
[03:57] <Pendulum> personally, while I support breast cancer research, I feel like it's a big fundraiser thing when a lot of other just as deserving issues get ignored (for the record, my grandmother has breast cancer and will for the rest of her life)
[03:57] <pleia2> of course the trademark situation has to be taken into account, I'm even somewhat shy to offer ubuntu women shirts via a store like zazzle because of it
[03:58] <maco> pleia2: yeah, thats something we have to go talk to canonical lawyers about right? because thered be $ happening
[03:58] <maco> jono said talk to lawyers, he cant bless it
[03:58] <jcastro> Pendulum: yeah, it's a weird topic. tbh it wasn't until I learned of a relative who I didn't even know dying from it I would have been obivious
[03:58] <pleia2> maco: yeah, elky went through some pain when she worked at a store selling ubuntu, they couldn't sell ubuntu shirts
[03:58] <pleia2> s/selling ubuntu/selling ubuntu pcs
[03:58] <maco> pleia2: i thought it was "she couldnt get a discount on shirts and got annoyed"?
[03:59] <paultag> maco: this is a rad track http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ME9cHn6j88o&feature=related
[03:59] <maco> they said she'd have to buy them at the canonical store online and mark them up
[03:59] <pleia2> no, her only option was paying full price from the canonical store and passing along that to the customers, they couldn't make any
[03:59] <maco> oh, no markup allowed? dang
[03:59] <jcastro> why not make your own like locos do?
[03:59] <paultag> maco: that or this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPallS7LMlE <-- but this is remixed mainstream
[03:59] <maco> jcastro: the issue is using the ubuntu logo
[03:59] <pleia2> I think selling loco shirts for profit is a somewhat grey area
[03:59] <paultag> +1 pleia2
[04:00] <jcastro> oh, I see, for profit
[04:00] <paultag> pleia2: imho if it's for a loco it's cool, but for personal gain is a bit off without going through Canonical
[04:00] <paultag> pleia2: I think Canonical has the same view
[04:00] <maco> jcastro: well even if UW puts no markup, zazzle's making a profit by selling 'em for us, see?
[04:00]  * jcastro nods
[04:00] <Pendulum> jcastro: for the record, my grandmother isn't actually dying of it, but she was 87 when diagnosed and they opted for conservative treatment because surgery and then chemo or radiation probably had at least as good a chance of killing her as the cancer does
[04:01] <maco> however i think a small markup for UW might be interesting to fund some of the group initiatives...
[04:01] <jcastro> ok, I'll ask internally about how things like this work
[04:01] <pleia2> I don't actually know where canonical would come down on these things, but I do keep it in mind, especially when we start talking about using the logo beyond "team" stuff
[04:01] <paultag> aye
[04:01] <jcastro> pleia2: it's a tough road I am sure
[04:01] <jcastro> on one hand you want people to do awesome thing
[04:02] <jcastro> on the other you want to make sure that "ubuntu members for killing babies" isn't possible
[04:02] <pleia2> but then all of a sudden the ubuntu logo is promoting pro-life marches ;)
[04:02] <paultag> ach!
[04:02] <paultag> over my dead body :(
[04:02]  * nigelb yawns
[04:02] <nigelb> morning folks
[04:02] <pleia2> hey nigelb, all ready for User Days? :D
[04:02] <nigelb> pleia2: oh yes
[04:03] <pleia2> \o/
[04:03] <nigelb> though I just realized today is second saturday
[04:03] <nigelb> which means banks are closed and no way for me to get some stuff done
[04:03] <maco> oh dang.
[04:03] <pleia2> guess you'll have to stay home with us
[04:03] <maco> *grumble*
[04:03] <maco> i have to figure out what im gonna say
[04:03] <maco> and umm what time my thing is
[04:03] <pleia2> lol
[04:04] <nigelb> LOL
[04:04] <maco> and umm...also write some ruby and scheme (and i dont know those languages! plz help me!)
[04:04] <Pendulum> maco: you're after me
[04:04] <Pendulum> so I think you're at 6PM Eastern
[04:04] <maco> ruby was due 2 weeks ago and scheme was due wednesday and im stuck :(
[04:04] <nigelb> I'm glad she remembers she's taking a session :p
[04:04] <Pendulum> and I should go to bed so I can be awake in 6 hours :(
[04:04] <nigelb> ruby should be ok
[04:05] <nigelb> scheme = compiler design or something?
[04:05] <maco> i cant figure out how to access member variables of a class instance
[04:05] <maco> no, scheme is a lisp
[04:05] <nigelb> ah
[04:05] <nigelb> paultag should know
[04:05] <maco> i did compiler design a year ago
[04:06] <nigelb> Im still yet to figure out what time it starts
[04:07] <nigelb> ha! its at 3 pm
[04:07] <nigelb> I guess I'm the only one with a comfortable time zone :D
[04:08]  * nigelb nudges pleia2 :p
[04:08] <pleia2> hehe
[04:08] <duanedesign> jcastro: http://ln-s.net/7E83
[04:09] <jcastro> hahah that's awesome
[04:09] <duanedesign> :) tux fights breast cancer
[04:17] <nigelb> maco: might wanna join #ubuntu-classroom-backstage before you take your session :)
[04:41] <nigelb> maco: what do you want us to introduce you as?
[04:43] <maco> um mackenzie?
[04:43] <maco> dont introduce me as sarah or something...
[04:43] <nigelb> haha
[04:43] <nigelb> no
[04:44] <nigelb> I mean a short paragraph about you
[04:50] <paultag> Hahahaha
[04:50] <paultag> sec, darn internet
[04:52] <nigelb> paultag: I got one for you :D
[04:53] <pleia2> one internet?
[04:54] <nigelb> pleia2: oh no, intro
[04:54] <pleia2> oh, that :)
[04:54] <nigelb> pleia2: I'm taking the freedom of making stuff up for maco coz she's lazy to write her own
[04:55] <pleia2> lol
[04:55] <pleia2> make one up for me too, I still need to write my class
[04:56] <nigelb> sure :)
[04:56] <pleia2> :)
[04:57] <nigelb> oh yay mango in the morning
[04:59] <doctormo> maco, pleia2: http://imagebin.ca/view/KtcTtfl.html
[05:00] <pleia2> doctormo: wow, that's pretty!
[05:00] <nigelb> doctormo: can you write a few sentences about you on http://ubuntu-classroom.ietherpad.com/1 ?
[05:00] <doctormo> nigelb: Sure thing
[05:00] <maco> doctormo: beautiful!
[05:01]  * nigelb lols @ doctormo's intro
[05:04] <doctormo> nigelb: Anything I've missed?
[05:04] <nigelb> nope
[05:06] <doctormo> pleia2: Any responses for the loco interview?
[05:06] <nhandler> doctormo: Any chance of you using your artistic talent to create a tshirt design for Ubuntu Chicago ? We have everything in Chicago, just no artists
[05:07] <pleia2> doctormo: none yet, but there don't tend to be for these
[05:07] <pleia2> and thanks for doing the interview :)
[05:08] <doctormo> maco: would it be horrid to add in a foss flower? http://doctormo.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/floss1-248x300.png
[05:08] <doctormo> nhandler: What kind of tshirt and what would you want it to show off/symbolise?
[05:11] <nhandler> doctormo: It is probably worth waiting on nixternal (he has the most artistic talent out of all of us). But http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-chicago is really the only artwork we have besides http://www.flickr.com/photos/kgelster/4181006489/in/faves-nhandler/ . We are just trying to come up with some shirt that looks decent enough for us to wear at events
[05:11] <maco> doctormo: ask pleia2. she's our lizard
[05:12] <nigelb> lizard?
[05:12] <pleia2> I'll just make something up
[05:12] <pleia2> most of our ideas are pretty basic "logo and words" - this one was pretty, eye-catching, showing ubuntu and lots of flavors, lots of ways to get involved and stuff
[05:13] <pleia2> since the goal of the project is to inspire and encourage
[05:13] <doctormo> pleia2: Could I add a foss logo to the vine design? something small?
[05:13] <pleia2> yeah, I think it's fine
[05:14] <maco> i'm glad doctormo understood that the logos were meant to be the flowers on the vine
[05:14] <maco> nigelb: ever read the hitchhikers guide?
[05:14] <doctormo> maco: It helps that you named the layer: [flowers] ;-)
[05:14] <maco> "take me to your lizard"
[05:14] <nigelb> maco: ahhh
[05:14] <maco> doctormo: oh did i?
[05:14]  * maco pats past-me on the head
[05:14] <pleia2> hehe
[05:14] <doctormo> maco: Heh, almost as good as "I call my cat The Lord"
[05:15] <maco> pleia2: im a kubuntu user. you think i was gonna make a design that just had ubuntu logo? pfffffffffft
[05:15] <pleia2> plus, blue is prettier
[05:16] <maco> yes
[05:16] <maco> like when i did that kubuntu/kde session filling in for celeste
[05:16] <nigelb> xubuntu blue i prettier than kubuntu
[05:16] <nigelb> kubuntu is a lot of eyewash
[05:16] <maco> "why do all the girls like kde?" "because its prettier than gnome!"
[05:16]  * nigelb runs.  Fast.
[05:16] <pleia2> nigelb: +1
[05:16] <maco> and then pleia2 going "hey! i like gnome!"
[05:16] <pleia2> no no, I like xfce :)
[05:16] <paultag> FLUXBOX!
[05:17] <maco> oh. ok maybe you said "i dont like kde" then :P
[05:17] <pleia2> yeah probably
[05:17] <nigelb> paultag: quoting you "fluxbox is for kids"
[05:17] <pleia2> paultag: actually, I have 4 computers at home - 1 has xfce, 1 has gnome, 2 have fluxbox
[05:17] <paultag> w00t
[05:17] <paultag> pleia2: that's my package :3
[05:17] <pleia2> <3 u
[05:17] <paultag> aww
[05:17] <pleia2> gnome on the netbook is nice because it's easy clicky for wifi and stuff
[05:18] <paultag> pleia2: you can run GNOME on Fluxbox
[05:18] <paultag> just ditch compiz and metacity
[05:18] <pleia2> paultag: actually... both the fluxbox machines are debian
[05:18] <paultag> w00t!!!
[05:18] <paultag> pleia2: that's my baby right there
[05:18] <paultag> pleia2: testing?
[05:18] <paultag> or stable
[05:19] <pleia2> stable, so not yours yet
[05:19] <pleia2> one of the machines is my firewall+lots of other stuff I consolidated into one machine
[05:19] <pleia2> the other is my million year old laptop
[05:19] <paultag> Ugh, I can't write about myself
[05:20] <pleia2> just make stuff up, that's what I do
[05:21] <pleia2> include superpowers
[05:21] <maco> and on the 19th day, paultag created elephants!
[05:21] <maco> and then mated them with sheep to make snuffleupagus
[05:21] <paultag> Oh man
[05:21] <nigelb> hahahah
[05:21] <paultag> I actually really want to use that
[05:21]  * nigelb LOLs
[05:21] <doctormo> Can anyone give me the new beta of the ubuntu font? I can't seem to get it because I won't put my launchpad password into my apt list file.
[05:22] <maco> doctormo: your lp password doesnt go in there.....
[05:22] <paultag> goddamnit doctormo
[05:22] <paultag> doctormo: it's not your darn lp password
[05:22] <maco> doctormo: a long hash thingy goes in there
[05:22] <paultag> doctormo: I told you this, it's a unique hash
[05:22] <maco> its an auth key
[05:22] <paultag> +1 maco
[05:22] <paultag> you can reset it doctormo
[05:22] <doctormo> paultag: *shrug*
[05:22] <paultag> doctormo: it's not even a hash of your password, SHAZBOT
[05:22] <doctormo> paultag: Where is the big red button that says GO
[05:23] <paultag> no need :)
[05:23] <doctormo> paultag: Oh you'll just send me the ttf by email?
[05:24] <maco> doctormo: cant download the deb through lp?
[05:24] <doctormo> nope
[05:24] <paultag> no doctormo
[05:24] <paultag> doctormo: that's bad :(
[05:24] <paultag> doctormo: because you won't get updates
[05:24] <doctormo> Besides I can't jump into sysadmin mode while I'm in art mode, can someone send it me before I have to ditch art mode?
[05:24] <paultag> doctormo: just download it off the ppa over http
[05:24] <paultag> doctormo: just hit your ppa via http
[05:24] <paultag> doctormo: and download the .deb
[05:25] <paultag> doctormo: fsck it I'll send you a deb, but _not_ the ttf
[05:25] <maco> haha
[05:25]  * maco wouldnt know what to do with it if handed a ttf
[05:25] <maco> i think i would run "find / -name *.ttf" to see where the rest of them are
[05:25] <paultag> maco: somewhere in /usr/ I think
[05:25] <paultag> /usr/share/fonts or something
[05:26] <maco> well i might try locate, but i think you have to know the actual file name not just *.ttf with that
[05:26] <maco> so i think id try locate, get it wrong, and resort to a slow find
[05:26] <paultag> :)
[05:26] <doctormo> Wait I think I may have found something
[05:26] <paultag> k doctormo
[05:26] <paultag> doctormo: I just sent it, so bah
[05:27] <nigelb> AlanBell: ping, poke, and everything else that hurts
[05:27] <paultag> OK. I need sleep
[05:27] <pleia2> night paultag
[05:27] <paultag> night nigelb. My stuff is in order. Be sure to include the maco quote
[05:27] <doctormo> ubuntu-private-nda-fonts - wow, they should have just called it: copy-and-die.deb
[05:27] <paultag> night pleia2 :)
[05:27] <paultag> doctormo: darn skippy
[05:27] <paultag> doctormo: 'night!
[05:27] <nigelb> paultag: LOL
[05:27] <doctormo> thanks paultag, you get cudos anyway!
[05:28] <nigelb> paultag: you want it as a quote or integrated in?
[05:28] <paultag> nigelb: either way works, I think it will set the tone of how I'm going to present stuff
[05:28] <paultag> it's just goofy enough to be right
[05:28] <paultag> thanks maco :3
[05:28] <maco> doctormo: plotical? im guessing you mean political
[05:29] <maco> (i just changed it on etherpad. tell me if i changed wrongly)
[05:29] <pleia2> plotical is funnier
[05:32] <jcastro> doctormo: the "nda" in the name is a bug, we're fixing that
[05:32] <doctormo> jcastro: I figured it was just something like that, I just wanted to be funny.
[05:32] <jcastro> it's a fair question!
[05:33] <doctormo> pleia2: I agree, it is funnier, I wonder how I can make a plotical blog.
[05:37] <maco> you gues!
[05:37] <maco> *guys!
[05:37] <maco> i spelled "snuffleupagus" right!
[05:38] <maco> (but not guys. and which one is only four letters, hmmm???)
[05:38] <nigelb> hahah
[05:38] <nigelb> maco: its like in maths
[05:38] <maco> oh golly
[05:38] <maco> maths
[05:39] <nigelb> I can get differentiation and integration right
[05:39] <nigelb> but miss 3+2
[05:39] <maco> im going to cringe every time i have to say maths
[05:39] <nigelb> why?
[05:39] <maco> because in the US it's singular
[05:40] <maco> though actually Keybuk, who is british, agrees that math is more right than maths
[05:40] <maco> because you don't abbreviate something and then keep the plural s
[05:40]  * nigelb grns
[05:40] <nigelb> *grins
[05:40] <maco> if you're removing ematic from the middle of mathematics, you're going to need an apostrophe to make up for it: math's
[05:41] <maco> (besides that, ths is an annoying sound to try to make)
[05:52] <doctormo> maco, pleia2: wallpaper version: http://imagebin.ca/view/mogKjena.html
[05:54] <maco> yay!
[05:55] <maco> i like the big logo off to the side like that (like i put it :P) because it makes space for the text
[05:57] <pleia2> nice :)
[05:58] <doctormo> So many errors in that last version! so sorry: http://imagebin.ca/view/kXHOY5SI.html
[07:41] <AlanBell> nigelb: hi
[07:42] <nigelb> AlanBell: we need your intro :)
[07:42] <nigelb> http://ubuntu-classroom.ietherpad.com/1
[07:43] <AlanBell> erm it is asking for a password
[07:43] <ddecator> AlanBell: make sure the /1 is at the end of the URL (i ran into the same thing)
[07:44] <AlanBell> got it, thanks
[07:48] <jussi> shamelessly stolen from a community member: Why did the programmer die in the shower? The shampoo said lather, rinse, repeat. :D
[07:49] <jussi> and good morning!
[07:49] <ddecator> morning jussi!
[07:50] <jussi> morning ddecator
[07:52] <jussi> oh, did we all know it is Nelson Mandela Day on July 18? http://en.mandeladay.com/About.aspx
[08:04] <nigelb> AlanBell: Love the intro including the poke at Kubuntu :p
[08:04] <nigelb> Alan and his family all use Ubuntu, however the chickens in the garden seem to prefer Kubuntu. :p
[08:05] <ddecator> heh
[08:08] <AlanBell> http://people.ubuntu.com/~alanbell/chicken.png
[08:08] <nigelb> hahahahaha
[08:09] <AlanBell> you thought I was joking!
[08:09] <AlanBell> maco: ^^
[08:09] <nigelb> jussi: ^^
[08:11] <vish> doctormo: apart from the ubuntu logo [the smaller one in the center] being rotated , looks neat!
[08:11] <jussi> sigh :P
[08:11] <vish> rotated in the sense , wrongly positioned..
[08:11] <vish> ;p
[08:12] <jussi> chromium is just evil sometimes
[08:19] <ddecator> AlanBell: that is amazing, haha
[09:29] <vish> maco: hmm ,you'd probably get a comment.. the ubuntu logo is wrong.. in doctormo's one.   you could pay some attention to non-kubuntu stuff ;p
[09:29] <nigelb> haha
[09:30] <maco> vish: whats wrong? its not rotated funny or anything...
[09:30] <maco> its just *tiny*
[09:30] <nigelb> which is also wrong :p
[09:30] <vish> maco: the logo is the wrong direction , the COF
[09:31] <maco> hmm?oh  it is slightly rotated
[09:31] <vish> yeah
[09:31] <maco> it wasnt in the one he showed before was it?
[09:31] <vish> maco: it was.. thats where i first noticed
[09:31] <maco> in the first one he posted?
[09:32] <vish> yeah , in the scrollback , both versions
[09:32] <maco> wait but relative to the vine its right
[09:33] <nigelb> flimsy excuse
[09:33] <maco> the text is following the vine. it looks like the logo is oriented to match up with the text and follow the vine
[09:33] <nigelb> everything else is not related to the vine
[09:33] <nigelb> if its related to the vine, it should be tilted a bit more
[09:34] <maco> well im sure he's asleep now so deal later
[09:34] <nigelb> the buttom dots must be in the same line which must be paralel to the vine
[10:45] <qense> goodmorning
[10:45] <nigelb> qense: morning!
[10:45] <nigelb> its User days!
[10:45] <qense> hey nigelb!
[10:45] <qense> yay!
[10:45] <nigelb> qense: can you an intro for yourself here http://ubuntu-classroom.ietherpad.com/1
[10:46] <qense> will do!
[10:46]  * nigelb hugs qense :)
[10:47]  * qense hugs nigelb
[10:47] <qense> It's warm here!
[10:48] <qense> Almost 30 degrees Celsius already!
[11:15] <qense> nigelb: How's my introduction?
[11:16] <Pendulum> qense: he lost power. I can look at it if you'd like
[11:17] <qense> Pendulum: If you could, please.
[11:17] <Pendulum> looks good to me :)
[11:17] <qense> Pendulum: Wait, how do you know he lost power?
[11:17] <qense> Pendulum: Thanks!
[11:17] <Pendulum> he sent me a text
[11:17] <qense> :)
[11:17] <qense> ah!
[11:25] <duanedesign> morning all
[11:26] <Pendulum> hi duanedesign
[11:29] <qense> English speakers! Can you say 'a central place from where you fetch the applications you want'?
[11:29] <qense> from where doesn't sound really good
[11:30] <Pendulum> it's completely gramatically correct, although I think most people would say "from which"
[11:31] <duanedesign> a central place where you
[11:31] <duanedesign> although Pendulums version sounds classier :)
[11:32] <qense> I'll go with Pendulum's suggestion. Thanks!
[11:32] <duanedesign> better get lernid fired up...
[11:33] <qense> How stable is Lernid today?
[11:36] <duanedesign> qense: seems good. i am on Maverick FWIW.
[11:36] <Pendulum> qense: one person had a bug (usernames showing up as <???>), but otherwise people seem to be fine with it
[11:36] <qense> I'm too.
[11:37] <qense> good
[11:37] <qense> If there is an emergency with Lernid, I can lend my programming skills if needed! :D
[11:44] <duanedesign> qense: how is Ubuntu Wanted development coming along?
[11:45] <duanedesign> i had an old UDS post stuck in my blog pueue so I got to blog abbout that UDS session recently
[11:45] <duanedesign> s/pueue/queue
[11:46] <qense> duanedesign: I haven't given it much attention lately, to be honest. Lack of time.
[11:46] <qense> and energy
[11:48] <duanedesign> qense: i understand how it can be :)
[12:13] <qense> lunch time, I'm off
[12:38] <qense> back
[15:14] <czajkowski> lo
[15:15] <paultag> heyya czajkowski
[15:15] <qense> hi czajkowski
[15:17] <nigelb> w00t user days!
[15:18] <paultag> brb
[15:18] <nigelb> 'lo czajkowski :)
[15:19] <czajkowski> seen the log on myname
[15:19]  * czajkowski wallops pa
[15:20] <czajkowski> paultag:
[15:20]  * nigelb wonders what czajkowski is talking about
[15:21] <qense> tree chopper!
[15:22] <czajkowski> log from yesterday in here  14:07
[15:22]  * nigelb goes to check
[15:23] <paultag> back
[15:23] <paultag> czajkowski: heyya sweetie :)
[15:23] <paultag> czajkowski: see now don't you feel bad for wolloping me?
[15:23] <czajkowski> paultag: no ~I ever feel bad for walloping you.  It;'s you for feck sake
[15:24] <nigelb> haha
[15:24] <paultag> hahaha
[15:37] <akgraner> Good Morning!
[15:38] <Pendulum> morning akgraner
[15:39] <akgraner> Pendulum, how are ya?
[15:39] <Pendulum> tired, but I just opened up a can of Dr Pepper so that should go away for a while ;-)
[15:40] <akgraner> :-)  I had visitors this week :-)  Now I am getting caught up on a million things
[15:40] <Pendulum> heh
[15:40]  * nigelb waves to akgraner 
[15:40] <Pendulum> akgraner: not going to attend User Day then? :P
[15:40] <nigelb> akgraner: you've learned the disappearing act finally! Its a relief :)
[15:40] <akgraner> hey nigelb I'll work on your interview something today
[15:40] <akgraner> sometime even
[15:40] <nigelb> heh
[15:42] <akgraner> nigelb, yeah - but now I feel a little guilty :-) so it's a trade off
[15:43] <Pendulum> akgraner: take the time for your self. you deserve it
[15:43] <nigelb> akgraner: NO! Its a good thing you're staying away for some time and getting rest.
[15:43] <nigelb> But if you're not taking rest, well, rather you spend the day in bed on IRC :p
[15:46] <akgraner> Oh it's just what happens when you get out of balance  - then figure out how to balance things back up - no biggie - I think it happens to everyone at some point...:-)
[15:47] <nigelb> heh :)
[16:52] <doctormo> pleia2: hello?
[17:02] <Pendulum> doctormo: I think she's still asleep
[17:02] <Pendulum> she only went to bed 6 hours ago
[17:18] <doctormo> ah ok
[17:18] <doctormo> everything going ok you think Pendulum?
[17:18] <IdleOne> session is going great dude
[17:31] <Pendulum> doctormo: yep :) btw, are you using classbot or do you need me to feed you questions?
[17:31] <doctormo> Pendulum: need feeding
[17:34] <doctormo> Pendulum: Can you get a list of all past questions?
[17:35] <Pendulum> yep
[17:35] <Pendulum> it gives me all questions starting with the oldest
[17:35] <Pendulum> do you want me to start feeding them now?
[17:36] <Pendulum> or do you want to wait and ask for questions at some point?
[17:36] <Pendulum> doctormo: ^^
[17:36] <doctormo> I'll have a set time in a few, thanks Pendulum
[17:36] <Pendulum> np
[17:47] <Pendulum> doctormo: no more questions in the queue, do you want to put out another call for questions?
[17:57] <vish> doctormo: in case you missed my ping last night: <vish> doctormo: apart from the ubuntu logo [the smaller one in the center] being rotated , looks neat!
[17:58] <vish> the rest of the logos are correctly positioned.. in the sense, not aligned to the vine , but this one is the only deviant..
[18:00] <doctormo> vish: Symbolism!
[18:00] <vish> heh ;p
[18:06] <vish> doctormo: hmm , are we allowed to rotate like that.. iirc we are not allowed under the guidelines..
[18:06] <vish> oh well..
[18:14] <doctormo> vish: I don't think so, but in this case it's not being used as a symbol trademark, it's being used in artwork and falls under fair use and other free speech protections.
[18:15] <paultag> doctormo, you can't alter something under fair use
[18:15] <paultag> unless it's for satire
[18:15] <vish> doctormo: well , its one of the guidelines "YOU MUST NOT... Place the brandmark at an angle"
[18:16] <vish> but i know squat about legalities :D
[18:16] <doctormo> paultag: Don't think think it's satire? I do.
[18:17] <qense> hello
[18:17]  * vish too fails to see the satire here ..
[18:17] <vish> if all the brands were at angles.... maybe.
[18:45] <nigelb> IdleOne: pick a number and stay there
[18:45] <IdleOne> :(
[18:45] <IdleOne> sorry
[18:46] <IdleOne> Why you yelling at me ?
[18:46] <IdleOne> I'm always nice to you and you yell at me :(
[18:46]  * IdleOne cries
[18:51] <doctormo> vish: Actually you don't think I'm making a statement about Ubuntu being off kilter to the rest of the community :-P
[18:52] <paultag> doctormo, well that would be satire
[18:52] <paultag> doctormo, eat your own words!
[18:52] <nigelb> IdleOne: haha
[18:52] <vish> IdleOne: nigelb is ol'yeller ;p
[18:52]  * nigelb kicks vish 
[18:52] <paultag> sounds like my ex-wife
[18:53] <paultag> heyo!
[18:53] <IdleOne> vish: you know what happened to ol' yeller right?
[18:53] <nigelb> IdleOne: he turned into you?
[18:54] <IdleOne> *growl* *bark* *growl*
[18:54] <vish> IdleOne: we can just tell nigelb he is being sent to a magical farm? :D
[18:54] <nigelb> hence proved
[18:55] <IdleOne> notice I did not bite
[18:55] <nigelb> barkin dogs dont bite
[18:57] <nigelb> IdleOne: heh, anyways, hows the weekend treating you
[18:57] <IdleOne> nigelb: slow start, still sitting here having coffee :)
[18:57] <doctormo> Hello nigelb
[18:57] <nigelb> heya doctormo
[18:57] <nigelb> how did the session go?
[18:58] <IdleOne> but got a msg from nhandler bout userdays and was like OH Cool!
[18:58] <nigelb> heh
[18:58] <nigelb> you wanna take a sesion?
[18:58] <IdleOne> me?
[18:58] <nigelb> yeah, why not
[18:58] <Pendulum> nigelb: you're evil :P
[18:58] <doctormo> nigelb: It went well I think, my wife woke me up 10 mins before the session so I was a bit panniked at the start.
[18:58] <IdleOne> you mean maco's sessions?
[18:58] <nigelb> IdleOne: yeah
[18:59] <IdleOne> honestly don't think I am ready.
[18:59] <nigelb> you're an OP
[18:59] <IdleOne> heh being an op and giving a session are very different
[19:00] <IdleOne> I'll be glad to help out and answer questions but would not want to lead the session
[19:00] <nigelb> haha
[19:00] <nigelb> IdleOne: I'll make you a deal
[19:00] <nigelb> I'll give you the text from last session
[19:01] <nigelb> just add some personalization and you can run with it
[19:01] <IdleOne> brb my usb coffee cup refiler upper device is broken
[19:01] <nigelb> usb coffee cup refiller? wow
[19:06] <IdleOne> nigelb: it is a imaginary device that I wish someone would invent
[19:06] <nigelb> IdleOne: ha
[19:06] <doctormo> nigelb: Get me $10k and I'll do it.
[19:06] <IdleOne> it would add to my lazyness but make me more productive on irc
[19:07] <IdleOne> doctormo: make it and I will get you 100K :)
[19:07] <nigelb> doctormo: I can get you $10 and you can imagine the k
[19:07] <IdleOne> nigelb: IF I agreed to do this session how much time do I have to prepare?
[19:07] <nigelb> Pendulum: what time is yours?
[19:08] <nigelb> its after yours right?
[19:08] <Pendulum> IdleOne: until 6 tonight
[19:08] <Pendulum> yeah
[19:08] <paultag> IdleOne, I have some notes
[19:08] <Pendulum> mine's 5-6 ET
[19:08] <paultag> IdleOne, I was putting stuff together if I was needed
[19:08] <paultag> IdleOne, I can forward it to you
[19:08] <IdleOne> See now if I say no I am going to feel bad.
[19:09] <nigelb> thats the trick
[19:09] <nigelb> we're all a team you see
[19:09] <paultag> aye
[19:09] <IdleOne> alright send me the info but if this turns to a disaster I am blaming nigelb
[19:09] <paultag> IdleOne, I can back you up on the session, but I'd rather not type for two hours straight
[19:09] <nigelb> IdleOne: it won't :)
[19:09] <IdleOne> two hours?
[19:10] <IdleOne> what?
[19:10] <paultag> IdleOne, let me dropbox it over. No real notes, just bullets of stuff to cover
[19:10] <IdleOne> this is a two hour session
[19:10] <nigelb> IdleOne: the seesion after is paultag 's
[19:10] <paultag> IdleOne, my session si the one after maco's
[19:10] <paultag> IdleOne, so I would have done two hours
[19:10] <IdleOne> oh
[19:10] <IdleOne> hehe
[19:10] <IdleOne> scared me
[19:10] <paultag> sec IdleOne
[19:11] <paultag> IdleOne, http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1202331/beginning-irc
[19:11] <paultag> that's actually a virus
[19:12] <nigelb> haha
[19:12] <IdleOne> your telling me
[19:12] <paultag> you should go to my session if you were not wary :3
[19:13] <pleia2> yeah, paultag's session last time was one of my favorites
[19:13] <paultag> Oh gee, thanks :D
[19:13]  * pleia2 uses it to smack people who claim linux is foolproofly secure
[19:13] <IdleOne> ugh I just bit off my own foot
[19:14] <paultag> pleia2, me too :)
[19:15] <paultag> pleia2, I whipped up a nice deb to mess with my buddy who was real "zomg linux is unbreakable, just try it!" two years back. I rooted his machine ( depended on sshd, and changed the root pw in the preinst )
[19:15] <pleia2> lol
[19:15] <paultag> pleia2, as soon as he smacked talked me again, I Just started opening porn on his display
[19:15] <paultag> export DISPLAY=:0.1
[19:15] <pleia2> nice
[19:15] <paultag> :)
[19:15] <paultag> she shaped up quickly
[19:16] <paultag> erm he
[19:16] <paultag> don't know how the s got in there
[19:17] <qense> paultag: export DISPLAY=:0.1 did the trick, probably
[19:17] <paultag> qense, yeah, and started firefox http://shady-url.com/shady-content.png
[19:17] <qense> That's the she
[19:17] <paultag> hurm?
[19:18] <qense> What you said earlier.
[19:19] <paultag> this is going right over my head, I typo'd "she"
[19:19] <paultag> he is a he, I think
[19:19] <vish> paultag: what was your session last time?
[19:19] <paultag> vish, same one as this year -- trusted software, where to find it, and why
[19:19] <vish> ah..
[19:20] <paultag> I've reworked some of my mistakes
[19:20] <paultag> I had slides and lots of fun examples
[19:20] <paultag> but I lost them two nights ago
[19:20] <vish> :s
[19:20] <paultag> work laptop was acting up, so I wiped it
[19:20] <paultag> d'oh!
[19:20] <IdleOne> ok working on this.
[19:20] <paultag> IdleOne, you just saved me :)
[19:21] <paultag> IdleOne, thank you
[19:21] <IdleOne> I might need to message you paultag for some info but I think I should be ok
[19:21] <paultag> sure thing IdleOne
[19:21] <nigelb> IdleOne: awesome.  thanks :)
[19:21]  * nigelb glares at vish
[19:21] <vish> pff..
[19:22] <vish> nigelb: i quote  <Pendulum> nigelb: you're evil :P
[19:22] <nigelb> vish: that's for a different reason
[19:22] <vish> nigelb: but still evil ;)
[19:23] <nigelb> my recruiting may be a bit aggresive but so what
[19:23] <nigelb> I get the results
[19:23] <nigelb> me and pleia2 filled up the calender pretty fast when we teamed up to do it
 qense: You're going to give an UserDay session or else a cute kitten will die!
[19:24] <qense> You blackmailed us!
[19:24] <paultag> Ha!
[19:24] <paultag> I was asked politely
[19:24] <nigelb> qense: haha
[19:24] <paultag> and as a result I said OK :)
[19:24] <pleia2> lol
[19:24] <nigelb> different people different tricks
[19:24] <nigelb> isn't that what sales and recruiting is all about
[19:25] <nigelb> for the record, I got vish to do a session at UDW
[19:25] <nigelb> so I still claim victory
[19:25] <vish> nigelb: i just think you are a bit scared of paultag  ;)
[19:25] <qense> nigelb should become salesperson!
[19:25] <nigelb> vish: nope.  paultag is nice.
[19:25] <nigelb> qense: nah.  I like developing way better.
[19:26] <vish> nigelb: for the record , mpt got me to do it ;)
[19:27] <paultag> vish, nigelb is scared of me
[19:27] <nigelb> vish: yes, I knew you wouldn't refuse that way
[19:27] <qense> vish: You're important!
[19:27] <nigelb> paultag: only when you talk about root-ing my system
[19:27] <paultag> vish, I watched nigelb come into the community, after all
[19:27] <paultag> nigelb, heh, you never know >:D
[19:28]  * nigelb remembers talking to paultag in #ubuntu-beginners-dev for the first time
[19:28] <paultag> :)
[19:31] <qense> Almost 10% of the Ubuntu Local communites Launchpad team seems to come from the Indian LoCo. :O
[19:31] <vish> nigelb: looks like a lot of indian names in the classroom this time
[19:32] <qense> yeah
[19:32] <qense> Ubuntu is really big in India, it seems.
[19:32] <qense> Tamil-Nadu is a large Ubuntu user, isn't it?
[19:32] <qense> You should do an Indian Ubuntu User Day!
[19:32] <vish> heh.
[19:32] <nigelb> which language? :p
[19:33] <nigelb> we'd have to do 22 differnt ones
[19:33] <vish> ha!
[19:33] <qense> English? :P
[19:33] <nigelb> well, this one is english
[19:33] <qense> Wait! There already is an English UbuntUserDay!
[19:33] <nigelb> I'm trying to get small events organized
[19:34] <nigelb> like an ubuntu hour last saturday of this month
[19:34] <qense> When I compared distributions using Google Trends the language that turned out to be most used when searching for Ubuntu was Indonesian.
[19:34] <vish> qense: usually there are a few indian folks in user days.. probably the ones this time are being more chatty
[19:34] <nigelb> there was good advertizzement in the loco channel
[19:34] <qense> vish: Most of the people that chatted during my talk seemed to be Indian.
[19:34] <vish> yeah.
[19:34] <vish> nigelb: did you get the mails about the yahoo event clash with the Ubuntu hr?
[19:35] <nigelb> vish: damn! what event? when?
[19:36] <vish> nigelb: read , the mailing list. there is a  Yahoo Open Hack event  , 24 and 25
[19:36] <vish> nigelb: some are asking for the dates to be shifted to 25
[19:36] <vish> date rather
[19:36] <nigelb> vish: 25 is weekday right?
[19:36] <vish> sunday i think
[19:36] <vish> yup
[19:37] <nigelb> I cant do sunday
[19:37] <nigelb> I guess next week then
[19:43] <nigelb> vish: re-sent
[19:43] <nigelb> vish: you wanna come down for a weekend?
[20:02] <doctormo> maco: Could you link the main wallpaper image to deviantArt too on your blog?
[20:03] <maco> doctormo: flickr gets not happy if you hotlink... am i able to hotlink from dA?
[20:03] <maco> er well, flickr's hotlink policy is "must link it back to flickr"
[20:11] <doctormo> maco: I'll host it on my blog if you like, I don't mind.
[20:11] <maco> ok
[20:14] <doctormo> maco: http://doctormo.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/uw-wallpaper-vine.png
[20:15] <maco> doctormo: link updated
[20:18] <pleia2> doctormo: will you be at the docs collab meeting in ~40 minutes over in #ubuntu-manual?
[20:20] <doctormo> pleia2: I should be
[20:20] <pleia2> ok cool
[20:23] <nigelb> pleia2: Pendulum: ok, im off for real now
[20:23] <pleia2> night nigelb :)
[20:23] <paultag> gtfo nigelb
[20:24] <paultag> nigelb, get sleep!!!!!
[20:24] <nigelb> paultag: haha, you alwys were brutal :p
[20:24] <paultag> nigelb, and so will you if you don't get sleep
[20:24] <nigelb> true
[20:50] <akgraner> popey, do you all from the EMEA membership board will send out the welcome to new members?  If it was sent I missed it sorry - but if it hasn't been sent I'd like to include it in UWN this weekend?
[21:49] <qense> I'm off, bye everyone!
[22:09] <paultag_> maco, poke
[22:11] <paultag_> maco, 01:00 UTC, DarkwingDuck just had a family emergency -- he was talking about KDE and GNOME with pleia2. Since IdleOne is covering your IRC session, can you make that?
[22:11] <maco> yeah i guess... does he have notes somewhere?
[22:11] <paultag_> maco, he said they were on paper :(
[22:12] <maco> does he have a scanner?
[22:12] <paultag_> maco, he just left, his father in law was in a bad car wreck
[22:12] <paultag_> maco, pleia2 will talk for 40 minutes, I'm sure. You should be able to freestyle :)
[22:12] <maco> oh ouch
[22:12] <maco> ok yeah
[22:23] <pleia2> hang on, I have the etherpad that I put together
[22:23] <pleia2> maco: just forwarded you my script with the parts that DD was supposed to handle
[22:23] <maco> ok
[22:24] <pleia2> maco: care to join #ubuntu-classroom-backstage ?
[22:45] <popey> akgraner: tbh we never have sent out announcements
[22:46] <popey> akgraner: i guess we should, I'll figure out who was approved this week and let you know
[22:47] <akgraner> popey, thank you!