| humanfly | hello all | 00:56 |
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| humanfly | did the best i could | 00:56 |
| humanfly | and its the truth | 00:57 |
| humanfly | is Marks staff accesssible throughout the night ? if they needed to be contacted for any reason. no problem on irc here. | 02:35 |
| michaelh | Hi there. I'm having trouble with making my first feature branch: bzr branch has been sitting there at 100 % CPU for about 15 minutes | 03:03 |
| spm | michaelh: that sounds... uncool. is this a private/public branch on lp? or? | 03:13 |
| michaelh | I'm new to this, but it's a LP branch that I have locally and I'm trying to create a feature branch off it | 03:14 |
| michaelh | (it is GCC so it's a good size, but still) | 03:14 |
| michaelh | The LP branch is https://code.launchpad.net/~linaro-toolchain-dev/gcc-linaro/4.4 | 03:15 |
| michaelh | I pulled it down locally using bzr branch lp:gcc-linaro/4.4 | 03:15 |
| michaelh | I then used bzr branch linaro-4.4 linaro-mlh | 03:15 |
| michaelh | It did complete in the end. Sat at 100 % CPU on a dual core machine and ~600 MB of RAM | 03:16 |
| michaelh | All under stock Lucid on i386 | 03:16 |
| spm | Oh! istr that gcc has some *insane* # of commits that are evilness personified. IMBW, but possibly that's cause/effect right there. | 03:18 |
| spm | I vaguely recall it being problematic on the lp importds.... | 03:18 |
| michaelh | bzr revno shows 95535. du -sk .bzr is 490 MB. | 03:20 |
| michaelh | It finished so I'm happy. I thought I'd hit a bug :) | 03:21 |
| spm | heh, the bug is 'gcc is wildly optimistic with the number of revno's it really needs' ;-) | 03:21 |
| michaelh | spm: Sorry, unrelated topic: I'm writing my first ChangeLog entry and want to link to the LP bug ID. Is there a standard format? | 03:26 |
| michaelh | spm: (It's only us NZ and AUS people awake at the moment so I can't ask my usuals :) | 03:26 |
| spm | michaelh: there is a shortform URL? as for "style" format, no idea. | 03:26 |
| spm | eg. https://launchpad.net/bugs/<bugid> | 03:27 |
| michaelh | spm: The GCC people put a line like 'PR fortran/43836' on any ChangeLog entries that fix a issue | 03:27 |
| michaelh | Perhaps lp:123456 would be fine? | 03:27 |
| spm | heh, actually I think the bzr folks are all in prague atm with the lp sprint | 03:27 |
| spm | no idea :-) | 03:27 |
| michaelh | Ta. | 03:29 |
| lifeless | moin | 03:34 |
| spm | lifeless: no. I think that's more accurately called 'night', although, I grant, it is oft considered 'morning' :-) | 03:35 |
| lifeless | is 0435 | 03:35 |
| lifeless | is morningk | 03:36 |
| spm | I'm aware of that :-) | 03:36 |
| spm | good flights over? | 03:36 |
| lifeless | yeah, bad ones over too | 03:36 |
| spm | bleh | 03:36 |
| michaelh | I'm a bit stuck on using feature branches in bzr against LP. Where's a good place to ask? | 03:38 |
| lifeless | I don't know, depends on what you're stuck i'd say | 03:44 |
| lifeless | what are you stuck on? | 03:44 |
| michaelh | I have a branch of a lp:gcc-linaro/4.4. I took a local feature branch of that. I made my changes and committed to the feature branch. I now want to push this feature branch to LP so that I can ask Loic to merge it to trunk | 03:46 |
| michaelh | I think 'bzr push "lp:~michaelh1/gcc-linaro/4.4-dev" is right, but it stacks on the 4.5 branch instead | 03:47 |
| lifeless | thats fine | 03:47 |
| lifeless | stacking is just storage optimisation | 03:47 |
| michaelh | OK. So he'll be able to merge it just fine, even though they're based on mildly different things? | 03:48 |
| lifeless | no | 03:48 |
| lifeless | *stacking does not mean based on* | 03:48 |
| lifeless | he'll be able to merge it fine because you based it on 4.4 | 03:48 |
| michaelh | Ah. So feature branch is based on local branch is based on LP:4.4 | 03:48 |
| michaelh | It's pushing a lot of data up - is it going to push all of the 490 MB branch for my small change?? | 03:51 |
| lifeless | no | 03:51 |
| lifeless | lool: ^ | 03:52 |
| michaelh | Hmm. 12 MB at 60 kB/s so far. I guess that is due to 'trunk' being based off 4.5... let's see how it turns out... | 03:52 |
| michaelh | Does bzr push resume on network loss? | 04:13 |
| lifeless | not curently | 04:13 |
| michaelh | If it does push the full 493 MB, then it will take 2.3 hours at the current 60 kB/s. I'm worried about it dropping out at 99 % :) | 04:15 |
| michaelh | Can I stage the push, rsync it to somewhere with a faster connection, then finish the push from there? | 04:16 |
| lifeless | michaelh: lool was going to have a cronjob setup so that it doesn't need to upload all that much data | 04:29 |
| lifeless | if you want to do things incrementally use the -r parameter - | 04:29 |
| lifeless | push -r 10000 | 04:29 |
| lifeless | push -r 20000 | 04:29 |
| lifeless | etc | 04:29 |
| michaelh | Ta. | 04:30 |
| lifeless | (hopefully obviously, that will be less efficient) | 04:31 |
| michaelh | Currently at 157 MB. Let's see how it goes... | 04:31 |
| lifeless | another possibility is that you interrupted the early attempts after object creation before storage of the stacking info | 04:31 |
| lifeless | so you could be pushing to an unstacked instance | 04:32 |
| michaelh | How can I tell, and how can I fix it if it's true? | 04:34 |
| lifeless | bzr reconfigure can change it | 04:34 |
| lifeless | and bzr info will tell you | 04:34 |
| lifeless | (bzr info url) | 04:34 |
| jbowtie | I just announced bzr-tfs on the mailing list, now awaiting my first bug report. | 05:08 |
| jbowtie | Which will probably be someone telling me I did the announcement wrong. | 05:09 |
| fullermd | Looks like it has too few vowels to me... | 05:13 |
| jbowtie | fullermd: I'll try to put extra vowels in the blog posts about how I wrote the plugin. | 05:15 |
| fullermd | Will you be consonant in your pursuit of this solemn vowel? | 05:15 |
| jbowtie | fullermd: No. | 05:41 |
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| swathanthran | what does --versioned do actually? is it like ignoring the files that has not yet been added? | 08:08 |
| lifeless | I think so | 08:09 |
| swathanthran | ok. | 08:09 |
| mwhudson | i think bzr ls lists all files in the tree, even ignored and unversioned | 08:22 |
| mwhudson | (without more options) | 08:23 |
| lool | lifeless: I did setup a cron job, and I could push a verbatim copy of a branch in almost no time | 08:38 |
| lool | http://paste.ubuntu.com/462396/ is the job | 08:39 |
| lool | It didn't even break when I moved the branches around | 08:39 |
| lifeless | ok cool | 08:39 |
| lifeless | I wonder what went wrong for michaelh | 08:39 |
| lool | I moved the branches recently, I wonder whether that could have had such a side effect | 08:40 |
| lool | (changed owner from ~gcc-linaro-dev to ~linaro-toolchain-dev) | 08:40 |
| Noldorin | hi. i'm trying to get bzr to connection to launchpad behind an http proxy. any ideas? | 09:45 |
| Noldorin | followed http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1039057/how-do-i-use-bazaar-with-a-http-proxy so far, ut no luck it seems | 09:45 |
| GaryvdM | Noldorin: have you tested if it works using the long url, e.g. bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~user/project/branch/ ? | 09:48 |
| Noldorin | GaryvdM: no, by i will do now. | 09:48 |
| GaryvdM | Noldorin: It uses https to convert lp:~user/project/branch/ to bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~user/project/branch/ | 09:49 |
| Noldorin | GaryvdM: same error i'm afraid | 09:49 |
| Noldorin | cts\IRC.NET> bzr co bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~noldorin/ircdotnet/devel bzr: ERROR: Unable to connect to SSH host bazaar.launchpad.net; (10060, 'Operation timed out') | 09:49 |
| GaryvdM | Noldorin: then you will need to get you administrator to open port 22 (ssh) for you | 09:50 |
| Noldorin | GaryvdM: i've set the appropiate env vars for the http proxy. that's not too reliale ehi? | 09:50 |
| GaryvdM | Noldorin: http proxies only work for http, not ssh | 09:52 |
| GaryvdM | Noldorin: if you only need read access, then you can access your branch over http | 09:52 |
| GaryvdM | Noldorin: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ircdotnet-dev/ircdotnet/devel/ | 09:57 |
| GaryvdM | Noldorin: That url will allow you readonly access. | 09:57 |
| Noldorin | GaryvdM: ah, that should do the job. thank you | 09:58 |
| Noldorin | GaryvdM: odd. i get: | 09:59 |
| Noldorin | bzr: ERROR: Connection closed: Connection lost while sending request. | 09:59 |
| GaryvdM | Noldorin: I'm sorry - I'm not sure then. | 10:00 |
| Noldorin | no worries | 10:00 |
| Kream | what are the downsides to bazaar over, say, git, for a VCS for config files? | 11:38 |
| Kream | using etckeeper, I mean | 11:38 |
| Kream | what are the downsides to bazaar over, say, git, for a VCS for config files? | 11:47 |
| maxb | none? :-) | 11:48 |
| Kream | hehe | 11:48 |
| Kream | some guys were saying it's slowness is a big downside | 11:48 |
| Kream | is that really a problem with etckeeper? | 11:48 |
| Kream | system isn't really very heavily loaded. | 11:48 |
| maxb | Bazaar is slower than Git, this is true. But that only starts to become an issue on huge trees. An /etc is pretty tiny | 11:49 |
| Kream | true, true. | 11:53 |
| Kream | what's an advantage bazaar has over git? | 11:53 |
| Kream | generally, and as far as the /etc tree is concerned as well | 11:53 |
| maxb | I think that's mostly a question of personal preference. Personally I find git to be excessively obscure, and to have the learning curve from hell | 11:59 |
| maxb | Whereas bzr can do everything I could use git to do, and leave me happier about doing it :-) | 12:00 |
| Kream | great :) | 12:06 |
| svaksha | Permission denied (publickey). bzr: ERROR: Connection closed: please check connectivity and permissions (and try -Dhpss if further diagnosis is required). Any idea why this error occurs while getting a branch from LP? TIA. | 12:07 |
| BusError | given a failed merge, how to I just cancel and reset to the HEAD ? | 13:04 |
| maxb | BusError: bzr revert | 13:40 |
| maxb | svaksha: Connection problems of some sort? Check with ssh your-lp-id@bazaar.launchpad.net | 13:41 |
| svaksha | maxb: that is odd. i'm able to push and pull to my branch but cant pull another's branch | 15:25 |
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