[00:16] apachelogger: kdepimlibs is finally building \o/ [00:17] someone stop apachelogger from triaging bugs :S [00:18] apachelogger: tomorrow you should retry a ton of packages... [00:21] apachelogger: on kmail bug triage spree? [01:08] hi, does anyone know when ldconfig creates symlinks and when it doesn't, because i just ran it on a private directory, expecting it to create a link libtest.so.1 to libtest.so.1.0.0 and it didn't. is that what it's supposed to do? [01:32] anyone around? === yofel_ is now known as yofel === hrw|gone is now known as hrw [08:12] dang is lex gone already? [08:17] hm [08:17] rendering that konqueror about picture takes noticable long [08:18] as if it was super sized and needs to be scaled down :S [08:24] impending news everyone! [08:24] qt FTBFS on armel [08:24] NCommander: are you already onto that? [08:25] * apachelogger abandons all hope for the armel package chain and continues looking at issues [08:30] [08:30] [Notice] -NickServ- You are now identified for Trouble. [08:30] Hehe :-p [08:31] You can say that again [08:34] lol [08:35] launchpad hates me \o/ [08:35] lazr.restfulclient.errors.HTTPError: HTTP Error 401: Unauthorized [08:35] launchpad-- [08:37] kdebase ia64, ppc retried [08:37] on general note: armel FTBFS qt4-x11 and sparc FTBFS kde4libs [08:38] kdebase-runtime retried on i & p too [08:39] kdeaccessibility retried on i & p [08:39] Dear Kubuntu Update. please dont kill my PC when I restart. Sincerely. Jussi. [08:42] kdegames retried on i386, amd64, ia64, ppc [08:43] kdemm retried on ia64, ppc [08:44] first level of tree retried [08:45] kdebase-workspace retired on ia64, ppc [08:46] kdebindings retried on ia64, ppc [08:47] kdewebdev retired on i386, amd64, ia64, ppc [08:48] kdesdk retried on i386, amd64, ia64, ppc [08:49] kdenetwork retired on i386, amd64, ia64, ppc [08:49] second level of tree retried [08:51] kdetoys i386, amd64 scheduled for build, others cannot be retried because kdebase-workspace is condition to them and only i386 and amd64 are built for workspace [08:52] same for kdeartwork [08:52] same for kdeutils [08:53] kdeedu retried on i386, amd64, others pending builds from kdebindings [08:54] kdeadmin i386, amd64 scheduled for build, others cannot be retried because kdebindings is condition to them and only i386 and amd64 are built for workspace [08:54] third level of tree retried [08:55] kdeplasma-addons pending builds from kdeedu [08:55] ---tree retried--- [09:06] Pffft, what's happened to Sun Java in Maverick :-s [09:10] yeah! [09:12] * Trouble re-installs kubuntu-restricted-extras [09:12] Let's give this new-fangled openjdk another go [09:13] is it just me or does krunner not support protocols anymore? [09:23] apachelogger: it is not just you [09:23] Someone, please help me with http://launchpadlibrarian.net/51744908/buildlog_ubuntu-maverick-i386.krename_4.0.4-2ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz [09:23] halp! [09:23] in #ubuntuone you need to honk to get help [09:24] most strange :P [09:24] tells you who is controlling u1 though :P [09:24] Trouble: tell me if it works for you, I don't have luck with java, maverick and the web, sun-java6 made firefox segfault, so I installed openjdk which doesn't segfault firefox but gives me an error message, chromium can't find it, arora tells me to download java and rekonq doesn't even want to start... [09:24] bilalakhtar: retry [09:28] Quintasan: you are always so mean :'( [09:31] shadeslayer: plasma's locationrunner.cpp contains similar code to what rekonq should be doing [09:41] * apachelogger hugs Nightrose for being awesome [09:42] * Nightrose hugs apachelogger because he's apachelogger [09:42] :D [09:43] I am all apachelogger today ^^ [09:43] ^^ [09:43] * Nightrose is listening to Ice Dance by Chris Babson [09:43] ^ awesome song [09:44] * Nightrose wonders what made apachelogger think she's awesome atm [09:44] (not that i disagree... :P) [09:45] Nightrose: that thought just poped up ^^ [09:45] hehe ok [09:46] apachelogger: :< [09:46] good news [09:47] project-neon-qt.deb now takes 142mb instead of 1,5 kb [09:47] kubotu: script add news m.reply "Good news everyone!" [09:47] okay then :) [09:47] kubotu: news [09:47] Good news everyone! [09:47] Quintasan: supersizeme [09:47] is that with lzma? [09:47] * apachelogger is wondering why that beastie is soooo large [09:47] yeah [09:47] scary [09:48] apachelogger: everything packed into a one, large file? [09:48] yeah, but that large [09:48] isnt the source like about the same size? [09:48] lol [09:48] ohhh [09:48] source is ~300mb [09:48] oh [09:48] ok then [09:48] tar gzipped [09:48] do you have debug symbols stripped btw? [09:48] since when is qt source so large/ [09:49] last time I uploaded qt it was < 150 fo rsure [09:49] if (KProtocolInfo::isHelperProtocol(url.protocol())) { [09:49] //kDebug() << "helper protocol" << url.protocol() <<"call external application" ; [09:49] match.setText(i18n("Launch with %1", KProtocolInfo::exec(url.protocol()))); [09:49] } else { [09:49] I belive my rules do not mention stripping [09:49] //kDebug() << "protocol managed by browser" << url.protocol(); [09:49] match.setText(i18n("Go to %1", url.prettyUrl())); [09:49] } [09:49] now that code is mad [09:49] Quintasan: ppas will strip to /dev/null unless you either tell it to not strip at all or strip to a dbg package yourself [09:50] now back to the beauty of code [09:50] soo [09:50] actually, the code is pretty beautiful, well except for not using i18nc [09:50] BUT [09:50] there is some rather annoying assumption made [09:51] see, kde protocols can either be helpers or not, helpers would be protocols that start an own application to handle the argument [09:51] whereas non-helpers are such that can be handled by a kio slave (for example) [09:52] thing is, I am not sure the assumption that one can always launch the executable string of a helper is true [09:53] especially not considering KProtocolInfo::exec will return the whole stupid string with placeholders not replaced [09:53] soo [09:53] so what you get for apt:firefox is -> "Launch with apturl %u" [09:53] apachelogger: http://pastebin.com/sCn8SExV <-- should I add override_dh_strip? [09:53] despite that bogus %u, it is still od [09:54] you enter apt:firefox in this case indicating that you want to install firefox using apt [09:54] and krunner tells you to "Launch with apturl" [09:54] apachelogger: besides, do we need stripping to another dbg package? [09:54] that is not perfect UX at all [09:54] what the hell [09:54] apachelogger: hello [09:54] no times for monologues [09:54] Quintasan: well, not everyone will want to have dbg symbols? [09:55] everytime I start talking I end up in a monolog bcause my supremacy prevents you from following me [09:55] well [09:55] no [09:55] it is the lonely life of a genius :( [09:55] dh_strip --dbg-package=project-neon-qt-dbg [09:56] is that enough? [09:56] * apachelogger starts crying and runs to Nightrose [09:56] Quintasan: ought too be [09:56] awwww [09:56] * Nightrose holds apachelogger [09:56] * apachelogger feels better already [09:56] apachelogger: configure mentions -no-separate-debug-info [09:57] qt will build .debug symbols files by default IIRC [09:57] awesome [09:57] with that configure tag you prevent that so stripping can take place [09:57] you could also remove that configure setting and use other means to get the .debug files packaged [09:57] no thanks [09:57] strip is better [09:58] apachelogger: do I have to create an install file for dbg package? [09:58] well, I have to but I wonder how do I know where are the dbg files [09:59] with stripping you do not need to [09:59] there is nothing for dh_install to do [09:59] debug symbols will be added to the package by dh_strip [10:00] apachelogger: so I should just add an entry in control, right? [10:01] aye [10:01] and the other package should have an appropriate install file [10:02] apachelogger: well, project-neon-qt.install -> debian/tmp/opt/project-neon/* [10:02] that's all [10:03] oki [10:05] well [10:05] testbuilding once again [10:05] apachelogger: well, I think the rest will go just fine [10:06] apachelogger: I was wondering if it is possible to build packages in LP using repos other than main [10:06] Quintasan: sure, you just need to configure other deps [10:06] you should however carefully consider [10:07] in most cases you should not do this, but instead copy packages you need [10:07] hmm [10:07] copying would be better [10:07] that way we can use a version known to work [10:07] and provide all bleeding edge features [10:08] so users can crash their systems in various ways [10:08] :) [10:08] * Quintasan would never expect that many people like running unstable builds of everything [10:08] the thrill of that something may break any second without any reason [10:08] :O === amichairo is now known as amichair [10:37] * Trouble kills plasma-desktop again and runs without it because it keeps running like a dog [10:46] Quintasan: where else would we get our rush from? [10:54] oh [10:54] my [10:54] dalek [10:54] Quintasan: !!!!!! [10:55] what? [10:55] sec [10:55] this is epic [10:56] how can something be this epic that u take away my attention form Heroes of Newerth? [10:56] It'd better be epic or I just lost my seriall killer streak for nothing [10:57] apachelogger: You are asking for Trouble [10:58] Quintasan: http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/screencasts/tfa.ogv [10:58] Trouble: http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/screencasts/tfa.ogv :P [10:58] Why is apachelogger asking after me?? [10:58] :-p [10:58] \o/ [10:58] http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/screencasts/tfa.ogv http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/screencasts/tfa.ogv http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/screencasts/tfa.ogv http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/screencasts/tfa.ogv [10:58] Beat me to the joke!! [10:58] weeeeeh [10:58] Nightrose: ^^^ [10:58] look what I did to your product [10:59] muhahahahahahaah [10:59] lol [10:59] oh god [10:59] Awesoe [10:59] * Nightrose is too afraid to watch [10:59] so much win [10:59] told ya [11:00] kubotu: order cookies for apachelogger [11:00] * kubotu slides a whole bunch of world's finest cookies down the bar to apachelogger. [11:00] [11:00] if only quassel were using plasma for the chatview :D :D :D [11:01] apachelogger: make it so it leaks mem [11:01] that would be trollface-worth [11:01] :P [11:01] lol [11:01] cannot [11:01] stupid javascript does not give me a heap [11:01] maybe plasma takes care of the leaking [11:01] hey guys, I have and awesome plasmoid for you [11:01] after few seconds channel is full of FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU- [11:01] * apachelogger never got disappointed by plasma regarding memleaks :P [11:02] srsly though, this is awesome [11:07] shadeslayer: http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/screencasts/amarokNplaydget.ogv [11:09] apachelogger: what are thos icons in the upper right corner? [11:11] likeback or whats it called [11:11] feedback feature thingy for pre-releases & git [11:11] kmess also uses it IIRC === bhargav is now known as kronos === kubotu_ is now known as kubotu [12:18] Quintasan, shadeslayer: I think I will do a hello world intro and then do a poll whether to continue with trollface of playdget [12:19] intro will be at least 15 minutes I estimate, and if a lot of people have no idea of programming going for trollface and playdget will not work out timewise I am afraid [12:41] Why didn't someone warn me Maverick would be buggy before I upgraded! :-D [12:41] I feel cheated! [12:42] * Trouble demands a refund! [12:51] apachelogger: stripping (:O) works fine [12:51] I think it's ready to upload [12:52] /win 21 [12:52] tsk [12:53] how are we all doing? [12:53] Riddell: hiho [12:55] bored in airport [12:55] jjesse-droid: do you own a motorola droid or it's just android's generic suffix? :P [12:56] enjoy it while it lasts jjesse, won't be too long before we're all reminising about how nice it was to be able to fly around the world [12:58] Quintasan yes I have a devoid the Nick is how I seperate where I'm chatting from === freeflyi1g is now known as freeflying [12:58] ion my netbook I'm jjesse-netbook [12:58] oh [12:58] jjesse-droid: I wish Milestones didn't have signed bootloaders [12:58] lucky Droid users [12:59] its easier for me plus don't get Nick collisions [12:59] I just ssh to my irc machine and that's it :P [13:00] I'm not that smart [13:02] but hey, doing ctrl+a-d is impossible on droid I think [13:03] I think it is [13:03] though I do haves [13:04] though I do have a nice SSH client on the phone [13:04] sheytan: \o [13:06] Quintasan hi, what's up? :) [13:06] i'm only for a while here :) [13:07] sheytan: well, I will need testers for Project Neon soon [13:07] :P [13:07] what is it? :D [13:07] nightly builds of KDE and Amarok [13:08] Sorry, i can't today :( [13:08] sheytan: well, it's not today [13:09] I don't think we will get it working this week :P [13:09] tomorrow afternoon sure ;) [13:09] Oh :D [13:09] so this 'soon' is not so soon :D [13:11] ok, have to go :) [13:11] bye :) [14:14] 4.4.92 is fully built on i386. [14:14] ScottK: on amd 64 too i think [14:15] shadeslayer: kdeplasma-addons is still building [14:15] ScottK: http://pastebin.com/VubmsyxZ [14:15] ScottK: all the major stuff is done ;) [14:16] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeplasma-addons/4:4.4.92-0ubuntu1/+build/1863656 [14:16] my you boon too shirt arrived :) [14:16] ScottK: can you help me with rbot? [14:16] No [14:16] its FTBFS :P [14:17] * ScottK tries to avoid things having to do with languages that start with R. [14:17] hehe... [14:17] In any case, if it's not Kubuntu/KDE, you should ask on #ubuntu-motu [14:17] [muon] jmthomas * 1149045 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/ (5 files in 2 dirs) Add clear() functions to the Depends and Technical Details tabs to prevent stale pointers after cache reloads. Fixes a crash encounterable after installing something and then pressing upgrade [14:17] ScottK: ok,but on a side note,it seems that the package builds in pbuilder but not in the archiv builders :S [14:17] *archive [14:18] which.. i have never encountered :S [14:18] shadeslayer: Ask me on #ubuntu-motu and give me a link to the build log. [14:18] ok [14:54] Riddell: Based on my testing and my discussions with agateau, I'm pretty confident plasma-widget-menubar should go in to the netbook default as we discussed. There's a pending MIR that's going to need to get approved. [14:57] I got a build failure report which seemed to be a reuslt of cmake not being available on a SPARC chroot. Is that known? [14:58] http://launchpadlibrarian.net/51710129/buildlog_ubuntu-maverick-sparc.grantlee_0.1.2-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz === jtechidna is now known as JontheEchidna [14:59] ScottK: looks like we need to override /usr/share/kde4/apps/plasma-netbook/init/00-defaultLayout.js in k-n-d-s [14:59] steveire: sparc is busted. It will most likely be removed as a platform for this release. (It was only a community supported port before) [15:00] Riddell: Sounds right. [15:00] steveire: I'd not waste any time on sparc. It's just waiting for feature freeze (and it's still broken) to die. [15:00] steveire: maybe cmake didn't compile on sparc, we don't want to spend time on obscure architectures though, i386 amd64 and arm keep us busy enough [15:00] Riddell: It didn't. [15:01] JontheEchidna: around? need to report a bug with muon :D [15:02] shadeslayer: shoot [15:02] Ok. Is there some way I can not get build failures like that then? [15:02] steveire: Not really. You just have to ignore them. [15:02] You could probably come up with a mail filter regex involving build failure mails for sparc ... [15:02] JontheEchidna: when you upgrade tons of packages,like about 150,and muon starts downloading them,when the connection drops midway muon displays a error for each package,so that totals about 150 errors :P [15:03] ah [15:03] yeah, I was afraid that might happen [15:04] JontheEchidna: yeah,so my suggestion is,make it not display more than 5 warnings at a time,if that can be done :) [15:04] I'll have to compress the warnings/errors, and display all of them in one dialog at the end [15:04] :) [15:06] Riddell: kbackup is sitting in source New. I can't believe it didn't get packaged before. I'd appreciate it if you'd put it on the list for your archive day tomorrow. [15:07] source new /is/ the list for my archive day :) [15:07] :o [15:07] Riddell: welcome back :D [15:09] thanks shadeslayer, good to be back [15:09] Riddell: what happened? [15:09] the sun didn't set and lots of people had hair in primary colours [15:10] Riddell: to your internet connection :D [15:11] shadeslayer: oh dunno, they like to change the IP address occationally [15:11] Riddell: oh your on a static ip? [15:12] no I'm not, that's the problem. today it's host-84-9-233-104.dslgb.com [15:12] oh [15:13] btw the quality of the shirts on shop.ubuntu need to be improved :S [15:14] [libqapt] jmthomas * 1149067 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/worker/worker.cpp SVN_SILENT: Style fix [15:17] [libqapt] jmthomas * 1149070 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/worker/ (worker.cpp worker.h) We can forward-declare this include [15:23] Just FYI https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20100712 [15:24] * shadeslayer looks [15:25] txwikinger: finally :D [15:25] shadeslayer: very thin fabric, isnt it? [15:25] yeah def dont want my kubuntu shirt getting wet while it's on me [15:25] maco: apart from that the quality of the print feels cheap :( [15:25] seeing from the fact that i paid 18 pounds for it [15:26] heh youdont want to know what shipping to .us is [15:26] [libqapt] jmthomas * 1149073 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/worker/worker.cpp The worker timeout was a bit too high. Lowering it should help avoid potential problems with non-responsiveness on the worker's part [15:26] i fear itll wash off after 5-6 cleaning cycles [15:26] maco: you definitely dont want to know the shipping rates to india than [15:27] Riddell ordered one delivered to his place for lower shipping and then brought it with him when he visited the US to hand to me cuz it was cheaper that way round [15:27] *then [15:27] oy... yeah.... [15:27] i shipped mine to UK.. and then someone got it for me from there [15:27] maco: hehe :D [15:27] when i tried doing that to have it go to Riddell's house, it told me it could only ship to billing address :( [15:27] so i had to get him to order it [15:28] i paid him back by buying him lunch as he wouldnt take cash [15:28] maco: well... it has a option to change billing addresses now [15:28] oh well thats handy [15:29] Riddell: allergic to money? :P [15:30] maco: but its my first FOSS $DISTRO shirt... so,looks pretty cool [15:30] i have an ubuntu shirt, but its a freebie, not actually my size [15:30] plus, its gnome [15:30] oh hm wait. duhhh forgot to count the UDS shirts [15:30] those fit :) [15:31] i have one of those "ask me about ubuntu" shirts you get in conference packs, and its like a men's large, and i'm a women's small.... [15:31] maco: i have a ubuntu shirt.. not a kubuntu one.. :P [15:31] * shadeslayer ducks [15:32] ill get the kubuntu logo printed on the back :P [15:32] ill get it printed so big the ubuntu logo looks teeny tiny :P [15:37] txwikinger: hehe.. the last link ( the bigger picture ) points to compiz :P [15:38] txwikinger: You might mention to triagers that the current k3b is available in lucid backports so people can test. [15:38] txwikinger: also,can you set the row color of the bug i touched to green? i cant seem to do it correctly :D [15:45] ScottK: Yes will do [15:48] ScottK: done.. \ [15:48] shadeslayer: done.. I also changed the instruction.. somehow they were wrong [15:48] txwikinger: thanks :D [15:53] [muon] jmthomas * 1149083 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/DetailsTabs/MainTab.cpp Hide knotify progress notifications. They were shown to be confusing, since KIO says that the job is "completed" regardless or not of whether it was completed successfully. [16:16] launchpad [16:16] must [16:16] die [16:16] in [16:16] a [16:16] fire [16:19] Quintasan: hehe.. why? [16:30] shadeslayer: If you have to ask, you'll never understand. [16:30] ScottK: can you set bug 596926 to some importance level? ( i think medium is good ) [16:30] Launchpad bug 596926 in k3b (Ubuntu) "k3b crashes on clicking Settings > Configure k3b" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/596926 [16:30] ScottK: hehe :D [16:31] agateau, ping [16:31] rbelem: pong, sorry for the inactivity on reviewboard [16:31] agateau, np :-) [16:32] rbelem: akademy usually turns me into an offline human being [16:32] eheheh [16:32] :-) [16:32] agateau, do you have time to take a look at the patch? :-) [16:33] rbelem: probably tomorrow [16:33] rbelem: i am catching up with email right now [16:33] agateau, i think we are almost there \o/ [16:33] [muon] jmthomas * 1149093 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/ (MainWindow.cpp MainWindow.h) When we receive fetch errors or commit errors, save them in a queue that is presented to the user in a messagebox after the operation is finished. <- shadeslayer [16:33] rbelem: good [16:33] oh, and apachelogger ^ [16:33] good [16:36] agateau, tomorrow i will be offline, but wednesday i will be back :-) [16:37] rbelem: ok [16:37] JontheEchidna: me likes ++ [16:37] JontheEchidna++ [16:37] ^.^ [16:38] agateau: I see plasma-netbook fell off your autojoin list again. [16:38] ScottK: true [16:38] it's not in my trunk setup [16:38] * agateau connects [16:39] apachelogger, do you know if the maverick package chain still broken? [16:39] should be good now [16:39] rbelem: are you going to testbuild? [16:39] apachelogger, yep :-) [16:39] apachelogger, i'm updating my pbuilder now [16:40] cool [16:41] :-) [16:44] hey ScottK [16:45] Hey rbelem [16:45] :-) [16:45] ScottK, i will test today if kdm-plasma is working [16:45] rbelem: Excellent. [16:46] ScottK: btw bug 472888 doesnt look like a k3b,right? [16:46] Launchpad bug 472888 in k3b (Ubuntu) "kubuntu karmic can't read data DVDs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/472888 [16:46] more of a util-linux bug [16:46] shadeslayer: I'm probably not the best person to ask. [16:46] hmm .. ok [16:46] anyone else? [16:46] * agateau pulls the maverick trigger on his laptop [16:46] ScottK, and i will make the changes to the build system to it build out of kde-base-workspace [16:46] * ScottK looks at txwikinger (since he's mr bug day) [16:47] * ScottK nods [16:47] txwikinger: https://launchpad.net/bugs/472888 [16:47] Launchpad bug 472888 in k3b (Ubuntu) "kubuntu karmic can't read data DVDs" [Undecided,New] [16:47] * shadeslayer loves the ubuntu font and autohinting [16:49] shadeslayer: yes .. change it back to util-linux and ask the reporter to test it with lucid [16:49] txwikinger: ok === hrw is now known as hrw|gone [16:52] txwikinger: done [16:53] uh, is there yet any release of new ubuntu font? [16:53] Tm_T: apart from the PPA? [16:54] what ppa? [16:54] :P [16:54] Tm_T: one sec [16:54] private ppa [16:54] all ubuntu members have access to that ppa [16:55] Tm_T: that ppa :D [16:55]