| yofel | odd, "from gi.repository import GObject" works fine here... | 00:01 |
|---|---|---|
| yofel | oh nice, aptitude 0.6.3-2ubuntu2 is built, finally no hopelessly outdated aptitude in ubuntu anymore :D | 00:04 |
| Jordan_U | yofel: Of course, now it's not included by default :) | 00:05 |
| yofel | uh yeah, right.. | 00:06 |
| yofel | well, it makes sense from a disk space point of view | 00:06 |
| yofel | aptitude-gtk feels odd though, can't wait for muon :D | 00:08 |
| GatoLoko | BUGabundo i was afk, my gpu may be faster, but the speed diference may be because i'm using nouveau and xorg edgers instead of nvidia | 00:32 |
| BUGabundo | true | 00:34 |
| BUGabundo | that will justify it | 00:34 |
| GatoLoko | at least with clearlooks the progres bar only eats 30% cpu, 70% less cpu usage with a simple theme change is something incredible | 00:39 |
| GatoLoko | xD | 00:39 |
| zakscott | gatoloko: have you gotten 3d drivers working for nouveau? | 00:44 |
| GatoLoko | zakscott yes, it's included in edgers packages | 00:45 |
| GatoLoko | OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on NV86 | 00:46 |
| GatoLoko | i can even play foobillard, warsow and other 3D games | 00:47 |
| GatoLoko | but things like flash don't even try to use the gpu because the "glx vendor" field sais SGI | 00:49 |
| zakscott | any good howtos on getting that running? | 00:52 |
| GatoLoko | 3D performance isn't spectacular, but it's good enough for a desktop, even some basic compiz efects may work at a reasonable speed | 00:52 |
| GatoLoko | i didn't need to do anything, just added edgers ppa, aplied all the updates and closed the session, once i loged in again it was working automatically | 00:53 |
| zakscott | i might just wait till nvidia releases drivers for the ion chip, hopefully soon | 00:55 |
| GatoLoko | sudo add-apt-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa && sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude full-upgrade | 00:55 |
| GatoLoko | that's all i did | 00:55 |
| zakscott | "W: GPG error: http://www.avenard.org jaunty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 43C5D7EA63702FD3" | 00:58 |
| GatoLoko | that isn't related to edgers, i think | 00:59 |
| zakscott | my mistake | 01:01 |
| GatoLoko | the most important things lacking in nouveau, imho, are power management and vdpau/vaapi | 01:03 |
| GatoLoko | with power management i would use it over nvidias blob even on laptops | 01:03 |
| zakscott | ok installed, gona reboot, wish me luck | 01:05 |
| yofel | hm, 3D works with stock nouveau in maverick too, but it doesn't support a bunch of glx extensions that a few kwin effects want, so I'm back on nvidia | 01:07 |
| BUGabundo | it does? | 01:08 |
| GatoLoko | last time i used stop xorg on maverick was on alpha1 and there was no 3D, at least for my card | 01:09 |
| BUGabundo | I thought we still needed to use the PPA for 3D | 01:09 |
| GatoLoko | stock | 01:09 |
| GatoLoko | if maverick final supports nouveau 3D, i'm not touching nvidias driver ever again | 01:10 |
| GatoLoko | xD | 01:10 |
| yofel | hm, edgers: 1:0.0.16+git20100707.db98ad23-0ubuntu0sarvatt | 01:11 |
| yofel | !info xserver-xorg-video-nouveau | 01:11 |
| ubottu | xserver-xorg-video-nouveau (source: xserver-xorg-video-nouveau): X.Org X server -- Nouveau display driver (experimental). In component main, is optional. Version 1:0.0.16+git20100518+4b8f1a0-0ubuntu1 (maverick), package size 265 kB, installed size 452 kB | 01:11 |
| GatoLoko | one of my systems doesn't work right with nvidia's driver, it freezes every 2/3 days, with various cards, and the only "fix" is to disable agp or change nvidia's driver for any other | 01:12 |
| GatoLoko | even nouveau works for weeks without freezing | 01:13 |
| yofel | meh, but 598849 is annoying... | 01:32 |
| yofel | *bug 598849 | 01:32 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 598849 in dpkg (Ubuntu) "After reboot after update, alot more memory is used" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/598849 | 01:32 |
| zakscott | yah so edgers rocks | 01:44 |
| ChogyDan | yofel: why is it annoying? isn't it just cache? | 01:52 |
| yofel | no, something is using about 1GiB of RES memory on my notebook after reboot here (at least 'sysctl -w vm.drop_caches=3; free' doesn't show any change) | 01:54 |
| yofel | if I immediately reboot again it doesn't happen | 01:55 |
| yofel | at first glance I would blame ureadahead re-profiling, but I don't have any hard evidence for that | 01:55 |
| yofel | here the bootcharts from both boots: http://yofel.dyndns.org/ext/bootchart/yofel-t510-maverick-20100711-1.png http://yofel.dyndns.org/ext/bootchart/yofel-t510-maverick-20100711-2.png | 01:59 |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| Dink | I currently run 10.04 UNR on an acer250 would this bug affect me if I upgrade???... "Unity does not provide a non-3D fallback" | 04:00 |
| Dink | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/600567 | 04:00 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 600567 in unity (Ubuntu) "Unity does not provide a non-3D fallback" [High,Won't fix] | 04:00 |
| ubuntu | hello? | 04:40 |
| ubuntu | hello? | 04:40 |
| roky | How is 10.10 working out for you guys ? | 06:03 |
| ManDay | !when | 07:29 |
| Guest98471 | ah, good, finally | 10:35 |
| Guest98471 | anyone noticed that libqt4-webkit beta 2 packages are missing in maverick now? | 10:35 |
| Guest98471 | so a dist-upgrade kills all kde packages and one is left with a nice tty ;P | 10:35 |
| Guest98471 | (ie, all kde packages are removed, tries updating them, but cannot install them due to missing libqt4) | 10:36 |
| Guest98471 | (I hope this is the right channel to report, given that #kubuntu guys pointed me here, and that I cannot access the web to report properly) | 10:37 |
| yofel | Guest98471: indeed o.O | 10:47 |
| yofel | Guest98471: seems to be a bit of a mess... http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/07/10/%23kubuntu-devel.html#t19:36 | 10:55 |
| Guest98471 | uhm... I'll try reading that using links ;) | 10:57 |
| yofel | Guest98471: oh, you could read http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/07/10/%23kubuntu-devel.txt too, but I can't link you to the post there ;) | 11:00 |
| Guest98471 | ah thanks | 11:00 |
| Guest98471 | that's easier | 11:00 |
| yofel | searching for webkit will send you to "[19:36] * lex79 wants explain our qtwebkit mess to apachelogger" though | 11:00 |
| Guest98471 | thanks! reading through. Yes, it's fun | 11:04 |
| Guest98471 | ok, it seems I'm bound to install wm2, chrome as browser, and google docs as office suit, for a while | 11:20 |
| lapion | bound or doomed ? | 11:26 |
| Guest98471 | no, doomed is when your binutils do not match with anything else, no statically linked shell exist in the system, framebuffer mode is broken, and you have lilo instead of grub | 11:35 |
| Guest98471 | oh well no, you can still get a live cd | 11:35 |
| BUGabundo | morning | 11:58 |
| karan | i need help | 13:14 |
| karan | i hve 10.10 installed on my desktop | 13:14 |
| karan | how to put the same in my netbook | 13:14 |
| ikonia | please be aware that 10.10 is unstable and may fail at any time | 13:15 |
| ikonia | !install | karan | 13:15 |
| ubottu | karan: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate | 13:15 |
| karan | i hve a 10.04 cd with me | 13:17 |
| karan | how to make angie iso of dat on pendrive | 13:17 |
| karan | *an | 13:17 |
| ikonia | karan: the install url's listed above should explain that | 13:18 |
| Guest98471 | it looks like dpkg -is less picky about packages than apt... thankfully i managed to manually restore kde (sort of) | 13:21 |
| karan | i hve a single drive on my netbook..in which currently windows is been installed so can i install 10.04 in the same partition | 13:37 |
| penguin42 | karan: This channel is only for discussion of the next version of Ubuntu (10.10) - please check in #ubuntu for stuff about 10.04 | 13:39 |
| karan | fine..also can i install 10.10 | 13:40 |
| karan | in d same manner | 13:40 |
| karan | penguin42 i need help | 13:40 |
| penguin42 | I'm not sure, I've not had experience of installing with Windows | 13:40 |
| karan | but can i hve 2 OS on d same partiion | 13:41 |
| penguin42 | no | 13:41 |
| uga | uhm... somebody is messing up =) | 13:41 |
| penguin42 | I think there is some special install inside windows thing though, but I don't know about it | 13:42 |
| uga | karan: #ubuntu will help you better | 13:42 |
| yofel | you can use the installer option to resize the windows partition, but please back up the windows partition before that (I don't really trust that option) | 13:42 |
| yofel | penguin42: that would be WUBI | 13:43 |
| penguin42 | yofel: Yeh, never used it myself | 13:43 |
| yofel | neither did I ^^ | 13:43 |
| uga | uhm, I need to mess with dpkg and make it believe webkit is properly installed | 13:44 |
| uga | I believe there was a way to inject (fake) packages in the same way gtoo did, but cannot recall | 13:45 |
| yofel | just use --force-depends and make it ignore webkit? | 13:45 |
| uga | uhm, I'll try | 13:45 |
| uga | yofel: thanks, but still would love to faking the db to believe it's installed | 13:46 |
| yofel | I don't know if we have fake packages, you could build an empty dummy package though | 13:46 |
| uga | so that apt will retrieve all deps without complaining | 13:46 |
| yofel | maybe look at the source of some transitional package and modify that | 13:47 |
| uga | ah, thanks. I'll jsut grab previous version and mod the version no. | 13:47 |
| yofel | uh... rebuilding the whole of qt is *a lot*... | 13:47 |
| uga | yofel: daily task for me ;) | 13:48 |
| yofel | heh | 13:48 |
| uga | never did it for a ubuntu package, but I do so otherwise | 13:48 |
| qense | I can't find the ECalendar, EMemo, etc conduits anymore in GNOME Pilot. Were they removed? | 14:07 |
| === BUGabundo is now known as BUGa_IT_Crowd | ||
| Dink | Hello, I am currently using 10.10 with unity. I am trying to put an app on the left doc bar. When I run it it does not show up on the left doc bar. Is there a way to manually do it via config file or something? The app runs via javaws | 15:31 |
| Dink | What determines the unity doc to find applications? There are several apps that run that do show up on the doc while it is open. | 15:55 |
| Dink | netbook iso is too large for cd ? | 16:11 |
| yofel | Dink: (iso): can happen during development, it will fit again for the final release | 16:21 |
| yofel | just use a flash drive if possible | 16:21 |
| yofel | or dvd for that matter | 16:21 |
| IdleOne | Anybody else getting random nautilus crashes, report tool crashes and 2 or 3 other different crashes? | 16:39 |
| IdleOne | just seemingly random | 16:39 |
| om26er | nautilus is slow here but no crash. | 16:41 |
| IdleOne | om26er: I am deleting some log files and after about 20 or so files nautilus crashes | 16:42 |
| raymondjtoth2 | hi how i get alpha 2 i did chech tell me nothing there | 16:48 |
| raymondjtoth2 | what i do | 16:48 |
| raymondjtoth2 | any one see my text? | 16:50 |
| raymondjtoth2 | hi how i get alpha 2 i did chech tell me nothing there | 16:52 |
| raymondjtoth2 | <raymondjtoth2> what i do | 16:52 |
| yofel | IdleOne: the apport crashes are very common (believing LP) | 17:00 |
| raymondjtoth2 | hi how i get alpha 2 i did chech tell me nothing there | 17:00 |
| raymondjtoth2 | <raymondjtoth2> what i do | 17:00 |
| yofel | seems to be something in pygtk and I absolutely can't reproduce it | 17:00 |
| yofel | raymondjtoth2: yes we do | 17:00 |
| raymondjtoth2 | yofel what mean | 17:01 |
| raymondjtoth2 | i cnt get alpha 2 to upgrade wht i do | 17:01 |
| yofel | raymondjtoth2: please see the alpha2 link in the topic | 17:01 |
| raymondjtoth2 | mine tell me no update there | 17:01 |
| yofel | raymondjtoth2: you're running lucid? | 17:01 |
| yofel | did you check if software properties is set to show non-lts upgrades? | 17:01 |
| raymondjtoth2 | no upgraded to 10.10 but every thing tell me still 10.04 | 17:02 |
| raymondjtoth2 | yofel no what i do | 17:02 |
| yofel | raymondjtoth2: what does 'lsb_release -d' in a terminal tell you? | 17:02 |
| raymondjtoth2 | Description:Ubuntu maverick (development branch) what i get | 17:03 |
| raymondjtoth2 | yofel, is what get | 17:03 |
| yofel | then you're running maverick | 17:04 |
| raymondjtoth2 | what now | 17:04 |
| yofel | it might be that not every application is updated already to show maverick | 17:04 |
| raymondjtoth2 | how i get alpha 2 i checked for update like tell me tell no no updates to alphba 2 | 17:04 |
| yofel | where does it tell you that you're running 10.04? | 17:04 |
| raymondjtoth2 | in maula | 17:05 |
| raymondjtoth2 | if go to sysytem and then about ubuntu | 17:05 |
| yofel | oh that, that seems to be out of date all the time... | 17:05 |
| raymondjtoth2 | o | 17:06 |
| yofel | raymondjtoth2: when did you upgrade? alpha1? In that case you only need to make sure to have all updates installed and you're running up-to-date maverick | 17:06 |
| raymondjtoth2 | yofel, what i do to get alpha2 | 17:06 |
| raymondjtoth2 | last week | 17:06 |
| raymondjtoth2 | yofel, | 17:06 |
| raymondjtoth2 | i did all updates | 17:06 |
| raymondjtoth2 | also | 17:06 |
| yofel | ok, does update-manager list any updates? | 17:07 |
| raymondjtoth2 | but still not showuing me new alpha 2 | 17:07 |
| raymondjtoth2 | no yofel | 17:07 |
| raymondjtoth2 | but not updating me to alpha 2 | 17:07 |
| yofel | raymondjtoth2: where do you expect it to say alpha2? We shouldn't display that anywhere | 17:07 |
| raymondjtoth2 | on ubuntu wiki that say there a alpha 2 | 17:08 |
| raymondjtoth2 | update | 17:08 |
| yofel | ok, but it won't show anywhere in the system | 17:08 |
| raymondjtoth2 | yofel, im talking this http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/maverick/alpha2 | 17:08 |
| yofel | if you have all updates installed then you're already running alpha2+ | 17:09 |
| raymondjtoth2 | o ok | 17:09 |
| raymondjtoth2 | didnt ask me to update to it | 17:09 |
| raymondjtoth2 | all gave me was security update and recamened update | 17:09 |
| raymondjtoth2 | yofel, | 17:09 |
| yofel | raymondjtoth2: YES, but you can only upgrade lucid->maverick, alpha1->alpha2 is not an upgrade but a matter of simply installing all updates | 17:09 |
| yofel | it won't show anywhere | 17:09 |
| raymondjtoth2 | ok | 17:09 |
| raymondjtoth2 | yofel, then when i start update maniger i afet it check for upadate i get err | 17:10 |
| raymondjtoth2 | why is this | 17:10 |
| raymondjtoth2 | righ after the stadis br go way yofel | 17:10 |
| raymondjtoth2 | what i do yofel | 17:11 |
| yofel | what error? | 17:12 |
| yofel | and you're running ubuntu right? (gnome I mean) | 17:12 |
| raymondjtoth2 | sorry n eeds to close | 17:13 |
| raymondjtoth2 | yofel, yes | 17:13 |
| yofel | ok, you can get me a screenshot of the error on imagebin too if it's easier for you | 17:13 |
| yofel | !paste | 17:13 |
| ubottu | For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 17:13 |
| raymondjtoth2 | yofel, were i send to | 17:13 |
| yofel | see the imagebin link | 17:13 |
| yofel | put it there, then get me the link to the image | 17:14 |
| yofel | Ian_corne: same backtrace for apport as in bug 603919? | 17:15 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 603919 in apport (Ubuntu) "apport-gtk crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/603919 | 17:15 |
| yofel | IdleOne: ^ | 17:15 |
| yofel | tab fail... | 17:15 |
| IdleOne | don't know when I use ubuntu-bug I get an error about the Report tool crashed | 17:18 |
| IdleOne | So I am getting errors about errors :/ | 17:18 |
| raymondjtoth2 | yofel, were i upload it to | 17:19 |
| raymondjtoth2 | sorry froze | 17:20 |
| yofel | !screenshosts | 17:20 |
| yofel | !screenshots | 17:20 |
| ubottu | Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://tinyurl.com/imagebin and post a link to it. | 17:20 |
| IdleOne | yofel: right now I am not to concerned about it, it will fix itself I assume | 17:21 |
| raymondjtoth2 | yofel, http://imagebin.org/104875 | 17:21 |
| yofel | raymondjtoth2: oh that, that's the same thing I was just talking with IdleOne about, will be fixed soon I hope | 17:22 |
| raymondjtoth2 | ok ight not get update | 17:22 |
| yofel | raymondjtoth2: well, if I see that right, the update-manager window in the background says 'You updated less than an hour ago' | 17:22 |
| raymondjtoth2 | right | 17:23 |
| yofel | so you're up to date | 17:23 |
| raymondjtoth2 | yes | 17:23 |
| yofel | ok, then you're running a more up-to-date maverick than alpha2 | 17:23 |
| raymondjtoth2 | ok | 17:23 |
| yofel | IdleOne: acutally, can you open a terminal, run 'python' and there run 'from gi.repository import GObject' and tell me what happens? | 17:24 |
| raymondjtoth2 | yofel, what i do to for now | 17:24 |
| yofel | well what do you want to do? your maverick is up to date, so have fun searching for bugs, though with apport itself buggy right now you seem to get enough error messages ^^ | 17:26 |
| raymondjtoth2 | yofel, will it update still? | 17:26 |
| IdleOne | yofel: | 17:26 |
| IdleOne | run 'from gi.repository import GObject' | 17:26 |
| IdleOne | File "<stdin>", line 1 | 17:26 |
| IdleOne | run 'from gi.repository import GObject' | 17:26 |
| IdleOne | ^ | 17:26 |
| IdleOne | SyntaxError: invalid syntax | 17:26 |
| raymondjtoth2 | yofel, yes will it updte still | 17:26 |
| yofel | raymondjtoth2: you'll get updates again when there are some in the future, usually we don't spend a day without some | 17:27 |
| yofel | IdleOne: without the quotes | 17:27 |
| yofel | IdleOne: and without the "run" ;) | 17:27 |
| raymondjtoth2 | yofel, i ean with err im getting will it update still when ghet some | 17:27 |
| yofel | I believe so... I haven't used update-manger in quite a while as I'm not using gnome, but it should notify you once in a while | 17:28 |
| yofel | or just check yourself once a day if you want to make sure | 17:28 |
| IdleOne | yofel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/462125/ | 17:28 |
| raymondjtoth2 | ok | 17:28 |
| yofel | IdleOne: aaargh... why does that work here... | 17:29 |
| IdleOne | beats me | 17:29 |
| yofel | IdleOne: do you have python-gobject installed? | 17:29 |
| yofel | 2.21.4-0ubuntu2 | 17:30 |
| IdleOne | Installed: 2.21.4-0ubuntu2 | 17:31 |
| IdleOne | Candidate: 2.21.4-0ubuntu2 | 17:31 |
| IdleOne | yup | 17:31 |
| raymondjtoth2 | yofel, any other intel wireless driver i can get? | 17:33 |
| raymondjtoth2 | qnd eqsy to install i dont know conpiying yet | 17:33 |
| raymondjtoth2 | and not hard to install | 17:34 |
| yofel | no idea, the stock iwlagn driver works fine here (well, except for suspend) | 17:34 |
| yofel | I'll be back in a few minutes, dinner | 17:34 |
| raymondjtoth2 | ok whqt i need for dell laptop | 17:34 |
| raymondjtoth2 | what i need for dell laptop | 17:35 |
| raymondjtoth2 | ? | 17:35 |
| raymondjtoth2 | ? | 17:38 |
| IdleOne | raymondjtoth2: patience | 17:40 |
| raymondjtoth2 | ok | 17:40 |
| IdleOne | yofel: said he would be back in a few minutes :) | 17:41 |
| raymondjtoth2 | ok | 17:41 |
| raymondjtoth2 | o ok | 17:41 |
| raymondjtoth2 | has any onw wubi | 17:42 |
| raymondjtoth2 | im on inux ubuntu tab dont work in xchat for me | 17:47 |
| === zehrique is now known as zehrique-brb | ||
| yofel | re | 17:51 |
| yofel | raymondjtoth2: and what do you mean exactly, does wireless not work at all? | 17:51 |
| raymondjtoth2 | yes | 17:51 |
| raymondjtoth2 | want to just have better | 17:51 |
| yofel | no idea if there's a better one, what's the problem? | 17:52 |
| uga | uhm... this is so strange. I wonder what /usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks/iscan is doing there (iscan is related to epson scanner utility) | 18:31 |
| uga | it's breaking the kernel updates | 18:32 |
| yofel | uga: I can't find that in the archive, is that part of that utility maybe? | 18:34 |
| uga | dpkg -S says so. I removed it, and the kernels updated just fine | 18:35 |
| uga | it was failing when running update-initramfs, returning 1 | 18:36 |
| uga | yofel: no wonder. iscan was manually installed long ago, not on the repositories | 18:40 |
| yofel | meh | 18:41 |
| yofel | *heh | 18:41 |
| uga | I'll have to figure out how to fix this. I really prefer working hw ;) | 18:41 |
| Dink | What is the best way to get lvm during installation of UNR ? | 18:44 |
| Dink | sorry UNE | 18:45 |
| Dink | the netbook installer does not recognize current lvm partitions | 18:49 |
| arand | Dink: If there a d-i version of the UNE installer? | 18:49 |
| Dink | arand, a what ? | 18:49 |
| arand | Dink: debian-installer, as in the alternate installer. | 18:50 |
| uga | woah! | 18:50 |
| * uga drools | 18:50 | |
| uga | yofel: sounds like it was good taht this thing broke | 18:51 |
| uga | after updating, it fixed the only little issue Ihad with my scanner | 18:51 |
| uga | (it wouldn't switch off after using) | 18:51 |
| yofel | ^^ | 18:52 |
| Dink | arand, not that I know of. I don't see of specific to the UNE just the generic alternate installer | 18:52 |
| arand | Dink: I think you might be able to use tasksel to pull in ubuntu-netbook via the manual pakcage selection in the laternate install CD.. | 18:52 |
| uga | oh great, now facebook suggests me to love qtwebkit group | 18:53 |
| uga | sirs, not now, not now =) | 18:53 |
| Dink | Is there a list of what packages are installed on the UNE so I can only install those. This UNE suppose to provide installation of minimal apps correct ? | 18:54 |
| arand | Dink: Or possibly even if you start the normal liveCD/USB and then install... hmm, I'm not sure ubiquity supports LVM at all, or how if it does... | 18:54 |
| Dink | I guess I could just use the d-i and install only the packages I want and then do lvm. | 18:55 |
| arand | Dink: There is an ubuntu netbook task in tasksel, similar to ubuntu desktop, so I would assume just switching that task might do that. | 18:55 |
| Dink | arand, ok so run the d-i then do manual package and change desktop to une ? | 18:56 |
| arand | I would assume that's the way to do it. | 18:57 |
| arand | And that you can just change tasks like that, rather than having to mess about with individual packages, hopefully.. | 18:57 |
| arand | I've never tried, it though, but I've heard d-i uses tasksel, so I assume that's how it would work.. | 18:58 |
| Dink | arand, thanks will give it a shot. | 18:58 |
| uga | btw, if anybody wants a fix for the libqt4-webkit thing, I got a simple foobar.deb | 19:08 |
| uga | (just a fake beta2 package which is actually beta1) | 19:08 |
| uga | had I been better experienced with deb files before it'd have been quicker ;P | 19:08 |
| shishire | I have an alpha 1 install. Do I need to download a new disc image? or can I just upgrade packages to get past alpha 2? | 19:13 |
| uga | apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade should do | 19:14 |
| yofel | shishire: just install all updates and you're fine | 19:14 |
| shishire | ty, that's what I figured, but I wanted to make sure | 19:15 |
| uga | great, everything up and running again | 19:25 |
| uga | I hope the webkit packages thing will get fixed properly soon, else it'll turn users away from beta release testing | 19:26 |
| penguin42 | uga: There are always a few things like that during the alphas | 19:50 |
| uga | penguin42: what's the politics of alpha/beta releases? shouldn't it at least resolve al dependancies? | 19:59 |
| uga | s/politics/policy, sorry ;=) | 19:59 |
| penguin42 | don't know | 20:00 |
| penguin42 | uga: I think the alpha/beta release dates are pretty much fixed dates | 20:04 |
| uga | I didn't mean that. In KDE for example, after a beta release, there's no way anybody can change messages, break binary compatibility, etc | 20:05 |
| uga | if after an alpha release in ubuntu, everyone can do what they please, it means it's not even nearing an alpha stage imho | 20:06 |
| penguin42 | oh, those rules are somewhere, can't remember where | 20:06 |
| penguin42 | there's a date when new versions of stuff can't be imported unless something is horribly broken | 20:06 |
| uga | ahk, that makes sense. I think that would be good for the user to know when that happens | 20:07 |
| uga | because "alpha" or "beta" names make users (at least me) more confident that things should be getting stable | 20:07 |
| penguin42 | yeh, well the purpose of Alpha is to make them have very little confidence! | 20:08 |
| uga | I read it as "we need testers!", and you know... I like challenges ;) | 20:08 |
| penguin42 | uga: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaverickReleaseSchedule | 20:09 |
| uga | thanks, that will be useful | 20:10 |
| yofel | uga: we only somewhat guarantee that on release days of the alpha snapshots, there's a soft freeze a few days before that for that purpose, in between them the dependencies might very well make it impossible to use the system | 20:20 |
| jmagder | Good afternoon (EST). :) | 20:29 |
| jmagder | Installed Alpha 2 last night, and I've noticed there is no suspend option. | 20:29 |
| jmagder | Actually, it was probably misisng in 10.04 as well but I wasn't using this desktop much at that point. | 20:29 |
| om26er | can_suspend = no maybe | 20:29 |
| jmagder | Where is that defined? | 20:30 |
| jmagder | N/m, google can answer that question for me. :) | 20:30 |
| jmagder | Ok, loaded up gconf-editor, the only option I see with "suspend" is: | 20:32 |
| uga | yofel: thanks | 20:34 |
| jmagder | /apps/gnome-power-manager/buttons/suspend, /apps/gnome-power-manager/lock/suspend | 20:35 |
| jmagder | Went to ~/.gconf and ran "grep -Rn suspend *" | 20:35 |
| jmagder | Only found one entry. Hmmm, maybe its a root option | 20:35 |
| jmagder | I guess google can't answer this question atm. :) | 20:37 |
| jmagder | Manually added the key, I'll see what happens after restarting the power manager. | 20:40 |
| jmagder | Is there a way to force a config reload without rebooting? | 20:41 |
| yofel | jmagder: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingGNOMEPowerManager#Finding%20out%20why%20suspend%20or%20hibernate%20aren%27t%20offered ? | 20:43 |
| jmagder | om26er: That didn't work. :P | 20:47 |
| dupondje | Python broken somehow ?! | 21:10 |
| jmagder | Looks like hal-device | grep suspend has: power_management.can_suspend = false (bool) | 21:20 |
| yofel | dupondje: if you mean 'from gi.repository import GObject' -> error then yes | 21:21 |
| dupondje | any bugreport on it yet ? | 21:22 |
| yofel | bug 603919 is the one I know of, I don't know what's the correct package | 21:23 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 603919 in apport (Ubuntu) "apport-gtk crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/603919 | 21:23 |
| yofel | odd thing is that I don't get that error | 21:23 |
| dupondje | its wrong package | 21:23 |
| dupondje | for sure | 21:23 |
| dupondje | pygobject normally | 21:23 |
| dupondje | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pybootchartgui/+bug/604140 | 21:24 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 604140 in pybootchartgui (Ubuntu) "ImportError: cannot import name GObject" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 21:24 |
| dupondje | 100% same error | 21:24 |
| yofel | yep, I know it's not apport, but I can't find the correct one, as the crash doesn't happen here | 21:25 |
| yofel | so I can't debug it :/ | 21:25 |
| yofel | I think that some package isn't installed maybe | 21:26 |
| dupondje | what version you got of pygobject ? | 21:27 |
| yofel | python-gobject: | 21:28 |
| yofel | Installed: 2.21.4-0ubuntu2 | 21:28 |
| yofel | from the changelog it seems that python-gi was merged into it | 21:28 |
| dupondje | downgraded to lucid version | 21:29 |
| dupondje | and no single problem :) | 21:29 |
| yofel | oh, you get that error? | 21:31 |
| yofel | I get: http://paste.ubuntu.com/462208/ | 21:31 |
| BUGabundo | evening | 21:32 |
| yofel | hey BUGabundo | 21:32 |
| dupondje | yofel: its that issue that is breaking all packages :( | 21:49 |
| dupondje | any idea's on how to fix ? :) | 21:49 |
| yofel | well, I don't have it here so I can't find out what's broken >.< | 21:50 |
| dupondje | <yofel> I get: http://paste.ubuntu.com/462208/ | 21:50 |
| dupondje | ... :) | 21:50 |
| dupondje | damn | 21:59 |
| dupondje | added like 15 bugs as duplicate :p | 22:00 |
| dupondje | alot of packages affected | 22:00 |
| dupondje | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pygobject/+bug/603919 | 22:03 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 603919 in pygobject (Ubuntu) ""python packages" crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [High,Confirmed] | 22:03 |
| dupondje | look @ duplicate list lol :) | 22:03 |
| yofel | yep, half of them are apport dups that I added a few hours ago... | 22:04 |
| dupondje | priority high :p | 22:04 |
| dupondje | its getting some attention :) | 22:05 |
| yofel | ah, already set, was just going to do it myself ^^ | 22:05 |
| dupondje | I can't set it :( sadly :P | 22:05 |
| yofel | getting into bug control isn't that hard | 22:06 |
| dupondje | want to get in MOTU :) | 22:08 |
| === poutine is now known as Yahweh | ||
| zakscott | what would be causing my trackpad to be disabled after i log in? having to manually type synclient TouchpadOff=0 once im logged in | 22:23 |
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!
