[00:07] <SpamapS> millerd: what do you mean by "all computers in the domain" ?
[00:08] <millerd> Say I had ubuntu server as a domain controller
[00:08] <SpamapS> millerd: most people use a configuration management solution for that
[00:08] <millerd> Could you give me an example?
[00:08] <SpamapS> millerd: domain controller meaning for DNS or for Windows domains?
[00:08] <millerd> DNS
[00:09] <SpamapS> millerd: ok for configuration management, Canonical (my employer) has Landscape that will let you control your servers via a web interface...
[00:09] <SpamapS> millerd: there's also some more heavy duty solutions like puppet and/or Chef
[00:12] <SpamapS> millerd: does that all make sense?
[00:12] <millerd> Yes
[00:13] <millerd> I've looked into Landscape before
[00:13] <millerd> Does one always have to purchase landscape as a service canonical provides?
[00:13] <SpamapS> millerd: well its a product of canonical.
[00:14] <SpamapS> millerd: you can also just setup ssh key access to all of your servers and use pssh
[00:15] <millerd> With that you could SSH into a large amount of computers at once?
[00:15] <SpamapS> millerd: apt-get install pssh ; parallel-ssh -h list_of_servers.txt "bash -c 'apt-get update && apt-get upgrade'"
[00:16] <millerd> ahhh okay
[00:16] <millerd> I'm really uneducated on the server side of things
[00:16] <millerd> The framework of DNS servers
[00:16] <millerd> and then I get confused between Ubuntu and Windows setups
[00:16] <millerd> I work for a department at the University of Washington
[00:17] <SpamapS> millerd: the idea of most unix/linux type things is to do one thing really well, and work by convention.. so most things work "the way you would expect" .. once you learn what to expect, it gets pretty easy
[00:18] <millerd> Wow Landscape looks amazing
[00:19] <millerd> I've never seen the UI before now
[00:21] <peeps[work]> is there a way I can limit the outbound bandwidth from a server to addresses outside of the LAN?  i need to upload a lot of things to external servers, but a saturated upload destroys all download speeds
[00:22] <peeps[work]> i'd like to limit it a little under the max to avoid affecting download speeds so much
[00:22] <SpamapS> peeps[work]: you need traffic shaping
[00:23] <peeps[work]> SpamapS, what app would you recommend for that?
[00:23] <SpamapS> peeps[work]: I haven't done it in a while, and the options seem to have grown quite  a bit. MasterShaper looks pretty nice though.
[00:24] <SpamapS> peeps[work]: apt-cache search 'shaper' produces a few options
[00:25] <osmosis> anyone know if this bug was fixed in the Lucid ABI 23 kernel that was pushed to lucid-updates?   https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/603799
[00:28] <axisys> how do I tell how many emails I have in this maildir ? http://pastie.org/1038305
[00:28] <axisys> ls new is taking forever to return an answer
[01:12] <b0gatyr> wondering why I can't partition a USB drive
[01:50] <iriedread> anyone here who is really familiar with vsftpd that can help me ? having problems with corrupted files upon finishing transfer
[02:00] <kozmund> I've dealt with vsftpd but haven't seen any corrupted files so...that's not helpful.
[02:06] <b0gatyr> humm weird, i have an 8GB flash drive created 2 partitions, first 1.5GB primary , second 4GB (EXT3), Trying to create 3rd one in the unallocated space as Fat32 or NTFS but when I create it windows doesnt read it any clues???
[03:10] <qman__> b0gatyr, because windows is dumb and can't handle that sort of thing
[03:11] <b0gatyr> yeah it sux , gave up on it already
[04:02] <CppIsWeird> any way to move things with a progress bar?
[04:12] <GhostFreeman> Is there any easy way to limit bandwidth to certain applications?
[04:19] <jmarsden> define "easy"?  There is the http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Adv-Routing-HOWTO/  but you can look at "easier" ways such as trickle ...
[04:26] <GhostFreeman> is trickle in universe?
[04:36] <jmarsden> GhostFreeman: Should be... let me look for it...
[04:36] <jmarsden> Yes, see http://packages.debian.org/lenny/trickle
[05:10] <GhostFreeman> I'm already using it, and it works nicely
[05:10] <GhostFreeman> thansk
[05:10] <GhostFreeman> thanks*
[05:13] <Lord_Devi> I've just installed Ubuntu 10.04 server for the first time here.. and it would appear something related to termcap or SOMETHING has changed. My up arrow no longer functions and backspace no longer functions. Is anyone aware of what I am talking about?
[05:14] <Lord_Devi> I should say, "and how to fix it?"
[05:14] <Lord_Devi> I've grown acustomed I must say to my up arrow and backspace..
[05:18] <osmosis> im stuck on   [error] Server should be SSL-aware but has no certificate configured [Hint: SSLCertificateFile] ((null):0)
[05:18] <CppIsWeird> are there any command line copy/move functions that have a progress bar of some sort?
[05:18] <osmosis> CppIsWeird, rsync
[05:18] <osmosis> CppIsWeird, rsync -Pav
[05:18] <CppIsWeird> heh, using rsync to copy and move everything would be a pain i think, no?
[05:19] <osmosis> CppIsWeird, pain?  i always use rsync for all copies. Im not even familiar with the unix cp command.
[05:19] <CppIsWeird> guess i could intercept the cp and mv commands and redirect them to rsync.
[05:19] <CppIsWeird> interesting.
[05:19] <osmosis> CppIsWeird, why not just type the extra 3 characters? rsync   not that big of a word
[05:19] <CppIsWeird> i guess i will start rsyncnig everything then.
[05:20] <osmosis> yah, i love rsync
[05:20] <CppIsWeird> rsync is 150% bigger than mv!
[05:20] <CppIsWeird> :P
[05:20] <osmosis> oh jeez
[05:20] <osmosis> yah, well i still use mv.  i just dont use cp
[05:20] <jmarsden> CppIsWeird: alias r=rsync   # There, now r is 50% smaller than mv :)
[05:20] <CppIsWeird> jmarsden wins marshmellows!
[05:21] <osmosis> im stuck on   [error] Server should be SSL-aware but has no certificate configured [Hint: SSLCertificateFile] ((null):0).  apache config help?
[05:21] <CppIsWeird> sounds to me like you need to register a certificate with your apache server
[05:24] <osmosis> CppIsWeird, ive done that as far as I can tell though
[05:25] <jmarsden> osmosis: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/httpd.html and read the section on HTTPS Configuration.  Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/certificates-and-security.html
[05:26] <osmosis> jmarsden, too bad those docs dont have anything on ssl with vhosts
[05:26] <jmarsden> Do you have it working on your default host already?
[05:27] <osmosis> jmarsden, i just figure out...it works on the default host. but if I enable a vhost, it fails with that error.
[05:28] <jmarsden> OK.  If you can handle a certificate name mismatch, you can probably just turn ssl on in each vhost; for per-vhost ssl, life is more fun, you need to use a different port for each vhost so each one can have a different certificate, as far I know.  or a different IP, if you have plenty of public IPs available to use.
[05:31] <osmosis> jmarsden, im just using one certificate though. multiple vhosts
[05:32] <osmosis> jmarsden, i have a working ubuntu 8.04 box running this way. just trying to get it working on my new 10.04 box.
[05:32] <jmarsden> Then you'll get name mismatch errors for all the vhosts whose names are different from the name on the certificate...
[05:32] <osmosis> jmarsden, thats okay...just some rarely used domains i need to have encrypted traffic on.
[05:33] <jmarsden> So... what is the issue?  Did you set up vhosts that use port 443 and that say ssl on and so forth?
[05:33] <jmarsden> Why not look hard at the 8.04 apache config files and use them as a basis for the 10.04 setup?
[05:34] <osmosis> jmarsden, if the config file worked the same I wouldnt have an issue. 10.04 behaves differently.
[05:34] <osmosis> yah, i have a vhost with  :443
[05:35] <osmosis> If i enable that ssl-vhost, i get    [error] Server should be SSL-aware but has no certificate configured [Hint: SSLCertificateFile] ((null):0).
[05:35] <osmosis> worked in 8.04 though
[05:35] <jmarsden> OK... I'll try it in a VM here... I don't think Apache can have changed *that* much between 8.04 and 10.04, can it??  Sounds like you need an SSlCertificateFile config line in each vhost?
[05:36] <osmosis> ill try moving the ssl directives into the vhost
[05:38] <osmosis> jmarsden, okay, that works now.
[05:38] <osmosis> jmarsden, yah...wasnt required in 8.04 though. strange.
[05:39] <jmarsden> Maybe someone is preparing for the new http spec where you *can* do different SSL certs in different vhosts??  I read something about that a while back, but forget the details...
[11:46] <ljungk> what's the difference between sending mail from an stmp server and what that server is doing when sending it to its destination server?
[11:56] <guntbert> ljungk: the intermediate smtp server is acting as a client to the destination server
[12:07] <ljungk> guntbert: okay, so there is no real difference?
[12:08] <ljungk> guntbert: in theory i could then manually connect to each mail server I want to send mail to?
[12:09] <guntbert> ljungk: in theory yes, in praxis smtp servers are choosy in from whom they accept mail for whom - you are likely to get something like "relaying denied"
[12:11] <ljungk> okay, even if i try to send only to users local on that server?
[12:16] <ljungk> and what do they base they choice on? authentication?
[12:16] <ljungk> *their
[13:05] <KnightStalker> Hello,How can I backup all of my Ubuntu in a way which I can install it via a bootable disk and it installs the current ubuntu I have without any changes(all settings and users and /bin should be saved and should be installed when I choosed to restore)
[13:06] <KnightStalker> I need it for my server so that in case of HDD/OS loss I still have a backup
[13:18] <ljungk> KnightStalker: You can use rsync to mirror your directories
[13:19] <KnightStalker> hmm I never used rsync,may I ask how to tell rsync to make backups?
[13:20] <ljungk> you give it to paths, possibly on remote machines and it will make the second one reflect the first. the man page is pretty good,
[13:20] <ljungk> *two
[13:23] <KnightStalker> hmm
[13:23] <KnightStalker> But that wont allow me to make bootable disks
[13:24] <KnightStalker> and for example if I reflect home folder and restore it later there will be permission problems
[13:24] <ljungk> why? rsync keeps track of ownership/permissions/times etc
[13:25] <ljungk> but no, it can't make a bootable disk.
[13:28] <ljungk> what I do is mirror the important directories (/home , /etc , /data + some parts of /usr ) and dump a package list (dpkg -l) then the system is pretty easily restored
[13:45] <klaas> whats the best option to install ubuntu on a new system with software raid5 and full encryption? does the alternate cd support that and which filesystem is the best to use for big raids (15tb)?
[14:20] <andol> klaas: Yes, both the server cd and the alternate cd will work, as both use the same Debian installer (just with different preseeds/defaults).
[15:28] <Fudge> hi i have an hp proliant 380 G4 and am trying to find a  package that will slow the fans down as its very loud. could someone please assist me or point me in the right direction?
[15:57] <Fudge> mm
[17:19] <jeeves_Moss> how can I burn a CD from the CLI from an ISO
[18:06] <smoser> kirkland`, are you around ?
[18:53] <Caer> I'm having login times to ssh on my server which go from 1s to 90s ; the system load is ~2 ; it mainly runs transmission at 50Mbit/s
[18:54] <Caer> I have tried ionice but it didn't improve, any idea?
[18:56] <Caer> I have changed the default DNS of my ISP to google's hoping that a reverse lookup was in cause but no
[18:59] <pmatulis> Caer: turn off transmission for a bit and see if it helps (assuming that app is causing the ~2 load; which, if constant, is pretty bad)
[19:00] <pmatulis> Caer: you can also run the ssh client in verbose mode and the server in foreground mode - keep both terminals side by side and observe
[19:01] <Caer> I will try with transmission off, the problem is that this time is random
[19:01] <Caer> and I can't touch the ssh server, I have no physical access. And transmission is certainly the reason for the load.
[19:04] <Caer> is a 4MB/s disk IO close a typical disk limit?
[19:08] <pmatulis> Caer: that sounds very low to me
[19:08] <pmatulis> Caer: re ssh, another option is to reduce niceness of sshd.  physical access desirable
[19:09] <Caer> reduce niceness actually improves response times right?
[19:10] <pmatulis> Caer: yes, -20 to +19 (smaller = higher priority)
[19:11] <pmatulis> Caer: 'man nice'
[19:11] <Caer> anyway I can restart the server remotely, sshd shouldn't worry me
[19:11] <Caer> thanks for the fish pmatulis
[19:11] <pmatulis> Caer: yet another option is to somehow implement QOS on a f/w
[19:12] <pmatulis> Caer: giving higher priority to SSH traffic
[19:12] <pmatulis> Caer: finally, upgrade your cpu and/or ram
[19:13] <Caer> i haven't done QoS yet but I should ; how does it interact with ionice?
[19:13] <Caer> never mind tcp is probably not considered as IO
[19:14] <pmatulis> Caer: supply top output for a more informed analysis
[19:14] <jpds> What kind of machine is this?
[19:17] <Caer> dell xs11-vx8 for French ISP 'online.net'
[19:50] <Caer> pmatulis: allright I was a fool to suppose transmission was not the only problem, thank you!
[21:14] <glen1> what is a cloud? is it a marketing term for server?
[21:28] <Caer> glen1: marketing for a group of (eventually cheap) servers, distributing a service
[21:40] <Caer> beuh j'ai aucun film à voir
[21:40] <Caer> vous auriez pas des titres sous la langue ? ou une série marrante ?
[22:06] <glen1> Caer, so its just a server? haha im talking to you from the cloud!
[22:41] <DUEDAHL> can somebody recommend a video surveillance software? it should support ip-cams
[22:45] <qman__> DUEDAHL, zoneminder
[22:47] <DUEDAHL> im not able to download their liveCD
[23:00] <Bjelleklang> hi guys, have there been any reports of server install hanging when trying to configure the apt sources? Have tried server ISO as well as the alternative one
[23:04] <guntbert> Bjelleklang: network is configured correctly?
[23:05] <Bjelleklang> yeah
[23:07] <Bjelleklang> can try installing without network though just to check
[23:15] <guntbert> Bjelleklang: you can always switch to a different virtual console (alt+left, alt+right) to find a screen where you can see what is actually going on, or you can run the install without the splash screen at all
[23:15] <Bjelleklang> ah, nice one
[23:16] <Bjelleklang> trying again now, will see what happens
[23:16] <guntbert> Bjelleklang: in the boot menu press F6, esc to edit the boot line, remove "quiet" and "splash"
[23:20] <makish> Leker lite med DHCP server och behöver lite hjälp...får det inte riktigt o lira...
[23:22] <guntbert> !se | makish
[23:23] <guntbert> makish: english please in this channel
[23:23] <makish> sorry ...realized i was in the wron channel..=)
[23:23] <makish> wrong
[23:23] <guntbert> makish: :)
[23:25] <makish> guntbert, im sitting and playing around with the DHCP server in ubuntu but im not getting it to work...=) fallowed this guide http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-and-configure-dhcp-server-in-ubuntu-server.html
[23:37] <Bjelleklang> looks like it's working now, might have been a bad cd-rom
[23:46] <Psi-Jack> Hmmm
[23:47] <Psi-Jack> migrationtools package seems to be missing the migrate_common.ph entirely.
[23:47] <Psi-Jack> And when I create it and set $DEFAULT_BASE, it doesn't even utilize it. heh