[00:11] <Path1> seidos, any more to say?
[00:13] <Path1> well I guess ill log off, later everyone
[00:14] <seidos> he didn't give me enough time :(
[00:14] <seidos> I was kind of hoping he would take the initiative and try to locate the bookmarks folder too
[00:15] <seidos> ah, maybe I should've just kept my proverbial mouth shut
[00:15] <geirha> cat ~/.gtk-bookmarks
[00:16] <geirha> But it doesn't help any. The bookmark list folds on > 9 or something bookmarks.
[00:33] <seidos> hmmm
[00:33] <seidos> I guess my only option would have been to tell him to learn python or c, so he could fix that limitation himself, heh
[00:36] <bobo123> are there any nice guide 'learn python in 8 hours' or so that you know of?
[00:36] <bobo123> I do know c though.....
[00:44] <geirha> The tutorial at http://docs.python.org/ is decent. Don't know how many hours it takes though.
[00:45] <bobo123> hmm... maye I should look at that
[00:45] <bobo123> *maybe
[00:47] <geirha> Be warned, however, you may get a craving for spam and eggs.
[00:56] <bobo123> hehehe
[01:06]  * phillw hmmmm spam, fried :-D
[01:29] <moonrock> I just made a clean install of Ubuntu 10.04 (x64), and have Pidgin running happy, but Pidgin no longer attaches to the panel when I close (don't quit) it. It did by default on this same machine, same version of Ubuntu before. Is there a way I can force it to put it's icon on the panel like it did before?
[01:55] <duanedesign> hello moonrock
[01:55] <moonrock> hi
[01:57] <duanedesign> moonrock: did you get pidgin sorteed out?
[01:57] <moonrock> no. is there some setting to make an app show as an icon on the panel?
[01:57] <duanedesign> moonrock: Go to Tools->Preferences. On the Interface tab, if "Show system tray icon" is set to anything but "always", then change it. If that still doesn't make the icon appear, make sure you have a notification area in your panel.
[01:59] <moonrock> Thanks. That did it. I thought it was an Ubuntu/Gnome option to show up there.
[02:00] <duanedesign> \o/
[02:27] <valonn> hello, I just got a new hard drive today, and wanted to install ubuntu on it (my current HDD has windows 7), on first load the disc did have some error but said it would boot into desktop mode. so i used gparted to format the disk to extf3, then installed ubuntu, after install it asked to restart. I then rebooted then chose ubuntu (non recovery mode), and my computer just rebooted and went back to grub. How can i fix this?
[02:29] <collinp> That's odd.
[02:29] <valonn> yep ;[
[02:33] <valonn> any ideas?
[02:45] <duanedesign> valonn: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Using%20CLI%20to%20Boot
[02:45] <duanedesign> you can try the four commands there to try and get it to boot
[02:46] <duanedesign> when at the grub menu press 'c' to get to the cli
[02:47] <duanedesign> then run 'ls' to get the info you need. UNless you already know which partition your linux install is on
[02:48] <valonn> all i know is that its on sdb
[02:52] <duanedesign> valonn: do you have more than one hard drive
[02:53] <valonn> yes
[02:53] <duanedesign> ahh ok
[02:54] <valonn> so if i do these commands and it boots, where do i go from there?
[02:54] <duanedesign> so if its sdb1 the first command would be -  set root=(hd1,1)
[02:54] <duanedesign> valonn: if it boots you can reinstall grub
[02:54] <valonn> how do i do that?
[02:55] <duanedesign> valonn: see the last paragraph in that section
[02:55] <duanedesign> These changes are not permanent. After successfully booting into the system the user should run sudo update-grub and inspect the GRUB 2 configuration file (/boot//grub/grub.cfg).
[02:56] <duanedesign> For problems with booting the main linux kernel, ensure the search, linux, and initrd lines in the [### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/10_linux ###] section of the file now correctly point to the correct locations.
[02:56] <duanedesign> The user may need to reinstall GRUB 2 (sudo grub-install /dev/sdX).
[02:56] <valonn> alright
[02:56] <valonn> thank you, gonna give this a shoit
[02:56] <valonn> shot*
[02:56] <duanedesign> let us know how it goes
[03:40] <valonn> is the person that helped me before here?
[03:43] <valonn> well I just tried to boot into ubuntu (it would restart when I tried to boot into it), I was recommended using some commands from the grub command line, that didnt work, so i tried to reinstall ubuntu, got an error while installing and now everytime i boot i get grub rescue, i tried reinstalling grub but that gives me grub rescue or some grub command line. And now i cant boot into either of my OSes.
[03:44] <valonn> basically, how can i fix this mess?
[03:47] <duanedesign> hello valonn
[03:47] <valonn> hi
[03:49] <seidos> valonn, if you want to get duanedesign's attention, you should use his nickname when addressing him
[03:49] <seidos> !tab | valonn
[03:49] <ubot2> valonn: You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[03:49] <valonn> I didnt remember his nick ;p, thanks though seidos
[03:50] <duanedesign> valonn: so it is booting to a prompt that looks like  grub>
[03:50] <valonn> duanedesign: says grub rescue> when i boot into one HDD then i beleive jsut grub> for the other
[03:50] <valonn> duanedesign: actually one gives me a error that something doesnt exist, as the install errored
[03:53] <valonn> duanedesign: is there  away i can just get rid of grub and the partially installed ubuntu and make it just boot into windows?
[03:56] <duanedesign> valonn: do you have a windows system recovery disk?
[03:57] <valonn> only an xp disc, but my other hard drive is using win7
[03:57] <duanedesign> boot from the Windows Install CD and have it drop you into the repair console. Type fixmbr
[03:57] <valonn> will that work even if its an xp disc and the OS is win7?
[03:58] <duanedesign> valonn: on xp it might be  fdisk /mbr
[03:58] <valonn> duanedesign: well i dont have a win7 disk, can i still do this with my xp disk?
[04:00] <duanedesign> i do not know
[04:01] <valonn> duanedesign: according to sites it wont work, so does that mean i get to lose all of my data becuase of this stupid install?
[04:05] <seidos> valonn, where is your windows 7 recovery disk?  why don't you search how to do it in windows 7?
[04:05] <duanedesign> valonn: no
[04:05] <valonn> seidos: i dont have a recovery disk, i didnt search becuase it worked fine in the past but this time grub didnt work and nothing would boot ubuntu wise
[04:05] <duanedesign> valonn: everything is there the bootloader is just not working
[04:07] <valonn> duanedesign: i know its all there except theres no way to get to it and if i cant ge tthis fixed i get to reformat , sounds like losing all my data to me
[04:07] <seidos> valonn, if all you're interested in doing is getting windows 7 back, you can try this from a simple google search:  http://www.ehow.com/how_4836283_repair-mbr-windows.html
[04:08] <seidos> valonn, it is also really best practice to backup data before installing or upgrading an operating system
[04:08] <seidos> your situation sucks, but I don't think it warrants calling the install "stupid"
[04:09] <valonn> seidos: well the grub install didnt work at all, sounds pretty stupid to me, and i know it is ebst practice but i have a lot of data
[04:09] <seidos> valonn, we shouldn't start pointing fingers until we know with certainty what caused the failure.
[04:10] <valonn> seidos: highlight ubuntu on grub, hit enter, computer restarts, sounds like grub
[04:10] <seidos> valonn, I couldn't say.  I didn't build your computer, and I'm not a developer.
[04:11] <valonn> also these instructions you gave me are pretty much useless
[04:11] <valonn> Insert Win 7 installation DVD and boot from DVD drive.  Read more: How to repair MBR on Windows 7 | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/how_4836283_repair-mbr-windows.html#ixzz0tL7r3xx3
[04:11] <valonn> dont have a disc
[04:12] <seidos> you could try finding fixmbr.exe
[04:12] <seidos> do you have a floppy drive?
[04:12] <valonn> no
[04:12] <seidos> usb drive?
[04:12] <rlopez12> hello, I need help with pulseaudio and nautilus. When I mouse over a sound file, the preview volume is to low, but I can't change the volume for it specifically without moving the cursor
[04:12] <seidos> s/fixmbr.exe/mbrfix.exe
[04:12] <valonn> yes i have a usb drive
[04:13] <duanedesign> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling%20from%20LiveCD
[04:14] <seidos> well, you need a bootable disk/drive, in order to get into a windows terminal so that you can execute commands to fix the windows boot record
[04:15] <seidos> duanedesign, do you know if there's a way to execute a command from <grub> to try loading an OS?
[04:16] <valonn> # Reboot #  Refresh the GRUB 2 menu with sudo update-grub
[04:16] <valonn> where do i type the refresh command at?
[04:19] <seidos> valonn, I'm reading this now:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275
[04:21] <seidos> valonn, can you enter recovery grub recovery mode?
[04:21] <valonn> yeah
[04:21] <seidos> s/enter recovery/enter
[04:21] <seidos> valonn, what have you tried?
[04:22] <valonn> well im about to try reinstalling grub from live cd
[04:22] <valonn> i just finished doing it
[04:22] <valonn> going to reboot, if problem presists ill be back
[04:23] <seidos> all right, good luck
[04:25] <CWB2> hello , how do i remove the "old" ubuntu versions listed in the "select version to boot" startup page ?
[04:28] <seidos> CWB2, I have no idea.  I'm sure it has something to do with editing Grub somehow
[04:28] <seidos> CWB2, have you tried a google search for "Grub remove old ubuntu versions"?
[04:29] <CWB2> yes ... i tried searches similar to that ... came up empty handed .
[04:29] <CWB2> let me try your wording ...
[04:29] <seidos> CWB2, this might be of use:  http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/grub-2.html
[04:30] <CWB2> ok ... i'll have a look at it .
[04:30] <seidos> CWB2, though, I would ask how important is this to you?  You are mucking with the boot loader.  Screwing something up could keep you from being able to boot.
[04:31] <CWB2> yes , i realize thet .
[04:31] <CWB2> but ... i have my data backed up ... ;-)
[04:32] <CWB2> and i can always go in and pull off what i don't have saved off-machine .
[04:32] <seidos> just checking :)
[04:33] <duanedesign> you could uninstall the extra kernels
[04:33] <duanedesign> though i would leave at least 2
[04:33] <CWB2> i also have some other linux/ubuntu derivatives that were on a second drive that is no longer in the machine ... i want to do a little "area beautification" .
[04:35] <duanedesign> you can run  sudo update-grub    from the terminal and the os_prober will detect the os'es
[04:35] <duanedesign> so if they are no longer there
[04:36] <CWB2> ps ... about a week ago i had a boot loader failure sort of like the guy just before me ... ehhh ... i figured it was a good time to get away from dual boot machines .
[04:36] <CWB2> thanks for the command .
[04:36] <CWB2> i'll give it a go .
[04:37] <duanedesign> also check out the grub2 wiki page
[04:37] <duanedesign> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[04:37] <duanedesign> its a nice resource
[04:38] <CWB2> cooolll ... thanks a bunch .
[04:38] <duanedesign> np
[04:38] <CWB2> brb ... telephone .
[04:44] <CWB2> ok ... i just ran the grub update ... going to reboot ... brb .
[04:44] <CWB2> .
[04:47] <CWB2> that did it ...
[04:48] <CWB2> heh ... i forgot i had the old windows drive hooked up to pull some stuff off of it ... it found it and put it in the mix ! :-D
[04:48] <duanedesign> :)
[04:49] <duanedesign> grub2 is a bit more complicated then grub legacy bubt it is a more capable bootloader
[04:50] <CWB2> i started using ubuntu about a year ago ... i never played around with the bootloader much .
[04:50] <CWB2> maybe it was longer than a year ...
[04:51] <duanedesign> you can even put a pretty picture in the background
[04:51] <CWB2> at one time i had a drive with about 12 versions listed .
[04:51] <CWB2> pretty pictures ??
[04:52] <CWB2> heh ... maybe for some ... but i like the ol' dod screen look .
[04:52] <CWB2> dos .
[04:52] <duanedesign> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Splash%20Images%20and%20Theming
[04:52] <duanedesign> i have wanted to try it, but never got around to it
[04:53] <duanedesign> CWB2: yeah the plain grub screen boots a little faster too.
[04:53] <CWB2> neat ... i may just give it a shot ... put a picture of my gf on it ... gotta make those "brownie points" ya know .
[04:53] <duanedesign> haha that should get you a couple of nights out with the guys
[04:54] <CWB2> heh ... i'd rather have a night out with a couple of girls . ;-)
[04:54] <duanedesign> lol
[04:54] <duanedesign> :D
[04:56] <CWB2> thanks a bunch for your help ... i'll be back around ... maybe even be able to help someone (eventually) .
[04:56] <seidos> CWB2, sweet!  I need a lot of help
[04:57] <CWB2> hah !
[04:57] <CWB2> they say i need help too ... professional , that is .
[04:59] <CWB2> .
[06:58] <zkriesse> hi MarkDud
[07:11] <mohi57o9> hiya hobgoblin :)
[07:12] <zkriesse> mohi57o9: I thought you were visiting with family
[07:12]  * zkriesse raises eyebrow
[07:12] <mohi57o9> zkriesse: we all are in the machine
[07:12] <mohi57o9> I am telling everything to them (:
[07:13] <hobgoblin> morning
[07:13] <zkriesse> ok
[07:13] <mohi57o9> hobgoblin: sup?
[07:13] <hobgoblin> tea
[07:14]  * zkriesse asks for some tea
[07:14]  * hobgoblin sends some over the ether 
[07:14] <zkriesse> thanks hobgoblin
[07:14]  * zkriesse pours tea
[07:14] <zkriesse> ah, just the right temp
[07:15] <hobgoblin> boiling hot then :)
[07:15] <zkriesse> hobgoblin: Salu
[07:15] <zkriesse> Cambi!
[07:16] <zkriesse> pjarnahomzz: please do not do name change in channel
[07:16] <zkriesse> it's a little distracting
[07:18] <hobgoblin> pot calls kettle black
[07:18] <zkriesse> lol
[07:18] <hobgoblin> you've got some front asking people not to do that
[07:18] <zkriesse> hobgoblin: so how'd i do on my session
[07:19] <hobgoblin> it was ok zkriesse - I did say so yesterday
[07:19] <zkriesse> oh...
[07:19] <zkriesse> yeah it could have been better...but it was my first user days
[07:19] <hobgoblin> ?
[07:19] <hobgoblin> it was fine
[07:20] <zkriesse> I could have gone into some more detail on actual installation and partitioning
[07:20] <hobgoblin> not needed - others did that
[07:20] <zkriesse> true
[07:20] <hobgoblin> there was nothing wrong with what you did
[07:24] <hobgoblin> all the sessions I saw looked good - I wandered off when gnomeuser joined and started asking stuff that was obvious not beginner level
[07:25] <hobgoblin> zkriesse: I did a partitioning session once - I had all sorts set up in a vm on bodhi's server that everyone ssh'd into = then we actually did some real time partitioning with fdisk - it was cool
[07:52] <zkriesse> nice
[09:41] <zkriesse> hello Dextralus_
[16:31] <zkriesse> Dextralus: Hallo
[16:40] <zkriesse> http://whenisgood.net/wiki/fg/meeting
[16:42] <zkriesse> hello Axelanderya
[16:42] <Axelanderya> Hello
[17:12] <phillw> nhandler: ping, (are you okay for a PM? on UBT membership)
[17:25] <zkriesse> wb Axelanderya
[17:25] <Axelanderya> thank you zkriesse
[18:31] <nhandler> phillw: pong, no need to ask me about a PM, just PM
[18:39] <manu79> #emacs
[19:16] <tdn> I use Ubuntu 10.04 LTS with encrypted home dirs. I had to do some maintenance including swapping of two users' UIDs and GIDs. So I did a deluser on the users and a delgroup on the groups. Then I created the users and groups again with the corrects UIDs/GIDs. Then I chowned all the users' files under /home/$USER and /home/.ecryptfs/$USER. Then I reset password with passwd $USER. But now the users cannot log in, thus cannot decrypt their files. 
[19:16] <tdn> I have recovered the passphrase with ecryptfs-unwrap-passphrase, but then I do not know what to do. Login does still not work in GDM.
[19:16] <tdn> I have read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory#Recovering%20Your%20Mount%20Passphrase, but I cannot see how to use this passphrase.
[19:17] <tdn> I really hope you can help me.
[22:51] <zkriesse> Hello kevin___
[22:51] <stlsaint> zkriesse: my name is not kevin!
[22:51] <zkriesse> lol
[22:52] <zkriesse> hey stlsaint
[22:52] <kevin___> hey
[22:52] <kevin___> having some network issues
[22:52] <kevin___> or something
[22:53] <zkriesse> ah hello seidos
[22:54] <Vantrax> what sort of network issue?
[22:54] <seidos> not sure, I couldn't access web pages
[22:54] <seidos> but irc worked
[22:54] <seidos> then irc stopped working, but I got access back to the web
[22:55] <seidos> it was weird, I couldn't ping the irc server when I was still connected to it
[22:55] <zkriesse> huh
[22:55] <seidos> maybe it's behind a firewall or something
[22:55]  * seidos tries pinging now
[22:56] <seidos> nope, can ping it now
[22:56] <seidos> weird
[23:20] <Vantrax> hrm
[23:20] <Vantrax> that doesnt sound like a local issue
[23:23] <stlsaint> zkriesse: sup
[23:24] <zkriesse> stlsaint: nuttin much
[23:33] <seidos> probably isn't