/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/07/10/#ubuntu-sugarteam.txt

dipankardfarning, hello.03:09
dipankarlfaraone, hello03:10
dfarningdipankar, good morning03:10
lfaraonedipankar: hi.03:10
dipankardfarning, good evening  :)03:10
dipankarlfaraone, did you get a chance to review the flipsticks?03:11
lfaraonedipankar: not yet, apologies, I'm behind today03:11
dipankarlfaraone, no worries. I tried them myself.03:12
lfaraonedipankar: are all of the acitivties you packaged up to date?03:12
lfaraonedipankar: iirc there is a newer Log out.03:13
dipankarlfaraone, in flipsticks, the some files seem to have got modified somehow03:13
dipankarlfaraone, just a sec I am pasting the debian/changelog03:14
dipankarlfaraone, http://paste.ubuntu.com/461383/03:16
dipankarlfaraone, see at lines 36, 42, 48;03:16
dipankardfarning, it would be great if you could help too. You might have faced this similar problem :)03:22
lfaraonedipankar: i think I edited the changelog in one of my commits.03:23
lfaraonedipankar: and you did too before you pulled.03:23
dipankarlfaraone, I went through the 'fast-forwarding' section in man page of git push03:23
dipankarlfaraone, I guess yes03:23
dfarningdipankar, a simple merge conflict.  just delete the unwanted line manually and recommit.03:24
lfaraonedipankar: is log ready for review or should I wait?03:24
dipankarlfaraone, I got confused with the log. Since the activity name was 'logviewer' initially,03:24
lfaraonedipankar: well, it's not a problem. just create a new changelog entry with "sugar-log-activity" and change all other mentions of logviewer to log. (but not in older entries of debian/changelog)03:25
lfaraonedfarning: can you do "/mode -t #ubuntu-sugarteam" so I can change the topic?03:26
lfaraonedfarning: you may need to "/msg ChanServ op dfarning" first.03:27
dipankarlfaraone, so here is what I should do then:03:28
lfaraone(NB: current review queue s-flip-a, s-poll-a, s-connect-a)03:28
dipankar- use git-import-orig -u '23' PATH/TO/ORIG TARBALL03:28
dfarninglfaraone,   - You are not authorized to perform this operation.03:28
dipankar- Make a new debian/changelog03:29
lfaraonedipankar: /msg ChanServ op dfarning #sugarteam03:29
dipankar^^ not for me03:29
dipankarI guess03:29
lfaraone* dfarning03:29
dfarningChannel dfarning is not registered.03:29
lfaraonedfarning: swap the #sugarteam and dfarning then :)03:30
lfaraonedfarning: my IRC-fu is weak.03:30
dfarningdipankar, see http://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/user-manual.html#resolving-a-merge03:30
lfaraonedfarning: yep. although this may be a good time to write the debian/watch file so you can automate the package download phase.03:30
dipankar^^ That was for me I guess03:31
lfaraonedipankar: hehe, yes.03:31
lfaraonedipankar: this is a test of your agility. :P03:31
lfaraonedipankar: but seriously, here's an example of a watch file: http://git.debian.org/?p=users/ffm-guest/sugar-terminal-activity.git;a=blob;f=debian/watch;03:31
dfarninglfaraone,  I think I might have to log on from my desktop.03:32
lfaraonedipankar: rather, http://git.debian.org/?p=collab-maint/sugar-terminal-activity.git;a=blob;f=debian/watch03:32
dipankarlfaraone, so, if I add the new repository to watch file, then the updating would take automatically??03:33
dipankar* new repo -> sugarlabs one.03:33
lfaraonedipankar: I mean the download location, at http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/fructose/Log/03:34
dipankarlfaraone, * I meant download location. Just accidentally used 'repo'03:35
lfaraonedipankar: if you replace the URL  in the watch file example I gave you with "http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/fructose/Log/Log-(.*)\.tar\.bz2" then you can run "uscan --force-download --rename" and it'll automatically fetch the latest version and put it in ..03:35
dipankarlfaraone, now I am again confused :(03:36
dipankarlfaraone, which process should I use : watch file or creating a new local repository?03:36
lfaraonedipankar: if there are upstream release tarballs that are current (more recent or at the same level as) compared to what's in git, we prefer tarballs over git-built tarballs using get-orig-source.03:37
lfaraone*prefer upstream release tarballs03:38
dipankarlfaraone, ok.03:39
dipankarlfaraone, that means we take up the 'watch' files menthod03:39
dipankarlfaraone, you are here till 0000 hrs I guess.03:41
lfaraonedipankar: probably.03:41
dipankarlfaraone, I will be back in 15.03:42
* dipankar is away: I'm not here03:42
* dipankar is back (gone 00:05:29)03:47
dipankarlfaraone, I seem to have screwed up my local repo for log.03:48
dipankarlfaraone, will it be good to clone the repo from git alioth to a new directory?03:48
lfaraonedipankar: sure.03:48
dipankarlfaraone, btw I couldn't understand the git pull --rebase. Could you explain it a bit? will be of great help.03:49
lfaraonedipankar: sorry, I've never had to use it.03:50
dipankarlfaraone, actually I found it in the merge conflicts help. Never mind :P03:51
dipankarlfaraone, in the watch file : shall I change the 'version=3' to 'version=23'?04:03
lfaraonedipankar: nonono.04:03
lfaraonedipankar: "version=" tells uscan which version of the uscan policy the watch file complies to.04:03
dipankarlfaraone, ohk. I thought other way. :P so, each time it would take the latest upstream tar ball?04:04
dipankarlfaraone, do I need to change the debian/changelog too before running the uscan command : '  Parameters are then  read  from  those04:07
dipankar       control files and upstream ftp or http sites are inspected for newly available updates (as compared with04:07
dipankar       the upstream version number retrieved from the debian/changelog file in the same directory).'04:07
dipankar??04:07
lfaraonedipankar: no, you don't.04:16
lfaraonedipankar: but uscan is used by automated tools such as DEHS <http://dehs.alioth.debian.org/> to determine whether Debian packages are up to date.04:17
lfaraonedfarning: Poll reviewed.04:17
dfarninglfaraone, great04:17
dipankarlfaraone, ran uscan. what should be the next step?04:18
lfaraonedipankar: in http://git.debian.org/?p=collab-maint/sugar-flipsticks-activity.git;a=commitdiff;h=345139af686507595e3a4e2863f643d7498933a3 , you changed debian/control directly, rather than debian/control.in. That means your changes will get lost when somebody regenerates debian/control from debian/control.in.04:18
dipankarlfaraone, ohk.04:19
dipankarlfaraone, so thats where the problem lies.04:20
lfaraonedipankar: also, your commit message was "Rectified debian/control", but you modified a number of other files. In the future, please try to ensure that each change is in a separate commit.04:20
lfaraonedipankar: same with "changed : debian/copyright, debian/docs, debian/rules". Not only does that contain more than one logical change per commit, the description tells me nothing about what you actually did.04:21
lfaraonedipankar: commit messages are supposed to inform people as to what you did, not to what you did it.04:21
dipankarlfaraone, ohk. Will keep that in mind. Sorry for this mistake :(04:22
lfaraonedipankar: not a problem, just telling you so you'll know in the future.04:22
lfaraonedipankar: also, I noticed on line 74 of http://git.debian.org/?p=collab-maint/sugar-flipsticks-activity.git;a=blob;f=debian/rules#l74 you said "rm -f debian/sugar-flipsticks-activity/usr/share/activities/FlipSticks.activity"04:22
lfaraonedipankar: this removed the entire FlipSticks.activity directory from the resulting package, and is almost certainly not what you want. Perhaps you meant "rm -f debian/sugar-flipsticks-activity/usr/share/activities/FlipSticks.activity/COPYING"?04:23
lfaraonedipankar: let me know if you'd rather I bundle this up in an email, I thought it just might be easier to tell you via IRC since there were only a few things.04:23
dipankarlfaraone, I left out so many things!04:25
lfaraonedipankar: huh?04:25
lfaraonedipankar: what was your question about log?04:32
dipankarlfaraone, logviewer-activity: I ran uscan and have the upstream tar ball04:33
dipankarlfaraone, how should I proceed now?04:33
lfaraonedipankar: import it, push up, and I'll review it if you think it's ready for review.04:34
dipankarlfaraone, what about the debian/changelog? You mentioned something about that04:34
lfaraonedipankar: yeah, you want to increment the debian revision with a new changelog entry. "dch -v NEW_VERSION-1" and say "initial upload to debian. Closes: BUGNUMBER" or something similar.04:36
dipankarlfaraone, and the import command will be : git-import-orig?04:36
lfaraonedipankar: oh, before you import, rename the package to "sugar-log-activity" in debian/control. create the new changelog entry as I said, and change the package name in the first changelog entry too.04:37
lfaraonedipankar: and rename the tarball you downloaded from sugar-logviewer-activity_VERSION.orig.tar.gz to sugar-log-activity_VERSION.orig.tar.gz.04:37
dipankarlfaraone, is it control.in or control? (I have to be careful with this from now on)04:38
lfaraonedipankar: sorry, control.in.04:38
dipankarlfaraone, :P. Now I remember. In hurry I followed the irc logs and saw 'change debian/control' that caused the problem :P04:39
dipankarlfaraone, Anything else before I continue?04:39
dipankar* I have to leave in 20 minutes to somewhere.04:39
lfaraonedipankar: I don't think so. Just do that *before* you import the New Upstream Version.04:39
dipankarlfaraone, I will email you when I am ready for review. You will find it in the morning (EST) only :)04:40
lfaraonemk.04:41
dipankarlfaraone, good night. I must leave.04:42
dipankardfarning, goodnight.04:42
* dipankar says goodbye to all.04:42
dfarningdipankar, good night04:42
lfaraonebye dipankar04:42
dfarninglfaraone, I am going to head to bed so I can get up early.04:45
lfaraonedfarning: good i dea.04:45
kandarpklfaraone: Hi05:37
kandarpklfaraone: thanks for the review, will make necessary amends and push the package soon05:38
lfaraonekandarpk: cool. I'll look at the other activity in my tomrorow.05:39
kandarpklfaraone: sure, and thanks again05:39
kandarpklfaraone: I'll try to correct that package first then05:40
manusheelkandarpk: Hi Kandarp.08:27
kandarpkmanusheel sir: Hello sir08:28
manusheelkandarpk: Could you please summarize the updates for the last 24 hours.08:28
kandarpkmanusheel sir: I've pushed poll-activity and connect-activity08:29
kandarpklfaraone has reviewed the poll-activity, so right now making the necessary amends08:29
manusheelkandarpk: Ok, great.08:29
kandarpkhe'll review the connect-activity when he gets back08:30
manusheelkandarpk: Great, Kandarp.08:31
kandarpklfaraone: around ?09:11
kandarpkdipankar: around ?10:12
dipankarkandarpk, yes, hi10:12
dipankarkandarpk, I was just working on the review that Luke sent.10:13
kandarpkdipankar: how can I import changes that Luke has made ?10:13
dipankarkandarpk, just go to your local repo and use : git pull <git+ssh://..>10:17
kandarpkok10:17
kandarpkdipankar, will it update all the files ?10:18
dipankarkandarpk, it will pull in changes and merge your current files with the updated onces.10:19
kandarpkdipankar: ok, thanks10:20
dipankarkandarpk, ni problem.10:20
dipankar*no10:20
kandarpkdipankar: and how can I undo changes ?10:21
kandarpk*I've made some changes before updating10:22
dipankarkandarpk, I don't remember that correctly, It was like ' rm git add' something like that.<Unless you have committed the changes10:23
kandarpkdipankar: ok. I'll leave now. will be back in 45 min.10:24
kandarpkdipankar: around ?12:25
dipankarkandarpk, yup12:25
dipankarkandarpk, I am stuck with a bad situation :(12:26
kandarpkwhat does "all lines in the package description should be wrapped at 72 characters." mean ?12:26
dipankar*s/with/in12:26
kandarpkdipankar: oh, whats that ?12:26
dipankarkandarpk, that means when you are writing description in control.in file, each line should contain 72 characters. But there can be any number of lines.12:27
kandarpkdipankar: exactly 72 or can it be lesser than this ?12:27
dipankarkandarpk, can be less than that :)12:28
kandarpkohk :)12:28
kandarpkwhat are you stuck with ?12:28
dipankarkandarpk, can you please tell me the command of git-import-orig? I was getting an error related branch settings. :(12:28
kandarpkgit-import-orig --pristine-tar -u ''87'' sugar-read-activity_87.orig.tar.gz12:29
kandarpkdipankar: what error are you getting ?12:29
dipankaroops, I was missing the pristine-tar tag :P12:32
dipankarkandarpk, here is the error:12:33
dipankarRepository does not have branch 'upstream' for upstream sources. If there is none see12:33
dipankarfile:///usr/share/doc/git-buildpackage/manual-html/gbp.import.html#GBP.IMPORT.CONVERT12:33
dipankaron howto create it otherwise use --upstream-branch to specify it.12:33
kandarpkdipankar: you need to run "git rm sugar-abc-activity_28.orig.tar.gz"12:34
kandarpkafter git-import-orig12:34
dipankarkandarpk, that error is when I run the git-import-orig command12:35
kandarpkoh, yes12:35
kandarpkI too got this error sometimes12:35
kandarpkdid you try importing aain ?12:36
dipankarkandarpk, :). I have tried making new local git repos12:36
dipankarnothing is working :(12:36
kandarpkdipankar: were there any errors while running fakeroot debian/rules get-orig-source12:37
dipankarnope12:38
dipankarkandarpk, this is very confusing :(12:42
dipankarkandarpk, here is some info related to the command http://honk.sigxcpu.org/projects/git-buildpackage/manual-html/gbp.import.html12:42
dipankarlfaraone, you around?12:56
dfarninggood morning all13:14
dipankardfarning, Good Morning. You seem to be in very good mood :)13:15
dfarningdipankar, Yep.  I just woke up, poured a cup of coffee, and turned on IRC.  The first thing I saw was that 18 Users are logged in #ubuntu-sugarteam13:18
dipankardfarning, :)13:19
* dipankar will be back in 1013:19
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dipankardfarning, any idea when lfaraone will be around?13:35
dfarningin 1.5 hours13:36
dipankardfarning, I need your help on the problem of git-import-orig13:37
dipankardfarning, here is the error:13:37
dipankardipankar@dipankar-laptop:~/work20/sugar-log-activity$ git-import-orig --pristine-tar -u ''23'' ~/work20/sugar-log-activity_23.orig.tar.bz213:37
dipankarRepository does not have branch 'upstream' for upstream sources. If there is none see13:37
dipankarfile:///usr/share/doc/git-buildpackage/manual-html/gbp.import.html#GBP.IMPORT.CONVERT13:37
dipankaron howto create it otherwise use --upstream-branch to specify it.13:37
dfarningdipankar, I be back in a few minutes13:37
dipankardfarning, sure13:39
kandarpkdfarning: good morning13:43
dfarningkandarpk, good morning - I am on the phone -- will be back shortly:)13:44
kandarpk*will be back in 60 min.13:44
* dipankar is away: I'm not here13:48
* dipankar is back (gone 00:58:56)14:46
kandarpkall: memorize-activity - up and running :)15:57
kandarpkneeraj: I've build memorize-activity :)15:57
neerajsir did u faced that error?15:58
neerajI was unable to find the cause for it?15:58
neerajkandarpk, or I was making some stupid mistake :(15:58
* lfaraone pops his head up. Anything going on?15:58
kandarpkneeraj: lfaraone work-around helped15:59
lfaraoneneeraj: what was "the error"?15:59
kandarpkI renamed the version to 34+git20091021.837e6c6b15:59
kandarpkand followed all the other steps as usual16:00
neerajkandarpk, please explain version number16:00
kandarpklfaraone: I'll push it once it is a bit refined :)16:01
neerajlfaraone, lemme open previous log and find the paste bin link :)16:01
kandarpkneeraj: it contains of two parts16:01
kandarpk20091021=2009/10/21 (yyyy/mm/dd)16:01
kandarpkdate on which last commit was applied16:02
kandarpk837e6c6b=commit ID16:02
kandarpkneeraj: please see here:16:03
kandarpkhttp://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/memorize/repos/mainline16:03
kandarpkfor commit details16:03
neerajkandarpk, ok :)16:06
neerajlfaraone, this was the error which i faced even after running git rm <package name>.orig tarball file16:08
neerajhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/460367/16:08
kandarpklfaraone: sugar-memorize-activity.git exists16:17
kandarpklfaraone: what should I do now ?16:18
satellit__note I just installed USR20100628 on a 8 GB USB then drag dropped firefox-6 from ASLO and it works fine.....(experimental)16:18
kandarpksatellit__: thanks for reporting16:20
satellit__nice replacement for browse....full firefox...16:21
kandarpksatellit__: I'll to give it a try :)16:22
satellit__http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Soas_V4/ASLOxo_Activity_Test_Table   will test some more applicaions16:22
satellit__ASLO: have to search and use password for firefox16:22
satellit__http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/ASLOxo-3ss.iso  has all of them on .iso put on USB and drag drop into sugar journal16:24
satellit__kandarpk: I use sugar-emulator -f as command for full screen of sugar...16:28
satellit__kandarpk using sugar-emulator -f for full screen sugar should be standard setup....(an idea)16:33
kandarpk*I'll be back in 45 min16:42
ankurneeraj,  are you here16:42
ankur?16:42
neerajankur, yes16:43
ankurdo you know something about tagging?16:43
ankurwell i am having a problem and i searched about it16:43
ankurit seems that it can be solved by tagging16:43
neerajankur, sorry, i don't have ny idea about it. ;(16:44
ankuri think kandarp was also having same kind of prob some day back16:44
ankurnever mind :)16:44
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manusheelkandarpk: Hi Kandarp. Around?17:05
manusheel_lfaraone: Hi Luke. Around?17:10
dfarninghello kandarpk17:46
manusheel_dfarning: Hi David.17:47
dfarningDo you have a question regarding memorize?17:47
dfarningmanusheel_, hello17:47
manusheel_dfarning: Kandarp just send an e-mail to you and Luke.17:47
manusheel_kandarpk: around?17:48
kandarpkdfarning: hi17:48
manusheel_kandarpk: Let us discuss the question soon.17:48
kandarpkdfarning: I had build thememorize activity17:48
kandarpkbut memorize.git repo. is already present17:49
kandarpkhttp://git.debian.org/?p=collab-maint/sugar-memorize-activity.git;a=summary17:49
dfarningkandarpk, I would suggest deleting the existing memorize activity and replacing it with your own.17:49
kandarpkdfarning: can I do that ?17:49
kandarpkit was made by some one else17:49
dfarningkandarpk, I belive that you have full read write autohrizte on all collab-maint projects?17:50
kandarpkdfarning: will it be ok to delete someone else's work ?17:51
kandarpk*though the last commit was in 200817:51
dfarningsince the package is so old, it does not use the recent packaging methods as the rest of sugar.17:51
kandarpkok17:52
kandarpkdfarning: should I go on and delete the repo17:53
kandarpk?17:53
kandarpk*if I have rights to do that17:53
dfarningSince the package is so old, it can be considered abandoned.  I wouldn't suggest just deleting it.... but deleting it replacing it with a more recent version is good:)17:53
kandarpkok17:54
kandarpkdfarning, manusheel_ sir : replaced17:56
dfarningkandarpk, great. another one for the review queue.17:57
kandarpkdfarning: its owner is still Patrick Winnertz ?17:57
kandarpkdfarning: that will take some time17:58
kandarpk*copyright file takes time17:58
dfarningkandarpk, yes, that wen page probobly only refreshes every couple of minutes.17:59
kandarpkdfarning: ok, I'll wait.17:59
dfarningYes, the copy right is critical though.18:00
manusheel_dfarning. Kandarp is also working on - Delete sugar-activities from the ppa and remove sugar-activities as a dependancy so sugar can be installed and tested without sugar-activites being installed.18:01
satellit__dfarning: I have USR20100628 on 8 GB USB drag dropped firefox-6 .xo from ASLO and it works fine....18:01
manusheel_kandarpk: Any questions on this task?18:01
dfarningkandarpk, we are providing/sell USR to schools, school districts, and ministries of education.... we want to be 100% confident of the ownership of what we ship.18:02
satellit__also OooKids18:02
kandarpkhow do we proceed with removing sugar-activity dependency18:02
dfarningsatellit__, that is great.18:02
satellit__nice workaround for browse with full tabed browsing18:03
kandarpkdfarning: how can we know which modules are required by sugar18:04
kandarpk*modules which are present in sugar-activities18:04
dfarningkandarpk, I belive that you will need to remove sugar-activities as a dependency in debian/control in the ubuntu-sugar-remix in the ppa.18:04
kandarpkdfarning: will sugar work without installing sugar-activities ?18:06
dfarningsatellit__, As activity central we are focusing on improving browse.  Via Lucian's conversion to webkit and adding tabs.18:06
satellit__ok Ooo4kids is nice also though large .xo18:06
dfarningkandarpk, we will have to install the activities by hand when working from the ppa.18:07
dfarningsatellit__, Yes, based on your reminder, I need to take a closer look at ooo4kids.18:07
kandarpkdfarning: what purpose does removing sugar-activities from dependency list solve, if we need to install it anyway ?18:08
satellit__very nice can configure it for easy thru advanced menus18:08
satellit__http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Soas_V4/ASLOxo_Activity_Test_Table  details drag-drop .xo files for sugar18:10
dfarningkandarpk, Currently if we install the full collection of activites via sugar activites.  We run into problems when install the .dep packages of the activities we are currently working on.18:10
dfarningkandarpk, if two different packages try to install the same file dpkg gives an error.18:10
kandarpkhmmm18:10
dfarningkandarpk, what we will do is create a meta package called sugar-activities.  Which installs the activities we have packaged as proper .deb packages.18:12
kandarpkdfarning: getting some idea18:13
dfarningkandarpk, we want to stop pulling in the activity bundle I made a couple of months ago and only automatically install the proper packages after they have passed lukes review and QA18:15
kandarpkdfarning: ok, you mean we are breaking the activities bundle into smaller single activity18:16
dfarningkandarpk, exactly.18:17
kandarpkok18:17
neerajdfarning, after breaking the activity bundle, will we still push it into ppa only or start pushing them on debian repository only18:22
dfarningneeraj, we will start syncing packages from debian into the ppa.18:23
neerajdfarning, ok..18:24
kandarpkdfarning: who is the author of memorize-activity ?18:38
dfarningkandarpk, sorry I will look.18:42
dfarninggreat.18:42
dfarninghttp://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/memorize18:46
dfarningkandarpk, looks like erikos18:46
kandarpkdfarning: Ok.18:47
kandarpkdfarning: the owner of memorize is still Patrick Winnertz18:49
kandarpkshould I delete again ?18:49
kandarpkI think I didn't delete the directory18:49
dfarningkandarpk, yes.18:50
kandarpkok18:50
dfarningneeraj, how are you doing?18:53
kandarpkdfarning: to remove sugar-activity from dependency, we just need to modify control file19:04
kandarpk?19:04
dfarningkandarpk, yes19:04
kandarpkdfarning: any package build required after that ?19:04
dfarningkandarpk, since it is in the ppa all you will have to do is dput it and launchpad will take care of the rest.19:05
kandarpkdfarning: ok.19:05
kandarpk*logging into USR19:16
kandarpkdfarning: which package should I use ?19:36
kandarpksugar-0.88 - 0.88.1-2ubuntu3+maverick19:36
kandarpkor19:36
kandarpksugar-0.88 - 0.88.1-2ubuntu319:37
dfarningkandarpk, the second one. maverick is ubuntu 10.1019:38
kandarpkok19:38
kandarpkdfarning: do I need to modify the rules file, as there is no direct listing of activities in control file ?20:01
dfarningwhich package are you looking at?20:01
kandarpksugar-0.88_0.88.1-2ubuntu320:02
dfarningkandarpk, the sugar-activites package is listed as a depandcy in the Ubuntu-sugar-remix package20:04
kandarpkdfarning: ohk20:04
neerajdfarning, Hi, for dropping the sugar-activities, we have to only remove it from depends filed in debian/control file of usr mera package or we have to make ny change in rules file?20:30
dfarningI  think just the debian/control20:31
neerajActually both me and kandarpk sir are little confused..20:31
dfarningneeraj, yes,20:32
neerajOk, also can you please re-explain why we made changes in the rule file while dropping sucrose..20:32
neerajI just got that we are changing it because while installing sugar,sucrose package was installing read and browse activity which were/are un-available20:33
neerajwish I had used the seeta channel while discussing this :)20:34
neerajhad not*20:34
dfarningneeraj, can I get back to you in a few minutes.  I am on the phone. ping me if I forget:)20:38
neerajok :)20:40
dfarningneeraj, ok back.20:54
dfarningneeraj, one reason this is confusing is that we are work in two repositories Debian and our ppa:(20:56
dfarningneeraj, initially we had to remove read and write from sucrose because they are broken in Ubuntu.20:57
neerajok20:58
dfarningneeraj, but becuause I want to provide the seeta developers with some sample activites, I created the bundle,  Now that we have a good understand in packaging, we can start individually add the .debs (which work) as dependanciesas20:58
dfarningneeraj, s/want/wanted/21:00
dfarningneeraj, does that help?21:00
neerajdfarning, yes I guess i am getting it..21:01
neerajSo in debian read is working fine.. also browse to.. ain't they?21:02
dfarningneeraj, I don't think so.  As for browse we are in the process of rewriting it upstream to remove the dependency on xulrunner which was the problem.21:04
dfarningneeraj, I have not dug into the problem with read yet.21:05
neerajdfarning, ok..21:06
dfarningneeraj, sometimes there are differences between ubuntu and debian due to the differences in the release cycle.21:06
dfarningneeraj, ubuntu 9.10 was a long term release meaning Canonical promises to support it for three years.  debian is currently in the development phase.21:07
dfarningneeraj, because of questions/problems with the future of xulrunner.  Ubuntu decided to drop it in favor of webkit.21:08
neerajdfarning, ok, thanks for telling this :)21:10
dfarningneeraj, in this case debian is progressing in a normal evolutionary process.... where as ubuntu had to make a decision/guess about the state of xulrunner three years from now.21:10
dfarningneeraj, glad it helped.21:11

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