[00:12] <Dustin_> ScottL: i got network manager and managed to connect to the network, but it keeps disconnected and reconnecting me about every 10 seconds
[00:13] <ScottL> Dustin_, hmmm, that i'm not so sure about, you might ask around on #ubuntu
[00:14] <ScottL> Dustin_, i use a wired connection and plug into a router so it handles DHCP and i don't need to configure gnome-network-admin so it already works for me
[00:15] <ScottL> therefore i don't know much about network-manager except how to get a ubuntu studio installation to install it
[00:15] <ScottL> you can also try the application wicd if you can manage a network connection at all
[05:20] <rebirth> i forgot to click to include the ubuntu studio software when i installed. is there anyway to install it all at once now?
[05:22] <holstein>  hey rebirth
[05:22] <holstein> there are a few meta packages
[05:22] <holstein> if you go to synaptic
[05:22] <holstein> and search ubuntustudio
[05:22] <holstein> you should see them, and be able to read about them
[05:23] <holstein> OR
[05:24] <holstein> you can do sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-audio ubuntustudio-audio-plugins ubuntustudio-graphics
[05:25] <holstein> !vanilla
[05:25] <holstein> the packages are listed there
[05:25] <rebirth> thanks
[05:25] <holstein> :)
[05:26] <rebirth> ubottu: this is ubuntu studio, just not with any of the software, that is different than vanilla ubuntu no?
[05:26] <holstein> ubottu is a bot
[05:26] <rebirth> i see
[05:26] <holstein> rebirth: the packages are all the same
[05:26] <holstein> same repos
[05:29] <holstein> i did it that way
[05:29] <holstein> last time i installed
[05:30] <holstein> i was installing maverick to test
[05:30] <holstein> and the installer was failing
[05:30] <holstein> SO i waited and installed the meta-packages later
[05:52] <rebirth> i think i will just install them one by one and get to know them that way
[05:53] <holstein> sure
[05:53] <holstein> you doing audio?
[05:53] <holstein> mostly?
[05:53] <rebirth> yeah
[05:53] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudioPreparation
[05:53] <holstein> theres a must-haves section there
[05:54] <holstein> JACK is the trick
[05:54] <holstein> have you used JACK yet?
[05:55] <rebirth> is Ardour better than Audacity?
[05:55] <rebirth> no
[05:55] <holstein> hmmm
[05:55] <holstein> i think it is
[05:55] <holstein> but they are really just different
[05:56] <rebirth> oh yeah.. Ardour is more of a sequencer i guess
[05:56] <rebirth> i'm going to install that one
[05:56] <holstein> you might be interested in http://opensourcemusician.libsyn.com/
[05:56] <holstein> theres an IRC channel too
[05:56] <holstein> #opensourcemusicians
[05:56] <holstein> ardour doesnt do MIDI yet
[05:57] <holstein> it will very soon :)
[05:57] <holstein> ardour is more of a multitrack DAW
[05:57] <holstein> and ardour is more for editing a single audio file
[05:57] <holstein> you can use both for either though
[05:58] <rebirth> you mean audacity is more for editing a single audio file?
[05:58] <holstein> i call audacity a gateway drug :)
[05:58] <holstein> rebirth: YEHA
[05:58] <holstein> yeah*
[05:58] <holstein> woops
[05:58] <holstein> and audacity is more for editing a single audio file**
[05:58] <rebirth> i'm just going to be recording some accoustic guitar and vocals, but i may want to add software instrument tracks alter
[05:58] <holstein> ^^
[05:58] <rebirth> later*
[05:59] <holstein> i say, go with what works at first
[05:59] <holstein> audacity is easy
[05:59] <holstein> but JACK + ardour
[05:59] <rebirth> i need to learn about JACK
[05:59] <holstein> is quite full featured
[05:59] <holstein> jack is great
[06:00] <holstein> you got it installed?
[06:00] <rebirth> no
[06:00] <rebirth> *doing now*
[06:00] <holstein> apt-get it if you want
[06:00] <holstein> and i'll try and help you get it running
[06:01] <rebirth> sudo apt-get jack?
[06:01] <rebirth> (i'm pretty new to linux in general)
[06:02] <holstein> no worries
[06:02]  * holstein looking
[06:02] <holstein> i think you need jackd
[06:02] <holstein> try
[06:02] <holstein> sudo apt-get install jackd
[06:02] <holstein> YEAH
[06:02] <holstein> thats it
[06:04] <rebirth> done
[06:04] <holstein> cool
[06:04] <holstein> SO
[06:04] <holstein> in the audio section
[06:04] <holstein> you should see jack control?
[06:04] <holstein> or qjackctl
[06:05] <rebirth> launched it
[06:05] <holstein> cool
[06:05] <holstein> look at
[06:05] <holstein> http://qjackctl.sourceforge.net/qjackctl-ss1.html
[06:05] <holstein> so we can talk about the screenshots
[06:05] <holstein> and i know we are looking at the same thing :)
[06:05] <holstein> you should see the very first picture
[06:06] <holstein> thats what should launch
[06:06] <holstein> thats qjackctl
[06:06] <holstein> "jack control"
[06:06] <holstein> this is kind of a GUI front-end to run JACK
[06:06] <rebirth> yeah
[06:06] <holstein> SO
[06:07] <holstein> click on 'set-up'
[06:07] <rebirth> ok
[06:07] <holstein> that should get you to the 2nd picture
[06:07] <holstein> on that link
[06:07] <holstein> rebirth: is this your internal soundcard?
[06:07] <rebirth> no i'm using an maudio ozone
[06:07] <holstein> do you have an external interface?
[06:07] <holstein> AH
[06:08] <holstein> USB right?
[06:08] <rebirth> yup
[06:08] <holstein> open a terminal
[06:08] <holstein> and run lsusb
[06:09] <holstein> and see if you see it there
[06:09] <rebirth> i see it
[06:09] <rebirth> it's been working for playing music in amarok so far
[06:09] <holstein> AH
[06:09] <holstein> good :)
[06:10] <holstein> that means it should work with JACK then
[06:10] <holstein> SO
[06:10] <holstein> in that setup window
[06:10] <holstein> you see the driver section
[06:10] <holstein> that should already be set to alsa
[06:10] <holstein> the entry for 'interface'
[06:11] <rebirth> ahh yes
[06:11] <holstein> to the right of hw:0 or whatever
[06:11] <holstein> theres a little dropdown menu
[06:11] <holstein> you should look there
[06:11] <holstein> and see if you seed the ozone
[06:11] <holstein> if you dont
[06:11] <holstein> we might have to get some more advanced techs in here ;)
[06:11] <rebirth> wait, the drop down menu next to interface or the > next to it?
[06:12] <holstein> the ">"
[06:12] <holstein> but look in both
[06:12] <holstein> im not sure
[06:12] <holstein> i have a firewire interface
[06:12] <holstein> and its different
[06:12] <rebirth> fyi, in amarak the audio settings are set to "pulse audio"
[06:12] <rebirth> that seemed to make it work
[06:13] <holstein> still should work with JACK
[06:13] <holstein> AFAIK
[06:13] <rebirth> i have the options: "hw: 0" "plughw: 0" "/dev/audio" and "dev/dsp"
[06:14] <holstein> hmmm
[06:14] <holstein> well, you could just try them all
[06:14] <holstein> and see if one is the ozone
[06:14] <holstein> but i think it would say
[06:14] <rebirth> it's set to default now
[06:14] <holstein> i have an maudio transit
[06:15] <holstein> and it says in the '>' menu
[06:15] <holstein> maudio something obvious
[06:16] <rebirth> oh, in the > menu it says ozone!
[06:17] <rebirth> as "hw:1"
[06:17] <holstein> AH
[06:17] <holstein> that should be it then
[06:17]  * holstein is google-ing
[06:17] <holstein> it looks like the ozone should work fine
[06:17] <holstein> SO
[06:18] <holstein> now you got the driver and device chosen
[06:18] <holstein> there are a couple other settings there
[06:18] <rebirth> alsa is the driver right?
[06:18] <holstein> yeah
[06:18] <holstein> thats the one you should try first
[06:18] <holstein> do you have the real time kernel?
[06:19] <rebirth> ermm
[06:19] <holstein> run uname -a
[06:19] <holstein> in the terminal
[06:19] <holstein> it'll say -RT or -generic somewhere
[06:19] <rebirth> rt
[06:19] <holstein> cool
[06:20] <holstein> theres a realtime checkbox
[06:20] <holstein> you can check that
[06:20] <rebirth> what does that mean exactly?
[06:20] <holstein> if its unchecked
[06:20] <holstein> realtime?
[06:20] <rebirth> yeah
[06:20] <holstein> just priority
[06:20] <holstein> can help you get lower latency
[06:20] <holstein> SAY
[06:20] <holstein> you got you guitar plugged in
[06:21] <holstein> and you want effects
[06:21] <rebirth> realtime is checked already
[06:21] <rebirth> will mic work?
[06:21] <holstein> there could be a couple miliseconds
[06:21] <holstein> between when you hit the string
[06:21] <rebirth> oh i see
[06:21] <holstein> and when you hear the effected sound
[06:21] <holstein> the RT stuff can help
[06:21] <rebirth> cool
[06:21] <holstein> yeah
[06:21] <holstein> OK
[06:22] <holstein> you see frames/period
[06:22] <holstein> and periods/buffer
[06:22] <rebirth> it says my latency is 46.4 msecs btw
[06:22] <holstein> those are the settings that we tweak
[06:22] <holstein> usually
[06:22] <rebirth> yeah i see em
[06:22] <holstein> if you change those
[06:23] <holstein> you'll see the latency change
[06:23] <holstein> you dont need to go crazy with the settings
[06:23] <holstein> i would leave it at 46 for now
[06:23] <holstein> and just know that you can tweak if you need lower latency
[06:23] <rebirth> which?
[06:23] <holstein> 46.4 ms
[06:23] <holstein> just what you got
[06:23] <rebirth> oh gotcha
[06:23] <holstein> whatever the settings are
[06:24] <holstein> SO, hit OK
[06:24] <holstein> and then close that or whatever
[06:24] <holstein> and go back to the main qjack panel
[06:24] <holstein> and hit start
[06:24] <rebirth> ok
[06:24] <holstein> and see if it runs :)
[06:24] <rebirth> uh oh error
[06:25] <holstein> yeah
[06:25] <holstein> hehe
[06:25] <rebirth> could not connect to JACK server as client
[06:25] <holstein> SO
[06:25] <holstein> close qjack
[06:25] <holstein> open a terminal and run
[06:25] <holstein> sudo qjackctl
[06:25] <holstein> and try starting it again
[06:26] <rebirth> no error this time
[06:26] <holstein> OK
[06:26] <holstein> so hit the stop button
[06:26] <holstein> and close that
[06:27] <holstein> and lets check some permissions
[06:27] <holstein> run sudo adduser rebirth audio
[06:27] <holstein> OR
[06:27] <holstein> whatever your username is ^^^
[06:27] <rebirth> uh, i was playing music in amarok and after i quit jack it started playing agian but it was all distored lol
[06:27] <holstein> the user your logged in as
[06:27] <holstein> lol
[06:28] <holstein> yeah, pulse-to-JACK
[06:28] <holstein> thats a whole different thing
[06:28] <holstein> it can be done though
[06:28] <holstein> i just havnet really needed it
[06:29] <rebirth> so i'll need to reconfigure amarok to use jack also?
[06:29] <holstein> not sure
[06:29] <holstein> for now
[06:29] <rebirth> ok let me do the last step
[06:29] <holstein> think of JACK as a patchbay
[06:30] <holstein> and something that you dont really use casually
[06:31] <rebirth> it says i'm already a member of audio
[06:31] <holstein> dammit
[06:31] <holstein> hmmm
[06:31] <holstein> its a permissions issue
[06:31] <holstein> because it runs sudo
[06:36] <holstein> rebirth: did you add yourself to that group after install?
[06:36] <rebirth> never ran that command before
[06:36] <holstein> i thought ubuntu just came that way
[06:36] <holstein> hmmm
[06:37] <rebirth> if i want to be a member of that group than what's the problem?
[06:37] <holstein> if you already are, then its something else
[06:38] <holstein> rebirth: do me a favour
[06:38] <holstein> log out and back in
[06:38] <rebirth> reboot?
[06:38] <holstein> you can if you want
[06:38] <holstein> but just logging out will do
[06:38] <holstein> just in case
[06:38] <rebirth> ok brb
[06:40] <rebirth> holstein: i am back
[06:41] <holstein> rebirth: try qjack again
[06:41] <holstein> as a normal user
[06:41] <holstein> and see if it starts
[06:41] <holstein> without error
[06:41] <rebirth> sorry, how do i do that again?
[06:41] <holstein> lauch jack control
[06:41] <holstein> and hit the start button
[06:42] <rebirth> no didn't start
[06:42] <holstein> hmmm
[06:44] <rebirth> can i leave the group and rejoin it?
[06:44] <holstein> sure
[06:44] <holstein> but you dont need to
[06:44] <rebirth> i was wondering if that would fix it
[06:46] <holstein> OK
[06:47] <holstein> you'll have to log out again BUT
[06:47] <holstein> add yourself to the disk group
[06:47] <holstein> sudo adduser *you* disk
[06:47] <holstein> maybe that is needed to access USB devices
[06:48] <rebirth> do that now?
[06:48] <holstein> yeah
[06:48] <rebirth> sudo adduser <username> disk
[06:49] <holstein> its not going to hurt anything either way
[06:49] <holstein> my USB device just worked
[06:49] <holstein> but i had already added myself to the disk group
[06:49] <rebirth> done.
[06:49] <holstein> try it again
[06:49] <rebirth> ok
[06:49] <holstein> and then you can logout
[06:49] <holstein> if it fails
[06:50] <holstein> and back in
[06:50] <rebirth> failed
[06:50] <rebirth> ok brb againm
[06:53] <rebirth> holstein: still failed :-(
[06:54] <holstein> dammit
[06:54] <holstein> well
[06:54] <holstein> run sudo qjackctl
[06:54] <holstein> and let me show you something
[06:54] <holstein> and you can go to #jack
[06:54] <holstein> or try here again
[06:54] <holstein> sometime tomorrow maybe
[06:54] <holstein> when smarter folk are around
[06:54] <holstein> im sure its something easy
[06:55] <rebirth> huh it failed as sudo
[06:55] <holstein> OH
[06:55] <holstein> but it ran earlier right?
[06:55] <rebirth> yeah
[06:57] <holstein> rebirth: im fading :/
[06:57] <holstein> i dont want to leave you hanging
[06:57] <holstein> but its late
[06:57] <rebirth> no it's alright
[06:57] <holstein> you gonna be around tomorrow nite?
[06:57] <rebirth> thanks for you help i'll try to jack channel
[06:57] <holstein> im around about this time usually
[06:58] <rebirth> yeah
[06:58] <holstein> and the guys in #opensourcemusicians really helped me a lot
[06:58] <rebirth> i've got enough to play with now anyway
[06:58] <holstein> good luck
[06:58] <rebirth> thanks man
[06:58]  * holstein to bed :)
[06:58] <holstein> laterx
[06:59] <rebirth> nite
[07:00] <rebirth> i looked in the msg log and it said something about realtime
[07:00] <rebirth> so i disabled realtime and it worked
[07:00] <rebirth> if you are still there
[07:00] <rebirth> holstein
[15:29] <karan> i wanna put studio on 10.10
[16:48] <fbxxkl> howdy everyone.  Anyone have experience with Devede?  I am having trouble when I turn video's to dvd iso
[17:02] <holstein> fbxxkl: im not familiar
[17:02] <holstein> but what is the trouble?
[17:11] <fbxxkl> well when I turn my avi/mkv files into ISO's about halfway through the movies video and audio becomes a bit out of sync
[17:13] <fbxxkl> holstein: ^^
[17:13] <holstein> i had that issue
[17:14] <holstein> in windows
[17:14] <holstein> and i havnet gotten around to doing any video in linux yet
[17:14] <holstein> well, anything to speak of
[17:15] <holstein> i read several interesting posts about it
[17:15] <holstein> back then
[17:15] <holstein> you could try and make sure you have similar settings for your audio and video encoders
[17:16] <fbxxkl> ah
[17:16] <fbxxkl> I will play aroudn with ti
[17:16] <fbxxkl> thanks
[17:16] <holstein> this is where i landed
[17:16] <holstein> in windows
[17:16] <holstein> http://www.virtualdub.org/
[17:16] <holstein> seemed to help
[17:16] <holstein> theres all kinds of info there
[17:17] <holstein> good luck
[17:17] <holstein> its a drag