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jaredvHi, I'm wanting to get involved in the Ubuntu community and have been recommended to come here from the Ubuntu Youth team.00:13
zkriessejaredv: toss that in -team too k?00:16
jaredvYeah, sure.00:17
zkriessehello xiaogui02:22
xiaoguiMorning, zkriesse! :)02:23
kierkehi. how do i track all changes in my system when installing new soft?04:12
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zkriessewb robbmunson06:06
robbmunsonthanks, was trying out znc....06:07
zkriessecool06:07
* robbmunson should probably change my quit message.....but.....meh it gives a good warning to new users.06:07
zkriessehello dennis06:08
dennishello06:08
dennisI need help with lm-sensors06:09
robbmunsonWhat specifically would you like help with about lm-sensors dennis?06:12
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jagadishhello07:37
jagadishanybody home....???07:37
kermiachello jagadish07:42
jagadishkermiac, hey.... i have a small problem regarding Xorg.conf07:43
kermiacwhat's up?07:43
kermiacjagadish: what's your problem with xorg.conf?07:45
jagadishkermiac, all my xorg.conf files are backup versions if i want to edit one i cant find any07:46
kermiacjagadish: ok, what version ubuntu are you running?07:47
jagadishkermiac, 10.0407:47
kermiacjagadish: 10.04 doesn't have an xorg.conf by default07:48
jagadishkermiac, yeh ubuntu 10.0407:48
kermiacjagadish: did you install proprietory drivers?07:49
* kermiac shrugs07:53
jagadishkermiac, hey08:02
kermiacjagadish: yes?08:06
ikto_O08:15
iktheya kermiac08:15
kermiac^o-o^  hey there ikt  ^o-o^08:17
ikthow's it going?08:17
iktI'm still a little bummed we lost our au loco :(08:17
iktbut I can see why now08:17
iktthere's little to no activity08:17
kermiacgood, but dead tired. was way too busy at work today08:18
iktcan I ask what you do at work?08:18
kermiacare you in the -team channel mate?08:18
iktoh08:19
kermiacnvm, looks like you're not. I'm currently an IT tech08:20
iktnice :)08:21
iktI'm looking at getting back into it08:21
jagadish_123kermiac, hello dude.. i'm sorry i had some issues with my computer had to restart and remove my graphic card08:54
jagadish_123kermiac, i use a onboard Intel82845G display adapter...08:54
jagadish_123kermiac, is there a way to update its drivers...?08:55
jagadish_123kermiac, i cant use the fx..?!!08:55
jagadish_123i cant use the fx..?!!08:55
duanedesignmorning all11:28
philinuxo/11:31
duanedesignhey there philinux11:32
philinuxHowdy, I've been in #ubuntu, thats a busy channel11:33
jagadishhello i need some help regarding nvidia 6200A agp card11:37
jagadishhi...11:38
jagadishhello .. i have some trouble installing nvidia 6200A agp card . .. can someone help11:40
philinuxjagadish: you mean physically in to a pc11:41
jagadishno the drivers part11:44
philinuxjagadish: so what does it say in System>admin>hardware drivers?11:45
jagadishphilinux, when i was first installing ubuntu10.04 using the nvidia card there were a bunch of errors11:45
jagadishphilinux, which include a 0X73/0X8011:46
philinuxjagadish:  so what are the symptoms now11:46
jagadishphilinux, then i used the onboard card and it work'd11:46
jagadishbut the problem was when i was using the onboard card it quite didn't get to the instalation screen it gave me a error and said its staring up the gui so that i can try again...11:47
jagadishphilinux, and it did and i install'd it from there...11:47
philinuxjagadish:  so what are the actual symptoms now11:49
jagadishphilinux, well everything is working fine except i cant use the effects .... and my graphic card11:49
philinuxah right11:49
jagadishyeh11:49
jagadishhehe11:49
philinuxtry this sudo  apt-get purge nvidia-current11:49
jagadishyeh 1 min11:50
jagadish Package nvidia-current is not installed, so not removed11:51
jagadishi put a star in the end and it uninstalled something11:52
jagadishnvidia-current-modaliases11:52
philinuxI looked in here  /usr/share/doc/nvidia-current/README.txt.gz and the 6200 card is listed but not 6200A11:53
philinuxyou need nvidia-current-modaliases that installed11:54
jagadishso what do i do now...???11:55
philinuxWell I would install that one  and then install nvidia-current then enable you card in the bios and reboot to see if all is well11:56
philinuxreinstall nvidia-current-modaliases11:56
jagadishbut when that was installed... as soon as i try'd to switch to the agp it wa giving me a error...11:57
jagadishhow do i check my instalation disk for erors11:57
jagadish??11:58
philinuxWell install nvidia current first then enable the card in the bios.11:58
meadhikariplease help me11:58
meadhikariI am having a low graphics problem11:58
philinuxLivecd - as soon as graphic appears press any key. You have to be quick. Then select check cd for defects. Is this 10.0411:58
meadhikarimy computer boots but no signal is sent to the monitor11:59
philinuxmeadhikari: you could have put all that on one line11:59
meadhikaria few days ago i was reciving error saying  Ubuntu is running in low-graphics Your screen, graphics card and input device setting could not be detected correctly. You will need to configure these yourself.-around a week ago Now when my machine boots monitor does not show anything its not on also but my fan makes sound12:00
meadhikariphilinux sorry for that12:00
meadhikariits my first time12:00
philinuxok12:00
meadhikarii am really worried12:00
iceboxx_12system>admin>hardware right12:01
meadhikarii hav heared that u people are very kind in helping other please help me12:01
philinuxmeadhikari: 1. try the livecd and see if that boots ok. If not you'll have to try the machine with another monitor12:01
BekmandHey12:20
BekmandI'm trying to change my Framebuffer size. but i dont seem to have a file with anything in it at /boot/grub/menu.lst Some that can help me out?12:21
duanedesignhello Bekmand12:31
BekmandHey12:32
BekmandThink i've found out what my problem was. had to change the /etc/default/grub file, and then update my grub. hope it works now12:33
philinuxBekmand: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=119527512:35
philinuxAnd https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub212:35
Bekmandphil: Thanks, i'll look through it :)12:36
duanedesignBekmand: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1292409    here is a thread on Grub and framebuffer res12:37
duanedesigntalks about some things people have tried12:37
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dairyman87hey guys ive got a problem regarding a rhythmbox plugin called duplicate source. what it does is remove duplicate song entries from the library.13:12
dairyman87http://newyork.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1078839&page=413:12
dairyman87?13:12
dairyman87can anyone help ?13:12
dairyman87ive followed the instructions on that thread. created a rhythmbox folder, and then a plugins folder. i extracted the duplicates source into that. when i open rhythmbox, and try to enable the duplicate plugin, rhythmbox crashes all the time! anyone have an idea of whats wrong?13:14
dairyman87help anyone?13:20
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duanedesigndairyman87: can you try opening rhythmbox from the Terminal14:22
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duanedesigndairyman87: you might get a usefull error message printed out to the tERMINAL14:23
duanedesignoops cap fail14:23
dairyman87<dairyman87> hey guys ive got a problem regarding a rhythmbox plugin called duplicate source. what it does is remove duplicate song entries from the library.14:33
dairyman87<dairyman87> http://newyork.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1078839&page=414:33
dairyman87<dairyman87> ?14:33
dairyman87<dairyman87> can anyone help ?14:33
hobgoblinI looked at that one - possibly you were here a short while ago14:34
dairyman87yeah i was!14:34
hobgoblinnot nice plugin in my opinion14:35
hobgoblindairyman87: so what's up then?14:35
dairyman87well, i followed the instructions, and the duplicates source appears in the rhythmbox plugins folder14:35
dairyman87and when i try to enable it rhythmbox just crashes!14:36
dairyman87why do you say its not a nice plugin?14:36
hobgoblinit deletes stuff14:36
dairyman87oh, you mean it deletes the songs from the hard drive14:37
dairyman87or just from the library?14:37
hobgoblinanyway - run rhythmbox from the cli - then try enabling the plugin - if it crashes see what the terminal says14:37
hobgoblinfrom the drive14:37
dairyman87oh thats bad!14:37
hobgoblinyea - I removed it ;)14:38
dairyman87lol maybe i shouldnt follow this up then!14:38
dairyman87i dont want those extra songs to be deleted14:38
dairyman87i just want the duplicates out of the library14:38
dairyman87is there an alternative to this? maybe another music player that can remove duplicates14:38
hobgoblindairyman87: where are the songs?14:38
dairyman87?14:38
dairyman87they're on my external hard drive14:39
hobgoblinall in the same folder?14:39
dairyman87no. some of them are in different folders14:39
hobgoblinor is there some sort of logic to the way it's set up - the folders that is14:39
dairyman87well the songs are not so well organized. its just all over my hard drive, in different folders14:40
dairyman87but if its deleting the songs from the drive then this is a bad idea for me14:40
hobgoblinso the duplicates are not in one specific place then14:40
dairyman87no they're not14:40
hobgoblinmmmm14:41
dairyman87i think thats the problem14:41
hobgoblinand are there a lot of duplicates?14:41
dairyman87yeah! a LOT14:41
dairyman87i have about 50 gb of music in that library. out of that i think at least 10gb to 20gb is duplicates14:41
hobgoblinwell I would not use the plugin then - I shouted a lot when I found a couple of hundred in the trash14:42
dairyman87haha yeah i think im going to avoid it now14:42
dairyman87honestly i wouldnt care much14:42
dairyman87but the thing is, i want to transfer music to my phone14:42
hobgoblinmmm - what you could do is run the plugin - then cut the duplicates from the trash and then move them to a new folder you make on the external14:43
dairyman87and with duplicates around, its going to be a pain to manually remove duplicates before transfering them14:43
dairyman87i suppose i could do that. its not a bad idea14:43
dairyman87but the major problem now is everytime i try to enable the plugin, rhythmbox crashes14:44
hobgoblinbut I would just put up with the duplicates - and of course I am almost 50 so I use my phone to talk to people and would not even contemplate putting music on a phone :D14:44
dairyman87haha, its an iphone, and its the only portable music player i have!!14:44
hobgoblinanother one for the iHype then lol14:45
dairyman87but otherwise i get your point14:45
hobgoblin:)14:45
dairyman87haha i got it a while ago14:45
hobgoblink - well have you tried any of the other media players14:45
dairyman87no not really14:45
hobgoblindo you dual boot?14:45
dairyman87not currently14:46
hobgoblink14:46
dairyman87i heard media monkey is really good with this duplicates issue,14:46
dairyman87but i think its not compatible with ubuntu right?14:47
hobgoblinnever heard of it14:48
dairyman87i see14:49
hobgoblindairyman87: maybe try songbird and the exorcist addon14:50
dairyman87is this addon for rhythmbox. or a separate music program?14:51
hobgoblinthere's probably a way you could make a script to find duplicates on the drive and then  move them to a new folder - but I am not the person for that voodoo stuff14:51
hobgoblinsongbird is a different app14:52
dairyman87oh okay14:52
dairyman87haha how do i make a script14:52
dairyman87dont i need programmer knowledge for that?14:52
hobgoblinI'd not recommend it normally - but it might do what you want and then you can revert to a more sensible media player14:52
dairyman87lol hmmm... i have no idea how to make a script!14:53
hobgoblinyea - you would, no good asking me - and I was just thinking aloud - might not even be possible14:53
dairyman87its okay thanks for the ideas14:53
hobgoblinwell I would think there are people in here who might be able to help14:53
dairyman87okay thats good14:53
dairyman87are you not a programmer?14:53
hobgoblinanyway - I have to go off for a while - just got in from work14:53
hobgoblinnope  - it';s all voodoo :)14:54
dairyman87oh thats fine. thanks for the help by the way! really appreciate it!14:54
dairyman87haha cool!14:54
hobgoblinwelcome of course :)14:54
hobgoblindairyman87: I will have a dig about and look at some music players and duplicates15:01
dairyman87thanks hobgoblin15:03
hobgoblinbut it could well be a case of identifying them and moving them manually15:06
duanedesigndairyman87: i noticed on that forum thread the plug in errors if a song doesnt have a tag, at least that is suggested15:06
hobgoblinduanedesign: do you think that a script of some sort would be at least worth thinking about?15:07
duanedesignyeah that shouldnt be too hard15:07
duanedesignhave you ever heard of fdupe hobgoblin15:07
dairyman87yeah i thinkits possible that a lot of my songs are not tagged15:07
dairyman87is that ide3 tag or somethiing like that?15:08
hobgoblinduanedesign: I was just looking at it15:08
hobgoblinseems to be another nuke the dupe thing though15:08
duanedesignhmm15:09
hobgoblindairyman87: actually the plugin ahs two options = delete or remove from library - so go back to trying to run the thing from a terminal and see what the output shows15:10
hobgoblinback in a bit15:12
duanedesign  find -name '*.mp3'|xargs md5sum|sort|uniq -d15:12
duanedesignis kinda slow and just produces the name list15:12
dairyman87can anyone direct me on how to run the plugin from terminal?15:13
hobgoblinduanedesign: the plugin will be safe I have found - but you need to be careful - I will explain when I return = school run now ...15:13
hobgoblindairyman87: no - run rhythmbox from the terminal15:13
duanedesigno/15:13
hobgoblinthen enable the plugin - see what happens - but see my comment ^^15:13
duanedesignthats me waving bye :P15:13
duanedesignyeah that find solution i posted sucks, lol15:14
dairyman87okay let me try doing this from terminal15:15
hobgoblindairyman87: when you get the plugin working it appears that it is set to delete by default - so - make sure the Trash is empty to start with - then start the plugin - change it to remove from the library - by that time it will have removed some stuff - you can select it all and then restore from the trash15:36
hobgoblinthat is what I did - I am now removing the plugin again :)15:37
dairyman87could  you giveme the command to run rhythmbox and the plugin from terminal?15:38
hobgoblinrhythmbox15:38
hobgoblinto run the plugin go to Edit plugins - find the duplicate source one and click the box next to it - there is also an option to configure the plugin - you'll need that15:39
dairyman87i just tried to run it. and like before, rhythmbox crashed15:40
hobgoblinand what did the terminal show? copy and paste it to paste.ubuntu.com and put a name in the box - hit paste and put the url here15:43
hobgoblinhttp://i.imgur.com/Lz1g4.png is the dup source config window once you get it going15:43
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stlsaintquite...17:24
duanedesigndairyman87: did you get the plugin figured out?17:55
dairyman87http://paste.ubuntu.com/462610/18:10
dairyman87this is the terminal readout when i run rhythmbox from terminal18:11
dairyman87but i dont know how to enable the duplicate plugin in rhythmbox from terminal18:11
duanedesignas long as its enabled in rhythmbox18:11
duanedesignit will be enabled when you run 'rhythmbox' from the terminal18:12
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dairyman87see thats the problem. i cant enable the plugin in rhythmbox in the first place. everytime i try to do that from the plugins window, i.e when i click in the box, rhythmbox just crashes18:12
duanedesigndairyman87: I got a script put together that detects duplicates and moves the duplicates to a folder you specify18:13
dairyman87wow thats fantastic! how do i use the script18:13
dairyman87can you give me a step by step?18:13
duanedesigndairyman87: open a terminal and run the command:18:15
duanedesignwget http://people.ubuntu.com/~duanedesign/copyCopy.py18:15
dairyman87okay18:16
dairyman87done18:16
duanedesignto run it the command would be:  python copyCopy.py  /source/directory  /destination/directory18:17
duanedesignso for instance18:17
duanedesignpython copyCopy.py /home/duanedesign/documentation/ /home/duanedesign/dupe/18:17
duanedesigni am looking in the documentation folder and copying the files to the dupe folder18:18
dairyman87okay so in each case i have to specify the source folder (where your copycopy file is) in my pc and choose where i want to copy the files to18:19
duanedesignthe source folder is the folder you want to check for duplicates18:19
dairyman87okay i see18:20
duanedesignpython copyCopy.py /home/duanedesign/music/ /home/duanedesign/musicDuplicates/18:20
dairyman87my music is in several folders though. i mean a lot of folders18:20
dairyman87its on my hard drive18:20
dairyman87external18:20
dairyman87and when i ran rhythmbox i imported all the music18:21
dairyman87from the external18:21
dairyman87that is, i i chose import folder as : toshiba external hard drive18:21
dairyman87and it just added all the music it found in the drive to the rhythmbox library18:21
duanedesigndairyman87: does this external show up under the Places menu in the top panel18:22
dairyman87yes it does18:22
duanedesignok  open it up18:22
duanedesignit should have an address in the Location bar18:23
duanedesignMy windows partition is  '/media/286CC2A6397A0F2A/'18:24
dairyman87yeah this is it /media/TOSHIBA EXT18:24
duanedesignlet me see if it handles spaces in directory names18:25
dairyman87alright18:25
duanedesignlooks like it does18:26
duanedesignyou might test it on a folder on your hard drive and make sure its the result you want. But the syntax would be:18:27
duanedesignpython copyCopy.py /media/286CC2A6397A0F2A/  /home/dairyman/dupes/18:27
duanedesigni made up the second one of course18:27
dairyman87yeah okay.18:28
duanedesignunless that is a good guess and your home folder is named dairyman18:28
duanedesignoops i put mine in there18:28
dairyman87haha no my home folder is not dairyman18:28
dairyman87but it was a good try18:28
duanedesignpython copyCopy.py  /media/TOSHIBA\ EXT/  /home/dairyman/dupes/18:29
duanedesignyou have to put forward slash in front of spaces in directory paths18:29
duanedesignpython copyCopy.py  /media/TOSHIBA\ EXT/classical/  /home/dairyman/dupes/18:29
duanedesignthat would be if you wanted to search aspecific folder on your ext HD18:29
dairyman87so wait. what this does is: remove the duplicates it finds in those specific folders and copy them to another folder which i enter in the second command?18:30
duanedesignyes18:30
duanedesigndairyman87: is  that what you wanted?18:30
dairyman87well its close to what i wanted. but all i actually wanted to do was to remove the duplicate entries of the songs in the rhythmbox library. thats all. i didnt mind that i had duplicate songs in my hard drive. so removing them and copying them to another folder was not exactly what i had in mind. but i can see how it would work18:33
duanedesigndairyman87: yeah it is weird sometimes how rhythmox lists files18:34
dairyman87yeah. it would have been convenient if it just gave me an option to remove duplicate song entries18:35
dairyman87itunes sort of did that18:35
dairyman87but even with that, i had to manually remove each duplicate song from the playlist, and THEN transfer it to my phone18:35
duanedesigndairyman87: there might be a solution let me look18:36
dairyman87but this was close, thanks a lot for that. but i dont know if i want to remove those files from the hard drive.18:36
dairyman87to tell you the truth, i would have gone ahead and manually deleted those duplicates from the playlist18:37
duanedesignwell keep the script you might find a use for it someday :)18:37
dairyman87but the delete button doesnt work in rhythm box! ill have to painfully select each song while holding ctrl, and then left click and then press remove18:38
dairyman87thanks for the script18:38
dairyman87i was looking for a quick fix :P18:38
hobgoblindairyman87: the quick fix was to have a logical media library once upon a time in the dim and distant past :)18:41
dairyman87haha youre right18:42
dairyman87maybe ill sit down and spend couple of hours and organize my ext drive18:42
dairyman87you just get used to the way it is. you know where every file is. whenever you need it, you can just navigate and go there18:43
hobgoblintell me about it - took me a day to half sort mine18:45
duanedesigndairyman87: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=92978318:45
duanedesignit looks like the rhythmdb.xml file has moved. it is now at:  /home/duanedesign/.local/share/rhythmbox/rhythmdb.xml18:47
duanedesignlunch time, brb.18:48
dairyman87ok18:49
Robin_____Hello, could someone help me, I accidently dd'd my windows 7 boot sector18:49
philinuxRobin_____: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=119527518:50
Robin_____vague much?18:51
philinuxRobin_____: section 16 ;)18:51
Robin_____Will this work even though my sdb1 (which i sudo dd'd) is showing as an "unknown filesystem type"18:53
philinuxShould do just be careful18:54
Mjiigcan anyone provide me with the exact command i need to use with nmap that will tell me the status of every port on computer on the same wifi address, if i know the local ip. This is so i can check my network security.18:54
Robin_____philinux: Ha thanks I will try to be. gonna give it ago, i may be back soon!18:54
Mjiiganyone?19:04
stlsaintMjiig: issue?19:18
Mjiigno i'm simply paranoid about security19:19
stlsaintMjiig: how so?19:22
Mjiigi would like to know if I have accidentally opened any ports from my default ubuntu install, web services that offer this however only check the ports from some one scanning my ports over the net, but since my wifi is only wep encrypted it would be easy for someone to get on my wifi and i would like to know if they could access any open ports19:25
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steelstevehello hello, it's me steelsteve, with yet another exciting problem for you guys21:02
steelstevebasically, this time my wired doesn't work anymore and lspci cannot even see the card, but wireless is not there and strangely I can connect still.21:02
steelsteveI'm using a Toshiba satellite A215 with ubuntu 10.04 currently installed21:02
steelsteveagain, lspci cannot see my wireless or ethernet connections21:02
steelsteve*cards21:02
steelstevehum pedro3005, there seems to be no one around21:05
pedro3005steelsteve, well, leave it be, wait a few minutes21:06
steelsteveit's been a few minutes21:06
steelsteveand my computer is running out of things to catch up on here21:06
steelsteveit needs re-boot21:06
steelstevegeeze, it should be proper edict to reply with 'thinking about it' when there's nothing going on...21:09
steelstevehello hello, it's me steelsteve, with yet another exciting problem for you guys21:36
steelstevebasically, this time my wired doesn't work anymore and lspci cannot even see the card, but wireless is not there and strangely I can connect still.21:36
steelsteveI'm using a Toshiba satellite A215 with ubuntu 10.04 currently installed21:36
steelsteveagain, lspci cannot see my wireless or ethernet cards21:36
ubuntulivehave a cmd line ?21:40
ubuntulivefloppy21:40
ubuntulivepracticing on a floppy21:40
steelsteve?21:41
ubuntulivehave partitioned in half21:41
ubuntuliveone for linux fs and one for ntfs21:41
steelsteveplease state the nature of your linux emergency21:41
steelstevesimply because no one can understand what you just said21:41
ubuntulivei'm trying to save a pdf file to both the partitions21:42
steelsteveon a floppy21:42
ubuntuliveyes21:42
steelstevecan they fit on both?21:42
ubuntulivei have partitioned it in half21:42
ubuntuliveyes21:42
steelstevehum21:42
ubuntulivejust a small file21:42
steelsteveare both mounted?21:42
ubuntuliveah ah21:42
steelstevelol21:43
ubuntulivethat's my question21:43
steelstevehum21:43
ubuntulivethe floppy is mounted21:43
steelsteveboth?21:43
steelsteveif it's partitioned then both need to be mounted21:43
ubuntulivebut how to mount both partition seperately21:43
steelsteveon a floppy21:43
pedro3005I suppose it would be /directory/to/floppy/partition1  something like that21:44
steelstevesd_1 and sd_2 or something21:44
steelstevebut sd is harddrives21:44
steelstevehumm21:44
pedro3005run 'mount' to see everything that's mounted21:44
ubuntulivewhen i type "mount /dev/fd0p1"21:44
pedro3005that will give you the path to the floppy21:44
steelstevep1 = partition 1 I assume21:45
ubuntulivei'm using a livecd21:45
steelstevehum21:45
ubuntuliveyes21:45
pedro3005doesn't matter21:45
pedro3005run "mount" on a terminal21:45
steelsteveoh well, I'll be back later I hope21:45
ubuntulivei can save the file to linux partition21:45
ubuntulivebut how to save to ntfs21:45
pedro3005it doesn't see the ntfs partition?21:46
ubuntulivenot21:46
ubuntuliveno21:46
ubuntulivebut when i type21:46
ubuntulivefdisk /dev/fd021:47
ubuntulivei see both the partition21:47
ubuntulivethat's how i created the partition anyway21:47
pedro3005can you paste the output of fdisk /dev/fd0?21:47
pedro3005!paste | ubuntulive21:48
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ubuntuliveeven when i launch gparted i don't see the floppy21:48
ubuntulivelet me try21:48
ubuntulive    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System21:49
ubuntulive/dev/fd0p1               1          40         711   83  Linux21:49
ubuntulive/dev/fd0p2              41          80         720   86  NTFS volume set21:49
pedro3005so what happens when you try to mount /dev/fd0p2 ?21:50
ubuntulive    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System21:50
ubuntulive/dev/fd0p1               1          40         711   83  Linux21:50
ubuntulive/dev/fd0p2              41          80         720   86  NTFS volume set21:50
ubuntulive    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System21:50
ubuntulive/dev/fd0p1               1          40         711   83  Linux21:50
ubuntulive/dev/fd0p2              41          80         720   86  NTFS volume set21:51
ubuntuliveopps21:51
ubuntuliveoop21:51
ubuntuliveoops21:51
ubuntulivewait21:51
ubuntuliveubuntu@ubuntu:/$ mount /dev/fd0p221:51
ubuntulivemount: can't find /dev/fd0p2 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab21:51
pedro3005hmm21:53
pedro3005try adding it to fstab21:53
ubuntuliveubuntu@ubuntu:/$ ls -l /media/disk21:53
ubuntulivetotal 9521:53
ubuntulive-rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 95793 2010-07-12 15:51 linuxcmdquickref.pdf21:53
pedro3005<cheeSe> hey coolkehon21:53
pedro3005<coolkehon> hi pedro300521:53
pedro3005wait21:53
pedro3005wrong21:53
pedro3005https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab21:53
ubuntuliveyou can see that copying it to linux partition is not a prob21:53
ubuntulivesince i am on a linux system21:54
pedro3005yeah21:54
MelodicdaydreamsNeed help with 10.04 update - undetermined boot failure - novice21:54
ubuntuliveany idea of a command to copy from one partion to another?21:55
pedro3005ubuntulive, cp21:55
pedro3005Melodicdaydreams, it just says that when you try to boot?21:55
ubuntulivecp *.pdf /dev/fd0p1 /dev/fd0p2 ?21:56
Melodicdaydreamsno, my words.  just boots to blank screen21:56
pedro3005Melodicdaydreams, try pressing CTRL ALT F121:57
ubuntulivethat's not going to work since i'm not mentioning any directories21:57
pedro3005you can't copy something to fd0p2 without mounting it21:58
Melodicdaydreamspedro-no luck21:58
pedro3005Melodicdaydreams, nothing happens at all?21:59
Melodicdaydreamsnothing21:59
pedro3005ok21:59
pedro3005Melodicdaydreams, and this started after an update?21:59
ubuntuliveany command line forums?21:59
Melodicdaydreamsyes, upgraded from 9.10 to 10.0421:59
ubuntulivechannels?22:00
Melodicdaydreamsno command line.  I can get command line if I halt boot process though22:00
seidosubuntulive, you can try #bash22:01
seidosubuntulive, but be aware it is *very* advanced, so tread softly22:02
Melodicdaydreamspedro - after download and install - selected restart which brought me to blank screen22:02
pedro3005Melodicdaydreams, maybe this is useful http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2010/05/06/ubuntu-10-04-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup-workaround/22:03
MelodicdaydreamsI'll take a look, thanks :)22:04
jagadishhi22:07
pedro3005hi jagadish22:07
Melodicdaydreamspedro- I am trying to replace 'quiet' in the GRUB menu.  I can "d" delete it and I can "o" add a new line.  I cannot type in the created line.  Is there a way to add the instruction I need for the video card?22:09
jagadishi had a problem while installing ubuntu10.04 .. !!!22:09
ubuntulivestate your problem22:10
ubuntuliveand your hardware details22:10
pedro3005Melodicdaydreams, huh, that's weird22:10
pedro3005you tried pressing tab or something?22:10
Melodicdaydreamsyes, nothing :(22:11
pedro3005damn, you got me there22:12
pedro3005Melodicdaydreams, maybe try hitting up the guys in http://ubuntuforums.org/ ?22:13
Melodicdaydreamsokay, thanks22:13
jagadishpedro3005, my md5sum is : d044a2a0c8103fc3e5b7e18b0f7de1c822:14
pedro3005jagadish, what exactly is the problem?22:14
jagadishpedro3005, its a really long story.... hehe here i go22:15
jagadishpedro3005, well i started installing ubuntu10.04 i have a nvidia 6200A agp card22:16
jagadishpedro3005, so when i try installing with my primary display adapter as nvidia the installer doesn't start and gives a 0X73/0X80 error22:17
jagadishpedro3005, u got the issue...??22:18
pedro3005yeah22:18
pedro3005researching22:18
pedro3005one moment22:18
pedro3005jagadish, looks like it's a tough bug :(22:20
pedro3005you can try what's in here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=147360222:20
pedro3005but the OP doesn't look like he got it solved22:20
jagadishpedro3005, yeh looks like a video card issue .. its the same with me .. when i use my onboard diaplay it does it fine22:24
jagadishpedro3005, the thing is i cant use effects.... :(22:25
iceboxx_12sorry pedro3005 , .....22:26
iceboxx_12did i miss something22:27
pedro3005hello iceboxx_1222:27
pedro3005no, you did not22:27
iceboxx_12pedro3005, its my internet ... it went down...22:28
=== iceboxx_12 is now known as jagadish_123
jagadish_123pedro3005, looks like i got a tough bug :(22:29
=== jagadish_123 is now known as jagadish
jagadishpedro3005, are u there..??22:30
pedro3005jagadish, unfortunately, I do not know the answer22:31
pedro3005you may try asking in the forums22:31
jagadishpedro3005, is there a way i can use effects using my onboard card Intel82845G22:32
jagadishpedro3005, thanks for the help .. .22:34
MelodicdaydreamsI'm back - - Trying to update the 4th line of the GRUB menu - have found a way to update the line, but cannot get change to save through a reboot22:48
MelodicdaydreamsProblem: Blank screen on 10.04 update workaround - trying to change 'quiet' on GRUB menu (4 line menu)  when I hit 'e' to edit the 4th line I can change 'quiet' and when I hit enter the change appears in the grub menu box.  Have not had a successful boot yet and when I re-enter the menu the change made is not there22:53
MelodicdaydreamsIs anyone available to help?22:58
MelodicdaydreamsHello?23:02
MelodicdaydreamsIs anyone available to help?23:08
MelodicdaydreamsIs anyone available to help?23:38
holsteinhey Melodicdaydreams23:41
* holstein reading23:41
holsteinyou might want to read23:42
holstein!grub223:42
ubot2GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since Ubuntu 9.10.  For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub223:42
holsteinMelodicdaydreams: you cant get to the grub screen?23:43
holsteincan you boot in using your older kernel?23:43
MelodicdaydreamsYou'll have to use simpler lingo-novice user23:43
MelodicdaydreamsI am trying the work around but i can't get it to work23:44
holsteinOKI23:44
holsteinOK*23:44
holsteinwhat is the problem?23:44
holsteinyou boot, and you get a blank screen?23:44
Melodicdaydreamsblank screen after update from 9.10 to 10.0423:45
holsteinOH23:45
holsteinthats a different level of pain then ;)23:45
holsteindid you try the live CD first?23:45
MelodicdaydreamsWas trying to use the workaround found here: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2010/05/06/ubuntu-10-04-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup-workaround/comment-page-1/#comment-1136323:45
MelodicdaydreamsYes--pain :)23:46
holsteinwhat is your graphics card?23:46
holsteinif it were my box23:46
holsteini would get a live CD23:46
holsteinand see if it boots23:46
holsteinand try safe graphics mode if not23:46
MelodicdaydreamsNot sure - it's not my system.  It's a Panasonic pentium toughbook23:47
holsteinthen you'll know if its a graphics card issue23:47
holsteinand you can troubleshoot from there23:47
Melodicdaydreamsi can boot into recovery mode and use the admin's log in but I'm not a linux user23:47
MelodicdaydreamsThere weren't any issues during download and install23:48
holsteinyou could go into the recovery console23:48
holsteinand run lspic23:48
holsteinOOPS23:48
holsteinlspci23:48
holsteinand see what grahpics card you have23:48
holsteinand google for how to make it work23:49
Melodicdaydreamsis that exactly what I need to type?23:49
holsteinyeah23:49
holsteinjust lspci23:49
MelodicdaydreamsOkay I'll give it a shot THX23:49
holsteinthat will list all your devices23:49
holsteinin theory23:49
Melodicdaydreamslol23:49
holsteinand you should be able to tell what is what23:49
holsteinand find the graphics card there23:49
holstein01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. CN896/VN896/P4M900 [Chrome 9 HC] (rev 01)23:50
holsteinthats what i have23:50
MelodicdaydreamsI have the list on the screen23:51
holsteinlook for VGA23:51
MelodicdaydreamsIntel Corp device23:51
holsteinhmmm23:52
holsteinthose are usually well supported23:52
MelodicdaydreamsYeah, great times, huh?23:52
holsteinhehe23:52
holsteinyeah, i ALWAYS run a live CD first23:52
holsteinjust so i know what kind of pain in the ass it might be23:52
MelodicdaydreamsDid you look at the page I linked?  Could you help me make sense of it.  Many seem to have used the workaround successfully?23:53
holsteinMelodicdaydreams: what intel device?23:53
Melodicdaydreams821952/855gm23:53
Melodicdaydreams82852/855gm****23:54
holsteinMelodicdaydreams: lets try23:55
holsteinadding i915.modeset=123:55
holsteinim looking at23:56
holsteinhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Bugs/Lucidi8xxFreezes23:56
Melodicdaydreamsok  I've23:56
holsteinSO23:56
Melodicdaydreamstried to enter that into the grub menu but it doesnt stay23:56
holsteinlet try to get in to grub23:56
holsteinyeah23:56
Melodicdaydreamsok, lemme reboot:)23:57
holsteinreboot23:57
holsteinand press shift23:57
holsteinand try and get the grub menu up23:57
holsteinand let me know when your there23:57
Melodicdaydreamsshift doesnt stop the boot, but esc does, lemme get there again23:58
holsteinthats cool23:58
holsteinshould be at least23:58
Melodicdaydreamsokay i can select 10.04 lts, kernel......23:59
holsteinOK23:59
holsteinhang on23:59
holsteinwhat happens when you press e ?23:59
Melodicdaydreamshit e to edit and i'm looking at menu with uuid, kernel, inird, and quiet23:59
holsteincool23:59

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