[03:09] <dipankar> dfarning, hello.
[03:10] <dipankar> lfaraone, hello
[03:10] <dfarning> dipankar, good morning
[03:10] <lfaraone> dipankar: hi.
[03:10] <dipankar> dfarning, good evening  :)
[03:11] <dipankar> lfaraone, did you get a chance to review the flipsticks?
[03:11] <lfaraone> dipankar: not yet, apologies, I'm behind today
[03:12] <dipankar> lfaraone, no worries. I tried them myself.
[03:12] <lfaraone> dipankar: are all of the acitivties you packaged up to date?
[03:13] <lfaraone> dipankar: iirc there is a newer Log out.
[03:13] <dipankar> lfaraone, in flipsticks, the some files seem to have got modified somehow
[03:14] <dipankar> lfaraone, just a sec I am pasting the debian/changelog
[03:16] <dipankar> lfaraone, http://paste.ubuntu.com/461383/
[03:16] <dipankar> lfaraone, see at lines 36, 42, 48;
[03:22] <dipankar> dfarning, it would be great if you could help too. You might have faced this similar problem :)
[03:23] <lfaraone> dipankar: i think I edited the changelog in one of my commits.
[03:23] <lfaraone> dipankar: and you did too before you pulled.
[03:23] <dipankar> lfaraone, I went through the 'fast-forwarding' section in man page of git push
[03:23] <dipankar> lfaraone, I guess yes
[03:24] <dfarning> dipankar, a simple merge conflict.  just delete the unwanted line manually and recommit.
[03:24] <lfaraone> dipankar: is log ready for review or should I wait?
[03:24] <dipankar> lfaraone, I got confused with the log. Since the activity name was 'logviewer' initially,
[03:25] <lfaraone> dipankar: well, it's not a problem. just create a new changelog entry with "sugar-log-activity" and change all other mentions of logviewer to log. (but not in older entries of debian/changelog)
[03:26] <lfaraone> dfarning: can you do "/mode -t #ubuntu-sugarteam" so I can change the topic?
[03:27] <lfaraone> dfarning: you may need to "/msg ChanServ op dfarning" first.
[03:28] <dipankar> lfaraone, so here is what I should do then:
[03:28] <lfaraone> (NB: current review queue s-flip-a, s-poll-a, s-connect-a)
[03:28] <dipankar> - use git-import-orig -u '23' PATH/TO/ORIG TARBALL
[03:28] <dfarning> lfaraone,   - You are not authorized to perform this operation.
[03:29] <dipankar> - Make a new debian/changelog
[03:29] <lfaraone> dipankar: /msg ChanServ op dfarning #sugarteam
[03:29] <dipankar> ^^ not for me
[03:29] <dipankar> I guess
[03:29] <lfaraone> * dfarning
[03:29] <dfarning> Channel dfarning is not registered.
[03:30] <lfaraone> dfarning: swap the #sugarteam and dfarning then :)
[03:30] <lfaraone> dfarning: my IRC-fu is weak.
[03:30] <dfarning> dipankar, see http://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/user-manual.html#resolving-a-merge
[03:30] <lfaraone> dfarning: yep. although this may be a good time to write the debian/watch file so you can automate the package download phase.
[03:31] <dipankar> ^^ That was for me I guess
[03:31] <lfaraone> dipankar: hehe, yes.
[03:31] <lfaraone> dipankar: this is a test of your agility. :P
[03:31] <lfaraone> dipankar: but seriously, here's an example of a watch file: http://git.debian.org/?p=users/ffm-guest/sugar-terminal-activity.git;a=blob;f=debian/watch;
[03:32] <dfarning> lfaraone,  I think I might have to log on from my desktop.
[03:32] <lfaraone> dipankar: rather, http://git.debian.org/?p=collab-maint/sugar-terminal-activity.git;a=blob;f=debian/watch
[03:33] <dipankar> lfaraone, so, if I add the new repository to watch file, then the updating would take automatically??
[03:33] <dipankar> * new repo -> sugarlabs one.
[03:34] <lfaraone> dipankar: I mean the download location, at http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/fructose/Log/
[03:35] <dipankar> lfaraone, * I meant download location. Just accidentally used 'repo'
[03:35] <lfaraone> dipankar: if you replace the URL  in the watch file example I gave you with "http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/fructose/Log/Log-(.*)\.tar\.bz2" then you can run "uscan --force-download --rename" and it'll automatically fetch the latest version and put it in ..
[03:36] <dipankar> lfaraone, now I am again confused :(
[03:36] <dipankar> lfaraone, which process should I use : watch file or creating a new local repository?
[03:37] <lfaraone> dipankar: if there are upstream release tarballs that are current (more recent or at the same level as) compared to what's in git, we prefer tarballs over git-built tarballs using get-orig-source.
[03:38] <lfaraone> *prefer upstream release tarballs
[03:39] <dipankar> lfaraone, ok.
[03:39] <dipankar> lfaraone, that means we take up the 'watch' files menthod
[03:41] <dipankar> lfaraone, you are here till 0000 hrs I guess.
[03:41] <lfaraone> dipankar: probably.
[03:42] <dipankar> lfaraone, I will be back in 15.
[03:42]  * dipankar is away: I'm not here
[03:47]  * dipankar is back (gone 00:05:29)
[03:48] <dipankar> lfaraone, I seem to have screwed up my local repo for log.
[03:48] <dipankar> lfaraone, will it be good to clone the repo from git alioth to a new directory?
[03:48] <lfaraone> dipankar: sure.
[03:49] <dipankar> lfaraone, btw I couldn't understand the git pull --rebase. Could you explain it a bit? will be of great help.
[03:50] <lfaraone> dipankar: sorry, I've never had to use it.
[03:51] <dipankar> lfaraone, actually I found it in the merge conflicts help. Never mind :P
[04:03] <dipankar> lfaraone, in the watch file : shall I change the 'version=3' to 'version=23'?
[04:03] <lfaraone> dipankar: nonono.
[04:03] <lfaraone> dipankar: "version=" tells uscan which version of the uscan policy the watch file complies to.
[04:04] <dipankar> lfaraone, ohk. I thought other way. :P so, each time it would take the latest upstream tar ball?
[04:07] <dipankar> lfaraone, do I need to change the debian/changelog too before running the uscan command : '  Parameters are then  read  from  those
[04:07] <dipankar>        control files and upstream ftp or http sites are inspected for newly available updates (as compared with
[04:07] <dipankar>        the upstream version number retrieved from the debian/changelog file in the same directory).'
[04:07] <dipankar> ??
[04:16] <lfaraone> dipankar: no, you don't.
[04:17] <lfaraone> dipankar: but uscan is used by automated tools such as DEHS <http://dehs.alioth.debian.org/> to determine whether Debian packages are up to date.
[04:17] <lfaraone> dfarning: Poll reviewed.
[04:17] <dfarning> lfaraone, great
[04:18] <dipankar> lfaraone, ran uscan. what should be the next step?
[04:18] <lfaraone> dipankar: in http://git.debian.org/?p=collab-maint/sugar-flipsticks-activity.git;a=commitdiff;h=345139af686507595e3a4e2863f643d7498933a3 , you changed debian/control directly, rather than debian/control.in. That means your changes will get lost when somebody regenerates debian/control from debian/control.in.
[04:19] <dipankar> lfaraone, ohk.
[04:20] <dipankar> lfaraone, so thats where the problem lies.
[04:20] <lfaraone> dipankar: also, your commit message was "Rectified debian/control", but you modified a number of other files. In the future, please try to ensure that each change is in a separate commit.
[04:21] <lfaraone> dipankar: same with "changed : debian/copyright, debian/docs, debian/rules". Not only does that contain more than one logical change per commit, the description tells me nothing about what you actually did.
[04:21] <lfaraone> dipankar: commit messages are supposed to inform people as to what you did, not to what you did it.
[04:22] <dipankar> lfaraone, ohk. Will keep that in mind. Sorry for this mistake :(
[04:22] <lfaraone> dipankar: not a problem, just telling you so you'll know in the future.
[04:22] <lfaraone> dipankar: also, I noticed on line 74 of http://git.debian.org/?p=collab-maint/sugar-flipsticks-activity.git;a=blob;f=debian/rules#l74 you said "rm -f debian/sugar-flipsticks-activity/usr/share/activities/FlipSticks.activity"
[04:23] <lfaraone> dipankar: this removed the entire FlipSticks.activity directory from the resulting package, and is almost certainly not what you want. Perhaps you meant "rm -f debian/sugar-flipsticks-activity/usr/share/activities/FlipSticks.activity/COPYING"?
[04:23] <lfaraone> dipankar: let me know if you'd rather I bundle this up in an email, I thought it just might be easier to tell you via IRC since there were only a few things.
[04:25] <dipankar> lfaraone, I left out so many things!
[04:25] <lfaraone> dipankar: huh?
[04:32] <lfaraone> dipankar: what was your question about log?
[04:33] <dipankar> lfaraone, logviewer-activity: I ran uscan and have the upstream tar ball
[04:33] <dipankar> lfaraone, how should I proceed now?
[04:34] <lfaraone> dipankar: import it, push up, and I'll review it if you think it's ready for review.
[04:34] <dipankar> lfaraone, what about the debian/changelog? You mentioned something about that
[04:36] <lfaraone> dipankar: yeah, you want to increment the debian revision with a new changelog entry. "dch -v NEW_VERSION-1" and say "initial upload to debian. Closes: BUGNUMBER" or something similar.
[04:36] <dipankar> lfaraone, and the import command will be : git-import-orig?
[04:37] <lfaraone> dipankar: oh, before you import, rename the package to "sugar-log-activity" in debian/control. create the new changelog entry as I said, and change the package name in the first changelog entry too.
[04:37] <lfaraone> dipankar: and rename the tarball you downloaded from sugar-logviewer-activity_VERSION.orig.tar.gz to sugar-log-activity_VERSION.orig.tar.gz.
[04:38] <dipankar> lfaraone, is it control.in or control? (I have to be careful with this from now on)
[04:38] <lfaraone> dipankar: sorry, control.in.
[04:39] <dipankar> lfaraone, :P. Now I remember. In hurry I followed the irc logs and saw 'change debian/control' that caused the problem :P
[04:39] <dipankar> lfaraone, Anything else before I continue?
[04:39] <dipankar> * I have to leave in 20 minutes to somewhere.
[04:39] <lfaraone> dipankar: I don't think so. Just do that *before* you import the New Upstream Version.
[04:40] <dipankar> lfaraone, I will email you when I am ready for review. You will find it in the morning (EST) only :)
[04:41] <lfaraone> mk.
[04:42] <dipankar> lfaraone, good night. I must leave.
[04:42] <dipankar> dfarning, goodnight.
[04:42]  * dipankar says goodbye to all.
[04:42] <dfarning> dipankar, good night
[04:42] <lfaraone> bye dipankar
[04:45] <dfarning> lfaraone, I am going to head to bed so I can get up early.
[04:45] <lfaraone> dfarning: good i dea.
[05:37] <kandarpk> lfaraone: Hi
[05:38] <kandarpk> lfaraone: thanks for the review, will make necessary amends and push the package soon
[05:39] <lfaraone> kandarpk: cool. I'll look at the other activity in my tomrorow.
[05:39] <kandarpk> lfaraone: sure, and thanks again
[05:40] <kandarpk> lfaraone: I'll try to correct that package first then
[08:27] <manusheel> kandarpk: Hi Kandarp.
[08:28] <kandarpk> manusheel sir: Hello sir
[08:28] <manusheel> kandarpk: Could you please summarize the updates for the last 24 hours.
[08:29] <kandarpk> manusheel sir: I've pushed poll-activity and connect-activity
[08:29] <kandarpk> lfaraone has reviewed the poll-activity, so right now making the necessary amends
[08:29] <manusheel> kandarpk: Ok, great.
[08:30] <kandarpk> he'll review the connect-activity when he gets back
[08:31] <manusheel> kandarpk: Great, Kandarp.
[09:11] <kandarpk> lfaraone: around ?
[10:12] <kandarpk> dipankar: around ?
[10:12] <dipankar> kandarpk, yes, hi
[10:13] <dipankar> kandarpk, I was just working on the review that Luke sent.
[10:13] <kandarpk> dipankar: how can I import changes that Luke has made ?
[10:17] <dipankar> kandarpk, just go to your local repo and use : git pull <git+ssh://..>
[10:17] <kandarpk> ok
[10:18] <kandarpk> dipankar, will it update all the files ?
[10:19] <dipankar> kandarpk, it will pull in changes and merge your current files with the updated onces.
[10:20] <kandarpk> dipankar: ok, thanks
[10:20] <dipankar> kandarpk, ni problem.
[10:20] <dipankar> *no
[10:21] <kandarpk> dipankar: and how can I undo changes ?
[10:22] <kandarpk> *I've made some changes before updating
[10:23] <dipankar> kandarpk, I don't remember that correctly, It was like ' rm git add' something like that.<Unless you have committed the changes
[10:24] <kandarpk> dipankar: ok. I'll leave now. will be back in 45 min.
[12:25] <kandarpk> dipankar: around ?
[12:25] <dipankar> kandarpk, yup
[12:26] <dipankar> kandarpk, I am stuck with a bad situation :(
[12:26] <kandarpk> what does "all lines in the package description should be wrapped at 72 characters." mean ?
[12:26] <dipankar> *s/with/in
[12:26] <kandarpk> dipankar: oh, whats that ?
[12:27] <dipankar> kandarpk, that means when you are writing description in control.in file, each line should contain 72 characters. But there can be any number of lines.
[12:27] <kandarpk> dipankar: exactly 72 or can it be lesser than this ?
[12:28] <dipankar> kandarpk, can be less than that :)
[12:28] <kandarpk> ohk :)
[12:28] <kandarpk> what are you stuck with ?
[12:28] <dipankar> kandarpk, can you please tell me the command of git-import-orig? I was getting an error related branch settings. :(
[12:29] <kandarpk> git-import-orig --pristine-tar -u ''87'' sugar-read-activity_87.orig.tar.gz
[12:29] <kandarpk> dipankar: what error are you getting ?
[12:32] <dipankar> oops, I was missing the pristine-tar tag :P
[12:33] <dipankar> kandarpk, here is the error:
[12:33] <dipankar> Repository does not have branch 'upstream' for upstream sources. If there is none see
[12:33] <dipankar> file:///usr/share/doc/git-buildpackage/manual-html/gbp.import.html#GBP.IMPORT.CONVERT
[12:33] <dipankar> on howto create it otherwise use --upstream-branch to specify it.
[12:34] <kandarpk> dipankar: you need to run "git rm sugar-abc-activity_28.orig.tar.gz"
[12:34] <kandarpk> after git-import-orig
[12:35] <dipankar> kandarpk, that error is when I run the git-import-orig command
[12:35] <kandarpk> oh, yes
[12:35] <kandarpk> I too got this error sometimes
[12:36] <kandarpk> did you try importing aain ?
[12:36] <dipankar> kandarpk, :). I have tried making new local git repos
[12:36] <dipankar> nothing is working :(
[12:37] <kandarpk> dipankar: were there any errors while running fakeroot debian/rules get-orig-source
[12:38] <dipankar> nope
[12:42] <dipankar> kandarpk, this is very confusing :(
[12:42] <dipankar> kandarpk, here is some info related to the command http://honk.sigxcpu.org/projects/git-buildpackage/manual-html/gbp.import.html
[12:56] <dipankar> lfaraone, you around?
[13:14] <dfarning> good morning all
[13:15] <dipankar> dfarning, Good Morning. You seem to be in very good mood :)
[13:18] <dfarning> dipankar, Yep.  I just woke up, poured a cup of coffee, and turned on IRC.  The first thing I saw was that 18 Users are logged in #ubuntu-sugarteam
[13:19] <dipankar> dfarning, :)
[13:19]  * dipankar will be back in 10
[13:19]  * dipankar is away: I'm not here
[13:19]  * dipankar is back (gone 00:00:02)
[13:20]  * dipankar is away: I'm not here
[13:33]  * dipankar is back (gone 00:13:31)
[13:35] <dipankar> dfarning, any idea when lfaraone will be around?
[13:36] <dfarning> in 1.5 hours
[13:37] <dipankar> dfarning, I need your help on the problem of git-import-orig
[13:37] <dipankar> dfarning, here is the error:
[13:37] <dipankar> dipankar@dipankar-laptop:~/work20/sugar-log-activity$ git-import-orig --pristine-tar -u ''23'' ~/work20/sugar-log-activity_23.orig.tar.bz2
[13:37] <dipankar> Repository does not have branch 'upstream' for upstream sources. If there is none see
[13:37] <dipankar> file:///usr/share/doc/git-buildpackage/manual-html/gbp.import.html#GBP.IMPORT.CONVERT
[13:37] <dipankar> on howto create it otherwise use --upstream-branch to specify it.
[13:37] <dfarning> dipankar, I be back in a few minutes
[13:39] <dipankar> dfarning, sure
[13:43] <kandarpk> dfarning: good morning
[13:44] <dfarning> kandarpk, good morning - I am on the phone -- will be back shortly:)
[13:44] <kandarpk> *will be back in 60 min.
[13:48]  * dipankar is away: I'm not here
[14:46]  * dipankar is back (gone 00:58:56)
[15:57] <kandarpk> all: memorize-activity - up and running :)
[15:57] <kandarpk> neeraj: I've build memorize-activity :)
[15:58] <neeraj> sir did u faced that error?
[15:58] <neeraj> I was unable to find the cause for it?
[15:58] <neeraj> kandarpk, or I was making some stupid mistake :(
[15:58]  * lfaraone pops his head up. Anything going on?
[15:59] <kandarpk> neeraj: lfaraone work-around helped
[15:59] <lfaraone> neeraj: what was "the error"?
[15:59] <kandarpk> I renamed the version to 34+git20091021.837e6c6b
[16:00] <kandarpk> and followed all the other steps as usual
[16:00] <neeraj> kandarpk, please explain version number
[16:01] <kandarpk> lfaraone: I'll push it once it is a bit refined :)
[16:01] <neeraj> lfaraone, lemme open previous log and find the paste bin link :)
[16:01] <kandarpk> neeraj: it contains of two parts
[16:01] <kandarpk> 20091021=2009/10/21 (yyyy/mm/dd)
[16:02] <kandarpk> date on which last commit was applied
[16:02] <kandarpk> 837e6c6b=commit ID
[16:03] <kandarpk> neeraj: please see here:
[16:03] <kandarpk> http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/memorize/repos/mainline
[16:03] <kandarpk> for commit details
[16:06] <neeraj> kandarpk, ok :)
[16:08] <neeraj> lfaraone, this was the error which i faced even after running git rm <package name>.orig tarball file
[16:08] <neeraj> http://paste.ubuntu.com/460367/
[16:17] <kandarpk> lfaraone: sugar-memorize-activity.git exists
[16:18] <kandarpk> lfaraone: what should I do now ?
[16:18] <satellit__> note I just installed USR20100628 on a 8 GB USB then drag dropped firefox-6 from ASLO and it works fine.....(experimental)
[16:20] <kandarpk> satellit__: thanks for reporting
[16:21] <satellit__> nice replacement for browse....full firefox...
[16:22] <kandarpk> satellit__: I'll to give it a try :)
[16:22] <satellit__> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Soas_V4/ASLOxo_Activity_Test_Table   will test some more applicaions
[16:22] <satellit__> ASLO: have to search and use password for firefox
[16:24] <satellit__> http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/ASLOxo-3ss.iso  has all of them on .iso put on USB and drag drop into sugar journal
[16:28] <satellit__> kandarpk: I use sugar-emulator -f as command for full screen of sugar...
[16:33] <satellit__> kandarpk using sugar-emulator -f for full screen sugar should be standard setup....(an idea)
[16:42] <kandarpk> *I'll be back in 45 min
[16:42] <ankur> neeraj,  are you here
[16:42] <ankur> ?
[16:43] <neeraj> ankur, yes
[16:43] <ankur> do you know something about tagging?
[16:43] <ankur> well i am having a problem and i searched about it
[16:43] <ankur> it seems that it can be solved by tagging
[16:44] <neeraj> ankur, sorry, i don't have ny idea about it. ;(
[16:44] <ankur> i think kandarp was also having same kind of prob some day back
[16:44] <ankur> never mind :)
[17:05] <manusheel> kandarpk: Hi Kandarp. Around?
[17:10] <manusheel_> lfaraone: Hi Luke. Around?
[17:46] <dfarning> hello kandarpk
[17:47] <manusheel_> dfarning: Hi David.
[17:47] <dfarning> Do you have a question regarding memorize?
[17:47] <dfarning> manusheel_, hello
[17:47] <manusheel_> dfarning: Kandarp just send an e-mail to you and Luke.
[17:48] <manusheel_> kandarpk: around?
[17:48] <kandarpk> dfarning: hi
[17:48] <manusheel_> kandarpk: Let us discuss the question soon.
[17:48] <kandarpk> dfarning: I had build thememorize activity
[17:49] <kandarpk> but memorize.git repo. is already present
[17:49] <kandarpk> http://git.debian.org/?p=collab-maint/sugar-memorize-activity.git;a=summary
[17:49] <dfarning> kandarpk, I would suggest deleting the existing memorize activity and replacing it with your own.
[17:49] <kandarpk> dfarning: can I do that ?
[17:49] <kandarpk> it was made by some one else
[17:50] <dfarning> kandarpk, I belive that you have full read write autohrizte on all collab-maint projects?
[17:51] <kandarpk> dfarning: will it be ok to delete someone else's work ?
[17:51] <kandarpk> *though the last commit was in 2008
[17:51] <dfarning> since the package is so old, it does not use the recent packaging methods as the rest of sugar.
[17:52] <kandarpk> ok
[17:53] <kandarpk> dfarning: should I go on and delete the repo
[17:53] <kandarpk> ?
[17:53] <kandarpk> *if I have rights to do that
[17:53] <dfarning> Since the package is so old, it can be considered abandoned.  I wouldn't suggest just deleting it.... but deleting it replacing it with a more recent version is good:)
[17:54] <kandarpk> ok
[17:56] <kandarpk> dfarning, manusheel_ sir : replaced
[17:57] <dfarning> kandarpk, great. another one for the review queue.
[17:57] <kandarpk> dfarning: its owner is still Patrick Winnertz ?
[17:58] <kandarpk> dfarning: that will take some time
[17:58] <kandarpk> *copyright file takes time
[17:59] <dfarning> kandarpk, yes, that wen page probobly only refreshes every couple of minutes.
[17:59] <kandarpk> dfarning: ok, I'll wait.
[18:00] <dfarning> Yes, the copy right is critical though.
[18:01] <manusheel_> dfarning. Kandarp is also working on - Delete sugar-activities from the ppa and remove sugar-activities as a dependancy so sugar can be installed and tested without sugar-activites being installed.
[18:01] <satellit__> dfarning: I have USR20100628 on 8 GB USB drag dropped firefox-6 .xo from ASLO and it works fine....
[18:01] <manusheel_> kandarpk: Any questions on this task?
[18:02] <dfarning> kandarpk, we are providing/sell USR to schools, school districts, and ministries of education.... we want to be 100% confident of the ownership of what we ship.
[18:02] <satellit__> also OooKids
[18:02] <kandarpk> how do we proceed with removing sugar-activity dependency
[18:02] <dfarning> satellit__, that is great.
[18:03] <satellit__> nice workaround for browse with full tabed browsing
[18:04] <kandarpk> dfarning: how can we know which modules are required by sugar
[18:04] <kandarpk> *modules which are present in sugar-activities
[18:04] <dfarning> kandarpk, I belive that you will need to remove sugar-activities as a dependency in debian/control in the ubuntu-sugar-remix in the ppa.
[18:06] <kandarpk> dfarning: will sugar work without installing sugar-activities ?
[18:06] <dfarning> satellit__, As activity central we are focusing on improving browse.  Via Lucian's conversion to webkit and adding tabs.
[18:06] <satellit__> ok Ooo4kids is nice also though large .xo
[18:07] <dfarning> kandarpk, we will have to install the activities by hand when working from the ppa.
[18:07] <dfarning> satellit__, Yes, based on your reminder, I need to take a closer look at ooo4kids.
[18:08] <kandarpk> dfarning: what purpose does removing sugar-activities from dependency list solve, if we need to install it anyway ?
[18:08] <satellit__> very nice can configure it for easy thru advanced menus
[18:10] <satellit__> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Soas_V4/ASLOxo_Activity_Test_Table  details drag-drop .xo files for sugar
[18:10] <dfarning> kandarpk, Currently if we install the full collection of activites via sugar activites.  We run into problems when install the .dep packages of the activities we are currently working on.
[18:10] <dfarning> kandarpk, if two different packages try to install the same file dpkg gives an error.
[18:10] <kandarpk> hmmm
[18:12] <dfarning> kandarpk, what we will do is create a meta package called sugar-activities.  Which installs the activities we have packaged as proper .deb packages.
[18:13] <kandarpk> dfarning: getting some idea
[18:15] <dfarning> kandarpk, we want to stop pulling in the activity bundle I made a couple of months ago and only automatically install the proper packages after they have passed lukes review and QA
[18:16] <kandarpk> dfarning: ok, you mean we are breaking the activities bundle into smaller single activity
[18:17] <dfarning> kandarpk, exactly.
[18:17] <kandarpk> ok
[18:22] <neeraj> dfarning, after breaking the activity bundle, will we still push it into ppa only or start pushing them on debian repository only
[18:23] <dfarning> neeraj, we will start syncing packages from debian into the ppa.
[18:24] <neeraj> dfarning, ok..
[18:38] <kandarpk> dfarning: who is the author of memorize-activity ?
[18:42] <dfarning> kandarpk, sorry I will look.
[18:42] <dfarning> great.
[18:46] <dfarning> http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/memorize
[18:46] <dfarning> kandarpk, looks like erikos
[18:47] <kandarpk> dfarning: Ok.
[18:49] <kandarpk> dfarning: the owner of memorize is still Patrick Winnertz
[18:49] <kandarpk> should I delete again ?
[18:49] <kandarpk> I think I didn't delete the directory
[18:50] <dfarning> kandarpk, yes.
[18:50] <kandarpk> ok
[18:53] <dfarning> neeraj, how are you doing?
[19:04] <kandarpk> dfarning: to remove sugar-activity from dependency, we just need to modify control file
[19:04] <kandarpk> ?
[19:04] <dfarning> kandarpk, yes
[19:04] <kandarpk> dfarning: any package build required after that ?
[19:05] <dfarning> kandarpk, since it is in the ppa all you will have to do is dput it and launchpad will take care of the rest.
[19:05] <kandarpk> dfarning: ok.
[19:16] <kandarpk> *logging into USR
[19:36] <kandarpk> dfarning: which package should I use ?
[19:36] <kandarpk> sugar-0.88 - 0.88.1-2ubuntu3+maverick
[19:36] <kandarpk> or
[19:37] <kandarpk> sugar-0.88 - 0.88.1-2ubuntu3
[19:38] <dfarning> kandarpk, the second one. maverick is ubuntu 10.10
[19:38] <kandarpk> ok
[20:01] <kandarpk> dfarning: do I need to modify the rules file, as there is no direct listing of activities in control file ?
[20:01] <dfarning> which package are you looking at?
[20:02] <kandarpk> sugar-0.88_0.88.1-2ubuntu3
[20:04] <dfarning> kandarpk, the sugar-activites package is listed as a depandcy in the Ubuntu-sugar-remix package
[20:04] <kandarpk> dfarning: ohk
[20:30] <neeraj> dfarning, Hi, for dropping the sugar-activities, we have to only remove it from depends filed in debian/control file of usr mera package or we have to make ny change in rules file?
[20:31] <dfarning> I  think just the debian/control
[20:31] <neeraj> Actually both me and kandarpk sir are little confused..
[20:32] <dfarning> neeraj, yes,
[20:32] <neeraj> Ok, also can you please re-explain why we made changes in the rule file while dropping sucrose..
[20:33] <neeraj> I just got that we are changing it because while installing sugar,sucrose package was installing read and browse activity which were/are un-available
[20:34] <neeraj> wish I had used the seeta channel while discussing this :)
[20:34] <neeraj> had not*
[20:38] <dfarning> neeraj, can I get back to you in a few minutes.  I am on the phone. ping me if I forget:)
[20:40] <neeraj> ok :)
[20:54] <dfarning> neeraj, ok back.
[20:56] <dfarning> neeraj, one reason this is confusing is that we are work in two repositories Debian and our ppa:(
[20:57] <dfarning> neeraj, initially we had to remove read and write from sucrose because they are broken in Ubuntu.
[20:58] <neeraj> ok
[20:58] <dfarning> neeraj, but becuause I want to provide the seeta developers with some sample activites, I created the bundle,  Now that we have a good understand in packaging, we can start individually add the .debs (which work) as dependanciesas
[21:00] <dfarning> neeraj, s/want/wanted/
[21:00] <dfarning> neeraj, does that help?
[21:01] <neeraj> dfarning, yes I guess i am getting it..
[21:02] <neeraj> So in debian read is working fine.. also browse to.. ain't they?
[21:04] <dfarning> neeraj, I don't think so.  As for browse we are in the process of rewriting it upstream to remove the dependency on xulrunner which was the problem.
[21:05] <dfarning> neeraj, I have not dug into the problem with read yet.
[21:06] <neeraj> dfarning, ok..
[21:06] <dfarning> neeraj, sometimes there are differences between ubuntu and debian due to the differences in the release cycle.
[21:07] <dfarning> neeraj, ubuntu 9.10 was a long term release meaning Canonical promises to support it for three years.  debian is currently in the development phase.
[21:08] <dfarning> neeraj, because of questions/problems with the future of xulrunner.  Ubuntu decided to drop it in favor of webkit.
[21:10] <neeraj> dfarning, ok, thanks for telling this :)
[21:10] <dfarning> neeraj, in this case debian is progressing in a normal evolutionary process.... where as ubuntu had to make a decision/guess about the state of xulrunner three years from now.
[21:11] <dfarning> neeraj, glad it helped.