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Caeltehi00:24
holsteinCaelte: hello00:25
Caelteis there anyway to stop the system from using my browsers proxy settings?00:25
holsteinhmmm00:26
holsteinim not sure about that00:26
holsteinyou might want to try #ubuntu-beginners00:26
holsteinwhats the issue?00:26
holsteinyou use a proxy?00:26
holsteinand you want just the browser to bypass it?00:26
Caeltewell I run a proxy in my browser for surfing00:27
Caeltebut the whole system seems to use the proxy00:27
holsteinthats not working for you?00:27
holsteinagain, im really not sure00:28
holsteinbut00:28
Caelteso my system doesn't access the internet properly because it's a password protected proxy00:28
holsteini was thining you would have to set that system wide00:28
holsteinand if you used a browser plugin00:28
holsteinfoxyproxy?00:28
CaelteI just want to surf with some anonymity00:29
holsteinthat would be only the browser00:29
Caelteswitch proxy for chrome, but the same idea as foxy00:29
Caelteand yes, you would think it would only change the browser but it changes system wide00:30
holsteinhave you tried it in firefox?00:30
Caelteno00:30
holsteinim wondering if that not just the way chrome does it00:30
CaelteI don't use firefox00:31
holsteinyeah, me neither00:31
holsteinmight be worth a try in the spirit of trouble shooting00:31
CaelteI'll try the beginner channel, thanks holstein00:31
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rebirthi am having trouble installing ubuntu studio. i've downloaded the iso and mounted it with gmount, but i can't figure out what to do next09:53
rebirthdo i  need to boot from a cd to install?10:01
brianmcWhat would be the best tool in UbuntuStudio to guess at beats per min from acoustic guitar+vocals?11:10
ScottLbrianmc, you could use a metrenome13:33
* brianmc runs screaming in horror as he is reminded of Bowie's Laughing Gnome13:34
ScottLbrianmc, a metronome reminds you of Bowie's Laughing Gnome ?13:36
brianmcGo listen to it, there's a bit in the lyrics... "What's that noise?" "It's Fred, he's a metro-Gnome"13:37
ScottLah, lol, i'll have to do that :)14:16
Zeu5hi there, i am having a busload of problems using camtasia in windows. i am thinking of trying out video recording in ubuntu. i already am running ubuntu but i came across this ubuntu studio. i am doing e learning videos for my programmin class of students. i just want to add my voice over the video itself should i get ubuntu studio? or i jus need to install a few software in my current ubuntu?17:32
Zeu5anyone?17:34
rlameiroZeu5: hi17:40
Zeu5anyone?17:40
Zeu5rlameiro:  hi17:40
rlameirowell, do you want to do screen cast?17:40
Zeu5rlameiro: is tat the actual term?17:40
Zeu5basically i am teaching php and mysql to 19-21 yr olds17:41
rlameirook, but you record the video fron the desktop right?17:41
Zeu5rlameiro: camtasia was vv nice to use but its windows and i had a HUGE problem getting my sound to work.17:41
Zeu5rlameiro: yes17:41
rlameirook17:41
rlameirowell, once you recrd your video17:41
rlameiroyou can use Xjadeo + Ardour17:42
Zeu5rlameiro:  i am willing to consider ubuntu solutions came across ubuntustudio hence popped in here to seek advice17:42
rlameiroardour is a multitrack audio recorderrecorder17:42
Zeu5rlameiro: are u saying i do not need to install ubuntu studio per se? but simply install xjadeo + ardour on my standard ubuntu 10.0.4?17:43
rlameiroxjadeo is a video only player, it wont play audio, the main objective is to use it for after adding audio17:43
rlameiroit syncronizes using the jack transport17:43
rlameirowell, thecnically yes :D17:43
rlameiroyou dont need17:43
rlameirobut ubuntustudio, do have all you need for this setup17:43
Zeu5rlameiro: sorry i have only ever used camtasia i am a super noob. infact i only used ubuntu for less than 2 months so far17:44
rlameiroalso, you just need to install ubuntustudio metapackages to have ubuntustudio, you dont need to do a full install17:44
rlameiroahh, ok17:44
tucemiuxhow do you guys recommend I add audio to a video I created?  I want to record my voice over it and then add background music17:44
rlameirowait, i remeber to see some ultra cool software a la camstasia17:44
rlameirogive me 5 minutes to search it up17:44
Zeu5rlameiro: thanks!17:45
rlameirotucemiux: read what i said before17:45
Zeu5tucemiux: think its xjadeo + ardour. in case you just logged in and cannot see the previous few sentences17:45
Zeu5rlameiro:  i am looking at xjadeo and ardour.. guess i still dunno how it works until i download and try17:46
rlameirowell, they are quite powerfull tools, so it will need some time to get to know them good17:47
tucemiuxZeu5, i would just add the metapackage and youll have ubuntustudio on your machine, remember once you upgrade you will no longer have ubuntu, you will have ubuntustudio17:48
Zeu5rlameiro: any luck with that camtasia equivalent?17:48
tucemiuxZeu5, getting the sound appz  to work is going to be a PITA with ubuntu, that's why i use ubuntustudio17:48
rlameiroZeu5: still searching17:49
Zeu5tucemiux: oh no.. :( i am not sure if my laptop is powerful enough17:49
rlameiroyou can leave the ubuntustudio artwiork and desktop if you want to stay with the same17:49
Zeu5tucemiux: i usually just my ubuntu for programming purposes17:49
rlameiroif it runs ubuntu, it runs ubuntustudio17:49
tucemiuxZeu5, your laptop is powerful enough, I used to run ubuntustudio with a PIII laptop, and if your machine is still not powerful enough then you can try the real time kernel17:50
Zeu5rlameiro: tucemiux i only need to be able to do what rlameiro says is a screencast17:50
Zeu5tucemiux: i guess mine is powerful enough. but does that mean i need to ubuntu to switch to ubuntustudio? and anyway i do not need graphics editing.. i already have GIMP and i barely used it17:51
Zeu5*uninstall ubuntu to switch to ubuntustudio17:51
rlameirowell, then you dont need to install ubuntustudio17:51
rlameirothey use the same repositoriew17:51
rlameiro*repositories17:52
tucemiuxZeu5, if you can get the audio to work on plain ubuntu and it records really good then you should be good17:52
Zeu5tucemiux: u are saying in case i have a PITA getting the audio to work then i shd consider installing ubuntustudio?17:52
tucemiuxZeu5, you dont need to uninstall ubuntu, remember ubuntustudio = ubuntu + "Audio+Video that works out of the box"17:52
Zeu5tucemiux: i see..17:52
tucemiuxZeu5, exactly17:53
Zeu5tucemiux: in tat case, why dont i just install the audio and video components separately?17:53
rlameiroZeu5: FINALLY17:53
tucemiuxZeu5, sure, install the applications and try them on ubuntu17:53
rlameirofound it17:53
rlameirohttp://www.ws4gl.org/17:53
rlameirocheck the videos to look at the features17:53
Zeu5thanks rlameiro17:54
rlameiroZeu5: http://www.ws4gl.org/webcamstudio-demos17:54
rlameiroZeu5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoXtcaWwsP0&feature=player_embedded17:55
rlameirothis is very nice demo17:55
tucemiuxrlameiro, so if I want to add my voice and a soundtrack on the background I should mix the sound in ardour and then add the sound to the video app?? how do you synchronize the audio to the video?17:56
rlameiroyou use xjadeo for it17:57
rlameiroxjadeo is a video player tha is synced using the jack transport17:57
rlameiroyou need to set the timing on ardour to jack17:57
rlameiroand then when you play start on ardour, the video will start etc17:58
rlameiroafter that, you can join audio and video using ffmpeg or something like that17:58
rlameiroor openshot17:58
rlameiroor some vidoe editor17:59
rlameiro*video17:59
Zeu5rlameiro: saw this comment in the youtube video.  It's using Java and a lot of it. If you are running intensive stuff like CompizFusion, this is not helping. If you are doing this plus have less than a Intel Dual Core CPU system...it's going to be VERRRRY slow.17:59
tucemiuxrlameiro, is there an app that will allow me to play a video and I can record my voice while the video is playing?17:59
rlameirowell, maybe17:59
rlameirotucemiux: dont know17:59
rlameirobut this is a very good way18:00
rlameiroxjadeo is made for this18:00
rlameiroyou can use qtractor if you like18:00
tucemiuxrlameiro, if I could find an app that will allow me to play the video and I could describe what's going on I could just add sound with kino but i guess I'll leave this little project for later18:01
rlameiroZeu5: well, its possible18:01
rlameiroi tried it, but I do have a dualcore :D18:01
tucemiuxZeu5, are you going to post your videos on youtube?18:01
Zeu5sounds scary. i am not sure if ishd use it18:01
Zeu5tucemiux: well tat is the easiest way for my students to access the videos18:01
rlameirowell, gtk record desktop, wil record your mic if you want18:01
Zeu5some of them would like to access the videos at home so ..18:02
rlameirobut it will do so, at the same time you are recording the video18:02
Zeu5camtasia studio makes it very easy to edit the video and produce in various formats18:02
Zeu5i am not sure if gtkrecordMydesktop is also that user friendly..18:02
rlameiroZeu5: yes, i am sure it is nice18:02
Zeu5rlameiro: have you personally tried gtk recordMydesktop?18:03
rlameirobut, the xjadeo + Ardour is a professional setup, contrary to camstasia...18:03
rlameiroyes18:03
rlameiroits a simple desktop recorder18:03
rlameiroyou press the button "record" and  it starts recording18:03
rlameirosimple like that18:04
rlameirocant be easier18:04
Zeu5rlameiro: i am not a professional i am a normal user. i saw the screenshots of ardour.. vv scarey.. so many knobs and settings to change18:04
rlameiroZeu5: yes i know that18:04
tucemiuxZeu5, you use recordMyDesktop to create the video -- that's what I have right now, I have a video but no audio THEN you add the audio to it.  The trick is to convert the format of your video to a format you can edit it, once you choose your poison you can format the video so that you can edit the video with whatever app you want18:04
rlameiroI did said it is a powerfull tool18:04
Zeu5rlameiro: in tat case the webcamstudio and the gtk recordMydeskTop are basically the same thing ?18:04
rlameirono no18:05
rlameirowebcamstudio integrates a lot of stuff inside18:05
rlameiroyou can streem the video live with it18:05
Zeu5rlameiro: i see. i dont have to do that though. ha.18:05
rlameiroits lot powerfull, but maybe CPU hungry too18:05
rlameiroZeu5: what did you did on camstasia18:06
rlameirocan you explain me the steps18:06
rlameiromaybe there is a simple way18:06
Zeu5rlameiro: first select the area of the screen to record. usually tat s the entire screen18:06
Zeu5rlameiro: then i will demonstrate how to do simple php programming based on the assignments given to teh students.18:07
Zeu5after tat i used camtasia's own smart pan and zoom.. they have this cool way of zooming in at any point in the video and it stays sharp18:07
Zeu5once done, i can cut away any portion of the recording to make the pacing of the whole video better.18:08
rlameiroZeu5: i think you can use that zoom thing on linux, using acessibility tools18:08
rlameirobut you do that speaking at the same time?18:08
Zeu5i can add in captions below the videos18:08
rlameirowell, then you just need GTK record desktop18:09
rlameiroand then a Video editor18:09
Zeu5rlameiro:  so far i have done it without speaking. ii have to do it now cause some want to hear the instructions18:09
rlameirolike openshot or pitivi18:09
Zeu5camtasia would have allowed me to do audio as well, but something screwed up and i am not sure what18:09
Zeu5so i just need gtk recordmydesktop AND openshot?18:10
rlameirowell, there is magnifier software for linux18:10
Zeu5is audio taken care of?18:10
rlameiroyou can use it to magnify parts of the screen18:10
rlameirogtkrecordmy desktop, record audio as well18:10
rlameiroZeu5: install gtk record my desktop from the software center and try it18:11
rlameiroZeu5: the name is gtk-recordmydesktop18:12
rlameiroyou can also select windows and stuff18:12
rlameiroi am installing it too now18:12
Zeu5rlameiro: so its just gtkrecordmydesktop and one of (openshot OR pitivit)18:13
rlameiroyes18:14
rlameirofor the magnifier18:14
rlameiroi am not sure what would do that18:14
rlameiroi will search for it now18:14
rlameiroZeu5: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1333955/out.ogv18:17
rlameirolittle test i made just now18:18
brianmcZeu5, sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-video ubuntustudio-audio18:18
Zeu5whoa rlameiro  that is cool..18:19
rlameiroZeu5: yep18:19
Zeu5rlameiro:  except for the pan and zoom in camtasia, this looks pretty darn good18:19
rlameiroyou can use ORCA18:19
Zeu5brianmc: what will ubuntustudio-video and audio  install?18:20
brianmcWell, if you search for them in synaptic you'll see the full package list.18:20
rlameiroZeu5: it will install the various software that come by default on ubuntustudio18:21
brianmcFor what you're wanting to do, you'll be able to use a video editor which is synched with audio via JACK, and can be mucked about with in Ardour18:22
Zeu5rlameiro, brianmc : god.. i am so overwhelmed by choices. i even spent last 15 mins trying to see which of openshot or pitivi i shd use.18:22
Zeu5can any of you guys kindly point to a simple solution for me?18:22
Zeu5i am just goin to take it and run with it.18:23
Zeu5so far, i understand i ve the following choices:18:23
Zeu51) sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-video ubuntustudio-audio though not sure what apps i am supposed to use affter installing18:23
Zeu52) install gtk recordmydesktop and openshot or pitivi (though not sure if audio editing is possible?)18:24
rlameirosorry18:26
rlameiroi was playing with orca and had some problems :D18:26
* brianmc is firing up Kino to see if it is usable18:28
Zeu5i just read this article http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/ubuntustudio-video so does this mean i canot use recordmydektop? and use something else?18:32
Zeu5provided i install ubuntustudio-video18:32
rlameirono18:33
rlameirothere is no screen recorder on the packages18:33
rlameiroyou will need to install gtk recordmydesktop also18:33
Zeu5rlameiro: oh i see.18:34
Zeu5rlameiro: so in summary wat shd i do? follow brianmc 's suggestions and then install gtkrecordmydesktop and use that for recording?18:35
rlameirowell, that 2 packages will give you a lot of software to fiddle :D18:35
rlameirobut in a nutshell, yes18:35
brianmcEffectively, what you'd do is use a tool you know to capture the video, then use the Jack transport (& Patchage) to dub in your audio18:37
Zeu5rlameiro: sorry if i sound a bit pushy or obnoxious. i want to sound as polite as i can but i really need to ask this18:37
rlameirogo for it Zeu518:37
Zeu5after installin the 2 packages and recordmydesktop, what app should i use for pan zoom effects? caption adding? and syncing the video correctly with a audio track? and recording audio tracks18:38
rlameirofor the zoom18:38
brianmcI assume if you're doing desktop capture you end up with videos that need hacked. It's then just a matter of recording the audio and, say, importing it to Kino containing edited video, and export to desired format18:38
rlameiroi am looking at it at the momet18:38
rlameirofor the captions and stuff18:38
brianmcIIRC Kino can do subtitles18:38
rlameirowell, use openshot18:38
rlameirobrianmc: kino is for DV video18:39
brianmcYes, but convenient for many other things18:39
rlameiroand you need to render everything  everytime you modify something18:39
Zeu5so the process is like this recordmydesktop to capture my screen18:39
rlameironot a good idea18:39
Zeu5then to capture my audio?18:39
rlameirothe audio is captured at the same time as the video18:39
Zeu5oh okie18:40
Zeu5so recordmydesktop for both audio, video18:40
rlameiroyes18:40
Zeu5openshot to edit the video18:40
rlameirothen import the clip to openshot and do with it wathebver you want :D18:40
Zeu5then wat about this Jack transport (& Patchage) to dub in your audio that brianmc  recommended?18:40
rlameirothat is the first option i gave you, he just explained it a little more technical :D18:42
rlameirofor the video editing part18:43
rlameiroi am not an expert18:43
rlameiroyou should try more options really18:43
rlameironot all do everything18:43
rlameiroso maybe try beetween kino, openshot, pitivi18:44
rlameiroetc18:44
brianmcfirst and last are in the ubuntustudio-video metapackage18:44
rlameiroI also ear about kdeenlive18:44
rlameiroZeu5: for the panning and zoom18:48
rlameiroyou should read about orca and try it out18:48
rlameiroit has some nice features, but i can't tell you for sure if it is what you need18:48
Zeu5i think i am going to go with openshot. i think iit has zooming18:54
Zeu5thanks guys.. really appreciate aeverything18:54
Dustin_hello, i just installed ubuntu studio and i am trying to get onto a wireless network23:46
ScottLDustin_, ubuntu studio comes with gnome-network-admin by default, problem is that it has the disable_gui patch applied23:51
ScottLDustin_, however, network-manager is included on the ubuntu studio dvd23:51
ScottLDustin_, do you know how to enable the dvd as a repository?23:51
ScottLDustin_, this page shows you how about the cd (or dvd) as repository https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#CD-ROM/DVD23:52
ScottLonce you have enabled the dvd as repository you need to Refresh you applications list (because you enable a new repository and don't know about which applications it offers until you Refresh the list)23:53
ScottLand then you can enable network-manager23:53
ScottLnetwork-manager is the default network manager for ubuntu desktop and should work23:54
Dustin_ScottL: ok thanks let me try that23:58
ScottLDustin_, sure, i'll be on and off for a while and i'll keep checking this channel, if you have troubles again, ask, and idle in channel for a while23:59

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