[00:56] hello all [00:56] did the best i could [00:57] and its the truth [02:35] is Marks staff accesssible throughout the night ? if they needed to be contacted for any reason. no problem on irc here. [03:03] Hi there. I'm having trouble with making my first feature branch: bzr branch has been sitting there at 100 % CPU for about 15 minutes [03:13] michaelh: that sounds... uncool. is this a private/public branch on lp? or? [03:14] I'm new to this, but it's a LP branch that I have locally and I'm trying to create a feature branch off it [03:14] (it is GCC so it's a good size, but still) [03:15] The LP branch is https://code.launchpad.net/~linaro-toolchain-dev/gcc-linaro/4.4 [03:15] I pulled it down locally using bzr branch lp:gcc-linaro/4.4 [03:15] I then used bzr branch linaro-4.4 linaro-mlh [03:16] It did complete in the end. Sat at 100 % CPU on a dual core machine and ~600 MB of RAM [03:16] All under stock Lucid on i386 [03:18] Oh! istr that gcc has some *insane* # of commits that are evilness personified. IMBW, but possibly that's cause/effect right there. [03:18] I vaguely recall it being problematic on the lp importds.... [03:20] bzr revno shows 95535. du -sk .bzr is 490 MB. [03:21] It finished so I'm happy. I thought I'd hit a bug :) [03:21] heh, the bug is 'gcc is wildly optimistic with the number of revno's it really needs' ;-) [03:26] spm: Sorry, unrelated topic: I'm writing my first ChangeLog entry and want to link to the LP bug ID. Is there a standard format? [03:26] spm: (It's only us NZ and AUS people awake at the moment so I can't ask my usuals :) [03:26] michaelh: there is a shortform URL? as for "style" format, no idea. [03:27] eg. https://launchpad.net/bugs/ [03:27] spm: The GCC people put a line like 'PR fortran/43836' on any ChangeLog entries that fix a issue [03:27] Perhaps lp:123456 would be fine? [03:27] heh, actually I think the bzr folks are all in prague atm with the lp sprint [03:27] no idea :-) [03:29] Ta. [03:34] moin [03:35] lifeless: no. I think that's more accurately called 'night', although, I grant, it is oft considered 'morning' :-) [03:35] is 0435 [03:36] is morningk [03:36] I'm aware of that :-) [03:36] good flights over? [03:36] yeah, bad ones over too [03:36] bleh [03:38] I'm a bit stuck on using feature branches in bzr against LP. Where's a good place to ask? [03:44] I don't know, depends on what you're stuck i'd say [03:44] what are you stuck on? [03:46] I have a branch of a lp:gcc-linaro/4.4. I took a local feature branch of that. I made my changes and committed to the feature branch. I now want to push this feature branch to LP so that I can ask Loic to merge it to trunk [03:47] I think 'bzr push "lp:~michaelh1/gcc-linaro/4.4-dev" is right, but it stacks on the 4.5 branch instead [03:47] thats fine [03:47] stacking is just storage optimisation [03:48] OK. So he'll be able to merge it just fine, even though they're based on mildly different things? [03:48] no [03:48] *stacking does not mean based on* [03:48] he'll be able to merge it fine because you based it on 4.4 [03:48] Ah. So feature branch is based on local branch is based on LP:4.4 [03:51] It's pushing a lot of data up - is it going to push all of the 490 MB branch for my small change?? [03:51] no [03:52] lool: ^ [03:52] Hmm. 12 MB at 60 kB/s so far. I guess that is due to 'trunk' being based off 4.5... let's see how it turns out... [04:13] Does bzr push resume on network loss? [04:13] not curently [04:15] If it does push the full 493 MB, then it will take 2.3 hours at the current 60 kB/s. I'm worried about it dropping out at 99 % :) [04:16] Can I stage the push, rsync it to somewhere with a faster connection, then finish the push from there? [04:29] michaelh: lool was going to have a cronjob setup so that it doesn't need to upload all that much data [04:29] if you want to do things incrementally use the -r parameter - [04:29] push -r 10000 [04:29] push -r 20000 [04:29] etc [04:30] Ta. [04:31] (hopefully obviously, that will be less efficient) [04:31] Currently at 157 MB. Let's see how it goes... [04:31] another possibility is that you interrupted the early attempts after object creation before storage of the stacking info [04:32] so you could be pushing to an unstacked instance [04:34] How can I tell, and how can I fix it if it's true? [04:34] bzr reconfigure can change it [04:34] and bzr info will tell you [04:34] (bzr info url) [05:08] I just announced bzr-tfs on the mailing list, now awaiting my first bug report. [05:09] Which will probably be someone telling me I did the announcement wrong. [05:13] Looks like it has too few vowels to me... [05:15] fullermd: I'll try to put extra vowels in the blog posts about how I wrote the plugin. [05:15] Will you be consonant in your pursuit of this solemn vowel? [05:41] fullermd: No. === wilx_ is now known as wilx === Nephyrin is now known as Jill === Jill is now known as Nephyrin [08:08] what does --versioned do actually? is it like ignoring the files that has not yet been added? [08:09] I think so [08:09] ok. [08:22] i think bzr ls lists all files in the tree, even ignored and unversioned [08:23] (without more options) [08:38] lifeless: I did setup a cron job, and I could push a verbatim copy of a branch in almost no time [08:39] http://paste.ubuntu.com/462396/ is the job [08:39] It didn't even break when I moved the branches around [08:39] ok cool [08:39] I wonder what went wrong for michaelh [08:40] I moved the branches recently, I wonder whether that could have had such a side effect [08:40] (changed owner from ~gcc-linaro-dev to ~linaro-toolchain-dev) [09:45] hi. i'm trying to get bzr to connection to launchpad behind an http proxy. any ideas? [09:45] followed http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1039057/how-do-i-use-bazaar-with-a-http-proxy so far, ut no luck it seems [09:48] Noldorin: have you tested if it works using the long url, e.g. bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~user/project/branch/ ? [09:48] GaryvdM: no, by i will do now. [09:49] Noldorin: It uses https to convert lp:~user/project/branch/ to bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~user/project/branch/ [09:49] GaryvdM: same error i'm afraid [09:49] cts\IRC.NET> bzr co bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~noldorin/ircdotnet/devel bzr: ERROR: Unable to connect to SSH host bazaar.launchpad.net; (10060, 'Operation timed out') [09:50] Noldorin: then you will need to get you administrator to open port 22 (ssh) for you [09:50] GaryvdM: i've set the appropiate env vars for the http proxy. that's not too reliale ehi? [09:52] Noldorin: http proxies only work for http, not ssh [09:52] Noldorin: if you only need read access, then you can access your branch over http [09:57] Noldorin: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ircdotnet-dev/ircdotnet/devel/ [09:57] Noldorin: That url will allow you readonly access. [09:58] GaryvdM: ah, that should do the job. thank you [09:59] GaryvdM: odd. i get: [09:59] bzr: ERROR: Connection closed: Connection lost while sending request. [10:00] Noldorin: I'm sorry - I'm not sure then. [10:00] no worries [11:38] what are the downsides to bazaar over, say, git, for a VCS for config files? [11:38] using etckeeper, I mean [11:47] what are the downsides to bazaar over, say, git, for a VCS for config files? [11:48] none? :-) [11:48] hehe [11:48] some guys were saying it's slowness is a big downside [11:48] is that really a problem with etckeeper? [11:48] system isn't really very heavily loaded. [11:49] Bazaar is slower than Git, this is true. But that only starts to become an issue on huge trees. An /etc is pretty tiny [11:53] true, true. [11:53] what's an advantage bazaar has over git? [11:53] generally, and as far as the /etc tree is concerned as well [11:59] I think that's mostly a question of personal preference. Personally I find git to be excessively obscure, and to have the learning curve from hell [12:00] Whereas bzr can do everything I could use git to do, and leave me happier about doing it :-) [12:06] great :) [12:07] Permission denied (publickey). bzr: ERROR: Connection closed: please check connectivity and permissions (and try -Dhpss if further diagnosis is required). Any idea why this error occurs while getting a branch from LP? TIA. [13:04] given a failed merge, how to I just cancel and reset to the HEAD ? [13:40] BusError: bzr revert [13:41] svaksha: Connection problems of some sort? Check with ssh your-lp-id@bazaar.launchpad.net [15:25] maxb: that is odd. i'm able to push and pull to my branch but cant pull another's branch === beuno is now known as beuno-lunch === beuno-lunch is now known as beuno === mtaylor is now known as mtaylor|afk