[01:43] hola folks [03:09] nigelb, pleia2, paultag: http://imagebin.ca/view/P8odXf99.html Thoughts on this title card. [03:12] doctormo: sweet! [03:14] Im off to work, later everyone :) [05:15] doctormo: that's great :) [05:16] pleia2: geeknic was awesome? [05:17] nigelb: it was short, but fun :) [05:17] pleia2: I'm procrastinating, can you write a thank you note to instructors? [05:21] pleia2: if you're tired, I can do it ;) [06:28] nigelb: I don't have time tonight, but I could in the morning if you don't have a chance [06:34] pleia2: I'll do it in a few hours when I can take a break from work [06:34] k :) [07:25] good morning everyone! [07:27] mr AlanBell. please PM me when you wake up. [07:27] morning dpm ! [07:28] jussi: did you just kill a core? o.O [07:28] nigelb: nah, just the connection on it [07:28] for me to freenode [07:28] jussi: ah [07:28] there are still others on that core [07:28] heh [07:29] its just the standard quit message [07:29] hey nigelb, morning :) [07:30] dpm: watched the match last night? [07:30] * jussi grumbles at stupid diving spaniards [07:31] * nigelb had warned roomates - wake me and you're getting kicked [07:31] oooh! [07:32] * jussi notes its mr nigelb's birthday! happy birthday nigelb! [07:32] nigelb, I actually didn't. We went for dinner somewhere remote and quiet without big screens and no football :) [07:40] jussi: thank you! [07:40] dpm: I thought so ;) [07:53] hi jussi [07:59] good morning [07:59] dpm: congratulations! :) [07:59] dpm: how was your holidays? [08:02] dholbach, hey, morning. holidays where awesome :) [08:02] excellent - hope you had some time to relax :) [08:05] absolutely - one week withou internet or mobile does wonders :) [08:05] haha [08:05] nice [08:05] morning dholbach :) [08:06] your turn today :D [08:06] dpm: soon loco teams will be able to set their languages in the loco directory - if you have any crazy thoughts what we can do with that, let me know (the plan was to allow online events in the future, where teams with the same language could collaborate) [08:06] nigelb: later - I need to sort out a few things, today's first day of UDW [08:09] dholbach, ah, right. I'll think about it [08:09] dholbach: oh oh, I forgot I'm doing a session for UDS [08:09] UDW rather [08:09] dholbach: also uud was rocking on saturday [08:09] yeah, I need to prepare my talk for tomorrow as well [08:10] lots of people attended ubuntu user days :) [08:12] nigelb: how many? do you know? [08:16] nigelb: done [08:16] hola ara [08:16] dholbach: so far 18 have taken the survey [08:16] ara: congratulations :) [08:16] hola ara [08:16] morning dholbach [08:16] nigelb: http://daniel.holba.ch/blog/?p=726 [08:16] * nigelb hugs dholbach [08:16] * dholbach hugs nigelb back [09:13] oh dear [09:14] some things just crack me up! [09:14] http://paste.ubuntu.com/462415/ [09:18] \o/ listadmin [09:19] hmm , can we claim it , use it for increasing Ubuntu infra :D [09:34] nigelb: [09:34] _ _ _ ____ ______ __ ____ ___ ____ _____ _ _ ____ _ __ ___ [09:34] | | | | / \ | _ \| _ \ \ / / | __ )_ _| _ \_ _| | | | _ \ / \\ \ / / | [09:34] | |_| | / _ \ | |_) | |_) \ V / | _ \| || |_) || | | |_| | | | |/ _ \\ V /| | [09:34] | _ |/ ___ \| __/| __/ | | | |_) | || _ < | | | _ | |_| / ___ \| | |_| [09:34] |_| |_/_/ \_\_| |_| |_| |____/___|_| \_\|_| |_| |_|____/_/ \_\_| (_) [09:34] [09:34] * dholbach hugs nigelb [09:34] wow [09:35] dholbach: that's pro [09:35] :-) [09:35] * dholbach hugs ddecator too [09:35] haha [09:35] * ddecator hugs dholbach back [09:40] hola randa_ [09:41] hola dholbach [09:42] nigelb: flooding? [09:45] dholbach: thanks!! [09:45] doctormo: almost [09:46] * nigelb hugs dholbach back! [09:47] nigelb: Congratulations! [09:48] qense: :) thanks! [09:49] dpm: and the LD is probably the first customer for adiroiban's work :) [09:50] we use launchpad.languages.getAllLanguages() ! :) [09:50] so probably very modest customers ;-) [09:51] qense: something wrong with your blog? [09:52] nigelb: You mean the blog posts that keep appearing on Planet Ubuntu? That's because I first stickied them and then unstickied them. [09:52] that is apparently enough for PlanetPlanet to thinkt hey're new. [09:52] qense: oh, ok [09:53] apologises for the inconvenience [09:56] nah, planet is wierd most of the time [09:57] it comes with the territory [09:57] to deal with so many platforms at the same time [09:59] nigelb: happy birthday mate [10:00] dholbach, awesome, I'll let Adi know [10:01] Wait! Isn't today the start of some sort of UbuntuXWeek? [10:01] developer [10:01] I knew it! [10:02] * dpm belatedly hugs nigelb - happy birthday! [10:02] dpm: he knows :) [10:02] ah, cool :) [10:02] dpm: when you were gone and I didn't know if I should use /usr/share/xml/iso-codes/iso_639_3.xml or /usr/share/xml/iso-codes/iso_639.xml he told me to use the API [10:03] awesome [10:09] nigelb: Comapre last night's with this mornings attempt:http://imagebin.ca/view/0NmrU5g.html I wanted to do a background. [10:38] kim0: thanks for reposting [10:57] hmm , the planet feed seems down [11:02] doctormo: attempt: isn't a valid protocol [11:02] :) [11:04] do, or do not, there is no try [11:53] aloha [11:53] dpm: belated hug back :) [11:53] ddecator: thanks :) [11:54] doctormo: love the open box! [12:03] nigelb: happy birthday to you...happy birthday to you...happy birthday dear nigel...happy birthday to you [12:06] duanedesign: *hugs* thank you! [12:10] :) [12:16] nigelb: Happy Bday man :) Yaaaaayy [12:18] kim0: thanks you!! === Pendulum_ is now known as Pendulum [13:19] Happy Birthday nigelb [13:42] nigelb, Happy Birthday! [14:00] doctormo: thank you! [14:00] akgraner: thanks! [14:01] akgraner: Now how about that birtday gift :p (the interview) [14:02] nigelb, :-) My editing skills are not so great so it's taking my a bit longer to edit the audio in audacity but I'll get it finished and get this figured out - it's easy to edit the beginning and end but a little harder for me to edit areas during the interview..;-/ [14:06] akgraner: haha [14:06] ok :) [14:33] Grrr, man, I'm so over doing this work [14:33] Happy birthday nigelb :) [14:34] paultag: welcome to the real world :;p [14:34] czajkowski: :/ [14:34] czajkowski: I spend my whole life programming and learning everything I can about computing theory, and here I am. Writing a website. I am really bad at writing, too. [14:35] czajkowski: not even HTML, just plain text. [14:39] :( [14:39] paultag: thanks man! [14:40] nigelb: Did you see my question above? [14:40] hey I need some help. This guy is really giving me frak on reddit. Where can I find Ubuntu docs on why we use sudo over root, my guess is he won't listen to anything less [14:40] hey doctormo [14:41] !rootsudo [14:41] sudo is a command to run command-line programs with superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli ) . Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (Gnome, XFCE), or !kdesudo (KDE). If you're unable to execute commands with sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo [14:41] there [14:41] paultag: Do you have to answer him? http://xkcd.com/386/ [14:41] thanks popey [14:41] doctormo: this dude is just a tool [14:42] is it sad that I know which xkcd that is from the number? [14:42] Yup. [14:42] mind you it's linked on my wiki page :) [14:43] I need to stop redditing. I just end up in comment tiffs, and I hate it. [14:43] popey: haha, so it is [14:44] i have never used reddit [14:44] popey: don't. It used to be cool, but it's just swamped. It used to be really nice for talking about news, and most people were educated. Now it's just everyone who used to be at Digg or 4chan [14:45] much like every other site [14:45] yeah, but it got bad. There was an article about the roman system for some kinda numarical math, and the one 4 years ago was broken down int he commants with details in code, math proofs etc [14:46] it got posted again this year, and it was just "lol count my womon that i do" "yer mom, lulz" [14:46] Shame. [14:46] paultag: Does reddit not have a stupid hammer? [14:46] Wil Wheaton, and Randal(?) Monroe, the xkcd guy both spent time there [14:46] doctormo: :/ [14:52] doctormo: P.S. your title card looks great [14:52] paultag: The new one? [14:52] doctormo: the one you ping'd me on [14:52] paultag: http://imagebin.ca/view/0NmrU5g.html [14:53] that's the one doctormo [14:54] doctormo: when do you want to do some STARF'ing ? [14:54] doctormo: we have a lot of work to do [14:54] paultag: I've been waiting on you to be ready to focus on it :-D [14:55] doctormo: aye, I've been swamped, sorry! I'm good to roll now that UUD is done, but I'm still backed up with my queue. We should meet up downtown again and get some chunks done [14:59] I agree, wednesday? [15:00] doctormo: nogo, I'm bowling with my grandmother :) [15:01] paultag: I'm trying hard not to laugh and be touched at the same time, thusday? [15:02] :P [15:02] doctormo: I'd be able to leave here at about 6 [15:03] I help at a local center for teaching dyslexyic kids from 3 --> 5 on Tu Th [15:03] paultag: you do the calendar thing then! [15:03] Fine, fine! Second :) [15:05] also, in a pinch of irony -- dyslexic * [15:06] I honestly think someone was playing silly buggers when they came up with that spelling. [15:06] :) [15:06] dislexia is fine, dyslexia is just dumb. [15:07] Unless we like dyslexics in dystress. [15:07] doctormo: sec, I'm just trying to figure out when I'm OK to take my car ( My sister asked to borrow it to head to New York ) [15:07] doctormo: I'll get back to you before high noon. If I have not, whine at me. Chances are I forgot [15:09] * popey notes people don't generally 'come up with' spellings, they tend to evolve [15:09] except for M Webster who made stuff up to make spelling easier in the colonies :) [15:09] m-w ftw :) [15:10] Learn English, slacker! :) [15:10] :P [15:11] I was thinking of heading to the UK at some point soon. I think it would be fun, the last time I was there, I was about 10. I want to hit an English Pub, for sure [15:11] I'd stick out like a sore thumb, I think [15:12] less than you'd think [15:14] popey: English does evolve, but spellings have gone through a number of clean-up stages where the crown or some other agent decided to amend lots of words. Respelling everything from 'kw' to 'qu' was a big one for instance. [15:23] dholbach: nigelb: I am concerned about 2 slow weeks in a row! [15:24] yes [15:24] we're generally not making much progress [15:24] hey doctormo poke [15:25] paultag: Would you stop facebook poking me and just ping me ;-) [15:25] we could raise more awareness, for example on the forums [15:25] haha [15:25] have another patch day [15:25] dholbach: Is the problem the number of people involved? [15:25] but I'm stretched too thin right now to lead this effort [15:25] doctormo: I'm good tues or thurs, I can leave at 3 -- I have someone who can cover [15:25] doctormo: yes [15:25] doctormo: so it's up to you, tom. or thurs :) [15:26] dholbach: You might need a leader then as a first task, otherwise you won't have the focus to follow it and organise and train all the people that might be interested in it. [15:27] paultag: We'll go for tomorrow then and I'll drag a laptop with me, same place, Tealux? [15:27] doctormo: sounds like a plan :) [15:27] Oh wait doctormo [15:28] doctormo: I walked past it on saturday, and it was closed [15:28] doctormo: do you know if it's back open yet? [15:28] doctormo: nigelb is the fearless leader! :) [15:31] dholbach: I thought he was leading the User Days too? [15:31] paultag: I emailed them just in case. [15:31] doctormo: thanks, rockstar [15:32] doctormo: do we have a plan b ? [15:32] doctormo: as much as I hate them, Starbucks has free WiFi these days [15:32] doctormo: and there is one close-ish to Tealuxe IIRC [15:32] paultag: There are plenty of places in the area. [15:33] doctormo: righto. Let's just meet there regardless [15:33] doctormo: and walk if we need to :) === jono is now known as Guest68844 [15:51] hey all [15:52] YO! [16:00] dholbach, something is weird with the events in Lernid [16:00] Guest68844: what's the problem? [16:00] it has a bunch of 'Ubuntu Developer Week Session' events there [16:00] load it up and look at the list [16:00] kim0, gonna be a few mins late [16:00] FFS! [16:01] dpm, welcome back :) [16:01] Guest68844: jono ? [16:01] u lost ur nic [16:01] hey Guest68844, thanks :) [16:01] Guest68844: mgiht want to /msg nickserv :) [16:01] damn [16:01] hehe [16:01] stupid freenode [16:01] stupid auto nick change ;) [16:01] brb [16:02] bloody thing [16:02] jono_: sure thing .. ping me when ready [16:02] jono_: looks like you are not idet'd [16:02] jono_: I have no idea - they're all fine in the calendar [16:02] dholbach, can you check into this - people are getting confused [16:02] jono_: I put them in like 4 times [16:02] jono_: you might loose this soon [16:02] jono_: I still need to prepare my session [16:02] jono_: I'll do my best and see what I can do though [16:02] dholbach, well can you ask someone else to look into it then [16:03] jono_: we need to reschedule our call too [16:03] dholbach, sure [16:03] it's weird it has some of the events in there twice [16:03] jono_: does lernid just read one calendar? [16:03] jono_: or does it read several calendars? [16:03] jono_: ping [16:04] dholbach, just one [16:04] has anyone not voted for offtopic questions on the stack exchange? [16:04] Technoviking, hey [16:04] http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/7716?tab=offtopic&phase=definition#tab-top [16:04] can't talk Technoviking I have a call next [16:04] evan promises to fix pet installer bugs in exchange for votes (just kidding, he never closes bugs) [16:04] jono_: ok [16:04] nhandler, akgraner, pleia2: any idea why lernid shows some of the UDW events as "Ubuntu Developer Week Session" and also as a regular session? [16:05] jcastro, can you help dholbach fix this Lernid issue [16:05] look into what could be going wrong [16:05] maybe nhandler can help too [16:05] I dunno but I'll check the calendar and see [16:06] it seems we only have these problems for today [16:08] jono_: I wanted to see if the forums stats I sent you will work, I'm going on vacation later today so wanted to makes sure Matt had everything he needed before I go. Ping me later when you have the time. [16:08] I just looked at the Calendar and the events are listed right.. [16:08] Technoviking, they should be great [16:08] thanks [16:10] akgraner, dholbach, jcastro are you seeing the events I am referring to in the schedule? [16:11] I want to make sure this is reproduceable [16:11] yes [16:11] k [16:11] ok [16:12] ok [16:12] I see that bug [16:12] I am wondering if the fridge event on the calendar is also affecting it [16:12] an "ubuntu developer week session" every hour in addition to the actual session [16:12] jcastro, yeah [16:13] but only for today [16:13] jono_, that's what I am thinking - does it pull from the Fridge? [16:13] jono_: correct [16:13] I don't have them listed per hour on the Fridge though [16:13] ahhh no the fridge event is every day, this onl effects today [16:13] jono_: did you set up the sessions for Ubuntu App Dev Week? [16:13] it must be a problem in the cal [16:13] dholbach, not yet [16:13] somebody did and they caused the problems the last time [16:13] we had the set up as Ubuntu Developer Week Session in the beginning [16:13] but they aren't that way now [16:14] they're not filled out yet, just "Ubuntu App Dev Week", but are recurring events which is what broke the calendar last time [16:14] (upstream is notified) [16:14] akgraner, right so where did you do that? [16:14] jono_: ok for me to remove them for now? they're just stubs anyway [16:14] dholbach, sure [16:14] oh the event's calendar but they are gone now [16:14] alright, let's hope that fixes it [16:14] well the learning calendar [16:14] akgraner, which events cal? [16:14] learning cal? [16:14] akgraner, are you sure they are fully deleted? [16:15] jono_, yep sorry [16:15] I'll look again [16:15] akgraner, it seems they are still being pulled in, which would suggest that it wasnt deleted fully [16:16] I am not seeing anything else on the cal - not sure where to look now? [16:16] akgraner, hmmm, unless the events were cached somehow [16:16] anyway, I need to hop on with kim0 [16:16] pleia2: I saw this and thought of you http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/asus-eee-pc-1005px-looks-lovely-in-your-choice-of-colors/ [16:17] kim0, just give me one more sec, I forgot I don't have mumble on this box [16:17] jono_: niente problemo [16:24] jcastro: I am too! [16:24] I'm kicking off my own efforts back up this week. [16:24] so, at least 20 patches will move every day, guaranteed [16:26] dang - go nigelb! [16:28] akgraner, pleia2, jcastro: can you please try to help me find recurring events on the learning events calendar with the summary of "Ubuntu Developer Week Session" or "Ubuntu App Developer Week Session"? [16:29] akgraner, pleia2, jcastro: I think I purged all of them, but lernid still reads them from the .ical [16:29] is that the google calendar? [16:29] it might be cached, but I want to make sure [16:29] yes [16:29] dholbach, I am looking through all the events as well [16:30] can someone send me an invite? I don't have access to the learning events calendar [16:31] akgraner: :) [16:31] jcastro let me see if I can [16:31] jcastro: can you get me some people to spam the planet? [16:31] its only the 3 of us that did it so far [16:31] I think we need more than planet spam [16:32] jcastro: I'm thinking of a patch day [16:32] I can only make changes to events I can't invite you [16:32] you, know to catch up [16:32] akgraner: poke pleia2 or nhandler [16:35] jcastro, jono has to send you the invite [16:36] ok, I can't find those recurring events in gcal and I deleted all the cache files that lernid has - I'm at a loss right now [16:36] jono_: I need an invite to the learning events calendar when you have a chance [16:36] dholbach: what happens? [16:36] I think I know what it is [16:36] look at the .lernid file [16:37] location? [16:37] ~/.lernid does not ext [16:37] exist [16:37] its on jono's server [16:37] * nigelb goes to find location of file thre [16:37] 2 minutes [16:38] jcastro: need you help later on to move that file to canonical servers so we don't get blocked by jono (or any single individual) [16:38] http://www.jonobacon.org/files/lernid/ubuntu.lernid [16:38] nigelb: what's the problem with that file? [16:38] dholbach: check that file [16:38] its probably there [16:38] nigelb: lernid shows the events + additional "Ubuntu Developer Week Session" events [16:39] which are happening at the same time [16:39] but nobody knows where they come from [16:39] its the ical I'm sure [16:40] it'd help if you were a little bit more specific :-D [16:40] but the Ubuntu Developer Week Session has been deleted and replaced with the sessions with the titles [16:40] dholbach: I would if I knew :D [16:43] akgraner: still lernid find some of these sessions somewhere [16:43] never ever use recurring events in that calendar, it messes up everything [16:43] dholbach: lemme try a fresh install [16:43] so I noticed - no one told me that a few months ago :-( or wouldn't have [16:44] yeah, don't worry - it's a bug that needs to be fixed elsewhere, upstream's aware of it - I just hope they fix it soon [16:45] right, he's teling don't worry after the bashing :p [16:46] ok, I need to prepare the rest of my session, sorry - I can't find what's wrong [16:50] dholbach: where do you have extra week? [16:50] I see only user days and developer week [16:50] I think you fixed it inadvertently [16:51] jono_: wrong calendar, that's our normal work calendar [16:51] jcastro, eh? [16:51] you just sent me an invite for a calendar [16:51] jcastro: its all good. Lernid looks fine to me [16:51] ok [16:52] jcastro, I changed your performs [16:52] but, good idea to get the rights. Never know when jono_ is in a good mood :p [16:52] nigelb: look at the timetable in lernid [16:52] perms [16:52] nigelb, I am always in a good mood :) [16:52] haha [16:52] dholbach: it does developer week and user days [16:52] nigelb: yes, select UDW [16:52] then look at the timetable [16:53] crap [16:53] first day shedule it looks like [16:54] dholbach: hi , could you add the #u-c-chat in the topic for -classroom [16:54] vish: its auto [16:54] heh maybe next time we should check it earlier than the day of an event. [16:54] jcastro: good idea [16:54] lol [16:54] akgraner: can you add a -2 or so to your checlist for IRC events to check lernid? [16:55] nigelb: i know the topic changes , but we should have a mention there as well [16:55] I checked it before, but either I didn't notice, but I don't think or something changed in the calendar afterwards [16:55] vish: log a bug against classbot [16:55] kim0, https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-m-cloud-improve-wiki-pages [16:55] nigelb: meh! [16:55] dholbach: I think its TZs [16:55] vish: everything is updated by classbot, and not by hand, so it should be done by classbot [16:56] nigelb: if you can figure it out that'd be nie [16:56] dholbach: no access to calender :x [16:56] * nigelb has been swimming in ical [16:56] nigelb: or even in the chanserv message would do [16:56] vish: yes, but it will get deleted at end of day [16:57] so like I said, classbot, please [16:59] dholbach: I see it in ics. its google calender b0rking [16:59] s/ics/ical [16:59] can somebody give nigelb access to the calendar? [16:59] I'm a bit busy right now [17:00] * nigelb pokes jono_ ^ [17:01] jcastro, yep will do [17:02] nigelb, brb, on a call [17:02] ok :) [17:16] * vish grumbles at no planet feed :s [17:16] rather empty feed [17:18]