[00:02] <IdleOne> maco: hope I did justice to your session
[00:03] <IdleOne> and thanks folks for guilting me into doing the session
[00:03] <pleia2> hehe
[00:03] <IdleOne> I had fun :)
[00:03] <pleia2> thanks for doing it, IdleOne :)
[00:03] <pleia2> yay
[00:03] <paaultag> IdleOne, you rocked
[00:03] <paaultag> IdleOne, great job
[00:03] <IdleOne> thank you
[05:27] <nigelb> IdleOne: it was awesome
[05:27] <nigelb> aren't you glad you got that chance?
[05:29] <IdleOne> nigelb: absolutely and thank you :)
[05:30] <nigelb> heh
[05:40] <nigelb> Ok, now I'm getting scared
[05:40] <nigelb> The ubuntu hour that I was organizing just got 8 participants signing up
[06:00] <IdleOne> why scared?
[06:00] <nigelb> its getting bigger
[06:00] <nigelb> finding a place is going to be a bit tough
[06:01] <IdleOne> ubuntu hour and link was talked about at cyphermox's session. well the end of the session. I guess there was a few users in your area who followed the link and found you :)
[06:01] <nigelb> ahhh
[06:01] <nigelb> that explains that
[06:01] <IdleOne> it's one hour, meet at a pub or restaurant :)
[06:01] <IdleOne> library?
[06:02] <nigelb> are you sure it was ubuntu hour that was talked about and not developer week?
[06:02] <nigelb> we're meeting at a coffee shop probably
[06:03] <IdleOne> yup absolutely, I mentioned it to cyphermox that we should meet up and sebsebseb asked what ubuntu hour was and link was posted and there ya go
[06:04] <IdleOne> coffee shops are good places.
[06:06] <nigelb> aha, in -chat
[08:30] <AlanBell> maco doctormo in the vine image isn't ubuntu generally with a lower case u in that font and context?
[08:31] <nigelb> AlanBell: thanks for the wonderful talk yesterday :)
[08:31]  * nigelb should write a blog post but is procrastinating
[08:31] <AlanBell> it was quite fun to do
[08:32] <nigelb> I think we had a very good crowd around this time
[08:32] <AlanBell> maco doctormo and I have only just spotted the Debian logo in it! genius!
[08:32] <nigelb> Shows how many new people are using Ubuntu and want some beginner lessons
[08:36] <nigelb> qense: heya! excited about the match?
[08:36] <qense> nigelb: hello! Nah, a bit, but I'm not that into football. :)
[08:36] <nigelb> get octopus recipies ready just in case :p
[08:37] <qense> others will do that for me
[08:37] <nigelb> LOL
[08:37] <qense> although the Spanish are much better in cooking octopus
[08:37] <qense> nigelb: Expect the Netherlands to be unreachable until Wednesday morning.
[08:37] <nigelb> haha
[08:38] <nigelb> Spain too I suppose
[08:38] <qense> nigelb: The football team's airplane will be guided by two F-16s (one orange) from the Royal Netherlands Airforce when they enter Dutch airspace.
[08:38] <qense> nigelb: Not all Spanish support the Spanish national football team.
[08:38] <nigelb> wow
[08:38] <nigelb> they're heros whether they win or lose
[08:39] <nigelb> they've gone further than any duth team
[08:39] <nigelb> *dutch
[08:39] <qense> nigelb: Not true: 1974 and 1978! :)
[08:39] <nigelb> gah
[08:39] <nigelb> I'll never get my football stats right
[08:40] <qense> The F-16 thing will happen Monday. Tuesday they will be flown by an army helicopter from The Hague to Amsterdam where they will be celebrated. If they win there will be a boat tour through the canals as well.
[08:40] <qense> The game is at 20:30 Dutch time, but the broadcaster starts broadcasting about it at 12:10.
[08:40] <nigelb> whoa
[08:41] <qense> That is, next to all the time everyone and your bird (and the octopus) have been talking about it on television for the last few weeks.
[08:41] <qense> Mannie the Parakeet said the Netherlands will win!
[08:42] <nigelb> aha!
[11:56] <czajkowski> aloha
[12:04] <qense> hi czajkowski
[12:05] <qense> czajkowski: We've proposed the new forum setup to the moderators of the Ubuntu NL forums (to not decide something about the forums without their consent (most of them weren't at the meeting)). The opening of Ubuntu NL's communication is nearing.
[12:06] <qense> czajkowski: One shocking thing (to me at least): the relatively large amount of team members/moderators who said: "But I've always thought Ubuntu NL = forum!".
[12:06] <czajkowski> qense: so thye just need to be more educated on the wider ubuntu community
[12:06] <qense> czajkowski: Yes, and that is what I'm supposed to do.
[12:07] <qense> I'll start posting some stuff after the opening is done.
[12:07] <czajkowski> qense: so what mght be an idea is to invite them to the Ubuntu Health Check and we can add a topic - like Introcution to the wider Ubuntu community
[12:07] <qense> czajkowski: Most of them don't like IRC, it's too technical. But I could see, some of them might like it.
[12:08] <qense> czajkowski: That's also why some refuse to come to the IRC meetings.
[12:08] <czajkowski> qense: aye , well we can put it on the agenda and if folks turn up great, if not we'll still discuss it and then we can post it to the mailing list
[12:09] <qense> czajkowski: loco-contacts? That would mean I'd be communicating it to the rest of the LoCo since not many people are on that list. But that doesn't matter. It is still a good thing to do. I'll translate it and post it on the forums.
[12:10] <czajkowski> qense: I also blog it and link to the minutes of it
[12:10] <czajkowski> and the wiki will be updated
[12:10] <qense> good
[12:10] <czajkowski> just a idea mind, I'm still not fully awake and cooking here
[12:11] <qense> That would be a good opportunity to educate them about the wiki.
[12:11] <czajkowski> qense: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/LoCoHealthCheck
[12:11] <czajkowski> add a topic
[12:11] <qense> czajkowski: OK, then I'll shut up now! Have a nice brunch! :)
[12:11] <qense> will do
[12:11] <czajkowski> qense: I'll be in and out today but if you need anything else just ask
[12:11] <qense> czajkowski: Thank you very much. You and Paul have been very supportive.
[12:13] <czajkowski> qense: no bother, tis what we're here for.
[12:45] <qense> Lunch time, shutting down to let it cool off a bit here.
[13:00] <nigelb> aloha czajkowski
[14:24] <maco> AlanBell: the debian swirl's been there from the start :P
[14:25] <AlanBell> yeah, but I only realised what it was when I saw it repeated
[22:06] <qense> England will burn. Expect a raid of angry supporters any minute now.
[22:07] <czajkowski> qense: *hugs*
[22:07] <qense> czajkowski: You're Irish! Join us!
[22:08]  * czajkowski is half English 
[22:08] <qense> czajkowski: And Polish!
[22:08] <czajkowski> only a little bit
[22:08] <czajkowski> just in name
[22:08] <qense> :)
[22:09] <qense> There were expected to come 100.000 supporters to Amsterdam to watch the game. How are they going to react? They've already warned the women with husbands that are known for doemstic violence.
[22:10] <czajkowski> :(
[22:10] <qense> Twitter isn't even down.
[22:10] <qense> What a deception. :P
[22:10] <qense> czajkowski: Not that I'm depressed. I always say that football doesn't matter to me. (Not always true :D)
[22:10] <Pendulum> why are football fans so known for being violent?
[22:11] <Pendulum> like, it seems to me that they're known for being worse than pretty much any other sport
[22:11] <pleia2> I was at a tailgate party at a baseball game earlier, there were vuvuzelas
[22:11] <pleia2> it was funny :)
[22:12] <qense> Someone just got kicked from the Ubuntu NL IRC channel after celebrating the Spanish goal a bit too spammy and IRC-rules violatingly.
[22:12] <czajkowski> September 2011 I suggest everyone unfollow me on twitter :) it'll be very bad
[22:13] <qense> Why?
[22:13] <czajkowski> RUGBY WORLD CUP
[22:13] <Pendulum> qense: also, to be fair the Dutch played very dirty and actually got lucky that there wasn't that red card early on
[22:13] <czajkowski> and I'll be in New Zeland
[22:13] <qense> Pendulum: In the first minute already, yes.
[22:14] <qense> Pendulum: But not that anyone wants to hear that. The commentary on TV keeps talking about the Spanish goal being made from an offside position.
[22:14] <Pendulum> I'm not sure if it's within the first minute that I'm thinking of, but the kick to the chest
[22:14] <qense> Ah, that one. That was quite dirty indeed.
[22:14] <qense> Is that a tear I hear in the voice of the TV commenter?
[22:14] <Pendulum> heh
[22:14] <Pendulum> probably
[22:15] <qense> This is the third World Cup final we lose.
[22:15] <qense> We have never won one.
[22:16] <qense> Suicide rate will probably rise the coming weeks.
[22:16] <qense> Just as domestic violence and street violence.
[22:17] <Pendulum> maybe they should start to just allow weed everywhere for a few weeks. That'll mellow them all out :P
[22:17] <Pendulum> required cannabis for known violent footie fans ;-)
[22:18] <Pendulum> get them so stoned they can't do anything other than eat
[22:18] <qense> Pendulum: That is the downside to living in the Netherlands. Half the American artists are stoned when they arrive on stage.
[22:18] <Pendulum> qense: oh, I'm sure. but I'd think it'd be useful at times like this.
[22:18] <qense> could be
[22:19] <Pendulum> (to be fair the only gig I've been to in the Netherlands was part of the Cannabis Cup so it was a bit expected)
[22:19] <qense> :)
[22:19] <Pendulum> and was one of Bob Marley's kids
[22:19] <qense> 90% of all drug related incidents in Amsterdam are caused by tourists.
[22:19] <Pendulum> doesn't surprise me
[22:19] <qense> Pendulum: If he wouldn't be stoned that would be a surprise.
[22:20] <Pendulum> although the best coffeeshops are the ones the tourists don't generally go to or where even with tourists it's majority locals
[22:21] <qense> of course
[22:21] <Pendulum> I hate annoying American tourists and according to one of my mates one of the most amusing bits of going to the Cannabis Cup was watching me around the annoying Americans
[22:22] <czajkowski> heh
[22:22] <qense> I know the feeling. We went to Turkey and the Dutch there were so terrible.
[22:22] <Pendulum> there was a guy from Texas who cornered me at one point and was trying to hit on me
[22:22] <Pendulum> he said he did web advertisement
[22:23] <Pendulum> my response: Oh, so it's your fault that there's spam
[22:23] <qense> LOL
[22:23] <Pendulum> yeah, my mate nearby had to hide laughter
[22:23] <Pendulum> part of it is most people get stoned and move slow, get boring
[22:24] <Pendulum> I smoke or otherwise ingest cannibis and I get more functional
[22:24] <Pendulum> so I want to do stuff
[22:24] <Pendulum> and stoners bore me
[22:24] <Pendulum> next time I go to Amsterdam, I want to rent a scooter or powerchair so that I can have a bit more freedom once I'm at that functional point :-)
[22:25] <qense> You can use the cyclist lanes, there are quite some of those in Amsterdam.
[22:26] <Pendulum> yeah
[22:27] <Pendulum> although I'm not sure how much I'd want to
[22:27] <Pendulum> the cyclists are scary and can move faster than even most powerchairs and scooters
[22:27] <qense> The cyclists are pretty Italian in their driving style indeed.
[22:27] <Pendulum> or maybe by then I'll have trialed flying with my powerchair so I can just bring it
[22:29] <qense> Oh god. I just realise that tomorrow the television will be filled with films of crying adult men for the whole day.
[22:30] <qense> The whole day.
[22:30] <qense> And other adult men saying pointless things about the match.
[22:31] <qense> another national trauma
[22:31] <qense> This is big enough to even stop media attention for the forming of the goverment that still isn't there, more than a month after the elections.
[22:38] <czajkowski> nn folks
[22:40] <czajkowski> qense: why does your uds post keep appearing on the planet still everyonce in a whil
[22:40] <czajkowski> *while
[22:40] <qense> czajkowski: I made it a sticky post in WordPress and then later unstickied it.
[22:40] <czajkowski> ahhh
[22:40] <qense> That is apparently enough for PlanetPlanet to make it appear agian.
[22:40] <qense> Why isn't anyone ever doing anything against that?
[22:43] <paultag> I don't think anyone cares enough
[22:43] <paultag> to be honest
[22:43] <paultag> I don't particularly mind your prose qense
[22:44] <qense> paultag: Thanks for the compliment. :)
[22:44] <paultag> sure :)
[22:46] <qense> A lifeless bunch of people on the television now.
[22:48] <qense> Ah! Our crown prince.
[22:48] <qense> Now being interviewed.
[22:48] <qense> He sat next to the queen of Spain. His wife sat a row lower with the lower ranked guests, next to our prime minister.
[22:51] <paultag> haha ouch!
[22:51] <paultag> all the glory, none of the work
[22:53] <qense> He is a very powerful IOC member.
[22:53] <qense> With connections to the Bilderberg Group!