[00:06] <CIA-33> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100710230600-gym9gpkl42v8p27y * src/libs/introspection/com.ubuntuone.SyncDaemon.xml introspect /shares
[00:06] <evilshadeslayer> im off for a while.. will be back when upgrade is complete
[00:07] <CIA-33> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100710230724-2z322xzbrb7sz798 * src/libs/SyncDaemon.cpp Add shares to daemon and add debug output to ctor, most importantly not-yet marshaled method calls
[00:08] <lex79> evilshadeslayer: ok
[00:30] <evilshadeslayer> lex79: http://pastebin.com/UT2Dk3Vd
[00:31] <evilshadeslayer> thats for kdepim
[00:32] <lex79> libkleo/cmake_install.cmake maybe is buggy
[00:33] <lex79> look if you have cryptplug.h in debian/tmp/*
[00:33] <evilshadeslayer> hmm.. actually that comes from a patch
[00:33] <lex79> which?
[00:33] <evilshadeslayer> debian/patches/kubuntu_01_install_headers.diff
[00:34] <lex79> ah, my patch then :)
[00:35] <evilshadeslayer> :P
[00:35] <nuovodna> is kde 4.4.92 arriving on lucid ppa ?
[00:35] <lex79> yes when is ready
[00:35] <lex79> :P
[00:35] <evilshadeslayer> nuovodna: shortly ..
[00:35] <lex79> evilshadeslayer: well we have to rewrite that patch I think
[00:36] <evilshadeslayer> :(
[00:36] <evilshadeslayer> kk
[00:36] <evilshadeslayer> its a HUGE patch tho
[00:36] <nuovodna> great now i m going to bed i hope that at 10 AM of 12 July (Rome hour) i can upgrade :)
[00:36] <lex79> we need that patch to build kopete-cryptography
[00:36] <evilshadeslayer> ah..
[00:36] <lex79> evilshadeslayer: disable for now
[00:36] <evilshadeslayer> lex79: uh.. ok
[00:37] <evilshadeslayer> lex79: build with debuild -nc?
[00:37] <lex79> try...
[00:37] <evilshadeslayer> meh
[00:37] <evilshadeslayer> fails...
[00:37] <lex79> rebuild with the patch disabled
[00:37] <lex79> :)
[00:37] <evilshadeslayer> -sa then :P
[00:38] <lex79> k
[00:38] <evilshadeslayer> lex79: wait for 40 mins now  for next error :P
[00:38] <lex79> :D
[00:39] <evilshadeslayer> or not
[00:39] <evilshadeslayer> lex79: http://pastebin.com/W3qkDkUJ
[00:40] <lex79> try with quilt pop -a
[00:40] <CIA-33> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1148525 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/ (backend.cpp backend.h) Add a saveSelections() function and a readSelections() function. Frontends can use these functions to save and load user markings. Provides full Synaptic compatibility
[00:40] <lex79> then debuild again
[00:41] <evilshadeslayer> hmm
[00:42] <evilshadeslayer> fsck
[00:42] <evilshadeslayer> mega fsck
[00:42] <evilshadeslayer> all my work... lost
[00:42] <evilshadeslayer> lex79: i rm -rf the debian/ dir
[00:42] <evilshadeslayer> -.-
[00:43] <lex79> good
[00:43] <evilshadeslayer> and there was TONS of stuff
[00:43] <evilshadeslayer> that was changed
[00:43] <lex79> I fixed some your changelogs in bzr
[00:43] <lex79> like this: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kdegames/ubuntu/revision/77
[00:43] <evilshadeslayer> lex79: any issues?
[00:43] <lex79> or this http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kdenetwork/ubuntu/revision/93
[00:43] <evilshadeslayer> uh
[00:44] <lex79> or this
[00:44] <lex79> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kdeartwork/ubuntu/revision/75
[00:44] <evilshadeslayer> wow
[00:44] <lex79> ^ well, ^ that is not your fault :P
[00:45] <lex79> now you discovered why we put UNRELEASED in the changelog -.-
[00:45] <evilshadeslayer> hehe :)
[00:47]  * evilshadeslayer is not happy with what he did
[00:47] <lex79> :(
[00:47] <evilshadeslayer> now it will take me atlease 4 hours to fix kdepim :/
[00:47] <evilshadeslayer> *atleast
[00:47] <evilshadeslayer> hmm
[00:48] <evilshadeslayer> i can watch star wars till it builds :P
[00:48]  * evilshadeslayer hunts for headphones
[00:49] <evilshadeslayer> oh wait
[00:49] <evilshadeslayer> im saved!!!
[00:50] <evilshadeslayer> kdepim_4.4.90-0ubuntu1~ppa1.debian.tar.gz
[00:50] <evilshadeslayer> saved me :D
[00:50] <evilshadeslayer> its the old debian folder :D
[00:51] <lex79> :)
[00:51]  * evilshadeslayer pushes to personal bzr before he does stupid stuff again
[00:54] <TecnicoDPC_> :)
[00:56] <evilshadeslayer> lex79: upgrade almost done.. 30 mins more
[00:57] <lex79> ok
[00:59]  * evilshadeslayer is scared ... what happens when apt-get dist upgrade meets debuild :P
[00:59] <evilshadeslayer> my laptop will probably be blown to bits....
[00:59] <evilshadeslayer> lex79: you will owe me a new laptop then :P
[01:00] <lex79> don't look at me :)
[01:02] <evilshadeslayer> kubotu: learn that lex79 owes me a new laptop if this one is blown to pieces
[01:02] <kubotu> okay, learned fact #1: lex79 owes me a new laptop if this one is blown to pieces
[01:02] <evilshadeslayer> wow.. first fact....
[01:02] <lex79> lol
[01:03] <evilshadeslayer> apachelogger: ^^
[01:03] <evilshadeslayer> how come :P
[01:03] <evilshadeslayer> fact 1
[01:03] <evilshadeslayer> !fact 1
[01:03] <evilshadeslayer> uh
[01:04] <evilshadeslayer> kubotu: fact 1
[01:04] <kubotu> fact #1 of 1: lex79 owes me a new laptop if this one is blown to pieces [from evilshadeslayer!~shadeslay@ubuntu/member/shadeslayer on Sun Jul 11 03:03:15 +0300 2010 in #kubuntu-devel]
[01:04] <evilshadeslayer> kubotu: 42?
[01:04] <evilshadeslayer> kubotu: 42
[01:05] <evilshadeslayer> brrrr
[01:38] <evilshadeslayer> lex79: upgrading.. so far so good :)
[01:38] <lex79> good :)
[01:39] <lex79> I can't upload oxygen-icons, kdeartwork, kdetoys and kdewebdev
[01:39] <lex79> :(
[01:40] <evilshadeslayer> lex79: why?
[01:40] <lex79> they are not yet in the set of the packages
[01:40] <lex79> see ubuntu-devel chan :)
[01:41] <CIA-33> [muon] jmthomas * 1148530 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/ (MainWindow.cpp MainWindow.h muonui.rc) Add a GUI for saving/restoring package markings, like in Synaptic
[01:42] <CIA-33> [muon] jmthomas * 1148531 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/MainWindow.cpp SVN_SILENT: Teeny string fix
[01:43] <CIA-33> [muon] jmthomas * 1148532 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/MainWindow.cpp SVN_SILENT: Ssh!
[01:49] <evilshadeslayer> lex79: kde 4.4.92 good to go on amd64 maverick
[01:49] <evilshadeslayer> not a single error
[01:49] <lex79> ok, I'm copying to beta backport
[01:49] <evilshadeslayer> kool
[01:58] <lex79> done
[01:58] <evilshadeslayer> lex79: kdepim builds fine without the patch
[01:58] <lex79> ok push to bzr, and write in changelog that you disabled the patch
[01:59] <evilshadeslayer> lex79: uh.. we dont need that patch?
[01:59] <lex79> and write that we have to fix it to build kopete-cryptography
[01:59] <lex79> well, if you want fix the patch go ahead
[02:00] <evilshadeslayer> hmm
[02:01] <evilshadeslayer> lex79: im applying the patch inline ;)
[02:01] <lex79> ok, but usually we don't want patch inline when we release the package
[02:01] <evilshadeslayer> hmm
[02:02] <evilshadeslayer> lex79: ill upload to experimental with patch disabled for now
[02:03] <lex79> JontheEchidna: can we survive without oxygen-icons, kdeartwork, kdetoys and kdewebdev for one-two days?
[02:03] <lex79> or until someone can upload them?
[02:03] <JontheEchidna> yeah, those aren't too terribly important
[02:04] <lex79> ok I'm going to upload RC2 to maverick
[02:04]  * lex79 plays with his power
[02:05] <evilshadeslayer> E: kdepim source: weak-library-dev-dependency kdepim-dev on libkdepim4 (>= ${binary:Version})
[02:10] <evilshadeslayer> lex79: http://pastebin.com/cgikQMUb :P
[02:10] <lex79> lol
[02:10] <evilshadeslayer> thats _after_ i put in so much work :D
[02:11] <evilshadeslayer> ill poke this later :)
[02:11]  * lex79 can also retry packages in LP now
[02:12] <evilshadeslayer> hehe
[02:12] <evilshadeslayer> nice
[02:12] <evilshadeslayer> lex79: do some MOTU work :P
[02:12] <lex79> but only the packages that I upload
[02:12] <lex79> :P
[02:13]  * evilshadeslayer watches Star Wars Ep V
[02:15] <CIA-33> [muon] jmthomas * 1148534 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/MainWindow.cpp If there are uncommitted changes when the user tries to exit, offer to save those changes, discard them, or cancel the exit. Also include a "don't ask again" checkbox for those who may prefer that
[02:20] <CIA-33> [muon] jmthomas * 1148535 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/ (MainWindow.cpp MainWindow.h) In case of save failure (insufficient permissions, etc) while asking on exit, ask again so that we don't lose the user's information by quitting
[02:20]  * JontheEchidna has a dataloss bug on the loose for 4 minutes 56 seconds :o
[02:21] <lex79> lol
[02:26] <evilshadeslayer> cya then
[02:42] <evilshadeslayer> lex79: i haz broken kde with kdepim-runtime beta :P
[02:42] <evilshadeslayer> so ... fixing kdepim now
[02:43] <lex79> :D
[02:45]  * spikeb is attempting to fix a papercut
[02:46] <evilshadeslayer> lex79: any idea where  usr/lib/libeventviews.so.4 goes?
[02:46] <evilshadeslayer> spikeb: go go!
[02:46] <evilshadeslayer> spikeb: which bug tho :)
[02:46] <spikeb> https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/259793
[02:46] <evilshadeslayer> lex79: http://pastebin.com/40yjqgpw
[02:47] <lex79> nope, maybe it's a new package
[02:47] <evilshadeslayer> hehe :P
[02:47] <evilshadeslayer> lex79: noooooooooo
[02:47]  * evilshadeslayer is sad again
[02:47] <megaevilshadesla> im so evil that i cut my nick off
[02:48] <lex79> well, in general, I think there are new binary packages to do in kdepim
[02:48] <megaevilshadesla> ew
[02:49]  * megaevilshadesla is not happy et al
[02:49] <megaevilshadesla> lex79: so i guess this is a new lib
[02:49] <lex79> yes
[02:50]  * megaevilshadesla reads http://www.netfort.gr.jp/~dancer/column/libpkg-guide/libpkg-guide.html
[02:52] <lex79> megaevilshadesla: do you have usr/lib/libeventviews.so.4 and usr/lib/libeventviews.so.4.5.0 ?
[02:52] <megaevilshadesla> lex79: libeventviews4 <<
[02:52] <megaevilshadesla> yes
[02:53] <lex79> ok for libeventviews4
[02:53] <megaevilshadesla> kewl
[02:55] <megaevilshadesla> lex79: kde pim event view library?
[02:55] <megaevilshadesla> in short desc
[02:57] <lex79> uhm dunno :D
[02:58] <lex79> should be
[02:58] <lex79> kde pim -> KDE PIM
[02:59] <megaevilshadesla> of course 
[02:59] <megaevilshadesla> lex79: http://pastebin.com/fCNds3vR
[03:01] <lex79> KDE PIM Event View library -> event view library for KDE PIM
[03:02] <lex79> event views
[03:03] <megaevilshadesla> ok
[03:03] <megaevilshadesla> lex79:  usr/lib/libkdepimdbusinterfaces.so << should i install that?
[03:04]  * megaevilshadesla doesnt think so
[03:05] <lex79> is there also libkdepimdbusinterfaces.so.4 and .so.4.5.0 ?
[03:05] <megaevilshadesla> yep
[03:05]  * maco just explained in #ubuntu-classroom why kubuntu is the awesomest ;-)
[03:05] <lex79> only libkdepimdbusinterfaces.so.4 and .so.4.5.0 have to go in the package
[03:05] <megaevilshadesla> :P
[03:05] <megaevilshadesla> maco: whee
[03:06] <lex79> libkdepimdbusinterfaces.so goes into not-installed
[03:06]  * megaevilshadesla is too evil to come into #ubuntu-classroom
[03:06]  * maxwellian marvels at the many names of shadeslayer
[03:06] <maco> pleia2 tried to win people over to xfce and i went for kde
[03:07] <megaevilshadesla> maxwellian: oh you didnt meet my brother did you :D
[03:07] <megaevilshadesla> maxwellian: ^^
[03:08] <megaevilshadesla> Roran: say hi
[03:08] <Roran> megaevilshadesla: incorrect usage, ask for help using 'Roran: help say'
[03:09] <maxwellian> megaevilshadesla: Heh. :)
[03:09] <megaevilshadesla> :S
[03:09] <maxwellian> Man, thanks for the pointer about #ubuntu-classroom, I didn't even know about that channel.
[03:09]  * maxwellian has been missing out!!
[03:09] <megaevilshadesla> maxwellian: which channel?
[03:09] <megaevilshadesla> oh
[03:09] <megaevilshadesla> #u-c?
[03:10]  * maxwellian nods
[03:10] <Roran> | maxwellian: hi
[03:11] <Roran> maxwellian: ssup?
[03:11] <lex79> JontheEchidna: can you upload plasma-scriptengine-googlegadget from ninja? it's tiny
[03:12] <lex79> JontheEchidna: maybe also kdetoys
[03:12] <lex79> 392.6 KiB
[03:13] <Roran> lex79 he could do it... but then he would have to kill you :P
[03:13] <lex79> naaahhhh :)
[03:13] <megaevilshadesla> Roran: ok bye
[03:13] <Roran> see ya megaevilshadesla
[03:13] <megaevilshadesla> Roran: quit
[03:14] <megaevilshadesla> kubotu: markov enable
[03:15] <megaevilshadesla> bah.. its disabled :S
[03:17] <megaevilshadesla> lex79:  usr/lib/libtemplateparser.so << thats not in not-installed but has .4 and .4.5.0 
[03:17] <megaevilshadesla> +libs
[03:17]  * maxwellian is still an IRC noob, doesn't know a bot when he sees one
[03:17] <lex79> and where's?
[03:18] <megaevilshadesla> maxwellian: :P
[03:18] <megaevilshadesla> maxwellian: Roran (~shadeslay@unaffiliated/shadeslayer/bot/roran) has joined #kubuntu-devel << 
[03:18] <megaevilshadesla> see the bot part :)
[03:18] <megaevilshadesla> lex79: kmail.install
[03:19] <megaevilshadesla> maxwellian: kubotu and ubottu are others ;)
[03:20]  * megaevilshadesla just realised we dont have ChanServ in here
[03:20] <lex79> who added libtemplateparser.so in kmail.install?
[03:20] <megaevilshadesla> lex79: no one
[03:20] <maxwellian> megaevilshadesla: Kubotu and ubottu are known to me, but Roran is a new one for me. :)
[03:20] <lex79> uhm? you saw that libtemplateparser.so is in kmail.install.....
[03:20] <maxwellian> megaevilshadesla: Are you allowed to have your own bots on Ubuntu channels?
[03:21] <megaevilshadesla> lex79: i meant taht libtemplateparser.so.4 and libtemplateparser.so.4.5.0 are in kmail.install but not libtemplateparser.so
[03:21] <lex79> *said
[03:21] <lex79> it's right
[03:21] <megaevilshadesla> maxwellian: i think so... as long as they dont create a fuss..
[03:21] <megaevilshadesla> jussi: ^^
[03:21] <megaevilshadesla> or maybe maco knows as well :P
[03:21] <megaevilshadesla> lex79: ill add it to not-installed
[03:22] <lex79> ok
[03:22] <maco> normally no
[03:22] <maco> they have to be approved by the kubuntu council
[03:22] <maco> erk
[03:22] <maco> irc council
[03:22] <maco> brain fail
[03:22] <maco> :)
[03:22] <megaevilshadesla> maco: ok.. :)
[03:23] <megaevilshadesla> Roran is basically a copy of kubotu :P
[03:24] <megaevilshadesla> lex79: do we install *any* of the .so files?
[03:25] <lex79> in general we install .so.4 and .so.4.5.9
[03:25] <lex79> in general we install .so.4 and .so.4.5.0
[03:25] <lex79> and we put .so in not-installed
[03:25] <megaevilshadesla> ok
[03:28] <megaevilshadesla> now where does  usr/lib/kde4/messageviewer_bodypartformatter_text_xdiff.so go :P
[03:31] <megaevilshadesla> lex79: ^^
[03:31] <lex79> I don't know
[03:32] <megaevilshadesla> lex79:  usr/lib/kde4/plasma_applet_akonotes_list.so ?
[03:32] <lex79> they are plugins, so in some packages have to go
[03:33] <lex79> but dunno where
[03:33] <megaevilshadesla> lex79: i think the first one goes to debian/libmessageviewer0.install
[03:34] <lex79> probably
[03:36] <megaevilshadesla> lex79:  usr/lib/kde4/messageviewer_bodypartformatter_text_calendar.so would go to the new lib ?
[03:36] <megaevilshadesla> or message viewer?
[03:37] <megaevilshadesla> message viewer
[03:38] <megaevilshadesla> lex79: bah.. we need another new package -.-
[03:38] <megaevilshadesla> akonotes <<
[03:39] <lex79> you have to rush
[03:39] <lex79> *too
[03:39] <megaevilshadesla> im trying
[03:39] <megaevilshadesla> lex79: why tho :P
[03:39] <megaevilshadesla> need another hour or so...
[03:39] <megaevilshadesla> 50 more files remaining :S
[03:42] <lex79> you have also to see in the source where those files come from
[03:42] <lex79> not just in the .install files
[03:42] <megaevilshadesla> 35 more :D
[03:42] <megaevilshadesla> lex79: how do i see that? :P
[03:42] <lex79> in the source
[03:43] <lex79> with no rush for example
[03:43] <lex79> :)
[03:44] <megaevilshadesla> lex79: aha.. the plasma_applet_akonotes_list seems to be from kjots 
[03:45] <megaevilshadesla> lex79: should i split a package for just the plasma stuff?
[03:45] <lex79> did you see in the source?
[03:45] <lex79> split a package?
[03:45] <megaevilshadesla> yes
[03:45] <megaevilshadesla> lex79: http://pastebin.com/9e88yy0Q
[03:46] <megaevilshadesla> lex79: since its a plasmoid,do i ship it with kjots?
[03:46] <lex79> since it comes from kjots, it has to go in kjots package
[03:46] <megaevilshadesla> ok
[03:46] <lex79> no need a new package
[03:50] <megaevilshadesla> whats a .upd file? 0_o
[03:50] <megaevilshadesla>  usr/share/kde4/apps/kconf_update/knode.upd 
[03:50] <lex79> data
[03:50] <lex79> in knode
[03:51] <megaevilshadesla> hmm
[03:53]  * lex79 goes to bed
[03:57] <megaevilshadesla> oi
[03:57] <megaevilshadesla> :/
[04:03] <megaevilshadesla> meta poke...
[04:04] <megaevilshadesla> kdepim done :D
[04:04] <megaevilshadesla> i think..
[04:04] <megaevilshadesla> running through pbuilder
[04:05]  * megaevilshadesla would like some extra credit for kdepim :P
[04:05] <megaevilshadesla> Riddell: ^^
[04:22] <shadeslayer> oh crap... lex uploaded the packages at the wrong time -.-
[04:41] <maco> Nightrose: why does amarok depend on gtk?
[04:54]  * maxwellian was too terrified to set up pbuilder, when it wanted to install a hundred packages... :S
[05:26] <nigelb> shadeslayer: megaevil? wow
[07:27] <jussi> shadeslayer: you need permission for the channel contact, but ion the core channels we would prefer you dont have additional ones unless they are super necessary. what does it do?
[09:25] <Nightrose> maco: for some ipod stuff
[10:06] <eMyller> sheytan: no ofirk yet :P
[10:07] <sheytan> eMyller yeah. It's sunday, maybe he will show up later :)
[10:07] <eMyller> :)
[10:11] <eMyller> 6am, time to take a nap
[10:11] <eMyller> cya
[10:13] <sheytan> oh, bye :)
[10:27] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: last time we tried some package along the fact stack messed up and rbot on 9.04 did not remember the facts across restarts
[10:29] <apachelogger> anyone with you bun too one account around?
[10:53] <simulacrum> I
[10:54] <apachelogger> simulacrum: mind creating a folder with some random files and sharing that with me?
[10:54]  * apachelogger is wondering if there is a way to accept shares from the desktop
[10:55] <simulacrum> I'll create them right away
[10:59] <simulacrum> apachelogger: Sharing is only through email or link-to ?
[11:00] <apachelogger> simulacrum: apachelogger@ubuntu.com
[11:00] <apachelogger> well link-to is publish, isnt it?
[11:00]  * apachelogger hasnt quite figured that out ^^
[11:00] <simulacrum> dunno either, I've never used Ubuntu One just created an account to see what's all about
[11:01] <simulacrum> Shared with apachelogger@ubuntu.com  to view files on Jul-11-2010 (waiting to be accepted)
[11:01] <apachelogger> simulacrum: thank you :)
[11:02] <simulacrum> Kubuntu team is working on the ubuntuone-kde client?
[11:02] <apachelogger> no, I am for google summer of code
[11:03] <apachelogger> that reminds me that I should blog a bit ^^
[11:04] <simulacrum> Your blog is present on Planet KDE, right?
[11:04] <apachelogger> yeah
[11:06] <nigelb> apachelogger: how fluffy coming along?
[11:07] <nigelb> s/how/hows
[11:07] <apachelogger> a bit stuck right now
[11:07] <apachelogger> need more contributors ^^
[11:07] <nigelb> oh
[11:08] <CIA-33> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100711100838-c3uja14tz32udo8w * src/libs/introspection/com.ubuntuone.SyncDaemon.xml introspect /publicfiles
[11:30] <CIA-33> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100711103014-hvevmk61q3mzl895 * src/libs/SyncDaemon.cpp instancify the public files interface
[11:31] <apachelogger> http://ubuntuone.com/p/9IA/ <-- when apachelogger gets a bug mail ^^
[11:38] <jussi> hrm that curious, after the last update, I dont have an oxygen theme anymore....
[11:45] <Mamarok> hm, how do I use the Kubuntu Feedback widget?
[11:52] <simulacrum> Mamarok: I don't know if Kubuntu Feedback Widget it's usable anymore, i.e. it needs to have surveys in it like for the example it was used like in the example at the bottom of this page: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/10.04-lts-releas
[11:52] <simulacrum> bleah
[11:52] <simulacrum> just go the that page to see it
[11:52] <simulacrum> my english sucks
[11:53] <Mamarok> simulacrum: well, then the name is misleading, I thought it could be used to give feedback
[11:53] <Mamarok> it should rather be called Kubuntu Survey, then
[11:54] <simulacrum> the link I gave you needs an 'e' at the end
[11:55] <Mamarok> simulacrum: if it is not useable anymore, it should be removed, no?
[11:56] <simulacrum> I dont know who maintains it, but it could be useful for users providing feedback, I think it was usable only when Kubuntu 10.04 LTS came out
[11:56] <Mamarok> but since 10.04 is an LTS, it should continue to work
[11:57] <Mamarok> I'll ask nixternal once he is online
[11:57]  * apachelogger is wondering how to test upgading without bricking his kdepim -.-
[11:58] <apachelogger> we need secondary ninja ppa
[12:00] <apachelogger> oh?
[12:00] <apachelogger> it is published already?
[12:06] <simulacrum> experimental ppa ?
[12:06] <apachelogger> well, KDE 4.5 rc
[12:10] <CIA-33> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100711110951-vegq70fwa0n5w74l * src/libs/SyncDaemon.cpp qdebug list of public files in ctor - it is interesting that for me this is empty even though I have like 7 public files :/
[12:10] <CIA-33> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100711111042-2uysp0771c24ltov * src/libs/com.ubuntuone.Authentication.xml get rid of old dbus xml file for auth stuff
[12:13] <Quintasan> \o
[12:16] <Quintasan> apachelogger: can I somehow avoid uploading the whole Qt tree to PPA while I have only changed the rules file?
[12:17] <apachelogger> sure, do not make it a native package :)
[12:17] <Quintasan> like
[12:17] <Quintasan> 1.0-0ubuntu1+{revno}?
[12:20] <CIA-33> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100711112015-ky6n877mmjzmlxxt * src/auth/ (AccessToken.cpp AccessToken.h AuthHandler.cpp) rename httpdaemon var to httpd (still no m_ though, somehow would seem off TBH)
[12:21] <Quintasan> apachelogger: ^^
[12:38] <apachelogger> Quintasan: well, the tarball needs to be found as $SRCNAME_$SRCVERSION.orig.tar.[supportedcompression]
[12:38] <Quintasan> ah
[12:39] <Quintasan> okay
[12:39] <apachelogger> goto++
[12:47] <apachelogger> goto--
[12:49] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: ping
[13:08] <CIA-33> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100711120759-nlli6btda9qq6d5y * src/auth/ (AccessToken.cpp HttpDaemon.cpp HttpDaemon.h) httpd only reacts to callbacks with appropriate nonce
[13:10] <sheytan_> eMyller ping pong. Ofir is here :D
[13:10] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: we haz apturl handling in rekonq git :P
[13:11] <shadeslayer> also... not sure what you mean by the rbot thingy 
[13:16] <shadeslayer> uh
[13:16]  * shadeslayer dances like mad
[13:17] <shadeslayer> well... anyone up for kdepim testing ?
[13:17] <shadeslayer> the beta release
[13:17] <shadeslayer> now i just have to fix the changelog :P
[13:20] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: I am sure openSUSE users will appreciate the way it was implemented
[13:21] <shadeslayer> hahah :P
[13:21] <apachelogger> apt+http missing
[13:21] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: im working on a proper implementation,im learning how to code it....
[13:22] <shadeslayer> uh oh..
[13:22] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: how useful is kdepim 4.5b1 really?
[13:22]  * apachelogger is considering giving it a shot at breaking his data just so he can annoy krake with bugs :P
[13:22] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: well.... kdepim devs have said its not usable much
[13:23] <shadeslayer> they have even delayed beta 2
[13:23] <apachelogger> so you did not try it?
[13:23] <shadeslayer> and ... kdepim makes  you cry when you package it
[13:23]  * apachelogger did use KDE 4.0 when it was not 4.0, so... :P
[13:23] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: im trying
[13:23] <shadeslayer> but lex uploaded kde 4.4.92 packages so couldnt build in pdebuild
[13:24] <shadeslayer> had to directly upload to ninjas....
[13:26] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: also.. grantlee has to be moved to main before we can upload to main
[13:28] <apachelogger> kdepim does not go to maverick official
[13:29] <apachelogger> not unless it is clear that it will be superior to 4.4 by the time of release
[13:29] <apachelogger> otherwise the devil himself might come and pay us a visit
[13:31] <shadeslayer> hehe
[13:31] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: thats why it needs testing
[13:31] <shadeslayer> also.. if kdepi, devs say that the beta 2 is good to use
[13:31] <shadeslayer> *kdepim
[13:35] <apachelogger> then we still would not move it to maverick :P
[13:35] <apachelogger> I did see that too often happen
[13:35] <shadeslayer> :P
[13:36] <apachelogger> "needs testing, lets move it to $devseries" - "ah, it works fine enough for the 30 testers, lets leave it in for the release" - "you stupid developers are not thinking about us users!!! go burn in hell!!! I hatez u!!!!"
[13:36] <shadeslayer> lulz
[13:45] <CIA-33> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100711124537-no7fm9zmbmhbcxix * debian/changelog releasing version 0.0.0~alpha1+1-0ubuntu0~lucid0~ppa1
[13:46] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: when can we haz maverick packages?
[13:46] <apachelogger> no
[13:46] <shadeslayer> :S
[13:46] <apachelogger> now I also have a syncd branch :P
[13:47] <apachelogger> another package I do not care to forward port
[13:47] <shadeslayer> heh
[13:47] <shadeslayer> which leaves more workz for us :P
[13:49] <apachelogger> http://ubuntuone.com/p/9IA/ \o/
[13:49] <apachelogger> more bugs
[13:50] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: oh also.. i didnt port kdepim to lucid.. as of yet :P
[13:50] <simulacrum> apachelogger: yep, no upload there
[13:53] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: would be nice to have, though :)
[13:53] <apachelogger> http://aplg.kollide.net/tmp/exterminate.ogg
[13:53] <apachelogger> here we go
[13:53] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: you *want* kdepim beta ? :D
[13:53]  * apachelogger lovse when he gets bug mails 
[13:53] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: ill port it today... but no guarantees :D
[13:54] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: weren't you asking for testers?
[13:54] <apachelogger> oh
[13:54] <apachelogger> bangarang
[13:54] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: yes.. ok,ill start porting it in 30 mins...
[13:55] <shadeslayer> right now... have to fix in maverick first :)
[13:55] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: package will be in experimental ppa
[13:55] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: thanks, I will ahve a look later
[13:55] <Mamarok> have*
[13:55] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: ok :)
[13:55] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: oh oh .. kraft is ready to be backported
[13:55] <shadeslayer> to lucid
[13:56] <shadeslayer> but no one is looking at it :S
[13:56] <Quintasan> PIZZA
[13:56] <Quintasan> ~!
[13:56] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: :D
[13:56]  * apachelogger closes eyes
[13:56] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: I will :)
[13:56] <apachelogger> the all new eyePhone \o/
[13:56]  * shadeslayer haz pancakes instead
[13:56] <Mamarok> apachelogger: as long as you are not driving right now...
[13:56] <shadeslayer> the all new Droid X
[13:56] <shadeslayer> beat that
[13:56] <apachelogger> Mamarok: if I were ircing while driving it wouold also be pretyt bad :P
[13:56] <shadeslayer> rofl
[13:57] <apachelogger> ScottK does that at times I hear :P
[13:57] <Mamarok> apachelogger: I know a few who do that
[13:57] <shadeslayer> well .. atleast it sets up fine :P
[13:57]  * shadeslayer fires up kontact
[13:57] <Mamarok> the plague of the smartphones, too many connection possibilities, and fits on the wheel
[13:57] <shadeslayer> :o
[13:58] <shadeslayer> hmm
[13:59] <shadeslayer> i haz kdepim beta 2
[13:59] <apachelogger> I am too busy singing to do ircing while driving ;)
[13:59] <shadeslayer> uh
[13:59] <shadeslayer> beta 1
[13:59] <shadeslayer> anyone want a screenshot?
[14:00] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: why, is it so different?
[14:00] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: different?
[14:00] <shadeslayer> http://imagebin.ca/view/Fxs4-AU.html
[14:00] <shadeslayer> screenie
[14:00]  * shadeslayer cant find anything different
[14:01] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: well, if there is no differenc in appearance, why do we need a screenshot then?
[14:01] <shadeslayer> because it says beta :P
[14:01] <apachelogger> so we know there is no difference in appaerance :D
[14:01] <apachelogger> you know ... pictures or it didnt happen :0
[14:01] <shadeslayer> hehe
[14:02] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: I believed you without a visual proof :)
[14:02] <shadeslayer> :P
[14:02]  * Mamarok is quite a confident person
[14:02] <apachelogger> ^^
[14:02] <shadeslayer> wth... imap isnt working :S
[14:02] <apachelogger> blame krake :P
[14:02]  * shadeslayer starts pelting krake
[14:04] <shadeslayer> wow.. its slowwww
[14:04] <shadeslayer> oho
[14:04]  * shadeslayer marvels
[14:04]  * apachelogger dcs :P
[14:04] <shadeslayer> full integration with akonadi
[14:05] <apachelogger> oh
[14:05] <apachelogger> 1500
[14:05] <apachelogger> time for coffee break! :D
[14:07] <shadeslayer> kubotu: praise apachelogger
[14:07] <shadeslayer> :S
[14:08] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: youve disabled half the stuff
[14:08] <shadeslayer> more than half...
[14:12] <shadeslayer> heh... kmail shows 5k unread messages.. but no messages
[14:16] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: account wizard got a much needed facelift
[14:17] <shadeslayer> brb
[14:26] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: because half the stuff is either offensive, flooding, or simply pointless
[14:27] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: uh... akonadi has issues
[14:28] <apachelogger> is that a prerelease too?
[14:28] <shadeslayer> dont thinks so
[14:28] <shadeslayer> how do i find out?
[14:28] <shadeslayer> http://pastebin.ca/1898398
[14:29] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: ^^
[14:31] <apachelogger> oh
[14:31] <apachelogger> InnoDB: Check that you do not already have another mysqld process
[14:31] <apachelogger> is another akonadi-server running :P
[14:31] <apachelogger> otherwise go to #akonadi
[14:31] <apachelogger> and beat them with it
[14:31] <apachelogger> really hard
[14:31] <apachelogger> that stupid mysql stuff -.-
[14:32] <shadeslayer> lets see..
[14:32] <shadeslayer> i killed akonadiserver
[14:32] <shadeslayer> starting again
[14:32] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://pastebin.com/mzB53MnT
[14:33] <shadeslayer> same thing :S
[14:33] <apachelogger> #akonadi
[14:40] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: can you poke bug 603276
[14:40] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: pong
[14:40] <KRF> apachelogger: *bling*
[14:41] <apachelogger> oh dear
[14:41] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/scripts/astyle-kubuntu
[14:41] <apachelogger> also I wanted to ask something, I forgot :D
[14:41] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: I am not member of the backport squad
[14:41] <shadeslayer> :(
[14:42] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: neat
[14:50] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: oh right ... my new incoming bug mail filter -> http://aplg.kollide.net/tmp/exterminate.ogg
[14:50] <JontheEchidna> lmao
[14:52] <apachelogger> ^^
[14:53] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: any suggestions what widget I could produce in my UDW talk?
[14:53]  * apachelogger was thinking about a Quintasan troll with spinning head ^^
[14:53] <JontheEchidna> ^^
[14:57] <shadeslayer> hehe
[14:57] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: something simple imo
[14:58] <shadeslayer> like a basic widget to control amarok with dbus... << if thats not too hard :D
[14:59] <apachelogger> now that is one large button
[14:59] <apachelogger> phew
[15:00] <apachelogger> http://imagebin.ca/view/99x6RVjG.html
[15:00] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: easier done in CPP ;)
[15:00] <apachelogger> though it shouldnt be too hard in ecmascript either
[15:00] <shadeslayer> :D
[15:01] <apachelogger> there sure is a dataengine though
[15:02] <apachelogger> oh
[15:02] <apachelogger> nowplaying \o/
[15:02] <apachelogger> seems to expose mpris, so we should be able to write a plasmoid based on that
[15:02] <apachelogger> though, maybe I should intro to something less dataengine first
[15:03] <apachelogger> maybe first a small troll and then a plyget
[15:03] <apachelogger> oh that name is truely awesome
[15:03] <apachelogger> player widget = plyget :D
[15:04] <Nightrose> apachelogger: Riddell: shadeslayer: i just booted into the live cd i brought from akademy to rescue my system
[15:05] <Nightrose> it freezes just like the current install :(
[15:05] <shadeslayer> :S
[15:05] <shadeslayer> Nightrose: at login?
[15:05] <apachelogger> Nightrose: should I come visit you to rescue your system?
[15:05] <Nightrose> shadeslayer: well somewhere in kdm again yes
[15:05] <Nightrose> apachelogger: please!
[15:05] <apachelogger> who pays?
[15:05] <Nightrose> canonical
[15:06] <shadeslayer> :D
[15:06] <apachelogger> that said, I still did not send the randa stuff to he e.v.
[15:06] <apachelogger> oh dear oh dear
[15:06] <apachelogger> Riddell: does the canonical pay me for fixing upstream systems? :P
[15:06] <shadeslayer> lol
[15:06] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: Riddell's interwebz is down :/
[15:06] <apachelogger> omg
[15:06] <apachelogger> !
[15:06] <apachelogger> the dictator is not here either
[15:07] <apachelogger> Nightrose: well, currently I cannot promise no nothing
[15:07]  * shadeslayer still thinks we should bang the ubuntu-X guys
[15:07] <apachelogger> XXX
[15:07] <apachelogger> Nightrose: you could let me ssh0r
[15:07] <apachelogger> Nightrose: I suppose tty works?
[15:08] <Nightrose> in rescue mode yes - else no
[15:08] <apachelogger> well, rescue mode is good enough as long as you turn on networking :_
[15:08] <apachelogger> :)
[15:08] <Nightrose> k - sec - it's checking disk atm
[15:09] <Quintasan> apachelogger: spinning trollface?
[15:09] <Quintasan> count me in!
[15:09] <CIA-33> [muon] jmthomas * 1148675 * trunk/ (30 files in 5 dirs) astyle++
[15:09] <Nightrose> apachelogger: ok - i'm behind a router though and not sure if ssh is set up properly here atm
[15:10] <Nightrose> i have a command line now
[15:10] <Nightrose> with network
[15:11] <JontheEchidna> ~karma astyle
[15:11] <kubotu> karma for astyle: 1
[15:11] <JontheEchidna> ~karma TODO
[15:11] <kubotu> karma for TODO: 2
[15:11] <shadeslayer> ~karma shadeslayer
[15:11] <kubotu> shadeslayer has neutral karma
[15:11] <Nightrose> apachelogger: ^
[15:11] <shadeslayer> :S
[15:12] <shadeslayer> kubotu: whoami
[15:12] <kubotu> you are *shadeslayer_618454918
[15:12] <apachelogger> Nightrose: well, you probably need to forward port 22 to your machine
[15:14] <Quintasan> ~karma Quintasan 
[15:14] <kubotu> karma for Quintasan: 2
[15:14] <Quintasan> :O
[15:14] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: want me to neutralise it? :P
[15:15]  * Quintasan goes to his hidden stash
[15:15]  * Quintasan takes out banhammer
[15:15]  * Quintasan smashes shadeslayer with banhammer
[15:15] <shadeslayer> !banhammer
[15:15] <shadeslayer> kubotu: hammer
[15:15] <shadeslayer> :S
[15:16]  * shadeslayer sort of hates akonadi for eating his bandwidth
[15:16] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: report bug
[15:17]  * apachelogger is wondering whether to go home today or tomorrow
[15:17] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: well... i did add alot of resources :P
[15:18] <shadeslayer> and virtuoso is eating my CPU
[15:18] <shadeslayer> makes me switch to gnome :|
[15:18] <shadeslayer> +want
[15:18] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: still it should not do that
[15:18] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: also I generally think one should be able to assign max up/down rates
[15:18] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: i guess.. ill report one
[15:19] <shadeslayer> hmm
[15:19] <shadeslayer> bbl.. 
[15:19] <CIA-33> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1148677 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/ (backend.cpp backend.h) Fix up the xapianIndexNeedsUpdate() function.
[15:20] <Nightrose> apachelogger: should be forwarded now
[15:23] <apachelogger> flashinglabel is not working! omg! :(
[15:23] <apachelogger> Nightrose: ip?
[15:23] <Nightrose> 92.200.88.150
[15:24] <apachelogger> ssh: connect to host 92.200.88.150 port 22: Connection refused
[15:24] <apachelogger> :/
[15:24] <apachelogger> Nightrose: are you sure ssh is installed on your machine?
[15:24] <apachelogger> sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[15:24] <Nightrose> ssh yes - if it is set up to accept connections i dunno
[15:24] <Nightrose> k
[15:25] <Nightrose> installing
[15:25] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: did you ever use flashinglabel? ^^
[15:25] <Nightrose> apachelogger: DONE
[15:25] <JontheEchidna> is that a Plasma thingie?
[15:25] <Nightrose> done even
[15:25] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: yeah
[15:26] <apachelogger> Nightrose: ok, now I need a user name and password (preferrably with sudo access ^^)
[15:26] <apachelogger> connection works now :D
[15:26] <Nightrose> \o/
[15:26] <Nightrose> let me quickly change my pw
[15:58] <apachelogger> the qpainter hates me :/
[16:04] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: fix Nightrose's PC first  :P
[16:15] <CIA-33> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1148684 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/backend.cpp This won't work. The stat time should catch this case though
[16:41] <apachelogger> I really wonder why flashinglabel does not work
[17:20] <shadeslayer> lex79: uh.. i think kate.desktop is missing from kdebase
[17:20] <shadeslayer> or whatever package it is in
[17:21] <shadeslayer> when i launch kate.desktop it complains about krunner not bein able to find it
[17:21] <lex79> not here
[17:21] <shadeslayer> :S
[17:21] <shadeslayer> lex79: oh btw do you have maverick?
[17:22] <lex79> yes
[17:22] <shadeslayer> lex79: kdepim beta in ninja :)
[17:22] <lex79> good :)
[17:22] <shadeslayer> will upload for lucid in a few mins
[17:23] <lex79> remember that those packages have to go to experimental
[17:23] <lex79> not into beta backport :)
[17:23] <shadeslayer> yes 
[17:23] <shadeslayer> theyre still in ninja tho.. feel free to copy them over
[17:24] <lex79> you can copy
[17:24] <lex79> choose copy from the web UI, not rebuild
[17:25] <lex79> but test them before :)
[17:26] <shadeslayer> yeah im testing them :D
[17:26] <shadeslayer> they install fine
[17:26] <shadeslayer> just need to add some more changes
[17:28] <shadeslayer> lex79: no need to enable the headers patch?
[17:29] <lex79> no for now
[17:29] <lex79> if you can fix go ahead, if not, leave it disabled
[17:30] <shadeslayer> :)
[17:30] <shadeslayer> i wont be able to :P
[17:31] <lex79> add a file KUBUNTU.TODO and write that we have to fix that patch
[17:31] <lex79> and before to push in bzr, run "bzr add"
[17:32] <Nightrose> for the record: apachelogger is the awesome
[17:32] <Nightrose> i have a working system again
[17:32] <Nightrose> \o/
[17:34] <mfraz74> Upgraded to KDE 4.5 RC 2 today and I now have an extra app on the menu - ExpoBlending
[17:35] <mfraz74> If I try to run it, I'm told that it is unable to find align_image_stack executable.
[17:38] <shadeslayer> lex79: ^^ we need to add a dep on hugin on that package
[17:38] <shadeslayer> where ever it comes from :P
[17:38] <shadeslayer> mfraz74: install hugin till then
[17:39] <mfraz74> point is, I shouldn't have apps appear on the menu that require something else to be installed before I use them
[17:39] <mfraz74> and that I didn't ask for
[17:42] <shadeslayer> mfraz74: i know,this does seem to be a issue
[17:42] <lex79> I don't thin it comes from KDE packages
[17:42] <lex79> *think
[17:42] <mfraz74> shadeslayer: it seems to have something to do with kipiplugins
[17:43] <lex79> we haven't updated kipiplugins in these days
[17:44] <mfraz74> lex79: it wasn't there with kde 4.5 rc1 though
[17:45] <mfraz74> with a new install how come in Konqueror 2 shortcuts are assigned to ctrl-shift-F5?
[17:47] <shadeslayer> mfraz74: that is with konsole and kopete too... ctrl+Shift+W
[17:47] <mfraz74> shadeslayer: would that be something to mention on the 100 papercuts page?
[17:48] <shadeslayer> mfraz74: more likely on b.k.o
[17:49] <mfraz74> shadeslayer: ok
[17:57] <neversfelde> shadeslayer: I think it is better to remove this desktop entry, I did this for the Lucid package, seems that it got lost somewhere
[17:57] <shadeslayer> neversfelde: what where who?
[17:58] <neversfelde> shadeslayer: Expoblending
[17:58] <neversfelde> that comes from digikam
[17:58] <shadeslayer> ohh ... lex79 ^^
[17:59] <shadeslayer> neversfelde: do you have upload rights to ppa's ?
[17:59] <shadeslayer> the kubuntu ones...
[17:59] <neversfelde> sure
[17:59] <shadeslayer> feel free to upload then :P
[17:59] <shadeslayer> but consult with lex79 first :P
[18:01] <neversfelde> probably it is kipi and not digikam, I am not sure about it anymore
[18:01] <neversfelde> I can have a look at it next week
[18:01] <shadeslayer> hehe
[18:04] <CIA-33> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1148712 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/ (6 files in 2 dirs) Add a worker function to update the apt-xapian-index, and add WorkerEvent enum members for start/finish
[18:05] <CIA-33> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1148713 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/backend.cpp kDebug()--
[18:05] <CIA-33> [muon] jmthomas * 1148714 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/MainWindow.cpp Check if the xapian index needs updating on application and after updating the cache, and tell the backend to update the cache if needed.
[18:05] <JontheEchidna> ~karma kDebug()
[18:05] <kubotu> karma for kDebug(): -1
[18:06] <shadeslayer> heh
[18:07] <JontheEchidna> well, now search should show packages from newly added repositories :)
[18:07] <apachelogger> Nightrose: framebuffer is working?
[18:07] <JontheEchidna> before it wouldn't until the apt-xapian-index cronjob
[18:07] <lex79> shadeslayer: I don't think neversfelde has to consult with me :)
[18:07] <apachelogger> kubotu: karma pyton
[18:07] <kubotu> pyton has neutral karma
[18:08] <apachelogger> kubotu: karma python
[18:08] <kubotu> karma for python: -13
[18:08] <apachelogger> ah
[18:08] <shadeslayer> lex79: :D
[18:08] <apachelogger> very appropriate
[18:08] <apachelogger> python--
[18:08] <shadeslayer> hehehe
[18:08] <apachelogger> javascript--
[18:08] <KRF> python+
[18:08] <KRF> python++
[18:08] <shadeslayer> ~karma ruby
[18:08] <kubotu> karma for ruby: 1
[18:08] <shadeslayer> :o
[18:08] <KRF> ruby--
[18:08]  * apachelogger considers giving up on FlashingLabel :(
[18:08] <shadeslayer> ruby++
[18:08] <shadeslayer> ruby++
[18:08] <apachelogger> FlashingLabel--
[18:08] <Nightrose> apachelogger: it doesn't look good but works until i find someone to solve the actual problem when i have more time
[18:08] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: what did you do to fix the issue?
[18:10] <apachelogger> Nightrose: FWIW you could get a daily image or alpha of maverick and try that
[18:10] <Nightrose> i could also shoot myself in the foot
[18:10] <Nightrose> ;-)
[18:10] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: vesafication
[18:10] <apachelogger> Nightrose: well, just the live cd
[18:10] <apachelogger> since lucid live is also failing
[18:10] <Nightrose> ah
[18:10] <Nightrose> yea
[18:10] <Nightrose> good idea
[18:10] <apachelogger> if maverick live worked you would know that maverick solves the issue
[18:11] <apachelogger> which is already more than what we know now :)
[18:11] <Nightrose> indeed
[18:12] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: vesafication?
[18:12] <shadeslayer> the vesa driver?
[18:13] <shadeslayer> http://pastebin.com/AaTJy3ca : hmm
[18:13] <shadeslayer> lex79: ^^
[18:25] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: aye
[18:29]  * apachelogger giggles like mad
[18:44] <apachelogger> Quintasan: ping ping ping pingpignngngngn
[18:46] <apachelogger> omg!!!!!!!
[18:46] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: pingy
[18:47] <JontheEchidna> png
[18:47] <JontheEchidna> *pong
[18:47] <apachelogger> Quintasan, JontheEchidna: http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/screencasts/tfp.ogv
[18:47] <apachelogger> this is way too epic
[18:48] <JontheEchidna> it turns pink!
[18:48] <apachelogger> way better than flashinglabel :D
[18:51] <lex79> shadeslayer: I have no time today....
[19:02] <shadeslayer> lex79: k
[19:08] <neversfelde> Riddell: I had a look at koffice, it build, but now it failed in the ppa, probably a problem with the Qt transition. I need to test it again, so it'll need more time, but I am working on it
[19:09] <shadeslayer> neversfelde: Riddell has no interwebs :P
[19:09] <neversfelde> mhh
[19:09] <neversfelde> why? :)
[19:10] <lex79> maybe he can read the back log
[19:10] <lex79> or the log in irc logs ubuntu
[19:10] <lex79> Hi Riddell !!!
[19:10] <lex79> LoL
[19:11] <neversfelde> sure, it is nothing important 
[19:16] <lex79> JontheEchidna: still ftbs ;( http://launchpadlibrarian.net/51737936/buildlog_ubuntu-maverick-amd64.kdepimlibs_4:4.4.92-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[19:31] <apachelogger> now I dunno
[19:31] <apachelogger> a nowplaying thingy is not particularly fancy
[19:31] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: :/
[19:32] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: ok,im designing a plugin for rbot which searches kde svn
[19:32] <shadeslayer> something like !google :p
[19:33] <apachelogger> hm
[19:33] <apachelogger> it seems there is a bug
[19:33] <apachelogger> omg
[19:33] <apachelogger> possibly because play/pause is one button and signal emission is not finished when the dataengine calls for upadate
[19:39] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/screencasts/nowplaying1.ogv
[19:39]  * shadeslayer lools
[19:40] <shadeslayer> whuz happening
[19:41] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: looks good :D
[19:41] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: pastebin code will ya :D
[19:43] <apachelogger> argh
[19:44] <apachelogger> ewww
[19:44] <apachelogger> now this is hackish shit right there
[19:46] <apachelogger> now it doesnt work no more
[19:47] <apachelogger> fragile++
[19:48] <apachelogger> ah bangarang broke it
[19:48] <apachelogger> bangarang--
[20:05] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: around?
[20:05] <shadeslayer> if var print "foobaz" end << in ruby , checks var for what values?
[20:06]  * shadeslayer is amazed how ruby does not use ; to show the end of a sentence
[20:10] <apachelogger> in ruby you use puts anyway :P
[20:10] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: for any true value :P
[20:10] <shadeslayer> hmm
[20:10] <shadeslayer> k
[20:10]  * shadeslayer is trying to grasp the concept of nil and false
[20:11] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: well, false is a bool and nil is, well, null
[20:12] <shadeslayer> ah.. that way... false == 0 and nill == null
[20:12] <apachelogger> you are thinking about it the wrong way :P
[20:12] <apachelogger> false is false
[20:13] <shadeslayer> ok
[20:13] <shadeslayer> like true and false right
[20:13] <apachelogger> well, bool :P
[20:13] <shadeslayer> got it :)
[20:13] <shadeslayer> like in C++ , bool a=false
[20:13] <apachelogger> under no circumstances must you asume that false == 0
[20:14] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: false is a seprate keyword,thats what your saying
[20:14] <apachelogger> in fact you can do v=false; if v then puts "a" end; v=0; if v then puts "a" end
[20:14] <shadeslayer> ooh
[20:15] <shadeslayer> it still wont print anything to screen tho :P
[20:15] <shadeslayer> or will it?
[20:15] <rbelem> hey apachelogger, can you take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-mobile/+bug/604364 ?
[20:15] <rbelem> :-)
[20:15] <apachelogger> last one will yield a
[20:15] <apachelogger> exactly because !(false == 0)
[20:15] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: got it :)
[20:16] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: btw there was a online ruby terminal too  right?
[20:17]  * apachelogger is wondering how to convert a qvariant(qpixmap) to a qpixmap in qtscript
[20:17] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: dude
[20:17] <apachelogger> !irb
[20:17] <apachelogger> !info irb
[20:17] <apachelogger> also, rbot can do eval
[20:18] <apachelogger> kubotu: eval puts "a"
[20:18] <apachelogger> well, maybe not mine :D
[20:18] <apachelogger> or maybe the command is another one
[20:19] <shadeslayer> uh
[20:19] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://pastebin.com/4cQu35vb
[20:19] <shadeslayer> how come it removes ruby? 0_o
[20:21] <apachelogger> *shrug*
[20:21] <apachelogger> ruby is only a meta package anyway
[20:23] <apachelogger> rbelem: can you upload that to revu?
[20:24] <apachelogger> I am getting a headache from using bug reports for updates
[20:24] <rbelem> apachelogger, ok :-)
[20:24] <apachelogger> also you might want to poke translators
[20:24] <apachelogger> +Name[nds]=Digitaalklock (QLM)
[20:24] <apachelogger> supposedly even in nds QML would be QML
[20:25] <apachelogger> rbelem: also, whatever happened to -plasma-mobile (0.0~svn20100617-0ubuntu2) maverick; urgency=low
[20:25] <apachelogger> did you base the update on ubuntu1?
[20:25] <apachelogger> !info plasma-mobile
[20:25] <apachelogger> !info plasma-mobile maverick
[20:25] <apachelogger> rbelem: ought to be based on ubutnu2 :)
[20:25] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: http://paste.ubuntu.com/462187/
[20:26] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: whoa :D
[20:26] <apachelogger> http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/screencasts/tfp.ogv is better though
[20:27] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: so your gonna show this on UDW?
[20:27] <apachelogger> possibly
[20:27] <shadeslayer> lol
[20:27] <apachelogger> unless I come up with hotter stuff
[20:27] <apachelogger> something webkitty is always fun
[20:27] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: you mean fluffier stuff
[20:28] <apachelogger> well, isnt my plasma theme fluffy enough? :P
[20:28] <apachelogger> I could write an animation that makes a pony ride along the border of the widget
[20:28] <apachelogger> muahaha
[20:28] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: idk.. i mean.. many people would be looking at plasma code for first time.. like me
[20:28] <apachelogger> add that to the trollface and 
[20:28] <apachelogger> omg
[20:28] <apachelogger> that would be overkill
[20:28] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: hehe
[20:29] <apachelogger> well, I am not sure if I want to teach people how to write plasmoids :P
[20:29] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: btw kubotu doenst know any facts
[20:29] <shadeslayer> :)
[20:29] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: why?
[20:29] <shadeslayer> kubotu: fact 1
[20:29] <kubotu> fact #1 of 1: lex79 owes me a new laptop if this one is blown to pieces [from evilshadeslayer!~shadeslay@ubuntu/member/shadeslayer on Sun Jul 11 03:03:15 +0300 2010 in #kubuntu-devel]
[20:29] <apachelogger> because starting from 0 learning javascript + KDE + Qt + Plasma in one hour is quite the effort
[20:29] <shadeslayer> which is about it :P
[20:30] <apachelogger> hence i generally find it better to just show off cool and awesome shit to motivate 
[20:30] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: thats why.. design simpler plasmoid :p
[20:30] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: lulz
[20:30] <apachelogger> nowplaying is simple :P
[20:30] <shadeslayer> yeah :)
[20:30] <apachelogger> and yet I doubt a lot of people will understand what is going on
[20:30] <shadeslayer> looks simple..
[20:30] <shadeslayer> hehe
[20:31] <shadeslayer> i can understand the meta programming
[20:31] <apachelogger> there is some nifty stuff going on ... overloading a function for example
[20:31] <apachelogger> and in general inteacting with stuff outside the scope of the code
[20:31] <apachelogger> whereas the trollface is straight forward
[20:31] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: which function did you overload?
[20:31] <apachelogger> dataUpdated
[20:31]  * shadeslayer has no idea of plasma funcions
[20:31] <apachelogger> well, in this context I woul dnot mention overloading ^^
[20:32] <apachelogger> more like, redefine or something
[20:32] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: btw where did you defin the plasmoid object :P
[20:33] <apachelogger> I did not :P
[20:33] <apachelogger> see
[20:33] <apachelogger> :P
[20:33]  * shadeslayer drools in horror
[20:33] <apachelogger> it is of global scope coming from the scriptengine itself
[20:33] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: ooh
[20:33] <shadeslayer> nice
[20:34] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: no need to define any headers as well?
[20:34] <shadeslayer> or are the basic ones included...
[20:34] <shadeslayer> also.. what does the function keyword do there :P
[20:34] <apachelogger> nothing to do, just write code and be done with it
[20:34] <rbelem> apachelogger, i just uploaded to revu http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/plasma-mobile
[20:35] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: i guess thats why plasma is so bloated :P
[20:35] <shadeslayer> includes all headers and modules and whatnot
[20:35] <apachelogger> layout = new LinearLayout(plasmoid);
[20:35] <apachelogger> label = new Label();
[20:35] <apachelogger> label.text = "hi";
[20:35] <apachelogger> layout.addItem(label);
[20:35] <apachelogger> that is about the simplest plasmoid you can do
[20:35] <shadeslayer> thats somewhat like Qt
[20:36] <apachelogger> ahhh
[20:36]  * apachelogger typed sl
[20:36] <apachelogger> omg
[20:36] <rbelem> :-D
[20:36] <shadeslayer> only Qt uses QLabel instead
[20:36] <apachelogger> !info sl
[20:36] <shadeslayer> hehe
[20:36] <shadeslayer> lol... 
[20:37] <shadeslayer> nice train :P
[20:37] <apachelogger> horrible if you have a wide terminal :P
[20:37] <shadeslayer> rofl
[20:37] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: just uninstall sl then :P
[20:37] <apachelogger> that is no fun
[20:38] <shadeslayer> omg.. my root partition is 13 GB used :S
[20:38] <apachelogger> also I type sl 99% less often ever since I have it installed :P
[20:38] <shadeslayer> btw whats the score?
[20:39] <rbelem> apachelogger, did you try sl -a?
[20:39] <rbelem> and sl -al
[20:39] <apachelogger> ah
[20:39] <shadeslayer> 0:0 hmmm
[20:39] <apachelogger> rofl
[20:40] <rbelem> haahha :-D
[20:40] <apachelogger> rbelem: never did that before :D
[20:40] <rbelem> that's really nice
[20:40] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: use with -F as well :P
[20:41] <rbelem> wow
[20:41] <rbelem> i did not see that before
[20:41] <shadeslayer> rbelem: man sl :P
[20:41] <rbelem> hum....
[20:43] <apachelogger> rbelem: revu'd
[20:43] <rbelem> apachelogger, yep :-) http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/plasma-mobile
[20:43] <apachelogger> I mean, I revu'd it :P
[20:43] <rbelem> ah! ok
[20:43] <rbelem> :-D
[20:45] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: puts "foo" if var puts "foob" unless var
[20:45] <rbelem> i will make the changes now :-)
[20:45] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: isnt unless useless at the end?
[20:46] <shadeslayer> coming from a C++ background... its if(var) cout<<"foo" else cout <<"Foobaz"
[20:48] <shadeslayer> i really ought to fix qipmsg :P
[20:48] <shadeslayer> but im too lazy :S
[20:49] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: well, in general that example there is bonkers, but as it stands it is not useless :P
[20:49] <apachelogger> otehrwise puts "foob" would always occur
[20:50] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: generally the example is however what you wrote in cpp
[20:50] <shadeslayer> mm
[20:50] <apachelogger> just that you cannot do puts "foo" if var puts "foobar" and have the right hand side executed if condition is false
[20:51] <apachelogger> no one writes that shit that way though
[20:51] <apachelogger> well
[20:51] <apachelogger> rails people probably do :P
[20:51] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: thats from why's poignant guide :P
[20:51] <apachelogger> there is bad coding style there, a lot of it
[20:52] <apachelogger> which might be intentional
[20:52] <shadeslayer> ok another example there is : print "foo" if(var) unless (var2)
[20:52] <apachelogger> to provide a good overview on how many ways you have to archive something
[20:52] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: that makes sense
[20:52] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: how?
[20:53] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: is it interpreted from left to right?
[20:53] <apachelogger> print foo if var but only if there is no var2
[20:53] <shadeslayer> uh
[20:53] <shadeslayer> right to left
[20:53] <apachelogger> aye
[20:53] <shadeslayer> 0_o
[20:53] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: whut?
[20:53] <apachelogger> you would also not write it that way :P
[20:53] <apachelogger> exactlu because of that whut :P
[20:54] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: how would you write it then? :)
[20:54] <apachelogger> well, rails devs would probably write it like that + bringing a global var into the game and then use implicity return values
[20:55] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: if !var2 then print foo if var end in 3 lines
[20:55] <apachelogger> depend on the vars of course
[20:55] <apachelogger> if there if there is logical connection if !var2 && var print foo end might be the code of choice
[20:56] <apachelogger> Nightrose: I am unloved
[20:57] <apachelogger> oh
[20:57] <Nightrose> apachelogger: you are? no way!
[20:57]  * Nightrose sends some love to apachelogger
[20:57] <apachelogger> \o/
[20:57]  * apachelogger hugs and kisses Nightrose 
[20:57] <Nightrose> :*
[20:58]  * shadeslayer sends ruby love to apachelogger
[20:59] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: i like if !var2 print foo if var end better
[20:59] <apachelogger> ruby++
[20:59] <shadeslayer> more logical it is
[20:59] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: than unless? yeah
[20:59] <shadeslayer> yep
[20:59] <apachelogger> you'd use unless for real oneliners
[21:00] <apachelogger> like runGtkUi() unless foo == kde
[21:00] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: i like my code to be logical to read,rather than use stupid keywords and squashing code together 
[21:00] <apachelogger> or puts "hello" unless nodebug
[21:01] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: unless makes loads of sense in a lot of situations, just not in every :P
[21:01] <shadeslayer> hehe.. that i can see ^^
[21:01] <apachelogger> espescially with heavy procedural code unless has good uses
[21:01] <apachelogger> if you are mastering the fluently readable code writing
[21:01] <apachelogger> otherwise you might just as well use if !
[21:01] <apachelogger> ;)
[21:02] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: btw any other books on ruby i might read?
[21:03] <apachelogger> no
[21:03] <apachelogger> get hacking :P
[21:03] <shadeslayer> lol
[21:03] <apachelogger> ruby-doc.org is all you need
[21:03] <apachelogger> unless you do rails
[21:03] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: yeah,ill program something in this week,a plugin for rbot probably
[21:03] <apachelogger> then you really should read every book you can get hold of :P
[21:03] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: what _is_ ruby on rails?
[21:04] <apachelogger> because rails developers will use every feature and be it only there for compability reasons
[21:04] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: you could pick up on rbotbar :P
[21:04] <apachelogger> that one needs a major rewrite for years
[21:04] <shadeslayer> rbotbar?
[21:04] <apachelogger> never got to it
[21:04] <apachelogger> kubotu: order bar for shadeslayer
[21:04]  * kubotu slides Konqueror opening http://code.google.com/p/rbotbar/ down the bar to shadeslayer.
[21:04] <shadeslayer> oho
[21:05] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: ill poke it :D
[21:06] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: where do i put this plugin in,if i want to enable it? data/plugins?
[21:06] <apachelogger> I would put it into .rbot/plugins
[21:06] <apachelogger> hm
[21:06]  * apachelogger cant go home tomorrow evening -.-
[21:06] <apachelogger> bleh
[21:13] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: first i have to design a plugin that searches KDE svn for a keyword tho.. should be simple to do...
[21:13] <shadeslayer> but will take loads of my bandwidth probably :P
[21:17] <shadeslayer> oh... ill have to install windows :S
[21:17] <shadeslayer> found an insanely awesome game
[21:31] <Quintasan> GODDAMN YOU AND YOUR BROKEN PIPE
[21:31] <Quintasan> FFFFFFFUUUUU-
[21:38] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: ???
[21:38] <apachelogger> Quintasan: people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/screencasts/tfp.ogv
[21:38] <shadeslayer> lol
[21:38]  * apachelogger wishes he could fix all them buggies :(
[21:39] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: its the trollface vid?
[21:39] <shadeslayer> yeah... :D
[21:39] <apachelogger> it is a trollface alright
[21:41] <Quintasan> apachelogger: I fukkin approve of this
[21:41] <Quintasan> omg
[21:41] <Quintasan> it's spinning right round~!
[21:42] <apachelogger> aighto :D
[21:42] <shadeslayer> ;)
[21:42] <Quintasan> >tfp.ofv
[21:42] <Quintasan> trollface power?
[21:42] <Quintasan> :D
[21:42] <shadeslayer> hehe
[21:42] <apachelogger> yeah
[21:43] <apachelogger> or plasmoid
[21:43] <apachelogger> but power is surely better :P
[21:43] <Quintasan> Don't you dare release that
[21:44] <Quintasan> The demand will be too high for any type of connection to handle
[21:44] <Quintasan> :D
[21:45]  * apachelogger likes when launchpad times out
[21:45] <apachelogger> I shall upload it to ppa
[21:45] <apachelogger> then break launchpad alltogether
[21:45] <apachelogger> maybe we get something faster then
[21:46] <shadeslayer> Proposal: if the final is scoreless after extra time, the winner of the 3rd place match is the #worldcup champion. << lulz
[21:46] <Quintasan> apachelogger: Or we won't get anything at all
[21:46] <shadeslayer> and we lose K/Ubuntu al together :P
[21:46] <shadeslayer> like api.kde.org
[21:47] <apachelogger> Quintasan: we could switch to the superior opensuse build service
[21:47] <Quintasan> >openSUSE
[21:47] <Quintasan> wut
[21:48] <apachelogger> hm
[21:48] <apachelogger> I think launchpad is made out of timeouts
[21:48] <apachelogger> it is the very essence of lp
[21:50] <Quintasan> apachelogger: I somehow get the idea that they won't like you coming everyday to their channel and complaining your builds do not have priority 0 :P
[21:50] <apachelogger> to the launchpad channel?
[21:50] <shadeslayer> omg
[21:51]  * apachelogger never complains in the obs channel :P
[21:51] <shadeslayer> OAuth + Choqok work
[21:51] <apachelogger> I do that per query there
[21:54] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: btw is bluedevil better than bluez?
[21:54] <Quintasan> http://www.drpeterjones.com/hidden/hidden.html
[21:54] <Quintasan> check this out
[21:55] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: I dont even know what that is
[21:55] <apachelogger> kubotu: google linux bluedevil
[21:55] <kubotu> Results for linux bluedevil: 1. Bluedevil :: Scheduled FSCK - HostGator Peer Support Forums: http://forums.hostgator.com/bluedevil-scheduled-fsck-t67958.html?p=209568 | 2. BlueDevil - ih4xx.com: http://ih4xx.com/ | 3. Get to know the team: bluedevil: http://blogs.simplemachines.org/team/387248/Get+to+know+the+team%3A+bluedevil.html
[21:55] <apachelogger> must be important when google knows so much about it
[21:55] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: dunno, you should ask super mario, he is ubuntu's bluetooth overlord
[21:56] <shadeslayer> mm
[21:56] <shadeslayer> kubotu: google bluedevil kde
[21:56] <kubotu> Results for bluedevil kde: 1. Old Nabble - kde-core-devel - Bluedevil-KDED in kdereview: http://old.nabble.com/Bluedevil-KDED-in-kdereview-td28224049.html | 2. Software Libre, that's it (KDE, BlueDevil, Bluetooth, Kamoso): http://www.afiestas.org/ | 3. Software Libre, that's it (KDE, BlueDevil, Bluetooth, Kamoso) - Part 2: http://www.afiestas.org/page/2/
[21:56] <apachelogger> is that text built out of ascii hex values?
[21:56] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: that page is full of lol
[21:57] <apachelogger> otherwise I do not exactly get how a text can have source code
[21:58] <shadeslayer> i think spain just scored
[21:59] <apachelogger> what?
[22:00] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: the fifa world cup dude
[22:00] <shadeslayer> http://twitter.com/worldcup/home
[22:00] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: know the answer? :D
[22:00] <shadeslayer> #NED 0:1 #ESP: 116' Andres INIESTA (Spain) scores!!
[22:00] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: nope :P
[22:00] <shadeslayer> oh waut
[22:01] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: everything after contains a hidden message?
[22:01] <Quintasan> nope
[22:01] <Quintasan> it's related to cats
[22:01] <Quintasan> :P
[22:02] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: oh
[22:02] <apachelogger> ohhhh
[22:02] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: if you wget the page http://www.drpeterjones.com/hidden/hidden.html
[22:02] <apachelogger> is that now? 
[22:02] <shadeslayer> you get http://pastebin.com/12ei4AbJ
[22:02] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: its been on for 150 mins :D
[22:02] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: the page crys about javascript so with wget you wont get far supposedly
[22:02]  * apachelogger does not like the javascript in his browsers
[22:02] <apachelogger> neither do I like the flashy
[22:04]  * apachelogger is wondering whther to write his udw talk now or rather watch some tv
[22:04] <Quintasan> write it now
[22:04] <Quintasan> It is not like anyone is going to listen to it anyways :P
[22:06] <shadeslayer> hehe.. if you turn off JS it fails too
[22:06] <shadeslayer> :P
[22:06] <apachelogger> Quintasan: you will have to
[22:06] <apachelogger> so you can learn how to make a tfp
[22:07] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: whats the answer?
[22:08] <shadeslayer> yeah.. spain won.. as paul predicted :D
[22:08] <apachelogger> hm
[22:08] <apachelogger> oh
[22:08] <apachelogger> how about planet of the ood
[22:08] <shadeslayer> now the germans will kill paul and eat him for dinner :S
[22:08] <apachelogger> that is a great one IIRC
[22:09] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: who?
[22:09] <Quintasan> Packaging like a Ninja -- shadeslayer
[22:09] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: dont you even read the news paper :P
[22:09] <Quintasan> You'd better secure ur internetz for this
[22:09] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: yeah
[22:09] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: it is :)
[22:09] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: no
[22:10] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://www.google.co.in/search?q=paul+the+octopus&hl=en&prmd=nuv&source=univ&tbs=nws:1&tbo=u&ei=JzM6TI3rJ8W1rAeBpf22CA&sa=X&oi=news_group&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CCQQsQQwAA
[22:10] <Quintasan> who cares about a damn octopus?
[22:10] <shadeslayer> if that link could be any longer
[22:10] <apachelogger> around 11 I get up, make my morning code thinking, get lunch, do some hacking, get coffe, do the afternoon code thinking, get supper, do some asorted stuff, watch telly, go to bed
[22:10] <apachelogger> every day the same
[22:11] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: require "news/Newspaper" there
[22:11] <apachelogger> where would you squeeze that in?
[22:11] <apachelogger> besides
[22:11] <Quintasan> apachelogger: you get up at 11?
[22:11] <apachelogger> reading is inefficient
[22:11] <Quintasan> I am disappoint
[22:11] <apachelogger> how so?
[22:11] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: i sleep the whole day :P
[22:11] <shadeslayer> kode and stuff at night
[22:11] <Quintasan> LOLPOLOLOL
[22:12] <apachelogger> it is not like I sleep in bed
[22:12] <Quintasan> TROLLOLOLOL
[22:12]  * apachelogger goes there to think
[22:12] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: ya best be kidding me?
[22:12] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: its 3 AM right now
[22:12] <shadeslayer> :)
[22:12] <Quintasan> sleeping during the day == waste of time
[22:12] <shadeslayer> and guess what im doing 
[22:12] <Quintasan> sleeping more than 4 hours == waste of time
[22:12] <apachelogger> ack
[22:12] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: i tend to sleep on weekends :P
[22:12] <shadeslayer> for the lack of sleep on weekdays
[22:13] <Quintasan> well, I sleep about 3 hours a day and I'm functioning properly
[22:13] <Quintasan> well
[22:13] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: you still didnt tell us the answer
[22:13] <Quintasan> assuming that properly means the same for everyone :P
[22:14] <Quintasan> THE CAT SCREAMS AT MIDNIGHT
[22:14] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: wtf.. how?
[22:15] <Quintasan> http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/4577/zagadkape.jpg
[22:15] <apachelogger> my supremacy is rooting in the 5 hours per week
[22:15] <apachelogger> 3 hours a day is a lot of time
[22:15] <apachelogger> in 3 hours one could QA a whole starship
[22:15] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: oh gawd
[22:16] <shadeslayer> freaky
[22:16] <Quintasan> imagine my face when I failed at commenting out the fuctions
[22:16] <Quintasan> function*
[22:16] <shadeslayer> :P
[22:23] <rbelem> hey apachelogger, i uploaded the package again with the changes
[22:24] <apachelogger> rbelem: do you by any chance have a pbuild or ppa build log of that? ^^
[22:25] <rbelem> hum... let me check
[22:32] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: any difference between 'foo' and "foo" in ruby?
[22:35] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: no, well, yes, not like in C anyway
[22:35] <apachelogger> basically they are the same
[22:35] <apachelogger> BUT
[22:35] <apachelogger> with single quotes you can only escape ' and \ (latter because of \') obviously
[22:35] <apachelogger> other than that no escapes are supported
[22:36] <shadeslayer> ahh
[22:36] <apachelogger> double quotes OTOH support all usual escapes
[22:36] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: hows neon coming along?
[22:36] <apachelogger> such as \n \t \s etc.
[22:36] <apachelogger> also in double quotes you can embed code
[22:36] <shadeslayer> hmm..
[22:37] <shadeslayer> so i guess "" > ''
[22:37] <shadeslayer> in most cases
[22:37] <apachelogger> yeah
[22:37] <apachelogger> unless you want to output literal code though :)
[22:37] <apachelogger> which is about the only realy use for single quotation
[22:37] <shadeslayer> literal code?
[22:38] <apachelogger> or quoting a lot of double quote text
[22:38] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: 'to include a variable in a ruby string use #{var}'
[22:39] <apachelogger> in a double quoation you would have to escape that
[22:39] <shadeslayer> http://techrights.org/2010/07/11/waugh-on-canonical/ <<
[22:39] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: ah right
[22:42] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: I want to get that crap installed to /opt/project-neon
[22:42] <Quintasan> and I got broken pipe during the build
[22:42] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: kde != crap :)
[22:42] <Quintasan> It must be restarted now
[22:42] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: heh :P
[22:48] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna bashes digitizor @ http://digitizor.com/2010/07/09/kubuntu-netbook-remix-is-now-dead/
[22:48] <shadeslayer> oh .. maco and bigrovar too :D
[22:49] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: ++
[22:53] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: i think we should add a option to kdm to choose between netbook or desktop
[22:53] <shadeslayer> or.. show a dialog box on startup
[22:54] <jussio1> heya all
[22:54] <jussio1> anyone about?
[22:56] <shadeslayer> yeah
[22:56] <shadeslayer> jussio1: ssup?
[22:57] <shadeslayer> please dont ask me to package something tho :P
[22:57] <jussio1> shadeslayer: I still cant seem to install maverick :/
[22:57] <jussio1> still doesnt find my main HDD
[22:57] <shadeslayer> jussio1: latest build?
[22:57] <shadeslayer> jussio1: does ubuntu find it? ( not Kubuntu )
[22:58] <jussio1> yeah, updated the installer and everything. perhaps Ill try with apci off
[22:58] <jussio1> not tried
[22:58] <shadeslayer> jussio1: and try nomodset as well
[22:58] <jussio1> whats the exact acpi command do you know?
[22:59] <shadeslayer> jussio1: acpi=off
[22:59] <jussio1> ok, thanks. lemme go try
[22:59]  * shadeslayer thinks ubuntu has bad wikis
[23:00] <shadeslayer> they dont even have a proper theme :S
[23:00] <shadeslayer> sheytan is not around too :P
[23:09] <shadeslayer> hmm... any kubuntu website people around?
[23:09] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: also i need some info
[23:10] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: on bugs.lp suppose i want to set the importance of a bug.. how do i get proper privilliges for that? 
[23:10] <shadeslayer> * privileges
[23:11] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: apply for it
[23:11] <apachelogger> well, first you need to proof yourself
[23:11] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: where?
[23:11] <apachelogger> than you can apply for it
[23:11] <apachelogger> or you become proper dev :P
[23:11] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: ill apply for it,ive done proper triage i think :P
[23:11] <apachelogger> then check the wikily
[23:12] <apachelogger> somewhere there ought to be a how to apply for bugcontrol membership
[23:12] <shadeslayer> btw if there are any kubuntu.com handlers around please see bug 579588
[23:12] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: ^^ example of my triage :P
[23:14] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: brrrrrr https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-bugcontrol/+members#proposed
[23:15] <jussio1> sigh
[23:15] <jussio1> still no go.
[23:15] <shadeslayer> jussio1: :(
[23:16] <shadeslayer> jussio1: ok so,does fdisk -l pick it up?
[23:16] <jussio1> its strange, becase the disks are listed and accessible through dolphin
[23:16] <shadeslayer> jussio1: ooh.. issue in ubiquity then
[23:16] <shadeslayer> jussio1: can you file a bug from live session and poke #ubuntu-installer?
[23:16] <apachelogger> rbelem: I think lex79 broke maverick so I cannot testbuild right now, should be good otheriwse though
[23:17] <jussio1> wait, nothing on fdisk -l though
[23:17] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: yeah,maverick is br0ken :P
[23:17] <lex79> :)
[23:17] <rbelem> eheheh
[23:17] <jussio1> lex79: !
[23:18] <lex79> I'm waiting if pimlibs now can be built
[23:18] <rbelem> apachelogger, i'm trying to build plasma-mobile with pbuilder, but i'm getting error
[23:18] <rbelem> errors
[23:18] <rbelem> in pbuilder
[23:18] <rbelem> :-(
[23:18] <apachelogger> yeah
[23:18] <apachelogger> broken build chain
[23:18] <apachelogger> here too
[23:18] <apachelogger> upload will have to wait until that is resolved anyway
[23:18] <rbelem> no problem
[23:18]  * apachelogger exceeded ballmer peak already, so he cant right now :)
[23:18] <rbelem> ;-)
[23:19] <jussio1> ooh
[23:19] <jussio1> also, doesn anyone elses maverick rekonq crash on going to pastebin.com ?
[23:20] <shadeslayer> jussio1: just going to pastebin.com?
[23:20] <jussio1> yup
[23:20] <shadeslayer> works for me (tm)
[23:20] <shadeslayer> jussio1: old qt version i guess
[23:21] <jussio1> shadeslayer: k. btw, here is my df -h: http://pastebin.com/B7dyDd51
[23:21] <jussio1> (konqueror saved my bacon)
[23:22] <shadeslayer> jussio1: btw is the hd formatted in GPT in any case?
[23:22] <jussio1> no
[23:22] <jussio1> straight ext3
[23:22] <shadeslayer> jussio1: GPT is the partition table .. not the format :D
[23:22] <jussio1> 2 partitions as you can see, my / and /home
[23:22] <jussio1> oh
[23:22] <shadeslayer> GPT, MBR ,etc
[23:22] <jussio1> no idea
[23:22] <jussio1> whatever lucids default is.
[23:24] <lex79> apachelogger: kdepimlibs still ftbs :(
[23:24] <lex79> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/51746832/buildlog_ubuntu-maverick-i386.kdepimlibs_4:4.4.92-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[23:24] <lex79> it's qtwebkit fault :(
[23:24] <apachelogger> webkit--
[23:25] <shadeslayer> jussio1: well.. youll have to report a bug... file it against ubiquity,and you can also mention in the description that dolphin opens the partitions fine
[23:26] <shadeslayer> and then keep haggling people at #ubuntu-installer :P
[23:27] <lex79> apachelogger: kdepimlibs build log before said qtwebkit 4.7~beta2 is needed, now that error is fixed, but libplasma3 and libkdewebkit are still not installable
[23:27] <lex79> I think kdelibs needed rebuild against the latest qtwebkit :(
[23:27] <apachelogger>   libkdewebkit5: Depends: libqt4-webkit (>= 4:4.7.0~beta2) but 4:4.7.0~beta1+git20100706-0ubuntu1 is to be installed.
[23:27] <apachelogger>   libplasma3: Depends: libqt4-webkit (>= 4:4.7.0~beta2) but 4:4.7.0~beta1+git20100706-0ubuntu1 is to be installed.
[23:27] <apachelogger> that is what I get
[23:28] <lex79> nope
[23:28] <lex79> kdelibs5-dev: Depends: libplasma3 (= 4:4.4.92-0ubuntu2) but it is not going to be installed
[23:28] <lex79>                 Depends: libkdewebkit5 (= 4:4.4.92-0ubuntu2) but it is not going to be installed
[23:28] <lex79> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/51746832/buildlog_ubuntu-maverick-i386.kdepimlibs_4:4.4.92-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[23:28] <apachelogger> yeah
[23:28] <apachelogger> but
[23:28] <apachelogger> why do I get that :P
[23:29] <apachelogger> even though you say it is fixed? :P
[23:29] <lex79> I uploaded qtwebkit 4:4.7.0~beta2 two hours ago
[23:29] <lex79> and it's built
[23:29] <apachelogger> also published?
[23:30] <apachelogger> because usually when it is published it should be available at archive.ubuntu.com
[23:30] <apachelogger> which currently does not seem to be the case
[23:30] <lex79> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtwebkit/4:4.7.0~beta2-0ubuntu1
[23:31] <lex79> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/q/qtwebkit/
[23:31] <lex79> uhm
[23:31] <apachelogger> very odd
[23:31] <apachelogger> well
[23:31] <apachelogger> maybe it will still take a bit
[23:31] <lex79> LP--
[23:32] <jussio1> bug 604395
[23:32] <jussio1> shadeslayer: 
[23:32] <jussio1> shadeslayer: I need to sleep, but if you could bug -installer a bit that would be nice
[23:32] <jussio1> nini all
[23:33] <shadeslayer> jussi01: ill forward the bug ;)
[23:33] <maxwellian> !karma > maxwellian 
[23:34]  * maxwellian blushes
[23:36] <maxwellian> Does that qt++ LP-- business actually do something?
[23:38] <yofel> ~karma webkit
[23:38] <kubotu> karma for webkit: -1
[23:39] <yofel> maxwellian: it's for this ;)
[23:40] <maxwellian> I've seen that done, but what does it mean?
[23:40] <maxwellian> Is it just a way of expressing opinion about the software?
[23:40]  * maxwellian turns gray, thinking he might have actually affected the karma with his question