[00:54] <pahindr> yo
[00:54] <pahindr> any1 alive?
[00:55] <pahindr> i see....
[01:00] <knome> what do you see?
[04:58] <Catwoman> Can anyone tell me of a good dock that will integrate well with Xubuntu?
[07:00] <Catwoman> Does anyone know of a good xfce friendly dock for xubuntu?
[08:00] <Coke> Hello. I'm downloading xubuntu now and I have a few question, they're a bit noobish, but it is my first time with any ubuntu derivative at all.
[08:01] <Coke> 1) does all the mime types work in the browser and e-mail program?  2) is it very hard to do upgrades between the major releases?
[08:13] <knome> 1) yes, there shouldn't be any glitches. 2) no, it's actually more straightforward you ever could imagine
[08:13] <knome> Coke, ^
[08:13] <Coke> Awesome.
[08:14] <Coke> How almost nobody distributes their system as regular image?
[08:14] <Coke> It's so impractical since CD/DVD is a deprecated technology compared to USB sticks.
[08:14] <knome> by regular image you mean what?
[08:15] <Coke> basic dd to stick
[08:15] <knome> in ubuntu, there is usb-creator
[08:15] <Coke> just a raw image copy
[08:16] <Coke> yeah, but someone takes the raw image copy, converts it into ISO 9660 standard only to have it converted back to an image again with that.
[08:17] <Coke> I've used unetbootin in the past, I hope it does the trick here.
[08:17] <knome> should be no problem.
[08:18] <Coke> knome: there ws
[08:18] <knome> really?
[08:19] <Coke> yes, a bug in the unetbootin
[08:19] <Coke> but it's easily workable
[08:19] <Coke> but it's exactly the reason why I don't bother with GUI apps usually, sub par quality most of the time compared to solid cli stuff.
[08:19] <knome> too bad to hear about that bug. have you reported it?
[08:20] <Coke> no, I don't like unetbootin enough. :)
[08:20] <Coke> nor do I use it very often, this is an experiment to see if we can get xubuntu to be appreciated by former windows users
[08:20] <knome> well, you seem to like xubuntu enough to install it, and if you need unetbootin to fo that, i'd really think you should file.
[08:20] <knome> -'d
[08:21] <Coke> "bug: unetbootin should just be a cli command" :)
[08:21] <knome> more like "wishlist: add cli interface for unetbootin"
[08:21] <Coke> for instance, why does it need a mounted USB stick??
[08:21] <Coke> dd doesnt
[08:21] <knome> well, that's something i'm not able to answer ;)
[08:22] <knome> dd does eventually need to mount the stick also, so i don't see no big difference there
[08:22] <Coke> knome: no it does not
[08:22] <Coke> it will however boot shortly thereafter and mount itself
[08:22] <Coke> but I don't have to know about that
[08:23] <Coke> the nice thing with a image that you can dd is that the filesystem is already in it.
[08:23] <knome> anyway, i'm heavily suggesting to file the bug even if you don't care about unetbootin. let's leave the channel for possible new support requests now
[08:23] <Coke> knome: what should I be using then?
[08:24] <knome> Coke, for filing?
[08:24] <Coke> because I think 99% of everybody who downloads the ISO converts it to USB anyway.
[08:24] <Coke> no
[08:24] <Coke> for putting it on a bootable USB. all the systems I normally use already have image files to download.
[08:24] <knome> that is most probably incorrect.
[08:24] <Coke> I just googled for unetbootin
[08:24] <Coke> I don't have a preference.
[08:25] <knome> unetbootin is the way i assume if you're not running a ubuntu system already.
[08:25] <Coke> If there's a better alternative I'll switch
[08:25] <Coke> No, sorry, no ubuntus here.
[08:25] <Coke> got a few legacy Debian's around, but that probably won't help.
[08:26] <knome> nope.
[08:28] <Coke> So you think people still use CD?
[08:28] <knome> yes, pretty much.
[08:28] <Coke> Bought CD's?
[08:28] <knome> but as i said, let's leave the channel for support requests
[08:29] <Coke> Like official Xubuntu's? If so, I'd be interrested.
[08:29] <Coke> (like the slackware walnut creek cd's back in the days)
[08:29] <knome> Coke, the most "official" cd's are discs shipped by on-disk.com in agreement with the xubuntu developer community
[08:30] <Coke> Do they get any percentage from that?
[08:30] <knome> Coke, http://on-disk.com/cms/index.php?wiki=Quick_Ship_Free_Disc_Service for more on that (select usa/worldwide and you'll get along)
[08:31] <Coke> Wow!
[08:31] <knome> Coke, there's no way to be asking money for a linux distro on a cd except shipping and reasonable burning/handling costs - no, either on-disk.com or xubuntu developers do not make any money out of it.
[08:31] <Coke> They even have memory sticks with Xubuntu on them
[08:32] <Coke> http://on-disk.com/product_info.php/products_id/1013  <- this is awesome
[08:32] <Coke> most of our machines don't even have optical media any mroe
[08:36] <Coke> bulk 100pcs at 50% discount! hm.
[08:42] <Coke> bootin Xubuntu...
[12:35] <Teedev> hi everybody!
[12:50] <Teedev> why thunar can't support tab?
[12:56] <TheSheep> design decision
[12:56] <TheSheep> there are other file managers that have tabs
[12:56] <TheSheep> like pcman
[12:59] <Teedev> krub :D
[13:14] <nicofs> i need help controlling my cpu/fan speed. i can't seem to set that manually... i installt governor and (after that) powernowd - both don't work...
[14:25] <slow-motion> hi
[14:41] <mAritz> hey, i have an ssd with a single ntfs partition on it that wasn't unlocked safely. everytime i try to start xubuntu from a livecd (usb stick actually) it says "The file system wasn't safely closed on Windows. Fixing." for 3-4 times and then just hangs. if i unplug the ssd, everything works fine and xubuntu starts. can i somehow disable the drive check for the ssd? because apparently i need to unlock the ntfs system manually.
[16:49] <charlie-tca> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek starting in 12 minutes in #ubuntu-classroom
[16:54] <edakiri> Are other people having problems with their mouse clicks in the past week?
[16:55] <charlie-tca> What kind of problems? I seem to have issues with claws-mail freezing on some accounts
[16:57] <edakiri> I'm not having any (new) problems with claws.  I have only seen freezing when the network link goes down.
[16:57] <edakiri> Mouse click problems like when i click to open a menu, the menu closes prematurely
[16:57] <edakiri> or a click is not registered
[17:21] <edakiri> charlie-tca: when claws freezes, you can check if it has sockets open with netstat
[17:22] <charlie-tca> It should not be freezing, since the folder causing the freeze is a local folder on my system
[18:05] <martin17> ciao
[18:08] <martin17> ciao a tutti
[18:08] <Sysi> !it
[18:10] <xubuntu678> hello
[19:17] <slow-motion> hi
[23:01] <pteague> is there some way to restart alsa?
[23:02] <pteague> ok, maybe that isn't it... seems flash player is borked