=== jtheuer_ is now known as jt|away [00:04] maco: did you have answer from her? [00:04] jillsmitt: ipod syncing [00:08] maco: what time is it there? [00:08] where i live: 7pm. where she lives: 1am [00:11] and where i live 5 am [00:11] the question is "Where they live?" =) [00:48] hi, does anyone know when ldconfig creates symlinks and when it doesn't, because i just ran it on a private directory, expecting it to create a link libtest.so.1 to libtest.so.1.0.0 and it didn't. is that what it's supposed to do? [00:50] also if all libraries are supposed to be named lib[name].so.[version] why can't gcc find them when you run gcc -l[name], and how do you tell it so you can find them? [00:52] anyone? [00:53] i have a question too - i want to use sip softphone in KDE, what i need to install? [01:03] maybe you should investigate kphone? [01:03] jcgs: unfortunally kphone is based on Qt3 [01:04] is that a problem? it looks like it works fine in lucid? [01:05] i know, but it will be only one qt3-based software [01:06] i am searching qt4 solution [01:06] anyway thanks [01:07] there's also twinkle, but that also depends on lib-qt3 [01:07] why does it matter which version of qt it depends on? [01:10] jcgs: i does not [01:12] jillsmitt: this might interest you: http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.comp.voip.twinkle/month=20100301 [01:14] jcgs: thank you [01:37] how can i share one directory in kubuntu? [01:37] i am pressing "configure sharing" but nothig happened [01:58] Hi [01:58] * xfact figuring out the probs === root is now known as Guest2660 [02:28] anyone having a good experience with a media center software? especially for watching movies with subtitles? [02:32] avihay: i use VLC for movies with subtitles [02:32] ya, but I want to use a remote and a TV === jake_ is now known as K [02:34] and I want to use the remote to select what I want to watch too, so the various vlc remote plugins won't cut it === brandon is now known as brcshopc [04:00] hi! does anyone know hot to make ipod touch work with amarok, like it does in rhythmbox on gnome 2.30? [04:10] nbnds: hello, try #amarok, maybe they knows [04:12] ty [04:17] there is no skype in repository any more? [04:24] can anyone here help me with kde3/kubuntu [04:26] I keep asking, but noone usually answers and there's nothing online about this: I arrange my desktop icons at ~/ and I use a top panel, so everytime my desktop loads on restart my icons are either underneath the top panel or all over, until I move one, and then they still don't go back in the right place [I just need the command to move icon and put it in a bash script] [04:33] mcurran: wait and maybe somebody helps, can you post a screenshot with this, just want to know how it looks === rackIT is now known as rackIT_AFK [04:53] jillsmitt: http://imagebin.org/104937 [04:55] mcurran: looks great, there must be something in desktop properties... i dont know, sorry [05:18] is there a speed difference between kubuntu and mint 9 kde? [05:24] is there a speed difference between kubuntu and mint 9 kde? [05:26] mint9 might be slower due to it's greatness (all extra codecs), but they should be the same, maybe it would be faster since you'll get the proprietary drivers right off the bat. [05:26] but there's really not a difference in the DE versions? [05:27] go with gnome, you won't look back. [05:28] gnome ain't quite as pretty, nor is xfce. using xfce now [05:28] They're all customizable to make them look like anything. [06:45] my mouse has 2 additional buttons, can i set any actions on it? === yofel_ is now known as yofel [07:13] anybody know how to get konqueror to truly go fullscreen hiding the status, address and tab bar? === mike is now known as pulaski [08:01] what's the recommended way to configure smb shared folders in lucid? [08:08] I was installing KDE in my Ubuntu 10.04, before starting installation it prompts for choosing the default Display manager, I chosen kdm, but now I want my gdm back, any ideas? [08:38] hi I have a bug with pidgin on kubuntu 10.04 === marco_ is now known as 77CAAXIF4 [08:51] How do I set a default soundcard, or blacklist the ones i don't use? [08:51] sure, Xine works, but I need sound for my browser [08:52] Th3raid0r_: try system settings -> multimedia, set the default sound card for each category [08:52] I have done that [08:52] I just said that anything Xine or system sounds work correctly [08:53] but anything like a browser that doesn't use the xine or system backend ports to one of my other sound cards [08:54] Th3raid0r_: in that case I don't know... sorry :-) [08:58] Wow, does anybody feel like answering my question? There are hundreds of people in here [09:09] hi all :-) [09:09] I got a problem using utf8 [09:10] is there a menu to set encoding in kubuntu ? [09:11] I tryed the system wide variable in /etc/environment [09:11] but kde seems to ignore it [09:12] as "locale" command didn't answer the same in a terminal and in konsole [09:13] how can you display wifi network information that shows what mode you're connected with? I've tried several things and just can't find it. I have a wireless 'n' router, in mixed mode, and I want to know what mode my laptop is in right now [09:16] pat5star: I think iwconfig shows that. [09:23] jussi: sry, got distracted. nope...I've tried many commands, iwconfig doesn't show you that either [09:23] jussi: but thanks for the suggestion! [09:33] How do i figure out the sound driver names for my HDA ATI HDMI card or my CA0106 [09:50] hello [09:51] I just upgraded to KDE 4.5 RC2, and started doing some python coding in Kate [09:52] but, everytime I save a file, I get the following alert: "The filter/check plug-in 'python-encoding' could not be found, still continue saving of ..." [09:53] Does anyone else have this problem? If yes, how can I get rid of it? [10:01] dihae: sounds like you miss a plugin in kate or didn't activate it [10:02] Mamarok: that's what I thought too, though I've been looking in that plugin list, and did'nt see anything there that looks relevant.. [10:03] So has anyone figured out the AMD proprietary drivers and kubuntu? [10:03] dihae: could be a missing package [10:03] Th3raid0r_: I use the free Radeon driver, works best for me [10:03] depends on your card [10:04] Mamarok: I used to use that, but it worked VERY poorly with wine [10:04] Th3raid0r_: well, I don't use wine at all, so I can't tell [10:04] I have a 4650 pro [10:04] it's what works best on my system, you can try the proprietary one to see if it works better [10:05] I am trying it right now, KDE absolutely hates it, even with KMS disabled... or so I think... how do I know if I disabled KMS correctly? [10:05] install the fglrx packages and then use the hardware drivers settings to change [10:05] what is KMS? [10:06] Kernel Modesetting, it allows Ubuntu/kubuntu to boot as fast as it does [10:06] It creates poor performance in almost every proprietary set up [10:06] well, I only tried a few seconds, it was a disaster here, so I switched back to the radeon driver [10:16] yesterday samba shares were ok, today it says i have no permission to access it. whats wrong?? [10:24] Okay, I am back, now what? [10:25] lol, wrong channel === amichairo is now known as amichair [10:33] why does the 'Set date and time automatically' checkbox in time settings always get unchecked? === wire is now known as Guest44663 === hish is now known as Guest9091 [10:50] Hi. I installed Gimp recently, but it's in english, it's not a big problem, I understand perfectly, but I would like to have all applications in spanish, so... Is there any way to change gimp's language to spanish? [10:51] hey [10:51] where is the noob channel for freenode? [10:51] wire_: You mean the main help channel? [10:52] yea [10:52] #freenode [10:52] k thanks [10:56] Mamarok: I've been looking for missing packages, or non-active plugins that could be of any relevance, but I can't seem to find it.. reinstalling kate didn't help (and I actually didn't expect that either). [11:08] Hello, I need to know why my shutdown has stopped working [11:09] can anyone help me? [11:11] dihae: It looks like there used to be a plugin for that, it is now probably integrated, so you should try to remove $HOME/.kde/share/config/katerc [11:12] Misterio: do you have the Spanish locale and Spanish Gimp packages installed? Then click on the Help menu and change the langauge of the application, it should be in SPanish after a restart [11:12] Mamarok: a gimp restart or a computer restart? [11:12] Gimp restart of course :) [11:13] you only have to restart the computer for a kernel change [11:15] Um, help ;w; I can't shutdown properly and i think its also stopping kde from saving any changes i make to things [11:15] okay :) [11:18] seriously? [11:55] Can't anyone help me? ): [11:55] I need to fix this whole shutdown issue [12:04] hello guys [12:05] I purchased a new acer 5745G laptop n i am currently hunting for the network card drivers for kubuntu [12:06] Atheros Communications AR8151 [12:06] can anyone help me finding the drivers for it [12:07] has anyone successfully installed the drivers n the Nic card is working fine? [12:07] Omkar: 30 secs of googling brings up this: http://partner.atheros.com/Drivers.aspx [12:07] Omkar: and this: http://www.oz9aec.net/index.php/linux/351-ubuntu-linux-on-the-acer-aspire-5745g-laptop [12:09] How do I make sure Hal is runninggg [12:13] but the thing is for doing any good search have to come in windows n then again have to switch back to linux [12:14] also both the network cards that is broadcom one n also the ahteros one don't work in kubuntu [12:14] thats the thing [12:14] also gcc compiler wasn't there I suppose [12:18] Hello? I need help; my shutdown buttons dont work and I can't shut down or save the settings I have properly === Guest9091 is now known as hish [12:21] @Symphonist hey go to the system settings [12:21] login manger [12:22] and check the shutdown in the local for everyone [12:22] wait where's the login manager? [12:22] in the system settings [12:23] at the advance tab [12:23] right, but is it like in Advanced or something? I cant see-oh okay [12:24] okay here I am [12:24] it's set for local [12:24] local everybody [12:25] ok in the konsole [12:25] go to the /sbin [12:26] chmod 777 halt [12:26] here i am [12:26] done [12:26] hish: halt is a symlink. [12:26] chmod 777 reboot [12:27] oh yes you right @Torch [12:27] done [12:27] hish: that won't change anything. users can now overwrite this file. what should that help? [12:27] Symphonist: you should not do that. [12:27] oh [12:27] derp [12:27] :c [12:28] I was think it a permissons problem [12:28] i am right or not @Torch [12:29] i heard it was something about hal, but hal is deprecated ): [12:29] i have no idea whats going on [12:29] it's really annoying because KNetworkManager stopped loading automatically at bootup too [12:29] it happened with me atime before [12:29] Syndaemon isn't doing it either [12:30] i fix it by check the shutdown at the system settings [12:30] fo everybody [12:30] yeah, but it was already set that way [12:30] sorry @Symphonist [12:31] I don't know what is the problem [12:31] hish: the permissions of the file /sbin/reboot have nothing to do with this. [12:31] hish: it's 755 by default anyway, so a normal user can run it. it just won't do anything without root privileges. [12:31] i've borked my graphic card settings. can someone help me fix it? [12:32] i've installed all the nvidia packages [12:32] That's alright, hish, you tried to help ;w; [12:32] i've recreated xorg.conf [12:32] using the dpkg-reconfigure [12:32] Symphonist: hal is a likely culprit here. don let talk of it being supposedly "deprecated" confuse you, that's not the issue. [12:32] oh, okay [12:32] what could be still wrong? basically kdm doesn't load [12:32] so um, how would I check or fix it? ;w; [12:33] poyntz: pastebin a log of an unsuccessful boot. you should find that in /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old [12:35] Torch; would it help to know that I've been trying to get syndaemon -d to run on autostart? [12:35] Torch: http://pastebin.com/khyTd6ay [12:35] Symphonist: you could check if powerdevil is running (iirc, the shutdown/reboot/logout code distinguishes between powerdevil there or not). [12:35] Also that KNetworkmanager has stopped booting automatically [12:35] how do i do that? [12:36] Symphonist: system settings -> advanced -> service manager [12:36] Symphonist: in the bottom list there should be an entry "power devil". is it checked? [12:36] poyntz: you're missing the nvidia kernel module [12:36] yup [12:36] yes it was [12:37] Status Running [12:37] hi [12:37] Torch: how do I install that? [12:37] Symphonist: it might be worth a shot to uncheck it and see if that changes anything. probably won't, but why not try it. [12:37] hiii [12:37] Torch: what package is it in? [12:37] poyntz: do you have access to the non-working system right now? [12:38] Torch: just the consoles mate [12:38] Torch: Yeah it gave me nothing [12:38] Torch: what i mean is not X [12:38] poyntz: please run "dkms status" from the console [12:39] Torch: it tells me they're all installed [12:39] poyntz: can you pastebin that please? [12:39] Torch: http://pastebin.com/jHBw0vXs [12:41] poyntz: you could try re-buildind and re-installing the module [12:41] poyntz: using dkms. [12:42] poyntz: ah, wait. something else.. what does "modprobe nvidia" give you? [12:42] ;c; [12:42] Symphonist: can you pastebin the output of "ps auxw | grep hal"? [12:42] OH! this all started happening around when I ran nvidia-xconfig! [12:43] Torch: nothing [12:43] poyntz: then what does "lsmod | grep nvidia" produce? [12:44] Torch: http://pastebin.com/D9aN3dUC [12:44] http://pastebin.com/1wAcCdFD [12:44] Torch [12:44] poyntz: hmm. looks like my initial analysis is wrong, then. [12:44] Symphonist: that looks alright [12:45] Torch: what have you deduced? [12:45] ;c [12:45] poyntz: i mean, it's not that the module is missing. [12:45] poyntz: it's there and can be inserted into the kernel. [12:46] poyntz: did this setup ever work with your graphics card? is the card very new? [12:46] Torch: I removed the nvidia packages to try and get the latest driver from the nvidia site [12:46] poyntz: oh noes ;-) [12:47] Torch: but i've since reinstalled everything (aka, sudo apt-get install nvidia-*) [12:48] Torch: so even if the new drivers are borked the old should take their place no? [12:48] poyntz: no. [12:48] Torch: unless xorg.conf has the wrong settings [12:48] poyntz: unfortunately it's not that simple. [12:48] and points to a driver that aint there [12:48] by the way, pontyz [12:48] there's a repository for the latest nvidia drivers [12:48] ubuntu-x, specifically [12:49] Symphonist: ahh k. where could i find the ppa? [12:49] Torch: is there anyway to work out what's wrong? should i pastebin xorg.conf? [12:50] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates [12:50] poyntz: xorg.conf does not allow specifying paths to drivers or versions, so that should not be the issue. [12:50] Torch: any other things I could try? [12:50] Symphonist: thanks mate. but i'm in a console. i can't do anything with the link other than transcribe it to paper maybe [12:51] poyntz: problem is, i'm using dkms for years now and have not messed with the drivers from nvidia.com ever since. i'm a little out of practice ;-) [12:51] ah right [12:51] Symphonist: thanks tho :) [12:51] well once you've sorted this out, come back and i'll give it to you again [12:51] I might be under a different name though [12:51] Torch: that's cool. i was just sick of kubuntu selecting outdated drivers [12:52] even if i installed the latest [12:52] i swear i still got an old driver [12:52] poyntz: however they do work fine. [12:52] So um [12:52] poyntz: also, once you start using the ones from nvidia.com, you're responsible for updating them and rebuilding them alone. that's not fun. [12:52] Torch: i think it's a simple config setting, because when i restart X almost tries to load but fails [12:53] *restart, X almost tries to load [12:53] poyntz: that's what X always does when startup fails, doesn't mean anything. [12:53] ah k [12:53] poyntz: and it does say it cannot find the kernel module, after all. [12:53] would the output of sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart help? [12:53] Oh poyntz! [12:53] you mean like, you get the "Ubuntu is booting into low graphics mode" thing? [12:54] nothing at all [12:54] like X is borked [12:54] all i've got is consoles [12:54] huh ;o [12:54] just doesn't load up [12:54] flicks me straight onto a console [12:54] as in bash/terminal [12:54] whatever you want to call it [12:54] have you tried sudo service kdm start? [12:55] That usually gets me into graphics when I run it [12:55] Symphonist: yes [12:55] Symphonist: as long as X is working [12:55] Symphonist: kdm needs X [12:55] yeah, i see :c [12:55] yeh didn't work :/ [12:55] but i get ya point [12:56] the issue should be solvable tho [12:56] poyntz: sure. [12:56] where fiddling with a graphic card issue [12:56] *we're [12:57] so i shouldn't need to clean install lucid again [12:57] poyntz: this is defintely fixable [12:57] and it's probs something really simple that we've overlooked [12:57] poyntz: i've never come across a linux system that was so badly hosed it needed re-install. [12:57] poyntz: my guess is there's some leftovers from the nvidia.com-driver install. [12:58] yaa. often i fix most problems but just updates or installing random packages [12:58] poyntz: but it's hard to diagnose remotely. [12:58] i take too many risks with this stuff when i really don't know i'm doing. [12:59] it's not a new issue [12:59] i always screw up stuff like this [12:59] i know the general area, then remove and reinstall stuff and hope for the best [13:00] um, hang on [13:00] did you say you installed nvidia-*? [13:00] yep [13:00] but [13:00] Wouldn't that install /all/ the nvidia drivers, though [13:00] um [13:00] Running the gamut from 96 to current? [13:00] it installs everything that starts with nvidia- [13:00] which i dunno [13:00] hey guys how can i uninstall a package with dpkg that i used gdebi installer to install [13:00] maybe there are other packages that weren't installed [13:01] eagles0513875_: dpkg -e [13:01] but you'd think they'd be installed as dependencies [13:01] yeah um, you might wanna try purging that and installing only nvidia-current [13:01] purging what? [13:01] sudo autoremove --purge nvidia-* ? [13:01] i mean [13:01] an old version of skype [13:02] apt-get autoremove [13:02] nvidia-*. When installing the nvidia stuff I heard that nvidia-current, nvidia-current modaliases and nvidia-common were all you needed [13:02] ty torch [13:02] Nvidia-current is supposed to be, the driver itself [13:02] ahh k [13:02] so the latest driver? [13:02] Torch: does that remove it from the system [13:02] so if you installed /all the drivers/, well that might be why [13:02] it should be. If it isn't, just use the repo I told you about [13:02] eagles0513875_: yes. [13:02] im having nvidia-current issues as well Symphonist in regards to kernel modules not installing [13:02] I used it and it works great [13:02] Torch: that didnt work [13:03] its showing that its still installed [13:03] Symphonist: only problem is i can't follow that link directly [13:03] Symphonist: i'll see what i can do in elink [13:03] *elinks [13:03] Well, if you install the normal driver it should work again [13:03] eagles0513875_: what did you do, exactly? and what was the output, exactly? [13:03] i ran sudo dpkg -e package name did nothing [13:04] Symphonist: actually [13:04] where can i get the keys? [13:04] i'm guessing it'll all be on that page [13:04] the repository key? [13:04] you're on lucid, aren't you? [13:05] eagles0513875_: when it does not give any output it just worked [13:05] ok [13:05] all you /should/ need to do is run add apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swap/xupdates [13:07] apt-add-repository [13:07] er, add-apt-repository [13:07] yeah that [13:07] but um anyway [13:07] so Torch, you have no idea what could be wrong with my system? [13:08] Symphonist: not really, no. [13:08] Torch: skype is still installed cuz i can still run it [13:08] Symphonist: http://pastebin.com/dS8spTyZ [13:08] eagles0513875_: then you removed the wrong package, i would say. [13:08] Symphonist: i got an error [13:08] Torch: dpkg -e WHAT PACKAGe [13:09] aahh okay [13:09] new problem [13:09] when I click links in quassel it opens A BILLION PAGES IN KONQUEROR [13:09] maco: hi, is there any news about amarok and vlc dependencies [13:09] eagles0513875_: ah, sorry. it's not -e, it's -r [13:10] poyntz: Okay I must have gotten the url wrong [13:10] let me rekill my system I guess since konqueror wont die [13:10] Symphonist: nah you didn't [13:10] then i'll get it--oh? [13:10] Symphonist: i typed it wrong [13:10] Symphonist: but when i do an update [13:11] there's a typo in that url [13:11] it's "x-swat" [13:11] it fails to update the upgrade sources [13:11] i see [13:11] sorry ;w; [13:11] Torch: what was the last thign u said sry im on web portal and accidentally closed the channel [13:11] Symphonist: as in, "Failed to fetch..." [13:11] [14:09:38] eagles0513875_: ah, sorry. it's not -e, it's -r [13:11] Torch: ahh ok [13:12] Symphonist: it says packages.gz not found :/ [13:12] there we go Torch thanks [13:13] Symphonist: anyone i'm gonna try purging all the nvidia stuff and installing nvidia-current, nvidia-current-modaliases and nvidia-common [13:13] Symphonist: hoping for the best. thanks for the help [13:13] Torch: thanks also [13:15] did Poyntz get it to work? [13:18] Where the "Create New" menu elements are located? === laptop is now known as Guest78011 === jtheuer is now known as jt|away === jt|away is now known as jtheuer [14:25] hi === jtheuer is now known as jt|away === jt|away is now known as jtheuer [14:35] Ahahaha [14:35] aren't I brilliant [14:35] hey, um what's the command for the kde base system [14:36] oh nevermind [14:43] hello === jtheuer is now known as jt|away === jtechidna is now known as JontheEchidna === jt|away is now known as jtheuer === veovis is now known as VeovisMuaddib [15:23] hi everyone, i saw on the Kubuntu.org website that kde 4.5 RC is available, so I'dl like to ask , when the official version will be released ? [15:25] AlexZIon: a few days after http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.5_Release_Schedule === rob is now known as Darthfrog [15:26] thanks James147, I was looking for this information , but I didn't found it .... [15:26] Is there a way in Konversation to only show channel tabs, and hide the server tabs? [15:27] I've been spoiled by Colloquy I'm afraid :P [15:28] James147 ,do you know if the version available is already stable enough,because I'd like to try it , but I can't risk an unstable system .. :) [15:29] VeovisMuaddib: i don't think so, but if the tab bar gets too crowded, try having the tabs on the left as a tree. [15:29] AlexZIon: its never recomended to upgrade to alpha beta or RC is you require a stable system... having said that I had not had any mojor problems with 4.5 RC1 or RC2 (although I only got that about an hour ago) [15:29] Torch: I guess that's an acceptable alternative, thanks [15:30] VeovisMuaddib: there's also #konversation [15:31] ok James147, so probably I should give it a try on my experimental machine..., thanks ... [15:31] Torch: Thanks, I didn't even think of that... If I had, I probably would have tried #konversation on freenode [15:57] in ubuntu 10.04 where can i find the grub2 file that i can modify [15:57] ? [16:00] XD = XD [16:00] XD = XD [16:00] XD = XD [16:00] XD = XD [16:00] XD = XD [16:00] XD = XD [16:00] XD = XD [16:00] erUSUL`s-DICK: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [16:00] XD = XD [16:00] XD = XD [16:00] XD = XD [16:00] XD = XD [16:00]