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humphreybchey daker, you around?03:09
dakeryep03:10
humphreybchow's the quickshot going? And have you got around to fixing the planet?03:10
humphreybcquickshot site*03:10
dakeryes for this week03:12
humphreybcwicked03:12
humphreybcalmost finished the UMP site, just waiting to sort out some pictograms and I need to fix photoshop.03:12
dakerhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek#The timetable03:12
humphreybcyes, developer week is on03:13
dakerthere is no django session ?03:14
humphreybcno idea03:14
dakeryoupi there is a session on Friday03:22
* daker doesn't know if he is ready to apply for a membership03:33
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jenkinshey09:39
dpmhey :)09:39
jenkinshave you looked at the draft?09:39
dpmjenkins, sorry for not having responded earlier, I've been away for a week and I've just come back today. I had a quick look at it and it looked great to me. Let me have another look now, I've also got some questions to you09:40
jenkinsno worries,09:40
jenkinslp:~ubuntu-manual/ubuntu-translations-quickstart/booklet  is the branch with it in09:40
vishdpm: hi , which is the channel for ubuntu translations?09:41
dpmvish, #ubuntu-translators09:41
vishdpm: cool , thanks09:41
dpmnp :)09:41
humphreybcoh look!09:45
humphreybcit's David Planella!09:45
dpmhey humphreybc :)10:05
humphreybchello!10:06
humphreybchaven't talked since UDS10:06
nisshhhumphreybc: hey10:06
dpmyeah, time flies :)10:06
nisshhmy sis just got a lovebird and its sitting on my shoulder10:07
humphreybcnisshh: a lovebird??10:07
nisshhyea10:08
nisshhlike a budgy10:08
nisshha real bird10:08
humphreybcgood times10:08
nisshhits good because its really quiet10:08
nisshhdoesnt swuak at all10:08
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humphreybcbe back soon10:09
dpmjenkins, I've had another look at the draft, it look fantastic to me. That, plus some styling, was exactly what I was looking for. What would be the next step to basically make it look awesome?10:12
jenkinsdpm basically its what do you want changed and where10:13
dpmjenkins, so shall I just make a list and add it as a reply to your e-mail?10:14
jenkinsthat woul dbe great10:15
nisshhdpm: who are you?10:15
jenkinstranslations cordinator iirc10:16
dpmnisshh, and you? :)10:16
vishnisshh: https://launchpad.net/~dpm10:16
dpmhttps://launchpad.net/~dpm10:16
vish:)10:16
dpmah, vish beat me to it :)10:16
nisshhah10:16
nisshhcool10:16
nisshhi was like "who the hell is this guy he knows everyone!10:16
nisshh"10:17
dpmhahaha10:17
nisshhdpm: https://launchpad.net/~nisshh10:17
dpmnice to meet you then, nisshh :)10:18
nisshhyou too dpm :)10:18
dpmjenkins, while I'm preparing that list of what I'd like changed in the booklet and where, I've got a couple of questions. I've got limited experience with docbook stylesheets, but I did try creating the PDF from the original docbook article. I tried the nwalsh stylesheet and also docbook2pdf. They were ok, but the images were scaled and looked just wrong with the nwalsh stylesheet and they just didn't appear on the docbook2pdf output. I'd like to play10:45
dpmwith the resulting PDF to understand what can be changed - what did you use to generate your draft PDF?10:45
jenkinsI converted the docbook to latex, then played with the scaling10:46
jenkinsdpm: if you look in the branch there is a *.tex file which has all the styles etc in10:49
dpmjenkins, yeah, I saw the file, but I wasn't too sure how it was exactly used. So how do you do the conversion to latex and then to PDF?10:50
jenkinsI used dblatex but did a lot of minor tweeks, you need to install latex from the manual team ppa as per http://freakaboutlinux.wordpress.com/2010/06/15/tip-using-the-ubuntu-manual-projects-ppa/ . you then need to run two commands which i will look up10:53
jenkinsxindy -C utf8 -M texindy -L english ubuntu-translations-quickstart.idx10:53
jenkinsxelatex ubuntu-translations-quickstart.tex10:54
jenkinsthat will build the pdf file10:54
dpmawesome, I'll try that, thanks.10:54
jenkinsno worries shout if you need some help10:55
dpmjenkins, so why does latex need to be installed from the PPA? is that a post-Lucid upstream version with bug fixes or new features, or modified by the manual team?10:57
jenkinsdpm: it is a version newer than lucid, I have not tried but you could try just installing the xindy, xindy-rules and cciocns  packages from the ppa and stick with the lucid stuff.10:58
dpmok, thanks, I'll try to play with it10:58
dakerhello14:33
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trijntjeHi, I recently noticed that the ubuntu-manual can be translated to dutch with open permissions. The ubuntu dutch translation team has been working on the manual for quite some time, so we were wondering if the permissions could be changed to "structured" to make sure our work is preserved19:19
jenkinstrijntje: I don't see why you can not change it there was a discussion on the mailing list about 6 months back, about it i will see if i can find it19:28
jenkinstrijntje: I checked the e-mail and feel free we decided people could change to structured if they wished19:32
trijntjejenkins, thanks a lot for the information, ill send a mail to our team leader19:34
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