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lfaraoneIf a pacakge was introduced to Ubuntu during Lucid development but was dropped because one of its sub packages dep'd on pyxpcom, can we restore it in a SRU if we only remove that subcomponent?01:33
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micahglfaraone: ping05:33
lfaraonemicahg: pong, I'll be around for a little while.05:34
micahglfaraone: do you mind if I merge tuxguitar or do you want to do it?05:34
lfaraonemicahg: go ahead.05:34
micahglfaraone: thanks05:34
lfaraonemicahg: apprecate the check.05:37
micahglfaraone: no problem, I should have worded it differently05:37
lfaraonemicahg: no worries. at first I was wondering "uh, did I accidentally take a bug saying I'd merge it and then forget about it? /me goes to check assigned bugs"05:38
micahglfaraone: no, you merged it last :)05:38
micahglfaraone: I'm just wondering why there's a debian-changes patch now in the merge05:39
lfaraonemicahg: package was updated to use quilt, it was extracted automatically from the direct-to-source change made.05:41
micahglfaraone: k, can I drop it then?05:41
lfaraonemicahg: well, do you think the patch that it includes should be dropped? (is it unnecc. or included in the new debian version?) otherwise, keep it in and just rename it to something sensible following the patch taggign guidelindes.05:42
lfaraone*guidelines05:42
micahglfaraone: well, it makes the changes in the package twice, so I guess I should revert the change outside the debian dir05:44
micahgmaybe I'm not used to source format 305:46
micahgk, I guess I'll leave it like this then05:48
micahgnm, the debdiff shows ok05:55
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micahgwgrant: ping09:12
wgrantmicahg: Hi.09:14
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micahgwgrant: I was wondering if you'd be able to set up the Mozilla package set on multidistrotools09:15
wgrantmicahg: Ah, sorry, I forgot about that email. I'm a bit behind at the moment.09:15
wgrantHow shall I define that set?09:15
micahgwgrant: k, no rush, just wanted to make sure you got it :), it's an actual package set09:15
wgrantHmm. I wonder if I can get that out of LP easily.09:16
micahgwgrant: you can pull it up with the ubuntu-archive-tools edit-acl script09:17
wgrantTrue.09:17
wgrantmicahg: http://qa.ubuntuwire.org/mdt/mozilla.html should work now. Sorry for the delay.09:41
micahgwgrant: awesome, thank you :)  Now I have one page for my stuff09:42
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bmh1980hi10:36
bmh1980i've uploaded 3 packages (brscan, brscan2 and brscan3) to revu. this packages are sane driver for brother scanners. it would be great if someone could review them.10:36
ari-tczewI'm a Ubuntu member. How can I request an e-mail adress?10:58
BlackZari-tczew: it's an alias and its creation is automatic after 2 days (about) you're added to ~ubuntumembers10:59
BlackZari-tczew: it's yourLPusername@ubuntu.com10:59
ari-tczewcould I get other alias instead myLPusername ?11:00
Laneyno11:00
ari-tczewwhy? is it a problem?11:00
BlackZari-tczew: please read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuEmail11:00
BlackZari-tczew: I'm not sure, but I think you can't; you can change your LP username and wait 2 days about for the alias change11:01
ari-tczewstupid procedures and bureaucracy11:02
wgrantIt... minimises bureaucracy.11:03
wgrantIt's automatic.11:03
ari-tczewok so, stupid procedures, zero flexible11:05
ari-tczewis it not possible to create new alias manually?11:06
Laneywhat if someone with that alias makes a launchpad account and becomes a member?11:08
ari-tczewwith my name and surname?11:08
ari-tczewI think that I'm only with this full name on this world11:09
ari-tczewI want to have name.surname@ubuntu.com11:09
ari-tczewlike ttx has got11:09
wgrantCanonical employees are somewhat special like that.11:10
wgrantUbuntu Members just get the LP username alias.11:10
ari-tczewaha, so I'm ordinary worker - get alias from LP username or gtfo11:11
Laneygrr @ NBS11:11
BlackZari-tczew: rename your LP ID :)11:12
ari-tczewBlackZ: not planned11:13
LaneyIf anyone wants some fun no-change rebuilds: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/NBS/libavutil4911:13
ari-tczewwho is responsible to @ubuntu.com management?11:13
wgrantThe Canonical sysadmins.11:14
wgrantrt@ubuntu.com, if you feel like arguing.11:14
ari-tczewthanks11:14
AnAntHello, can someone sponsor this syncrequest: LP 60419012:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 604190 in sl-modem (Ubuntu) "Sync sl-modem 2.9.11~20100303-5 (restricted) from Debian unstable (non-free)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/60419012:10
sebnerAnAnt: taking a look12:14
sebnerAnAnt: ACKed12:18
AnAntthanks12:18
sebneryw12:18
sebnerhoi bdrung :)12:18
bdrunghi sebner12:18
* bdrung is melting.12:18
sebnerbdrung: haha, you are not the only one :P12:19
bdrung37 °C outside and 28 °C in my room12:19
sebnerbdmurray: 37??? Wow, in Austria the highest is 33° currently12:20
geser30°C in my room currently, yesterday I even had 32°C :(12:20
bdrungsebner: i am living in berlin, germany12:21
gesersebner: btw since when can you ACK sync requests for packages in restricted?12:22
* wgrant is amused at the reversal; early last year it was 46°C here for a couple of days, but now my room is sitting just below 7°C.12:22
geserwgrant: isn't that a little bit cold for a room temperature?12:24
wgrantgeser: Yes :(12:24
geserwgrant: broken heating? offer to host some buildds in your room to heat it up12:26
wgrantgeser: No heating to this part of the house.12:26
AnAntgreat idea, winter buildds12:26
wgrantAnd my T400 isn't excellent at generating heat, so buildds sound good :P12:27
bdrungwgrant: do you want to build a big package to find a build failure?12:27
sebnerbdrung: I knew ;)12:28
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bdrungsebner: you knew?12:29
sebnergeser: w00ps, I didn't notice. I'm sorry would you mind fixing?12:29
sebnerbdrung: that you are from berlin, yes12:29
* sebner -> dinner12:29
AnAntthis merge has been hanging for long LP 588736, is there a problem with it ?12:34
ubottuLaunchpad bug 588736 in mutt (Ubuntu) "Candidate release mutt 1.5.20-9ubuntu1" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/58873612:34
AnAntshould I ask mutt be reviewed on  -devel or -server  ?12:35
AnAntor here ?12:36
BlackZAnAnt: it's in main, so -devel12:37
AnAntsebner: ah, you're a MOTU ?12:37
sebnerAnAnt: yeah, sorry also to you, didn't check as you asked here12:51
AnAntno probs12:52
shadeslayertumbleweed: wow.. debian was fast :P13:09
shadeslayerthey fixed bugsy13:09
shadeslayerdebbug #58865713:10
shadeslayertumbleweed: i guess ill have to do all the stuff again,right?13:19
shadeslayermerge from new debian package13:19
AnAntsebner: ok, so should I ask again here that it gets sponsored ?13:19
sebnerAnAnt: by a core-dev yes13:19
sebnerAnAnt: or rather in -devel13:19
AnAntok, thanks13:20
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tumbleweedshadeslayer: can't you just sync the new package?13:35
shadeslayertumbleweed: ill have to check...13:35
shadeslayerright now ... alot is broken in maverick with new kde 4.4.92 packages :P13:36
shadeslayerso im trying to fix that13:36
tumbleweedBlackZ: here's my powerpc build log: http://people.ubuntu.com/~stefanor/tmp/xorp_1.6-3_powerpc.build14:26
tumbleweedno clue why -lcurses failed on buildd but not on my porterbox. anyone?14:27
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slytherinlool: Any plan to merge gst-plugins-bad0.10 from Debian? And now that zbar is built, I believe the plugin should be enabled again.15:36
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geserjames_w: I'm adding your "import-bug-from-debian" script to u-d-t. Which license do you choose for that script?17:50
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james_wgeser: does u-d-t have multiple licenses?19:00
geserjames_w: yes, some scripts are GPLv2 only, some GPLv2+, some GPLv3 only and some GPLv3+19:04
james_wGPL2+ is fine with me19:05
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micahgwhat do I do if there's an armel failure on my upload?23:42
shadeslayermicahg: fix it? :P23:43
micahgshadeslayer: I don't know how, it's a segfault on install of a dependency23:43
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shadeslayermicahg: can you post build log?23:44
shadeslayeridk alot of armel fixing,but maybe i can help23:44
micahgshadeslayer: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tuxguitar/1.2-5ubuntu1/+build/1863907/+files/buildlog_ubuntu-maverick-armel.tuxguitar_1.2-5ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz23:44
shadeslayermicahg: well.. i think you will have to fix /var/lib/dpkg/info/ca-certificates-java.postinst: line 40 <<23:47
shadeslayerthe postinst script23:47
shadeslayerso you get to fix 2 packages :P23:47
micahgshadeslayer: :)23:47
* micahg takes a closer look23:47
shadeslayerbtw any idea why ruby-pkg-tools conflicts with irb?23:48
micahgshadeslayer: I don't23:51
micahgshadeslayer: I don't know why it's segfaulting23:51
* micahg guesses more searching is needed23:51
maxwellianmicahg: I'm interested in learning about packaging, but your pbuilder output shows that you're downloading like 200 megs of packages for this build...do you have to do that every time you build a package?23:52
maxwellianI killed pbuilder the first time I tried to run it for this reason. :\23:52
micahgmaxwellian: that's from the archive23:52
maxwellianFrom the archive on your machine?23:52
micahgmaxwellian: pbuilder will cache teh .debs it downloads, so if you only have to download a package once unless it's updated23:53
micahgmaxwellian: no, the Ubuntu Archive builder23:53
maxwellianmicahg: So I don't have to set up a proxy to do the caching if I use pbuilder, then?23:54
micahgmaxwellian: not if it's just machine23:54
micahg*one machine23:54
shadeslayermaxwellian: you can just make a mirror of your own23:55
maxwellianHmm, okay that's a bit of a relief.  But since it's a chroot, it can't use the archive of my normal install, I guess?23:55
shadeslayermaxwellian: nope23:55
maxwellianSo there will be a bit of work to be done when I get started, since I won't have any packages in the chroot.23:56
maxwellianAlthough in THAT case a proxy might be useful, since my normal install and the chroot can share it?23:56
shadeslayermaxwellian: usually when you start out with pbuilder,you will have to download alot of stuff23:57
tumbleweedmaxwellian: yes, I run a proxy23:57
shadeslayerthen as time progresses .. you get a pbuilder of size 1 GB :P23:57
tumbleweedif you test multiple architectures, you can share the arch: all packcages23:57
shadeslayerlike me :P23:57
maxwelliantumbleweed: Thanks for the tip about testing multiple archs, but that's way over my head atm. :)23:58
tumbleweedmaxwellian: I mean, there are more savings to be gained than just between your host and your pbuilders, but they are probably quite small23:59
maxwellianshadeslayer: Man, I guess I'm gonna have to upgrade my laptop at some point then...or get rid of my Windows partition.23:59

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