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nigelbhola folks01:43
doctormonigelb, pleia2, paultag: http://imagebin.ca/view/P8odXf99.html Thoughts on this title card.03:09
nigelbdoctormo: sweet!03:12
nigelbIm off to work, later everyone :)03:14
pleia2doctormo: that's great :)05:15
nigelbpleia2: geeknic was awesome?05:16
pleia2nigelb: it was short, but fun :)05:17
nigelbpleia2: I'm procrastinating, can you write a thank you note to instructors?05:17
nigelbpleia2: if you're tired, I can do it ;)05:21
pleia2nigelb: I don't have time tonight, but I could in the morning if you don't have a chance06:28
nigelbpleia2: I'll do it in a few hours when I can take a break from work06:34
pleia2k :)06:34
dpmgood morning everyone!07:25
jussimr AlanBell. please PM me when you wake up.07:27
nigelbmorning dpm !07:27
nigelbjussi: did you just kill a core? o.O07:28
jussinigelb: nah, just the connection on it07:28
jussifor me to freenode07:28
nigelbjussi: ah07:28
jussithere are still others on that core07:28
nigelbheh07:28
jussiits just the standard quit message07:29
dpmhey nigelb, morning :)07:29
nigelbdpm: watched the match last night?07:30
* jussi grumbles at stupid diving spaniards07:30
* nigelb had warned roomates - wake me and you're getting kicked07:31
jussioooh!07:31
* jussi notes its mr nigelb's birthday! happy birthday nigelb!07:32
dpmnigelb, I actually didn't. We went for dinner somewhere remote and quiet without big screens and no football :)07:32
nigelbjussi: thank you!07:40
nigelbdpm: I thought so ;)07:40
AlanBellhi jussi07:53
dholbachgood morning07:59
dholbachdpm: congratulations! :)07:59
dholbachdpm: how was your holidays?07:59
dpmdholbach, hey, morning. holidays where awesome :)08:02
dholbachexcellent - hope you had some time to relax :)08:02
dpmabsolutely - one week withou internet or mobile does wonders :)08:05
dholbachhaha08:05
dholbachnice08:05
nigelbmorning dholbach :)08:05
nigelbyour turn today :D08:06
dholbachdpm: soon loco teams will be able to set their languages in the loco directory - if you have any crazy thoughts what we can do with that, let me know (the plan was to allow online events in the future, where teams with the same language could collaborate)08:06
dholbachnigelb: later - I need to sort out a few things, today's first day of UDW08:06
dpmdholbach, ah, right. I'll think about it08:09
nigelbdholbach: oh oh, I forgot I'm doing a session for UDS08:09
nigelbUDW rather08:09
nigelbdholbach: also uud was rocking on saturday08:09
dpmyeah, I need to prepare my talk for tomorrow as well08:09
nigelblots of people attended ubuntu user days :)08:10
dholbachnigelb: how many? do you know?08:12
dholbachnigelb: done08:16
dholbachhola ara08:16
nigelbdholbach: so far 18 have taken the survey08:16
dholbachara:  congratulations :)08:16
nigelbhola ara08:16
aramorning dholbach08:16
dholbachnigelb: http://daniel.holba.ch/blog/?p=72608:16
* nigelb hugs dholbach 08:16
* dholbach hugs nigelb back08:16
jussioh dear09:13
jussisome things just crack me up!09:14
jussihttp://paste.ubuntu.com/462415/09:14
popey\o/ listadmin09:18
vishhmm , can we claim it , use it for increasing Ubuntu infra :D09:19
dholbachnigelb:09:34
dholbach _   _    _    ____  ______   __  ____ ___ ____ _____ _   _ ____    _ __   ___09:34
dholbach| | | |  / \  |  _ \|  _ \ \ / / | __ )_ _|  _ \_   _| | | |  _ \  / \\ \ / / |09:34
dholbach| |_| | / _ \ | |_) | |_) \ V /  |  _ \| || |_) || | | |_| | | | |/ _ \\ V /| |09:34
dholbach|  _  |/ ___ \|  __/|  __/ | |   | |_) | ||  _ < | | |  _  | |_| / ___ \| | |_|09:34
dholbach|_| |_/_/   \_\_|   |_|    |_|   |____/___|_| \_\|_| |_| |_|____/_/   \_\_| (_)09:34
dholbach                                                                               09:34
* dholbach hugs nigelb09:34
ddecatorwow09:34
ddecatordholbach: that's pro09:35
dholbach:-)09:35
* dholbach hugs ddecator too09:35
ddecatorhaha09:35
* ddecator hugs dholbach back09:35
dholbachhola randa_09:40
randa_hola dholbach09:41
doctormonigelb: flooding?09:42
nigelbdholbach: thanks!!09:45
nigelbdoctormo: almost09:45
* nigelb hugs dholbach back!09:46
qensenigelb: Congratulations!09:47
nigelbqense: :) thanks!09:48
dholbachdpm: and the LD is probably the first customer for adiroiban's work :)09:49
dholbachwe use  launchpad.languages.getAllLanguages() !   :)09:50
dholbachso probably very modest customers ;-)09:50
nigelbqense: something wrong with your blog?09:51
qensenigelb: You mean the blog posts that keep appearing on Planet Ubuntu? That's because I first stickied them and then unstickied them.09:52
qensethat is apparently enough for PlanetPlanet to thinkt hey're new.09:52
nigelbqense: oh, ok09:52
qenseapologises for the inconvenience09:53
nigelbnah, planet is wierd most of the time09:56
nigelbit comes with the territory09:57
nigelbto deal with so many platforms at the same time09:57
ddecatornigelb: happy birthday mate09:59
dpmdholbach, awesome, I'll let Adi know10:00
qenseWait! Isn't today the start of some sort of UbuntuXWeek?10:01
ddecatordeveloper10:01
qenseI knew it!10:01
* dpm belatedly hugs nigelb - happy birthday!10:02
dholbachdpm: he knows :)10:02
dpmah, cool :)10:02
dholbachdpm: when you were gone and I didn't know if I should use /usr/share/xml/iso-codes/iso_639_3.xml or /usr/share/xml/iso-codes/iso_639.xml he told me to use the API10:02
dpmawesome10:03
doctormonigelb: Comapre last night's with this mornings attempt:http://imagebin.ca/view/0NmrU5g.html I wanted to do a background.10:09
dholbachkim0: thanks for reposting10:38
vishhmm , the planet feed seems down10:57
qensedoctormo: attempt: isn't a valid protocol11:02
qense:)11:02
AlanBelldo, or do not, there is no try11:04
czajkowskialoha11:53
nigelbdpm: belated hug back :)11:53
nigelbddecator: thanks :)11:53
nigelbdoctormo: love the open box!11:54
duanedesignnigelb: happy birthday to you...happy birthday to you...happy birthday dear nigel...happy birthday to you12:03
nigelbduanedesign: *hugs* thank you!12:06
duanedesign:)12:10
kim0nigelb: Happy Bday man :) Yaaaaayy12:16
nigelbkim0: thanks you!!12:18
=== Pendulum_ is now known as Pendulum
doctormoHappy Birthday nigelb13:19
akgranernigelb, Happy Birthday!13:42
nigelbdoctormo: thank you!14:00
nigelbakgraner: thanks!14:00
nigelbakgraner: Now how about that birtday gift :p (the interview)14:01
akgranernigelb, :-)  My editing skills are not so great so it's taking my a bit longer to edit the audio in audacity but I'll get it finished and get this figured out - it's easy to edit the beginning and end but a little harder for me to edit areas during the interview..;-/14:02
nigelbakgraner: haha14:06
nigelbok :)14:06
paultagGrrr, man, I'm so over doing this work14:33
paultagHappy birthday nigelb :)14:33
czajkowskipaultag: welcome to the real world :;p14:34
paultagczajkowski: :/14:34
paultagczajkowski: I spend my whole life programming and learning everything I can about computing theory, and here I am. Writing a website. I am really bad at writing, too.14:34
paultagczajkowski: not even HTML, just plain text.14:35
paultag:(14:39
nigelbpaultag: thanks man!14:39
doctormonigelb: Did you see my question above?14:40
paultaghey I need some help. This guy is really giving me frak on reddit. Where can I find Ubuntu docs on why we use sudo over root, my guess is he won't listen to anything less14:40
paultaghey doctormo14:40
popey!rootsudo14:41
ubot2sudo is a command to run command-line programs with  superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli ) . Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For  graphical applications see !gksu (Gnome, XFCE), or !kdesudo (KDE). If you're unable to execute commands with  sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo14:41
popeythere14:41
doctormopaultag: Do you have to answer him? http://xkcd.com/386/14:41
paultagthanks popey14:41
paultagdoctormo: this dude is just a tool14:41
popeyis it sad that I know which xkcd that is from the number?14:42
paultagYup.14:42
popeymind you it's linked on my wiki page :)14:42
paultagI need to stop redditing. I just end up in comment tiffs, and I hate it.14:43
paultagpopey: haha, so it is14:43
popeyi have never used reddit14:44
paultagpopey: don't. It used to be cool, but it's just swamped. It used to be really nice for talking about news, and most people were educated. Now it's just everyone who used to be at Digg or 4chan14:44
popeymuch like every other site14:45
paultagyeah, but it got bad. There was an article about the roman system for some kinda numarical math, and the one 4 years ago was broken down int he commants with details in code, math proofs etc14:45
paultagit got posted again this year, and it was just "lol count my womon that i do" "yer mom, lulz"14:46
paultagShame.14:46
doctormopaultag: Does reddit not have a stupid hammer?14:46
paultagWil Wheaton, and Randal(?) Monroe, the xkcd guy both spent time there14:46
paultagdoctormo: :/14:46
paultagdoctormo: P.S. your title card looks great14:52
doctormopaultag: The new one?14:52
paultagdoctormo: the one you ping'd me on14:52
doctormopaultag: http://imagebin.ca/view/0NmrU5g.html14:52
paultagthat's the one doctormo14:53
paultagdoctormo: when do you want to do some STARF'ing ?14:54
paultagdoctormo: we have a lot of work to do14:54
doctormopaultag: I've been waiting on you to be ready to focus on it :-D14:54
paultagdoctormo: aye, I've been swamped, sorry! I'm good to roll now that UUD is done, but I'm still backed up with my queue. We should meet up downtown again and get some chunks done14:55
doctormoI agree, wednesday?14:59
paultagdoctormo: nogo, I'm bowling with my grandmother :)15:00
doctormopaultag: I'm trying hard not to laugh and be touched at the same time, thusday?15:01
paultag:P15:02
paultagdoctormo: I'd be able to leave here at about 615:02
paultagI help at a local center for teaching dyslexyic kids from 3 --> 5 on Tu Th15:03
doctormopaultag: you do the calendar thing then!15:03
paultagFine, fine! Second :)15:03
paultagalso, in a pinch of irony -- dyslexic *15:05
doctormoI honestly think someone was playing silly buggers when they came up with that spelling.15:06
paultag:)15:06
doctormodislexia is fine, dyslexia is just dumb.15:06
doctormoUnless we like dyslexics in dystress.15:07
paultagdoctormo: sec, I'm just trying to figure out when I'm OK to take my car ( My sister asked to borrow it to head to New York )15:07
paultagdoctormo: I'll get back to you before high noon. If I have not, whine at me. Chances are I forgot15:07
* popey notes people don't generally 'come up with' spellings, they tend to evolve15:09
popeyexcept for M Webster who made stuff up to make spelling easier in the colonies :)15:09
paultagm-w ftw :)15:09
popeyLearn English, slacker! :)15:10
paultag:P15:10
paultagI was thinking of heading to the UK at some point soon. I think it would be fun, the last time I was there, I was about 10. I want to hit an English Pub, for sure15:11
paultagI'd stick out like a sore thumb, I think15:11
popeyless than you'd think15:12
doctormopopey: English does evolve, but spellings have gone through a number of clean-up stages where the crown or some other agent decided to amend lots of words. Respelling everything from 'kw' to 'qu' was a big one for instance.15:14
jcastrodholbach: nigelb: I am concerned about 2 slow weeks in a row!15:23
dholbachyes15:24
dholbachwe're generally not making much progress15:24
paultaghey doctormo poke15:24
doctormopaultag: Would you stop facebook poking me and just ping me ;-)15:25
dholbachwe could raise more awareness, for example on the forums15:25
paultaghaha15:25
dholbachhave another patch day15:25
doctormodholbach: Is the problem the number of people involved?15:25
dholbachbut I'm stretched too thin right now to lead this effort15:25
paultagdoctormo: I'm good tues or thurs, I can leave at 3 -- I have someone who can cover15:25
dholbachdoctormo: yes15:25
paultagdoctormo: so it's up to you, tom. or thurs :)15:25
doctormodholbach: You might need a leader then as a first task, otherwise you won't have the focus to follow it and organise and train all the people that might be interested in it.15:26
doctormopaultag: We'll go for tomorrow then and I'll drag a laptop with me, same place, Tealux?15:27
paultagdoctormo: sounds like a plan :)15:27
paultagOh wait doctormo15:27
paultagdoctormo: I walked past it on saturday, and it was closed15:28
paultagdoctormo: do you know if it's back open yet?15:28
dholbachdoctormo: nigelb is the fearless leader! :)15:28
doctormodholbach: I thought he was leading the User Days too?15:31
doctormopaultag: I emailed them just in case.15:31
paultagdoctormo: thanks, rockstar15:31
paultagdoctormo: do we have a plan b ?15:32
paultagdoctormo: as much as I hate them, Starbucks has free WiFi these days15:32
paultagdoctormo: and there is one close-ish to Tealuxe IIRC15:32
doctormopaultag: There are plenty of places in the area.15:32
paultagdoctormo: righto. Let's just meet there regardless15:33
paultagdoctormo: and walk if we need to :)15:33
=== jono is now known as Guest68844
Guest68844hey all15:51
popeyYO!15:52
Guest68844dholbach, something is weird with the events in Lernid16:00
dholbachGuest68844: what's the problem?16:00
Guest68844it has a bunch of 'Ubuntu Developer Week Session' events there16:00
Guest68844load it up and look at the list16:00
Guest68844kim0, gonna be a few mins late16:00
dholbachFFS!16:00
Guest68844dpm, welcome back :)16:01
kim0Guest68844: jono ?16:01
kim0u lost ur nic16:01
dpmhey Guest68844, thanks :)16:01
paultagGuest68844: mgiht want to /msg nickserv :)16:01
Guest68844damn16:01
kim0hehe16:01
Guest68844stupid freenode16:01
paultagstupid auto nick change ;)16:01
Guest68844brb16:01
jono_bloody thing16:02
kim0jono_: sure thing .. ping me when ready16:02
paultagjono_: looks like you are not idet'd16:02
dholbachjono_: I have no idea - they're all fine in the calendar16:02
jono_dholbach, can you check into this - people are getting confused16:02
dholbachjono_: I put them in like 4 times16:02
paultagjono_: you might loose this soon16:02
dholbachjono_: I still need to prepare my session16:02
dholbachjono_: I'll do my best and see what I can do though16:02
jono_dholbach, well can you ask someone else to look into it then16:02
dholbachjono_: we need to reschedule our call too16:03
jono_dholbach, sure16:03
dholbachit's weird it has some of the events in there twice16:03
dholbachjono_: does lernid just read one calendar?16:03
dholbachjono_: or does it read several calendars?16:03
Technovikingjono_: ping16:03
jono_dholbach, just one16:04
jcastrohas anyone not voted for offtopic questions on the stack exchange?16:04
jono_Technoviking, hey16:04
jcastrohttp://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/7716?tab=offtopic&phase=definition#tab-top16:04
jono_can't talk Technoviking I have a call next16:04
jcastroevan promises to fix pet installer bugs in exchange for votes (just kidding, he never closes bugs)16:04
Technovikingjono_: ok16:04
dholbachnhandler, akgraner, pleia2: any idea why lernid shows some of the UDW events as "Ubuntu Developer Week Session" and also as a regular session?16:04
jono_jcastro, can you help dholbach fix this Lernid issue16:05
jono_look into what could be going wrong16:05
jono_maybe nhandler can help too16:05
akgranerI dunno but I'll check the calendar and see16:05
jono_it seems we only have these problems for today16:06
Technovikingjono_: I wanted to see if the forums stats I sent you will work, I'm going on vacation later today so wanted to makes sure Matt had everything he needed before I go. Ping me later when you have the time.16:08
akgranerI just looked at the Calendar and the events are listed right..16:08
jono_Technoviking, they should be great16:08
jono_thanks16:08
jono_akgraner, dholbach, jcastro are you seeing the events I am referring to in the schedule?16:10
jono_I want to make sure this is reproduceable16:11
dholbachyes16:11
jono_k16:11
jono_ok16:11
jcastrook16:12
jcastroI see that bug16:12
jono_I am wondering if the fridge event on the calendar is also affecting it16:12
jcastroan "ubuntu developer week session" every hour in addition to the actual session16:12
jono_jcastro, yeah16:12
jono_but only for today16:13
akgranerjono_, that's what I am thinking - does it pull from the Fridge?16:13
jcastrojono_: correct16:13
akgranerI don't have them listed per hour on the Fridge though16:13
jono_ahhh no the fridge event is every day, this onl effects today16:13
dholbachjono_: did you set up the sessions for Ubuntu App Dev Week?16:13
jono_it must be a problem in the cal16:13
jono_dholbach, not yet16:13
dholbachsomebody did and they caused the problems the last time16:13
akgranerwe had the set up as Ubuntu Developer Week Session in the beginning16:13
akgranerbut they aren't that way now16:13
dholbachthey're not filled out yet, just "Ubuntu App Dev Week", but are recurring events which is what broke the calendar last time16:14
dholbach(upstream is notified)16:14
jono_akgraner, right so where did you do that?16:14
dholbachjono_: ok for me to remove them for now? they're just stubs anyway16:14
jono_dholbach, sure16:14
akgraneroh the event's calendar but they are gone now16:14
dholbachalright, let's hope that fixes it16:14
akgranerwell the learning calendar16:14
jono_akgraner, which events cal?16:14
jono_learning cal?16:14
jono_akgraner, are you sure they are fully deleted?16:14
akgranerjono_, yep sorry16:15
akgranerI'll look again16:15
jono_akgraner, it seems they are still being pulled in, which would suggest that it wasnt deleted fully16:15
akgranerI am not seeing anything else on the cal - not sure where to look now?16:16
jono_akgraner, hmmm, unless the events were cached somehow16:16
jono_anyway, I need to hop on with kim016:16
popeypleia2: I saw this and thought of you http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/asus-eee-pc-1005px-looks-lovely-in-your-choice-of-colors/16:16
jono_kim0, just give me one more sec, I forgot I don't have mumble on this box16:17
kim0jono_: niente problemo16:17
nigelbjcastro: I am too!16:24
nigelbI'm kicking off my own efforts back up this week.16:24
nigelbso, at least 20 patches will move every day, guaranteed16:24
akgranerdang - go nigelb!16:26
dholbachakgraner, pleia2, jcastro: can you please try to help me find recurring events on the learning events calendar with the summary of "Ubuntu Developer Week Session" or "Ubuntu App Developer Week Session"?16:28
dholbachakgraner, pleia2, jcastro: I think I purged all of them, but lernid still reads them from the .ical16:29
jcastrois that the google calendar?16:29
dholbachit might be cached, but I want to make sure16:29
dholbachyes16:29
akgranerdholbach, I am looking through all the events as well16:29
jcastrocan someone send me an invite? I don't have access to the learning events calendar16:30
nigelbakgraner: :)16:31
akgranerjcastro let me see if I can16:31
nigelbjcastro: can you get me some people to spam the planet?16:31
nigelbits only the 3 of us that did it so far16:31
jcastroI think we need more than planet spam16:31
nigelbjcastro: I'm thinking of a patch day16:32
akgranerI can only make changes to events I can't invite you16:32
nigelbyou, know to catch up16:32
nigelbakgraner: poke pleia2 or nhandler16:32
akgranerjcastro, jono has to send you the invite16:35
dholbachok, I can't find those recurring events in gcal and I deleted all the cache files that lernid has - I'm at a loss right now16:36
jcastrojono_: I need an invite to the learning events calendar when you have a chance16:36
nigelbdholbach: what happens?16:36
nigelbI think I know what it is16:36
nigelblook at the .lernid file16:36
dholbachlocation?16:37
dholbach~/.lernid does not ext16:37
dholbachexist16:37
nigelbits on jono's server16:37
* nigelb goes to find location of file thre16:37
nigelb2 minutes16:37
nigelbjcastro: need you help later on to move that file to canonical servers so we don't get blocked by jono (or any single individual)16:38
dholbachhttp://www.jonobacon.org/files/lernid/ubuntu.lernid16:38
dholbachnigelb: what's the problem with that file?16:38
nigelbdholbach: check that file16:38
nigelbits probably there16:38
dholbachnigelb: lernid shows the events + additional "Ubuntu Developer Week Session" events16:38
dholbachwhich are happening at the same time16:39
dholbachbut nobody knows where they come from16:39
nigelbits the ical I'm sure16:39
dholbachit'd help if you were a little bit more specific :-D16:40
akgranerbut the Ubuntu Developer Week Session has been deleted and replaced with the sessions with the titles16:40
nigelbdholbach: I would if I knew :D16:40
dholbachakgraner: still lernid find some of these sessions somewhere16:43
dholbachnever ever use recurring events in that calendar, it messes up everything16:43
nigelbdholbach: lemme try a fresh install16:43
akgranerso I noticed  - no one told me that a few months ago :-(  or wouldn't have16:43
dholbachyeah, don't worry - it's a bug that needs to be fixed elsewhere, upstream's aware of it - I just hope they fix it soon16:44
nigelbright, he's teling don't worry after the bashing :p16:45
dholbachok, I need to prepare the rest of my session, sorry - I can't find what's wrong16:46
nigelbdholbach: where do you have extra week?16:50
nigelbI see only user days and developer week16:50
nigelbI think you fixed it inadvertently16:50
jcastrojono_: wrong calendar, that's our normal work calendar16:51
jono_jcastro, eh?16:51
jcastroyou just sent me an invite for a calendar16:51
nigelbjcastro: its all good.  Lernid looks fine to me16:51
jcastrook16:51
jono_jcastro, I changed your performs16:52
nigelbbut, good idea to get the rights.  Never know when jono_  is in a good mood :p16:52
dholbachnigelb: look at the timetable in lernid16:52
jono_perms16:52
jono_nigelb, I am always in a good mood :)16:52
nigelbhaha16:52
nigelbdholbach: it does developer week and user days16:52
dholbachnigelb: yes, select UDW16:52
dholbachthen look at the timetable16:52
nigelbcrap16:53
nigelbfirst day shedule it looks like16:53
vishdholbach: hi , could you add the #u-c-chat in the topic for -classroom16:54
nigelbvish: its auto16:54
jcastroheh maybe next time we should check it earlier than the day of an event.16:54
nigelbjcastro: good idea16:54
vishlol16:54
jcastroakgraner: can you add a -2 or so to your checlist for IRC events to check lernid?16:54
vishnigelb: i know the topic changes , but we should have a mention there as well16:55
dholbachI checked it before, but either I didn't notice, but I don't think or something changed in the calendar afterwards16:55
nigelbvish: log a bug against classbot16:55
jono_kim0, https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-m-cloud-improve-wiki-pages16:55
vishnigelb: meh!16:55
nigelbdholbach: I think its TZs16:55
nigelbvish: everything is updated by classbot, and not by hand, so it should be done by classbot16:55
dholbachnigelb: if you can figure it out that'd be nie16:56
nigelbdholbach: no access to calender :x16:56
* nigelb has been swimming in ical16:56
vishnigelb: or even in the chanserv message would do16:56
nigelbvish: yes, but it will get deleted at end of day16:56
nigelbso like I said, classbot, please16:57
nigelbdholbach: I see it in ics.  its google calender b0rking16:59
nigelbs/ics/ical16:59
dholbachcan somebody give nigelb access to the calendar?16:59
dholbachI'm a bit busy right now16:59
* nigelb pokes jono_ ^17:00
akgranerjcastro, yep will do17:01
jono_nigelb, brb, on a call17:02
nigelbok :)17:02
* vish grumbles at no planet feed :s17:16
vishrather empty feed17:16
nigelbvish: what?17:18
nigelbentire planet is down or just rss?17:18
vishnigelb: http://planet.ubuntu.com/rss20.xml17:18
* nigelb suggests atom meanwhile17:19
duanedesignpopey: i got the screencast blog post up17:23
duanedesignpopey: http://okiebuntu.homelinux.com/blog/?p=17517:24
jcastrowow, lots of questions in dev week already!17:28
paultagheyya duanedesign :)17:28
paultagduanedesign: post looks good17:28
duanedesignhey paultag17:28
akgranerdang it - every time I follow developer week and I want to be more technical - but there is no free time  - DOH!18:28
Technovikinglater all, off for a week18:29
JFosee ya Technoviking18:30
Technovikinghave a good UDW, sorry I have to miss it18:30
jcastroakgraner: votes did it!18:37
jcastroakgraner: http://castrojo.tumblr.com/post/802732097/ubuntu-stack-exchange-proposal18:37
jcastroakgraner: you can just reuse that for UWN18:38
* nigelb voted!18:38
akgranerawesome thanks!18:38
nigelbjcastro: awesome idea!18:38
jcastronigelb: commit if you think it's good!18:39
* nigelb already did!18:39
akgranerjcastro, so now we can answer questions if we are registered  - right?18:40
jcastroI think so18:40
jcastrowait18:40
jcastrono, we need to get people to commit, then the site runs as a beta18:40
jcastrowhich is when you can answer questions18:40
akgranerahh ok18:40
jcastrojono_: can we delay by 10? I am out of caffeine and am not prepared19:02
jcastroI just need to run to get coffee19:03
paultagdid I hear beta?19:03
jono_jcastro, sure19:03
qenseI'm writing a transscript of a video and it was said that something was bound to grow. The way it sounded to me was this: "the something for something is sat to keep on growing", but that doesn't feel correct. Should it be 'is set to keep on growing'?19:04
qenseI can't reveal the video yet, that will be done later today!19:05
paultagqense: yessir, set sounds more right to my ear19:08
qensepaultag: Yeah, I'll use that. The context makes it reasonably clear anyway. Thanks!19:09
nigelbqense: oooh, its ready already19:09
paultagqense: :)19:09
qensenigelb: Nothing Ubunty here.19:10
qenseMore GUADECy19:10
* nigelb does the good old trick of knowing what qense is talking about19:11
qense:)19:11
nigelbok, I'm off to bed.19:11
qensesleep well nigelb19:11
paultagnight nigelb, happy birthday :)19:11
nigelbThanks folks for giving me a great time on my birthday19:11
qensehave a happy last few hours of your birthday19:11
paultagnigelb: righto19:12
nigelbIt indeed was special, especialy since I wasn't able to be with family (user days weekend)19:12
qensenigelb: You skipped your birthday for the UserDay?19:14
nigelbqense: I skipped going to hometown for user days19:15
qensenigelb: That's dedication!19:15
* nigelb was lazy to pack too, but thats entirely different matter19:15
qenseLets keep with the first story. :) No laziness!19:17
paultagBah19:18
paultaga good programmer is a lazy programmer19:18
nigelbhah19:19
* nigelb goes to bed for real now19:19
qensesleep weel!19:19
JFopaultag, same with SysAdmin :)19:20
paultagJFo: yessir!19:21
paultagscripting saves the day, every day :)19:21
duanedesign*/519:45
paultagduanedesign: d'oh :)19:47
Andre_Gondimthe new font in terminal is so ugly, anyone saw this?19:55
AlanBellit isn't a monospace font19:56
duanedesignpaultag: ugh i do that more than id like to admit19:59
jcastrohey paultag19:59
jcastroyou're one of those reddit monkeys right?19:59
papertigersAlanBell: I wish I could use the new font in terminal20:09
akgranerpopey, ping  did you by any chance get an announcement together about the new members from the EMEA board?20:12
akgranerpeople are asking why I didn't include them in the last issue of UWN20:12
=== jorge is now known as jcastro
papertigersdoes anyone know if canonical does internship type jobs, I was pointed to this channel by dholbach20:14
JFopapertigers, we do on occasion. I'm afraid I have no other detail than that20:15
JFowhat particular area?20:15
papertigersJFo: go to school for applied networking / Systems administration20:15
JFoah20:15
papertigersNeed one more internship before I can graduate20:15
JFowhat geography are you based out of?20:15
papertigersEast Coast US, but id be willing ro relocate20:16
jussipapertigers: I know jono was advertiing some internships recently, perhaps have  a glance at his blog20:17
papertigersjussi: ahh okay Ill look into it20:19
jussipapertigers: http://www.jonobacon.org/2010/03/19/two-ubuntu-community-team-intern-opportunities-available/20:19
papertigersthe only problem may be they might not be paid, my school requires its a paid internship which they call co-op's20:19
jussioh wait, http://www.jonobacon.org/2010/03/23/ubuntu-community-team-opportunities-second-draft/20:20
jussipapertigers: how relocatable are you? and are you looking only from canonical?20:20
papertigersI am finishing up a network security internship this aug, and I have one left to do, and I really want to do it at canonical20:21
jussiok20:22
papertigersjussi: currently I am in chicago, but I live in ny had to relocate for this job20:22
jussipapertigers: no probs. i work for a company in finlnd ;)20:22
papertigersnice! doing what?20:23
jussipapertigers: Im in marketing, however the company makes incredibly expensive linux mobiles20:24
jussipapertigers: and in this case, being expensive is a selling point :D20:25
papertigersjussi: awesome, what are they??20:30
jussipapertigers: htttp://www.galentia.com20:30
papertigersjussi: ahhh I recently saw that on engadget/gizmodo20:31
vishlooks like jussi had too much tea ;p20:34
vish"t"20:34
jcastrocjohnston: around?20:34
jussipapertigers: you did?20:40
papertigersjussi: yeah they showed a phone just like that20:43
papertigerscame in a nice box and everything like that, may not have been your company though20:44
jussipapertigers: yeah, theres a few out there, though I supect it was vertu20:45
papertigersjussi: so can I come work in finland haha20:47
papertigersjussi: found it! http://gizmodo.com/5557011/the-50000-android-phone20:49
jussioh yeah20:50
jussiseen that. tho it keeps getting delayed. and delayed...20:50
papertigerstoo expensive for me haha20:51
cjohnstonhey jcastro20:54
jcastrocjohnston: you still using irssi?20:55
jcastrocjohnston: any new recommendations? I found your old blog post20:55
cjohnstonyes.. still irssi20:56
jcastroI mean script recommendations (sorry)20:56
cjohnstonNothing new though20:57
cjohnston:-(20:57
cjohnstoni had to go look20:57
jcastrono worries20:58
cjohnstonmy lappy barfs everytime I run it :-(20:58
jcastroI was on weechat for a while but my session died so I'm going back old school20:58
cjohnstongotcha20:58
cjohnstonI could never get into weechat20:58
jcastroit's ok, it has nicer defaults I think, no reason you couldn't do it all in irssi20:59
jussiI assume youve got the markerline script?20:59
papertigerscjohnston: its what I use, I like it a lot20:59
cjohnstonya20:59
cjohnstonjussi: markerline?20:59
jcastrojussi: yeah it appears to have that ootb20:59
jussiahh20:59
jussiand the auto away script? (away on screeen detach)20:59
jcastroyep, added that one20:59
* jussi tries to remember what he used to run on irssi21:00
jussinick color?21:00
cjohnstonjussi: http://chrisjohnston.org/2010/my-favorite-irssi-scripts21:00
cjohnstonthats pretty much what I run21:00
jcastroautowhois looks awesome21:01
jcastrosomeone pm me21:01
jussijcastro: hows that?21:01
jcastrohmm no I boned that up21:02
jussiyou know, this is really damn frustrating21:02
jussiI still cant install maverick21:02
jussi:(21:02
jcastrowhat's the problem?21:02
cjohnstonI think my lappy is barfing 'cause of maverick21:03
jcastrothe mav kernel is crushing my battery life21:03
jussijcastro: Ive a bug filed and the installer guys are looking, but it doesnt detect my hdd in ubiquity. it see it in dolphin tho21:03
jcastrooh dude that happened to me21:03
jcastroI switched it to "IDE" in the bios21:04
jcastrofrom AHCI or whatever it was before21:04
jussiits set t ide... Illl look again though.21:04
jussibut thanks for the tip21:04
jussijcastro: was it on the desktop or lappy?21:04
jcastroI thought that was a laptop specifc bug21:04
jcastrolaptop21:04
jussiahh, mines on a desktop, with the asus p5q mb21:05
jcastromaybe the installer is having issues21:05
jussiyeah21:05
jcastrosince you're here, do you have a link to the config info for nickserving in irssi on startup?21:05
jussiits curious though, as I have full access to the drive in dolphin21:06
jussijcastro: not really, what do you need?21:06
jussiyou basically put yur nickserv password as the server password and all is good.21:06
jcastroidentify to the nickserv on launch21:06
jcastrooh21:06
jussimany dont know that, but hats ow it works. then you are identified before joining chans21:07
jcastrorock21:09
jcastrowhen I relaunched I forgot to fire up byobu, so I am just fixing up the config now21:09
cjohnstonI'm using cap_sasl since I didnt know that21:09
jcastrosince I have to quit anyway21:09
jussijcastro: iirc, it wipes any config changes on quit...21:10
jussiso back up your file...21:10
jussiyou have to put them in while its not running, if you directly edit the file21:10
jcastro!! really?21:10
ubot2Factoid 'really?' not found21:10
jcastroman, thanks for the tip21:10
jcastroI was just about to save21:10
jussijcastro: thats my memory, but a back up isnt a bad thing in anycase ;)21:11
jcastroWarning: Configuration file was modified while irssi was running. Saving configuration to file '/home/jorge/.irssi/config.autosave' instead. Use  /SAVE or /RELOAD to get rid of this message.21:11
jcastroaha21:11
jcastrothey must have fixed that21:11
jussijorge: you mustve done something wrong21:12
jorgeindeed21:12
=== jorge is now known as jcastro
jussias jorge is someone elses registered nick21:13
jcastroyeah21:14
jussijcastro: you should grab a second nick thats grouped to yours.21:14
jcastrooh well, I'll sort it the next time I lose a session in 6 months or whatever21:14
jussijcastro: like do /nick jcastro_21:15
jussithen /msg nickserv group21:15
jussithatll link jcastro_ with your jcastro21:15
jcastrojono_: around still?21:50
doctormoMan why is it every day I do GC development launchpad staging is down.21:51
jono_jcastro, yup21:53
jcastrojono_: behold what my mailman brought me: http://ubuntuone.com/p/9QS/21:53
jcastrojust now21:53
jcastroI tried to hug him, he didn't like that21:53
doctormojcastro: Woot, from that photo I could print duplicates! :-D21:54
jono_jcastro, screw you21:54
jono_I hate you21:54
jono_:)21:54
doctormojono_: What is this MEGADEATH and why do people want to die on mass?21:55
jono_lol21:55
jono_jcastro, want to do the status call now?21:55
jcastroyes pls21:56
paultagjcastro: yeah I'm a huge redditor :)21:57
paultagjcastro: why, what's up?21:57
papertigersjono_: hey I was wondering if you got my msg! :)21:57
paultagHey, while I'm here. Did anyone else get an email from Google? I'm pretty warry about as to why they would get in touch with me, and I can't help but think it's because of Ubuntu22:07
czajkowskipaultag: they are on a massive hiring buzz atm and are using a lot of linkedin to mail people22:12
czajkowskigahhhh mooodle so help me I'm gonna box you left right and centre, work damn you on flipping firefox and stop making me pull my hair out22:12
qenseczajkowski: You've found a new job, I hear?22:19
czajkowskiI did22:19
qenseOne with Moodle?22:19
czajkowskinews to me22:19
czajkowskioh no22:19
czajkowskiI'm doing a course22:19
czajkowski:)22:19
qenseah, learning!22:19
czajkowskiand moodle is not working on Ubuntu using FF or chromium22:19
czajkowskiso having to use a windows machine22:19
* czajkowski is doing a course in project management 22:20
jcastropaultag: we need reddit juice! http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/coqcg/ubuntu_area_51_stack_exchange_proposed_qa_site/22:21
czajkowskibeen tweeting it today22:22
czajkowskiusuing #locoteams and #ubuntu tags22:22
jcastro<322:22
czajkowskijcastro: ello didn't see you there22:22
jcastrohi2u!22:22
qenseczajkowski: Someone from Ubuntu NL complained today that my last tweet didn't use the #locoteams tag. :)22:22
qenseIt seems to be getting noticed.22:22
czajkowskiqense: tis you have no idea how happy that makes me :D22:23
czajkowski<--- easily pleased22:23
qenseczajkowski: Glad to do so!22:24
jcastrowould you guys think less of me if I told you I like def leppard?22:26
czajkowskino I like them too22:26
czajkowskibut then again I don't like yer usual weird music :)22:26
paultagczajkowski: did you get mail about it?22:29
czajkowskipaultag: ages ago22:29
paultagjcastro: upvote :)22:29
paultagczajkowski: what came of it?22:29
czajkowskifor dublin offices. seeing as they are on a massive hiring buxzz over here and opening a 3rd office22:29
czajkowskipaultag: you shuld move to dublin!22:29
czajkowskipaultag: I'm not a flipping developer which seems to be removing me from most available job openings :(22:30
jcastropaultag: thanks, I apparently wasn't around when reddit became useful and digg disappeared22:30
paultagczajkowski: they asked me about a SRE gig? I have a feeling it's just a sysop22:30
paultagczajkowski: I want a developer gig >:(22:30
paultagjcastro: :)22:30
paultagjcastro: we have a few ubuntu-ers on reddit. Let me know and I'll get the Ubuntu army into gear ;)22:30
czajkowskipaultag: my idea of hell on earth :)22:31
paultagperhaps I'll have to try and apply at Canonical22:31
paultagsee if I can bribe jcastro into writing me a recomendation by getting him wicked drunk22:32
jcastroheh22:32
doctormoWho is on the IRC council or is a freenode bod? http://webchat.freenode.net/ no longer works with #ubuntu :-(22:32
paultagdoctormo: it does22:33
paultagdoctormo: just identify22:33
paultagdoctormo: or wait for the bot invite22:33
doctormoNot for me!22:33
paultagdoctormo: where did it redirect you to?22:33
doctormoFor people I want to invite to get support.22:33
doctormojcastro: Is the launchpad team working on UK time or have they all gone on holiday?22:36
jcastrolp has people all over the world like ubuntu does22:37
jcastroI guess it depends on the person22:37
czajkowskidoctormo: asking freenode staffers now22:38
doctormohmm, I think I'm going to point my tests at live until staging is back up, otherwise I'll be sitting on my hands with these ultimate GC tests and then get distracted.22:38
qenseA video message from Neelie Kroes for GUADEC: <http://guadec.org/>.22:47
qenseI've added English and Dutch subtitles, if you find it hard to follow the spoken English.22:47
qensejcastro: ^^ !! ??22:48
qenseI'd be glad if people with YouTube accounts could Like the video: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ok100U4Fo3Y>. Would be nice to get this positive message heard.22:54

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