[00:48] <maxwellian> Out of curiosity, what do people mean by "inline" patches?  Patches applied directly to the source, rather than saved in something like debian/patches?
[01:07] <ScottK> maxwellian: Yes.
[01:19] <maxwellian> ScottK: Thanks.  Presumably, it's better not to use inline patches if it can be avoided?
[01:49] <ScottK> maxwellian: It depends.  Generally if the Debian maintainer doesn't use a patch system we prefer not to add it.
[01:49] <ScottK> Beyond that, yes.
[01:52] <maxwellian> ScottK: Copy that, thanks.
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[05:39] <Damascene> hi,
[05:41] <Damascene> from time to time Ubuntu present you with update manager suggesting updating. updates are separated by importance. don't you think having a check box to enable/disable all the updates under each section?
[05:42] <Damascene> * would be a good Idea
[06:19] <corey__> I've got the command line installer going for 8.04 via usb on a system that has no cdrom. It's prompting me an error saying it has to have a cdrom loaded, what gives?
[06:19] <corey__> supplying a mount point of /dev/usb errors as well.
[06:22] <corey__> I seem to not be the only one with this issue. Any clever people with ideas?
[06:25] <ScottK> corey__: Did you make the usb image with usb-creator?
[06:25] <corey__> ScottK, Yes I did.
[06:26] <ScottK> Hmmm.  Dunno then.  Usually I hear that about images made with unetbootin.
[06:26] <ScottK> corey__: There are some releases where usb-creator-kde works better, you might try that.
[06:27] <corey__> ScottK, Really. You think it's the usb creator and not the distro?
[06:27] <ScottK> corey__: I don't know for sure.
[06:27] <corey__> If I switch to a busybox, could I map /dev/usb to /dev/cdrom?
[06:27] <ScottK> Alternatively, install 10.04.
[06:28] <corey__> ScottK, That solution will not work for an Artigo A2000 that supports only 8.04
[06:28] <ScottK> I don't know, I kind of doubt it would work.
[06:28] <ScottK> I see.
[06:29] <corey__> 8.04 Desktop Edition didn't even work properly when it came to displaying a graphical interface. It spewed corruption all over the place.
[06:29]  * ScottK is the wrong person to discuss that with.  It matches my general feeling about Gnome.
[06:29] <corey__> So naturally I went with the alt. cd image but (of course) I ran into another issue!
[06:30] <corey__> I've used gnome for years so I don't understand what you mean by that.
[06:30] <maco> Damascene: yes, that sounds like a good papercut to file
[06:31] <corey__> I also used KDE. For about 5 minutes. It was the worse desktop environment I've ever used.
[06:31]  * maco pats ScottK's wounded ego
[06:31] <ScottK> maco: It's the beauty of FOSS, there's choice.
[06:31] <maco> and choice is the beauty of kde ;-)
[06:32] <maco> when its not being horribly confusing
[06:32] <ScottK> That too.
[06:32]  * maco recalls not-fondly the first day using kde, going "SCOTT! whats THAT mean?"
[06:33] <gord> which one of these eight thousand buttons in my menu am i supoosed to press :( never really got past that with kde
[06:33] <corey__> lol @ using the menu
[07:42] <Damascene> maco, nice. should I open a bug about it?
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[07:44] <maco> Damascene: yes
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[08:49] <matrix> hello
[08:50] <Damascene> hey matrix
[08:50] <matrix> i want to be developer
[08:50] <matrix> ubuntu developer
[08:50] <matrix> what kind of programing language sould i learn ?
[08:54] <nigelb> !developer | matrix
[08:54] <ubottu> matrix: Want to become an Ubuntu developer? Look at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/processes/newdev and the Wiki (http://wiki.ubuntu.com) for involvement in specific projects such as Kubuntu or Xubuntu.
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[09:43] <hoare> guys I need help about creating initrd files by mkinitramfs.
[09:44] <hoare>  anyone has experience?
[10:32] <AnAnt> Hello, I need help with an apport script, I want to get the value of a config variable, so I did this:
[10:32] <AnAnt>     SLModemdDevice = command_output(['sh', '-c', '[ ! -r /etc/default/sl-modem-daemon ] || (. /etc/default/sl-modem-daemon ; echo $SLMODEMD_DEVICE)'])
[10:32] <AnAnt>  is that correct ?
[10:51] <Damascene> AnAnt, Salam
[10:52] <Damascene> I see you like sl-modem very much :)
[10:59] <AnAnt> Damascene: wa alaykom as-salamu wa rahmatu Ullahi wa barakatoh , I maintain it because my mom's laptop needs it, and it has been orphaned by previous maintainer
[11:21] <bdrung> is there something i can do to speedup bug #600626?
[11:21] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 600626 in testng (Ubuntu) "[MIR] testng" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/600626
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[12:23] <geser> bdrung: check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuMainInclusionRequirements and document it in the bug (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionProcess for the whole MIR process).
[13:15] <Dupper> Good morning!  You guys gotta be awful busy so I won't take much of your time,
[13:16] <Dupper> I just wanted to express praise/gratitude/amazement at how well this ubuntu thing works... I don't use it for networking or a server or anything special and it seems *much* nicer than windows
[13:16] <Dupper> You really hit it on this one(running 10.04 here)
[13:17] <directhex> offtopic!
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[14:56] <dupondje> http://ubuntu.dupondje.be/aptitude.debdiff => fix for aptitude ftbfs
[14:57] <ScottK> directhex: As long as it doesn't drift into cult of personality, I think a little praise it OK.
[14:57] <ScottK> ;-)
[15:03] <directhex> ScottK, ~we-love-pitti ?
[15:04] <ScottK> Arguably that's not cult of personality, just deserved.
[15:05] <directhex> ~dholbach-huggers ?
[15:06] <dupondje> fix aptituuuuude :p
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[15:58] <bdheeman> through 1.2.43 in the older series contain and bug; but we still only have version 1.2.42 of libpng even on lucid http://www.libpng.org/pub/png/libpng.html :(
[18:00] <smoser> Hi, Is there an archive admin around ?
[18:00] <smoser> I've added a new binary package 'legacy-grub-ec2' to 'cloud-init' source package, and I need to get it moved into the archive.
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[18:14] <smoser> I admit to not understanding what happens here, but I need 'grub-legacy-ec2' to move into the archive (build : https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cloud-init/0.5.12-0ubuntu5/+build/1862681 )
[18:14] <smoser> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+queue?queue_state=0&queue_text=cloud-init
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[18:45] <zaytsev> Hi ppl. Could you please tell me whether Debian arch wildcards are supported ATM?
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[18:47] <zaytsev> On PPA build for Lucid it said it can't resolve deps. Does Maverick support it already?
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