Quintasanapachelogger: argh00:32
Quintasanhow come debug libs are only 1,2 kbyte?00:32
QuintasanWhy did LP disable stripping on PPA Build?00:35
yofelonly dbgsym creation is disabled, you can build a -dbg package with manual dh_strip ...00:36
yofelI mean auto-generation of debug symbols00:36
Quintasandh_strip --dbg-package=project-neon-qt-dbg00:37
yofel*auto generation of debug symbol packages00:37
QuintasanI'm doing it like this00:37
yofelthen it should work, at least it works for me00:37
Quintasandh_strip debug symbol extraction: disabling for PPA build00:37
Quintasandh_strip debug symbol extraction: not doing anything since NO_PKG_MANGLE is given00:37
yofelI *think* that comes from the pkg-create-dbgsym package that usually takes care of building -dbgsym packages in the buildds but is disabled on PPA buildds00:38
yofellet me check one of my build logs00:38
yofelyep (I build filezilla svn snapshots here):00:40
yofeldh_strip --dbg-package=filezilla-dbg00:40
yofeldh_strip debug symbol extraction: disabling for PPA build00:40
yofeldh_strip debug symbol extraction: not doing anything since NO_PKG_MANGLE is given00:40
yofelthe filezilla-dbg package is built fine00:40
Quintasanyeah, but it contains nothing00:40
yofelnot here: https://edge.launchpad.net/~yofel/+archive/ppa/+build/181132500:41
Quintasanit generates nothing here00:42
yofelindeed, the .deb is empty...00:47
ScottKrbelem: I think lex79 packaged it.  I'd ask him when he's around.00:48
Quintasanyofel: I'll try using dh_strip.pkg-create-dbgsym00:49
rbelemScottK, ok, thanks :-)00:50
rbelemScottK, i need that to build kdm outside kdebase-workspace00:51
ScottKAnd it's still in the source then?00:51
ScottKIt may be inadvertent.00:51
ScottKI'd rather ask him to make sure.00:51
rbelemScottK, yep! it still in the source00:52
rbelemScottK, and i think that it would be nice to have kdebase-workspace-4.4.92/libs/ files being installed by kdebase-workspace-dev or by a new dev package01:07
jjesseeveryone having fun today?01:14
ScottKjjesse: Did you see my answer to your blog post question?01:17
jjesseScottK yes i did01:19
jjessejust need to make the change :)01:19
ScottKjjesse: I had to figure out that same question last week ...01:19
ScottKjjesse: Want me to make it for you?01:19
jjessei think jcastro told me once01:19
jjesseactually could you01:19
ScottK(it's easy enough)01:20
jjessemy ubuntu vm isn't running right now01:20
ScottKjjesse: Done.01:23
jjessethank you ser01:23
ScottKAFAIK it's not retroactive though.01:24
jjessei don't think it is01:25
jjesseno worries01:25
jjessethanks for making the change01:25
ScottKNo problem.  You're welcome.01:26
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MrDarkUserHi, is anybody working on project neon?02:50
MrDarkUseror have best practices for setting up a build enviornment?03:03
ScottKMrDarkUser: I think Quintasan is your man.03:15
valoriequoting from bash: [13:30] <Quintasan> [07:51:29] sheytan: well, I will need testers for Project Neon soon03:16
MrDarkUserQuintasan, I'm willing to be a fresh dumb new user of neon on 10.04 if I can help03:30
bilalakhtardholbach: I have a help request. Could you please examine why https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/krename/4.0.4-2ubuntu1/+build/1864396 is repeatedly failing?08:13
bilalakhtar^^ is for everyone08:13
bilalakhtarI have a help request. Could someone please examine why https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/krename/4.0.4-2ubuntu1/+build/1864396 is repeatedly failing?08:23
valoriebilalakhtar: have you filed a bug?08:25
bilalakhtarvalorie: where?08:27
bilalakhtarvalorie: I was the one who got the package uploaded08:27
=== hrw|gone is now known as hrw
bilalakhtarI have a help request. Could someone please examine why https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/krename/4.0.4-2ubuntu1/+build/1864396 is repeatedly failing?08:46
valoriebilalakhtar: it will not help to repeat yourself08:48
valorieif they are asleep, they are asleep08:48
jussibilalakhtar: The following packages have unmet dependencies:08:57
jussi  kdelibs5-dev: Depends: kdoctools (= 4:4.4.90-0ubuntu3) but it is not going to be installed08:57
jussisounds like somethings not built/something else has failed to build to me.08:58
apacheloggerQuintasan: wrong override?10:33
yofelapachelogger: why is it wrong?10:43
apacheloggerjust a guess10:46
* apachelogger is having a KDE day, so he will not look at the log :P10:46
Riddellyo, apachelogger 10:47
RiddellI think half term evaluations are this week10:47
apacheloggeralways these evaluations10:47
Riddellare you able to send me a summary of what you've done and what you're going to do and how I should test it and evaluate progress?10:47
Riddellpreferably today :)10:48
apacheloggerRiddell: should be in by 14 UTC10:51
* apachelogger is sort of tied up in his own ruby madness right now :S10:51
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Riddellhi muesli 11:33
mueslihey :)11:33
apacheloggermuesli \o/11:34
* apachelogger hugs muesli and while he is at it the whole channel11:35
Riddellthat's a big hug!11:35
muesliapachelogger: that's a warm fuzzy welcome :-)11:36
* davmor2 feels sorry for the ones in the middle getting squished11:38
apacheloggermuesli: then I did something wrong, it was meant to be fluffy ;)11:39
apacheloggerhttp://fluffy.jussi01.com/ 11:39
muesliapachelogger: jeez, i tried to find an iso latel11:40
mueslibut i've been told there isn't really one yet11:40
apacheloggerwell there is11:40
mueslipoor konqui looks like on lsd on that page ;)11:40
muesliapachelogger: got a link? :)11:40
mueslinice, 4mb/s11:42
apacheloggersandsmark is running a nice swarm ;)11:44
apacheloggerOH MY GOD!!!11:45
apacheloggerNightrose: I got an A on the knowledge management course11:45
Riddellwhere did you put all you knowledge to keep it managed?11:45
apacheloggera semantic wiki ^^11:46
Riddellqt-assistant-compat passed new, someone needs to get the rdepends built against it11:46
Riddellfabo: why do you say "Qt Multimedia is now shipped from Qt Mobility API instead of Qt." when the multimedia bits are all commented out in your qtmobility packaging?11:53
MamarokRiddell: because it's not ready?11:55
RiddellMamarok: well that didn't stop them shipping it with qt 4.6 :)11:57
MamarokRiddell: there still is not much more available in 4.7 AFAICS11:57
Riddellfabo: why the change of binary name?  libqt4-webkit -> libqtwebkit4 ?11:57
Riddellfabo: hmm, you just made qtmobility build-dep on qtwebkit?  what's that for?   qtwebkit will need to build-dep on qtmobility for multimedia in HTML5 support12:01
faboRiddell: it is commented because I don't have Qt 4.7 without multimedia at that time12:07
faboRiddell: next upload, multimediakit is shipped12:08
Riddellyeah, just saw that commit you did12:08
faboif you build Qt + multimedia -> Qt Mobility don't want to build mmkit12:08
faboQt - multimedia -> Qt Mobility builds with mmkit12:09
faboRiddell: for the binary name, Qt doesn't follow library package name12:09
faboit's a long standing issue12:10
fabowith qtwebkit, I could smoothly split that way12:10
fabo libqt4-webkit is now a dummy package12:11
faboRiddell: now, we should resolve the latest issue12:12
Riddellfabo: what's the latest issue?12:12
fabomisread then -> qtwebkit will need to build-dep on qtmobility 12:14
Riddellfabo: looking at current qtwebkit it has gone back to using phonon12:14
Riddell"# We require phonon. QtMultimedia support is disabled currently."  says WebCore/WebCore.pro12:15
Riddellbut that might change at some point12:15
faboyes, simon tells me some weeks ago they aren't ready to use Qt multimedia12:15
Riddellfabo: why does qtmobility need qtwebkit?12:15
faboRiddell: only for fetchgooglemaps example ;)12:16
Riddell  * Fix FTBFS with Ubuntu's Qt 4.7 packages:12:16
Riddell    - Drop usr/bin/fetchgooglemaps from debian/qtmobility-examples.install12:16
Riddellthat's in our qtmobility ^^12:17
Riddellprobably that's because our qtwebkit is already separated12:17
fabobecause of the missing b-d on qtwebkit dev12:17
fabothat's a choice12:17
Riddellsilly upstream and their circular dependencies12:18
faboI guess dropping the example + b-d is the preferred way12:18
Riddellso main problem for ubuntu is how to sync qtwebkit when we already have a larger version number.  don't fancy raising your epoch to 5 do you fabo? :)12:20
fabolet me take a look at current Ubuntu packages and try to find a smooth way to resync12:21
apacheloggerRiddell: mail sent12:22
eMyllerheys guys12:22
Riddellwe're on 4:4.7.0~beta2-0ubuntu1, I don't think there's any very elegant way to resync12:22
Riddellhi eMyller 12:22
eMyllerspeaking of qtwebkit, does anyone know why it's doesn't support quite well some css3 stuff?12:22
eMyllerlike border-radius, etc. i wanted to know if it's up to webkit itself or the qt version only12:23
faboeMyller: report bug 12:23
Riddellnot I, you'd need to ask upstream12:23
faboeMyller: try to use another webkit implementation to check if it is qtwebkit specific12:24
apacheloggerRiddell: well, since our binary name differs from a deb POV we should be able to sync current debian package ;)12:24
faboie chrome12:24
Riddellapachelogger: but the source is the same12:24
eMyllerfabo: chrome's and qt's webkit version are the same12:24
apacheloggerrename the source ;)12:24
eMyllerbut chrome shows everything smoothly12:24
faboeMyller: no ;)12:25
faboso it could be a Qt WebKit bug12:25
eMyllerfabo: no @ implementation?12:25
faboeMyller: yeah, they differ12:26
eMylleri see; but well, qtwebkit always had problems *here*. will report a bug. thanks :)12:26
faboeMyller: http://webkit.org/new-qtwebkit-bug12:28
eMyllerfabo: isn't it specific to qt's implementation?12:28
faboeMyller: you talk about the link ? yes12:29
faboeMyller: is your css3 available ?12:30
eMyllerfabo: will post a screenshot showing a -webkit-border-radius12:31
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: bug 443210 did you tell mvo?12:32
ubottuLaunchpad bug 443210 in kdegames (Ubuntu) "bomber 48px PNG image is actually a Krita document" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44321012:32
faboeMyller: if you need guideline and advice, you're welcome on webkit-qt@lists.webkit.org12:33
faboeMyller: the mailing list is active12:34
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: forgot there was a downstream bug :D12:39
Nightroseapachelogger: wohoooo12:52
eMyllerfabo: thank you :) here's my report: https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42156 -- please check the screenshot12:55
ubottubugs.webkit.org bug 42156 in WebKit Qt "Qt WebKit doesn't play nice with some CSS3 rendering" [Major,Unconfirmed]12:55
* Riddell does the empty new queue dance12:59
jussiRiddell: nice work!13:01
faboRiddell: wanna help ftp-masters ? ;)13:02
* Riddell ponders this for a nanosecond13:04
Riddellfabo: sorry, no :)13:04
rgreeningmorning peeps13:11
fabomorning rgreening13:20
rgreeninghey fabo13:21
shadeslayerCan anyone tell me what SixXS is?13:23
* shadeslayer has no idea :S13:23
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JontheEchidnaRiddell: Hi, are syncs on your todo list today?13:59
RiddellJontheEchidna: yes indeed, any requests?13:59
JontheEchidnaRiddell: bug 602388 and bug 602383, please13:59
ubottuLaunchpad bug 602388 in kvirc (Ubuntu) "Sync kvirc 4:4.0.0-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/60238813:59
ubottuLaunchpad bug 602383 in komparator (Ubuntu) "Sync komparator 1:0.3-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/60238313:59
JontheEchidnaone is a kde3 -> kde4 bump :)14:00
rgreeningapachelogger: if you are around need some assit with getting your ubuntuone client working... I cant seem to connect.14:00
apacheloggerrgreening: logged out and back in again?14:01
JontheEchidnaRiddell: oh, also kdenlive could use syncing. Should I file a bug for that?14:01
rgreeningI restarted the client, if thats what you mean14:01
rgreeningapachelogger: ^14:01
apacheloggerno, I mean logout and back in again :P14:01
rgreeningout of the ubuntuone service or the desktop14:01
rgreeningapachelogger: ^14:02
apacheloggerthere is all sorts of junk running that will not be terminated when you restart the client ;)14:02
rgreeningok. Illl try. why should that happen?14:02
apacheloggerclient == the software :)14:02
apacheloggerrgreening: well, it is like kdelibs changed ;)14:03
apacheloggerNightrose: Archive.rb  TarArchive.rb  XZArchive.rb14:03
shadeslayerapachelogger: whats the address for ktown>14:04
apacheloggerNightrose: any guesses as to what those 3 files could become? 14:04
shadeslayerfor ssh access14:04
apacheloggerkubotu: lookup ktown.kde.org14:04
apacheloggerkubotu: nslookup ktown.kde.org14:04
apacheloggerkubotu: didn you have a lookup at some point?14:04
apacheloggershadeslayer: ssh login is not permitted14:04
shadeslayerapachelogger: then? 14:04
apacheloggeronly sftp14:04
shadeslayerapachelogger: 0_o14:04
shadeslayerapachelogger: Permission denied (publickey).14:05
apacheloggerwrong user?14:05
shadeslayerapachelogger: ftpubuntu@ktown.kde.org14:05
rgreeningapachelogger: so, logout and login and still no go. Could be a firewall issue. What ports do I need open?14:06
shadeslayerwell.... ill just use kde ftp then14:06
apacheloggerrgreening: I have no idea14:07
apacheloggerrgreening: you can run ubuntuone-statusnotifier from a terminal to get more status output14:07
JontheEchidnawow, install-package never was able to let you cancel during download :s14:07
apacheloggerit could very well be that something is wrong with authentication14:07
JontheEchidnaqapt-batch will be a nice step up :)14:08
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: it sure was at some point, it just was not instant14:08
apacheloggerit stuffed the cancel in the eventqueue and since that was filled up with redrawing and text adding and whatnot...14:08
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: ohm, therw as a button, wasnt there?14:09
apacheloggerin either case you can close :P14:09
* apachelogger hates cancel buttons anyway14:09
JontheEchidnaI think that apt will still run in the background if you close...14:09
apacheloggerin the case of install-package use they only make sense if a rollback gets executed!14:09
shadeslayerapachelogger: what happened to all the pinkiness?14:09
JontheEchidnaoh, maybe not, w/e14:09
apacheloggershadeslayer: whut?14:10
jefferaiapachelogger: ping14:10
shadeslayerthats JontheEchidna's desktop :D14:10
apacheloggerjefferai: pong14:10
jefferaido you build amarok from git?14:10
jefferaior, can you?14:10
apacheloggerI can14:10
apacheloggerwel, in tehroy I can14:10
shadeslayerjefferai: oh oh .. problem with /query in quassel fixed14:10
jefferaishadeslayer: yeah?14:10
shadeslayerjefferai: yeah i had a outdated client.. running latest git build now14:11
jefferaioutdated client shouldn't crash the core14:11
jefferaiI say shouldn't in the software engineering sense14:11
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: I think we should use qapt-batch, at least for kubuntu-debug-installer. The kpackagekit dependency causes kdebase-runtime to effectively depend on it in most normal usecases14:11
shadeslayerjefferai: seems it does14:11
jefferainot in the specifically-this-sense14:11
shadeslayerjefferai: http://imagebin.ca/view/7AxD6s9.html14:11
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: that was my plan14:11
shadeslayersee the 2nd last line14:11
apacheloggerin fact I was wondering about just using libqapt directly :P14:12
jefferaishadeslayer: I believe you14:12
jefferaiI'm just larting Sput is all14:12
* shadeslayer is done with ninja notes in 3 lines :S14:12
shadeslayerright :)14:13
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: Well, using the backend class would mean using ~20 MB of heap for storing the internal package cache, so one would most likely want to use the dbus interface to the worker, straight to avoid that.14:13
rgreeningapachelogger: The name com.ubuntuone.SyncDaemon was not provided by any .service14:13
alshadeslayer: sixxs is an ipv6 tunnel broker14:13
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: silly backend :P14:13
apacheloggerrgreening: probably a fooey dep 14:13
shadeslayeral: so i can use IPv6?14:13
algets ipv6 connectivity to your ipv4 endpoint14:13
shadeslayeral: kewl.. i have to make a new tunnel tho,right?14:14
alshadeslayer: yes14:14
apacheloggerrgreening: install ubuntuone-client14:14
shadeslayeral: well... it doesnt work :P14:14
alshadeslayer: what doesn't?14:14
shadeslayerso i opened a ticket14:14
shadeslayeral: making a new tunnel14:14
alshadeslayer: "No PoPs are available at the moment" that one?14:15
apacheloggermakes all sorts of sense14:15
apacheloggerrgreening: install libubuntuone-qt-api014:15
shadeslayeral: yes :S14:15
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: I did decrease backend mem usage by 4.5 MiB by making QApt::Package not a QObject. (Heap cost for all the packages went down from 5 MiB to 0.5 MiB)14:15
shadeslayeral: https://www.sixxs.net/tickets/?msg=tickets-231598514:15
alshadeslayer: "handle" means your login14:16
JontheEchidnait seems that even an overhead of 120 KiB per QObject is a lot at 30,000 objects :P14:16
jefferaiapachelogger: anyways -- I made a change in Amarok's cmake files to use the output of mysql_config instead of randomly searching for libraries14:16
jefferaiwhich in theory is a much, much better thing to do14:16
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: one would think so14:16
jefferaiin practice, however, it's causing build failures for *buntu folks14:16
apacheloggerkubuntu does not ship mysql_config14:16
apacheloggerjefferai: I would check if that beasty is around and if not try randomly searching14:17
shadeslayeral: done :D14:17
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: most of the RAM requirements comes from apt MMap'ing /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin, which is like 14 MiB itself14:17
jefferaiapachelogger: um14:17
jefferaiapachelogger: that's exactly what we do14:18
shadeslayerQuintasan: neon poke14:18
jefferaiexcept for those users that *do* have mysql_config14:18
apacheloggerOh? Oo14:18
apacheloggeroh dear oh dear14:18
jefferaisay, because they're building things against it14:18
jefferaithen it has problems14:18
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: seems the stuff i pointed out about those error messages is in akonadi too :S14:19
shadeslayerwhen imap gets disconnected i get .. 10 error dialogs :P14:19
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: you should write an akonadi resource and store that stuff in akonadi :D14:20
jefferaiapachelogger: yeah, something is going wrong14:20
jefferaiwhich I believe may be due to the lack of -fPIC in --cflags14:20
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: qaptworker logging to akonadi? :D14:20
shadeslayerapachelogger: also seems that you cannot launch akonadi with krunner :P14:20
shadeslayeronly through desktop launcher14:20
apacheloggerjefferai: I believe we have a seperate package for fpic enabled embedded server14:21
apachelogger!info libmysqld-pic14:21
ubottulibmysqld-pic (source: mysql-dfsg-5.1): MySQL database development files. In component main, is optional. Version 5.1.41-3ubuntu12.3 (lucid), package size 4151 kB, installed size 12864 kB14:21
jefferaiapachelogger: ok, so here's what I think is going on14:22
jefferaiyou guys have this separate fpic enabled server14:22
jefferaibut mysql_config doesn't have -fPIC in its CFLAGS14:22
jefferaiso there's a mismatch14:22
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: I spcifically try to get muon to sort by name in a search14:24
shadeslayerMamarok: around?14:24
jefferaidebian appears to not have a separate fpic package14:25
jefferaithis appears to be a uniquely *buntu problem14:25
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: and that threshold is also cracking me up14:25
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: libc6-pic gets shown for a "pic" search but libmysqld-pic is not14:25
alshadeslayer: alternatively you could try a different tunnel broker (maybe http://ipv6.he.net) or check if your ISP supports 6to4 / teredo14:26
apacheloggerif stuff tries to be smarter than me then it actually should be smarter 99% of the time14:26
apacheloggermuon did not manage once!14:26
shadeslayeral: im quite confident my ISP doesnt have ipv6 :D14:26
jefferaishadeslayer: that's what a tunnel broker is for14:26
apacheloggerjefferai: you should throw stones at people in #ubuntu-server14:26
alshadeslayer: can you ping
yofellibmysqld-pic is in debian..14:27
shadeslayeral: nope...14:27
jefferaiyofel: http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=libmysqld-pic&searchon=names&suite=stable&section=all14:27
apacheloggerthat is stable!14:27
shadeslayeral: 17 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 16035ms14:27
apacheloggerstable is 15 years old :P14:27
yofeljefferai: http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=libmysqld-pic&searchon=names&suite=testing&section=all14:27
Mamarokhee I am14:28
apacheloggerjefferai: http://packages.debian.org/search?suite=sid&searchon=names&keywords=libmysqld-pic14:28
jefferaiyeah, got it14:28
jefferaioh, debian14:28
jefferaimaking things difficult yet again14:28
alshadeslayer: you're right then ;)14:28
Mamarokjefferai: told you, it was Debian and Kubuntu14:28
shadeslayeral: :P14:28
txwikingerIs there a way I can control on which desktop apps that are started from commandline or a script are appearing? 14:29
jefferaiMamarok: their package search has bad defaults  :-(14:29
jefferaiand their packages are demonstrably broken14:29
apacheloggerjefferai: well, I would poke zul in #ubuntu-server for starters, he sure can get stuff resolved in debian and ubuntu14:29
apacheloggerlatter for sure14:29
jefferaiok, I'll try14:29
Mamarokjefferai: do you need me there, too?14:30
jefferainot for now14:30
jefferaiwill let you know if I do14:30
MamarokOK, just ping, I need to get my laundry out of the machine14:30
Mamarokback in a few14:30
jefferaiMamarok: ok -- and, did turning off the embedded libs fix things for you?14:31
CIA-33[ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100713133146-td85hy34dqizytzj * debian/ (changelog control) Make ubuntuone-kde depend on libubuntuone-qt-api014:31
* shadeslayer fights with lintian14:33
shadeslayerE: kdepim source: weak-library-dev-dependency kdepim-dev on libeventviews4 (>= ${source:Version})14:34
shadeslayerE: kdepim source: weak-library-dev-dependency kdepim-dev on libkdepim4 (>= ${binary:Version})14:34
shadeslayernow.. what to do :P14:35
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: so I seem to remember you having scripts to do extragear-ish release-type thingies. I'm thinking of doing a second alpha for libqapt/muon, would these tools be of use to me?14:39
apacheloggeremit yawn();14:39
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: fortunately for you I am hacking on those very scripts right now ;)14:39
apacheloggerin fact I am rewriting using proper OOP ;)14:39
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: need libqapt too?14:40
JontheEchidnaI was planning on doing a prerelease of both, yeah14:40
JontheEchidnaAlso, what is a polite amount of time to give l10n dudes to translate before release? (e.g. length between string freeze and release)14:41
apacheloggerone month14:41
JontheEchidnakk, that means I need to do it soon if I want to get something out for maverick, since FF is going to be more strict for 10.1014:41
JontheEchidnaand also feature freeze, for that matter14:42
JontheEchidnabut I am fairly happy with the feature set of both muon and synaptic at the moment. It can do most everything synaptic does except version pinning14:43
rgreeningapachelogger: it's using the ubuntuone-client 1.2.2 from archive. which may be different from the PPA one. is that a problem?14:43
apacheloggeryes, will not work14:45
apacheloggersince when do they have 1.2.2 in the archive?14:45
apacheloggerrgreening: are you on maverick?14:46
rgreeningno. lucid14:46
apacheloggerwhere is that 1.2.2 coming from?14:46
apacheloggerI only see      1.2.1-0ubuntu314:46
rgreeningapachelogger: login to your PPA and it says.. newer available14:47
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: so the 15th is one month away from ubuntu feature freeze. I'll do a release today, with uber-quick string review and will announce feature/string freeze on the 15th. I'll do beta on the 29th, RC on the 5th, final release on the 12th14:47
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: sound sane?14:47
apacheloggerthink so14:47
JontheEchidnaoh, crap. I forgot about my dentist's appointment this morning :s14:48
apacheloggerrgreening: oh, proposed!14:48
JontheEchidnagotta go, my ride is waiting14:48
apacheloggero/ JontheEchidna14:48
rgreeningapachelogger: also.. Unpacking libubuntuone-qt-api0 (from .../libubuntuone-qt-api0_0.0.0~alpha1+1-0ubuntu0~lucid0~ppa1_amd64.deb) ...14:48
rgreeningdpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libubuntuone-qt-api0_0.0.0~alpha1+1-0ubuntu0~lucid0~ppa1_amd64.deb (--unpack):14:48
rgreening trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/libubuntuone-qt-api.so.0.0.0', which is also in package ubuntuone-kde 0:0.0.0~alpha1+1-0ubuntu0~lucid0~ppa114:48
rgreeningErrors were encountered while processing:14:48
rgreening /var/cache/apt/archives/libubuntuone-qt-api0_0.0.0~alpha1+1-0ubuntu0~lucid0~ppa1_amd64.deb14:48
rgreeningE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)14:48
CIA-33[ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100713135017-ayfh68hiqy9wznby * debian/ (changelog ubuntuone-kde.install) Only install lib*kde*.so.*.* into ubuntuone-kde14:50
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: can you help me out a bit?14:50
shadeslayerhttp://pastebin.com/zMARwfx8 << does that control file look ok? ( specifically kdepim-dev )14:51
apacheloggerlibeventviews4 (= ${binary:Version} not good14:53
apacheloggerneither is libkdepim4 (= ${binary:Version})14:53
shadeslayerapachelogger: but lintian compaints14:53
shadeslayerapachelogger: the error is weak-library-dev-dependency14:53
shadeslayeron either of those two files14:54
apacheloggerand now it would complain about strong-library-dev-dependency14:54
shadeslayerapachelogger: leave it then?14:54
apacheloggerof course lintian is not sane enough to do that14:54
shadeslayerapachelogger: it doesnt :S14:54
apacheloggershadeslayer: no, use appropriate dependency14:54
shadeslayerapachelogger: ok..14:54
apacheloggerwhat differs the other dependencies listed for kdepim-dev from those two?14:54
apacheloggerif you can answer that you will know what it should look like14:54
shadeslayerapachelogger: ok.. im looking :)14:55
rgreeningapachelogger: you building these updates in your PPA so I can test? Also the newer ubuntuone-client? Seems the old 1.2.1 will not work as I have pythin 2.6 and it balks at "as" reserved keyword.14:56
apacheloggerrgreening: uninstall python2.514:56
apacheloggerScottK: ^14:56
apacheloggerrgreening: yeah, building the updates14:56
ScottKapachelogger: Your package shouldn't do anything with 2.5 even if it's installed.14:57
* apachelogger also wants to note that ruby can map exceptions to variables since like forever and not just some recent version :P14:58
rgreeningIts a ubuntuone-client issue in 1.2.114:58
apacheloggerScottK: tell that to ubuntuone-client :P14:58
rgreening(so it seems ot me)14:58
apacheloggerrgreening: from my patch14:58
rgreeningoh well then.. fix it :)14:58
apacheloggerI am catching an exception using "catch Exception as e"14:59
apacheloggerrgreening: it is valid for 2.6 :P14:59
ScottKapachelogger: Someone who cares about ubuntuone should fix it.14:59
apacheloggernot my fault that python is python--14:59
shadeslayerapachelogger: all other libs dont have (>= ${binary:Version}) ?14:59
rgreeningapachelogger: no, I remove python 2.5 and it complains14:59
apacheloggershadeslayer: you do not have (>= ${binary:Version})?!14:59
apacheloggeryou have (= ${binary:Version})14:59
rgreeninghmm.. let me purge14:59
apacheloggerwhich is by no means the same thing14:59
apacheloggerrgreening: when I removed python it installed fine15:00
shadeslayerapachelogger: no,i changed it to (>= ${binary:Version}) and it complains aboutweak-library-dev-dependency15:00
* apachelogger probably should make his u1-client branch replace&conflict python2.515:00
apacheloggershadeslayer: whut?15:01
apacheloggeris this thing mad or something :O15:01
apacheloggershadeslayer: you have permission to ignore those 15:01
shadeslayerapachelogger: http://pastebin.com/5yBf631f << new control file15:01
shadeslayerapachelogger: lintian complains : http://pastebin.com/cfxxvf0b15:01
shadeslayerapachelogger: altho.. ?15:02
apacheloggershadeslayer: use =15:03
shadeslayerapachelogger: :S15:03
rgreeningapachelogger: are you uploading a newer ubuntuone-client for the kwallet3 stuff? or is that necessary?15:03
shadeslayerok.. then15:03
apacheloggerrgreening: not planning on doing that now ... did you purge python 2.5?15:04
apacheloggeralso libpython2.5 or what it is called15:04
rgreeningso, does it require the 1.2.1 or will 1.2.2 from archive break it?15:04
apacheloggerit requires 1.2.115:05
apachelogger1.2.2 does not support kwallet15:05
rgreeningapachelogger: ok. will test... 1 sec15:07
shadeslayerlp moves login stuff to  left? http://imagebin.ca/view/2XZNK0.html15:07
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: muon is currently translated in 10 languages15:07
apacheloggeraverage completion 46%15:07
apacheloggeronly uk and pt are 100%15:07
* apachelogger loves his release script15:08
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~apachelogger/+junk/release-script-refactor/revision/8415:09
shadeslayersheytan: hey :)15:12
sheytanshadeslayer hi there ;)15:12
Quintasanshadeslayer: watch for ut internetz15:14
shadeslayerQuintasan: hey 15:14
shadeslayerQuintasan: its good .. wont get flooded .. no rains :P15:14
shadeslayerkubotu: weather Gurgaon,India15:14
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jefferaiapachelogger: Riddell: any idea how to work around this PIC problem in the meantime?15:16
shadeslayerQuintasan: hows neon going?15:18
shadeslayerneed help?15:18
yofelshadeslayer: -dbg package is empty15:19
Riddelljefferai: I haven't been following the issue and I'm probably too busy to do so immediately15:19
yofelQuintasan: or did you get that fixed?15:19
shadeslayeryofel: in?15:19
jefferaiRiddell: how dare you not follow it15:20
apacheloggerjefferai: no idea really15:21
jefferaiapachelogger: only thing I can think of is to check for 64-bit environment, and if so, force -fPIC in MYSQL_CFLAGS15:21
jefferaium, but only for the embedded side of things15:21
jefferaiof course, this would be easier if cmake had a way to tell this15:22
shadeslayerkdepim for lucid away15:31
Riddellshadeslayer: away where?15:31
shadeslayerRiddell: in ninja ppa15:32
shadeslayerdont worry i remember :D15:32
shadeslayerkdepim runtime uploaded as well 15:34
shadeslayerMamarok: ^^15:34
shadeslayeritll build and will copy into experimental15:35
Mamarokshadeslayer: hm, I guess it should go to beta ultimately, right? since it is a beta version...15:37
shadeslayerMamarok: nope,experimental15:39
shadeslayerMamarok: they are highly unstable atm15:39
shadeslayerMamarok: kdepim dev say so themselves :P15:39
Mamarokwell, beta belongs into beta, why in experimental? Then it should be labeled alpha, no?15:39
shadeslayermaybe the next release will be good to go15:39
rgreeningapachelogger: works if I uninstall python2.5 and python2.5-minimal and then log out and relogin.15:39
Mamarokwell, then I will not test, I need kdepim15:39
shadeslayerMamarok: :p15:40
* shadeslayer is testing.. doesnt need kdepim15:40
RiddellMamarok: kde pim guys say it's more unstable than they expected15:40
Riddellso yes it should be called alpha15:40
Mamarokwell, then labelling it beta is a bit bold...15:40
ScottKapachelogger and rgreening: If it's packaged properly, it shouldn't care about 2.5 being installed since it's not a supported version.15:41
shadeslayerQuintasan: poke15:41
Mamarokbeta is for testing and is more or less stable, or at least doesn't break your workfolw too badly15:41
Mamarokbut they already managed to break it anyway with what they did to kdepim in general and knotes and the addressbook in particular15:42
shadeslayerQuintasan: do you realise we need a bigger ppa? :D15:43
shadeslayerjust the qt packages take up 60 pc :P15:43
yofelbe glad they raised the default value, or you would already be over the limit :P15:47
shadeslayeryofel: :D15:49
shadeslayeryofel: where does all the qt stuff get imported?15:53
shadeslayerlike the url...15:53
yofelshadeslayer: I'm not sure what you mean...15:55
Riddellshadeslayer: got a reliable internet connection for your talk this time?15:57
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: neat :D16:01
JontheEchidna(no cavities for me, either!)16:01
shadeslayerRiddell: yes :D16:06
shadeslayerhmm.. i was thinking about something for the talk 2 mins ago and now ive forgotten :S16:09
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: is the release script readme still accurate?16:10
rbelemhey Riddell 16:18
shadeslayerdigikam is FTBFS16:18
* shadeslayer goes to fix16:18
rbelemRiddell, do you know about some changes to kdebase-workspace-dev, that removes some .h files16:19
shadeslayerseems to be already fixed :S16:19
Riddellrbelem: which one are you missing?16:21
ScottKshadeslayer: Where?16:21
shadeslayerScottK: http://udd.debian.org/cgi-bin/ubuntu_ftbfs.cgi16:21
ScottK(Note: It's not fixed in the archive)16:21
rbelemRiddell, screens.h and others16:21
shadeslayeryes.. seems so16:21
ScottKshadeslayer: Try to rebuild it yourself.16:21
rbelemRiddell, and some .so too16:21
shadeslayerScottK: but why does it show up there?16:21
ScottKBecause it doesn't build.16:22
rbelemRiddell, so i do not manage to link to libs such as plasmagenericshell 16:22
ScottKshadeslayer: Look at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/digikam/2:1.3.0-0ubuntu1/+build/1806969/+files/buildlog_ubuntu-maverick-ia64.digikam_2:1.3.0-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz16:22
shadeslayerScottK: its a rebuild error? and is not yet fixed?16:23
ScottKshadeslayer: Something changed after the last upload and ia64 hadn't built yet.  So all archs will get that error now.16:24
rbelemRiddell, and i would like to add some more .h to kdebase-workspace-dev :-D16:25
Riddellrbelem: it's an upstream change, screens.h isn't installed by upstream any more16:27
rbelemRiddell, :-(16:28
rbelemRiddell, and how about the missing libplasmagenericshell.so?16:29
Riddellrbelem: you can include a copy of screens.h yourself though16:29
RiddellScottK removed plasmagenericshell.so from kdebase-workspace-dev16:29
rbelemRiddell, i think that's the solution, copy all missing files :-(16:30
shadeslayerScottK: i think its due to Export .pot name and copy to plugins in debian/rules <<16:31
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: at the least, I assume that for at least the moment the svn external thing won't be correct, since your refactor is in bzr16:31
shadeslayerwhich was introduced by lex16:32
rbelemRiddell, i think that's a bug. What do you think about report a bug for that?16:32
Riddellrbelem: I think we need to wait until ScottK shows up to say why he did it16:35
rbelemRiddell, ok :-)16:36
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: also, libqapt has qapt-batch in its utils dir, which has translations. Will the release scripts fall over that?16:40
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: readme should be accurate, didnt look at it for ages though16:45
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: basically just muon.rb --help16:45
apacheloggerthen you can create an rc file with common settings you want always16:45
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: libqapt is not yet done, but no, it will not fall over that ;)16:45
apacheloggerindeed I only today noticed that apparently I made it super dynamic some time in the past by walking through the whole source tree and building a list of pot files from the Messages.sh scripts ;)16:46
JontheEchidnaprobably in a drunken stupor after lying awake at the keyboard for 3 hours mumbling about bannakaffalatta :D16:48
JontheEchidnaThat was my favorite of the Christmas specials16:49
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: supposedly dantti needs a script for the debconf stuff?16:50
shadeslayerRiddell: im all set up.. even if theres a power outage ill be able to respond :D16:50
JontheEchidnathe lib needs a bit of work, too16:50
JontheEchidnaIt doesn't install soversioned libs16:50
JontheEchidnaso dh_shlibdeps can't get a depencency on the lib, and it has to be added manually16:51
Riddellshadeslayer: you discovered the secret to running computers without electricity?16:51
JontheEchidnato the dependencies of muon16:51
shadeslayerRiddell: lol16:51
shadeslayerRiddell: no.. i just plugged it to my backup power supply :D16:51
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: btw, in def custom you can do custom haxx0ry to for example set the version16:51
apacheloggeror if you tell me where it is declared I can haxx0r that up for you16:52
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: src/main.cpp16:52
apacheloggerOTOH it seems common practise to set it via CMake these days16:52
apacheloggersee what digikam does16:52
JontheEchidnathat's for muon, nvm16:52
Riddellshadeslayer: you're on in 10 minutes?16:52
shadeslayeron now :D16:52
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: libqapt gets its version set in cmakelists.txt, toplevel16:52
Riddellshadeslayer: aren't you 10 minutes early?16:53
shadeslayerRiddell: yeah :P16:53
Riddell** packaging with the ninjas on shortly in #ubuntu-classroom with elite kubuntu ninja shadeslayer 16:53
ScottKrbelem and Riddell: I removed it because Debian did.  If we need it for mobile, I think putting it back is fine.16:53
rbelemScottK, cool!16:54
apacheloggerCopying pt_BR's .po(s) over ...16:54
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: l10n seems to be working alright16:55
apacheloggeroh ninja work in #ubuntu-classroom16:56
rbelemScottK, i will continue working to get kdm-plasma ready, and i will figure out what other changes are needed16:56
rbelemScottK, it is almost ready, but i will not have time to finish it today.16:58
* ScottK nods16:58
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: libqapt is translated into 12 languages 66 % on average 16:58
apacheloggercomplete are uk, fr, pt_BR, sv and pt16:58
apacheloggernot too bad I must say16:58
rbelembrazilian translation team rockz!16:59
JontheEchidnaI gots to go to lunch nao16:59
ScottKRiddell: 4.4.92 fully built on i386, amd64, powerpc, and ia64.  Need doko to fix the qt4-x11 ICE on armel before we get anywhere there.17:02
RiddellScottK: you think it's a job for doko, not NCommander?17:06
CIA-33[release-script-refactor] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100713161200-bcasfbmi5yc55fn9 * libqapt.rb libqapt++17:12
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: ^17:12
* apachelogger is wondering where that is coming from17:12
NCommanderRiddell: yes.17:15
apacheloggerah, we have a filter on libqapt ^^17:16
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: muon now also sets the version you specfiy in main.cpp17:16
apacheloggerNightrose: our family just grew quite a bit ;)17:16
Nightroseapachelogger: sorry - at work - our family grew? :D17:17
Nightrosedetails please17:17
apacheloggerNightrose: now also releasing kdevelop, kdevplatform, muon and libqapt ;)17:17
apacheloggerdantti: lp:~apachelogger/%2Bjunk/release-script-refactor/ has a nice release script for libdebconf-kde if you want ;)17:19
CIA-33[kubuntu-dev-tools] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100713162535-3f72oor55z62fnul * (.bzr-builddeb .bzr-builddeb/default.conf) add bzr-builddeb17:25
ScottKRiddell: Yes.  NCommander is FTBFS, ICE is doko.17:31
ScottKI mentioned it at the last release team meeting too.17:31
CIA-33[kubuntu-dev-tools] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100713163246-yq2aae9c8jp1hxru * (bin/batpaste debian/changelog debian/control) * Depend on kdebase-runtime not kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4 (latter got dropped) * Fix batpaste17:32
CIA-33[kubuntu-dev-tools] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100713163448-4zmdi9xk9i2t20in * (bin/astyle-kubuntu debian/changelog debian/control) * Add astyle script to format code according to Kubuntu C++ coding style + Recommend astyle17:34
CIA-33[kubuntu-dev-tools] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100713163907-phn0cppyp225e3rk * debian/ (source source/format changelog control) * Silence lintian + Raise standards version + Add debian/source + Depend on ${misc:Depends}17:39
CIA-33[kubuntu-dev-tools] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100713164431-639d3ejpgrzx5jfv * (bin/kde-sc-build-status debian/changelog debian/control) * Add kde-sc-build-status by Jonathan Riddell + Depend on python-launchpadlib17:44
rgreeningapachelogger: ubuntuone syncd eats my system17:45
apacheloggerrgreening: any hints as to why?17:46
rgreeningdunno. I set some mp3s to upload and the load average has been 2 constantly since then17:46
apacheloggerqdbus com.ubuntuone.SyncDaemon /17:47
apacheloggerdoes that return anything?17:47
apacheloggeror time out?17:47
rgreeningit returns but takes a while17:48
rgreeningapachelogger: gonna reboot... brb17:49
apacheloggerthen it is not my fault I suppose :D17:50
apacheloggerthe issues I had with kwallet were of the kind that the daemon would lock completely17:50
NCommanderScottK: Riddell: I raised a flag to Linaro on the ICE with qt4, and they're having me do a rebuild with a toolchain snapshot. 17:51
=== oxymoron_ is now known as oxymoron
Riddellthanks NCommander, good luck17:53
NCommanderRiddell: yeah. I'll fix KDE once we get Qt sorted. No need to put the cart before the horse so to speak.17:54
nigelbshadeslayer, Quintasan: good session folks :)17:54
nigelbmade it sound like realy awesome (it is btw)17:54
apacheloggerQuintasan, shadeslayer: supposedly I can nuke all of bat*?17:55
danttiapachelogger: you mean for the export stuff?17:55
shadeslayerapachelogger: no one uses it :D17:55
apacheloggerdantti: export?17:56
apacheloggershadeslayer: my point exactly :P17:56
danttiapachelogger: the findDebconf stuff17:56
apacheloggerthey are mostly obsolete anyway17:56
shadeslayerapachelogger: sure :)17:56
apacheloggerdantti: no, it builds a source tarball for release17:56
apacheloggera proper source tarball one might say17:56
danttiapachelogger: the findDebconf is obsolete right? so i should use export, no?17:57
danttiapachelogger: what is a propert source tarball?17:57
apacheloggerdantti: no, they do not do exactly the same17:57
apacheloggerfindFoo allows looking for a dependency (required and non-required) and failing gracefully or not at all17:58
oxymoronIn KDE 4.5 RC2, QT 4.7 Beta2 and Kubuntu 10.04 Lucid, why do I get an extra window marked with X logotype when starting Wine and VLC?17:58
apacheloggerthe export junk just helps cmake find libraries17:58
apacheloggerfrom what I have seen this does have not the same advantages as findFoo though17:58
shadeslayerRiddell: http://pastebin.com/piR0XWZd << 404 on main archives :D17:59
apacheloggerdantti: proper tarball being one with exactly the stuff that is needed (included translations) ;)17:59
danttiapachelogger: so i should keep the find foo?17:59
danttiJontheEchidna: btw did you fix the find foo? cause I saw your commit there17:59
oxymoronIs that a known bug?18:00
Riddellshadeslayer: sudo apt-get update  ?18:00
Riddellshadeslayer: 4.4.92 packages should be in now18:00
oxymoron4.4.92a :P18:00
Riddelloxymoron: not known to me, but then I don't use wither Wine or VLC18:00
apacheloggerdantti: definitely, but you should talk this over with JontheEchidna since he is one of your library users ;)18:00
apacheloggerI am just a user and I do not find it good when stuff falls over because it could not find a file 18:01
oxymoronRiddell: Alright, wll of course if you dont use them so :P It seems strange and its quite annoying getting an extra window all the time :P18:01
danttiapachelogger: k...18:01
Riddelloxymoron: mgraesslin might care, being a kwin upstream (or he might not)18:02
oxymoronmgraesslin: Do you care? :D18:02
mgraesslinoxymoron: can you switch to the windows or is it just in the tasks applet?18:03
oxymoronHopefully I will se only one soon when using the Linux native Spotify client xD18:03
apacheloggermhhhh, batl10n* ... the mother of the superior l10n foo we have now :D18:03
oxymoronmgraesslin: I can switch to them yes? Its nothing in them though, just an empty window.18:03
mgraesslincould be related to systray18:04
CIA-33[kubuntu-dev-tools] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100713170423-txbzdld4pb0nhryg * (11 files in 2 dirs) * Remove revupull in favor of pull-revu-source from ubuntu-dev-tools * Remove now obosolete batedit, batget, batgetorig, batl10n, batl10n-upload, batorig, batpush, batsend, battarexchange18:04
JontheEchidnadantti: yeah, I renamed it to DebconfConfig or whatever, and now find_package(debconf) works18:04
oxymoronmgraesslin: Yeah I got ugly icons with VLC and SPotify xD Black bakcground behind them as well :P18:05
danttiJontheEchidna: thanks, does it install everithing to the right place too?18:05
danttiwhat's the name of qt xt or something that has some free classes?18:05
mgraesslinI don't get those windows with VLC, but my VLC does not use a systray icon18:05
JontheEchidnadantti: yeah, but there is one more thing that needs fixed. It doesn't install .so versioned libraries (e.g. libdebconf.so.0.1.0 or whatever), but only the straight .so18:05
shadeslayerRiddell: same problem18:06
oxymoronmgraesslin: Hmm, maybe you use an old version of VLC or somethings strange going on with mydesktop as usual :P Seems like I am unique with my desktop that nobody can reproduce same things as I do xD18:06
shadeslayerRiddell: http://pastebin.com/5SVSrq1J18:06
shadeslayeroh wait18:07
mgraesslinoxymoron: VLC-Version 1.0.6 Goldeneye18:07
oxymoronmgraesslin: Always get trouble with X, sessions, systray and windows/Kwin/OpenGL/QT18:07
CIA-33[kubuntu-dev-tools] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100713170727-oawn8dd6ynqt926p * (bin/batbuild bin/batpull debian/changelog) batorig, batpush, batsend, battarexchange, batpull, batbuild18:07
oxymoronmgraesslin: Architecture: amd64 - Version: 1.0.6-1ubuntu118:08
oxymoronmgraesslin: As far as I can remember it havent worked properly since KDE 3.5 with window manager and handling :P18:09
oxymoronTheres conflicts between OpenGL, QT and Xserver I think. Thats one reasons why nouveau doesnt get properly native support for nvidia :P18:10
CIA-33[kubuntu-dev-tools] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100713172639-pmzur6luf3vwf4xz * (bin/gypsy debian/changelog lib/bat.rb) Cleanup bat library to only support what batpaste needs18:26
CIA-33[kubuntu-dev-tools] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100713172806-n0sh6pd2wpslpyao * (15 files in 4 dirs) Remove kioclient and kreadwriteconfig libraries18:28
CIA-33[kubuntu-dev-tools] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100713173219-3zd2mlj1htferwfp * (conf conf/batrc) remove old config18:33
CIA-33[kubuntu-dev-tools] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100713173319-xb6eiczldv0vwn1x * debian/changelog releasing version 10.10ubuntu118:34
MrDarkUserhi, I am trying to set up a development enviornment, and have gotten most of a kdesrc-build system up, does anybody use project Neon for kde development?18:34
apacheloggershadeslayer: ^18:35
shadeslayerMrDarkUser: Welkome18:35
shadeslayerMrDarkUser: join #project-neon18:36
apacheloggerseele, JontheEchidna: what do we do about bug 39022618:48
ubottuLaunchpad bug 390226 in kdepim (Ubuntu) "Make KDE Get Hot New Stuff button labels consistent" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/39022618:48
JontheEchidnabug upstream I guess18:49
JontheEchidnaI don't think we have enough l10n manpower on the ubuntu side of things to make changing the strings ourselves worth it18:50
JontheEchidnabut since string freeze has been on in 4.5 since forever ago, it'll have to wait for 4.618:50
shadeslayerScottK: poke18:54
shadeslayerseems the file has since been lost18:54
ScottKshadeslayer: What?18:58
shadeslayerScottK: its gone :)18:58
ScottKshadeslayer: What's gone?18:58
ScottKshadeslayer: Right.  So what happened to it?18:58
shadeslayerthe digikam file .. i cant find it the po folder18:58
oxymoronpoo xD18:59
shadeslayerScottK: #kde-i18n isnt saying :P18:59
ScottKshadeslayer: Note that it was there before.  It was probably generated and is no longer thanks to apachelogger's new magic.18:59
shadeslayerScottK: hmm.. lemme download clean sources and check18:59
apacheloggerpot files do not get built for non archive builds19:00
ScottKapachelogger: This is an archive build though19:00
apacheloggerdigikam got a completely stupid rules file that assumes the presence of the file though19:00
shadeslayerapachelogger: someone put it there in the 1.2.0 release19:00
ScottKFor in archive stuff that should be OK, right?19:00
apacheloggerScottK: yeah19:01
apacheloggerreal archie19:01
apacheloggernot PPA19:01
ScottKBut it's not.19:01
ScottKapachelogger: ^^19:01
apacheloggerdouble hooray19:03
apacheloggerchrome eats my mem19:03
ScottKRiddell: I'm starting to get a little nervous about rekonq stability.19:03
apacheloggerswtich to firefox already19:04
neversfeldeshadeslayer: just read the ninja session, you can add EXTRAPACKAGES="ccache nano apt-transport-https"19:04
neversfeldeto your pbuilderrc19:04
* apachelogger recommens adding that to the wiki?19:04
shadeslayerneversfelde: we dont give out ninja ppa :D19:04
neversfeldeif you need nano, ofcourse without ccache apt-transport-https19:04
shadeslayer[23:34:47] <elchevive1968__> shadeslayer: this russian kformula docbook doesnt exist anymore since 2 months ago19:05
neversfeldeshadeslayer: ?19:05
shadeslayerneversfelde: not you19:05
neversfeldeapachelogger: ?19:05
apacheloggerneversfelde: the terminal hook will install an editor19:05
shadeslayerScottK: ^^ apachelogger19:05
shadeslayerso im removing it from rules19:05
apacheloggershadeslayer: context?19:05
shadeslayerapachelogger: digikam FTBFS19:05
shadeslayer[23:34:47] <elchevive1968__> shadeslayer: this russian kformula docbook doesnt exist anymore since 2 months ago << from #kde-i18n19:05
neversfeldeapachelogger: not for pbuilder login?19:05
apacheloggershadeslayer: it does not ftbfs because of a docbook file?19:05
shadeslayerapachelogger: thats what #kde-i18n says :S19:06
apacheloggerneversfelde: why would you login into pbuilder?19:06
ScottKshadeslayer: Note that it built on other archs.19:06
shadeslayerScottK: fails on amd64 here19:06
apacheloggerthat changes everything19:06
apacheloggerwell, not really19:06
neversfeldeapachelogger: in the session a ppa was added to the sources.list19:06
apacheloggerjust partially19:06
apacheloggerScottK: the ia64 build probably does not get built with the essential properties to let our l10n magic kick in19:07
ScottKapachelogger: Why not?19:07
apacheloggerdoesnt matter anyway19:07
ScottKapachelogger: Every other KDE package built on ia64.19:07
ScottKWhy not?19:07
apacheloggerpot&po surely do not get drawn from ia64 builds19:07
ScottKI think it'll fail on all archs now anyway.19:07
apacheloggerthe packages built on ia64 because they did not have bogus rules19:08
shadeslayerScottK: yes,it fails on pbuilder here19:08
apacheloggerScottK: how so?19:08
ScottKSo I think the other archs got built before the new magic was in place.19:08
ScottKia64 was just late.19:08
ScottKSo it was out of sync.19:08
ScottKapachelogger: It also shows up on lucas rebuild test results.19:08
apacheloggerof course it does19:09
shadeslayerapachelogger: i can fix it.. 19:09
apacheloggerit will fail for every build that does not trigger pot creation19:09
apacheloggershadeslayer: please do so19:10
shadeslayermake that,i can try to fix it19:10
apacheloggerScottK: looks very likely that the other arches got built before the new pkg-kde-tools hit19:10
apacheloggerScottK: what worries me is that maybe the improved l10n foo is not working properly for dh7-only builds then19:11
ScottKOK.  Please help shadeslayer figure out the new magic.19:11
apacheloggershadeslayer: you just need to if condition the copy19:11
apacheloggerif file exists -> copy19:11
apacheloggerwe will see if l10n is broken with that new upload19:12
apacheloggeror if it is just ia6419:12
shadeslayerif(find -name *.po) cp19:12
apacheloggershadeslayer: no19:12
apacheloggershadeslayer: that is not what the command is doing :P19:12
shadeslayersomething like that..19:12
apacheloggerit is trying to copy one specific file19:12
shadeslayerapachelogger: replace * with name of file?19:12
apacheloggercheck for the explicit file19:12
apacheloggerwithout find19:12
apacheloggersh can do that ;)19:13
ScottKRiddell: On the off chance you're still up for doing archive stuff: Bug #60512519:13
ubottuLaunchpad bug 605125 in lucid-backports "Please backport kbackup 0.7-0ubuntu1 to Lucid" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/60512519:13
apachelogger[ ! -f FILE ] || do_something19:14
apacheloggerif I am not mistaken19:14
* shadeslayer doesnt understand why we cant use find19:15
shadeslayerapachelogger: btw that file *has* been removed according to kde-i18n19:15
shadeslayerso why even check?19:15
* apachelogger is sadened by that question19:16
neversfeldemhh, must be something wrong with KDE in Maverick, it is too fast :)19:16
shadeslayerneversfelde: whut? it keeps freezing up here19:16
shadeslayeri need to format i guess.. too much of cruft on my /19:17
jussi is it intentional that we are showing the home folder not the desktop in th folderview pasmoid on maverick?19:17
jussiif so, should we not move the install icon to the home folder?19:18
* shadeslayer always thought the plasmoid folder showed the desktop folder19:18
shadeslayerjussi: btw did maverick install?19:18
jussinot yet19:18
shadeslayerjussi: does it detect your HD? :D19:19
shadeslayerapachelogger: poke...19:20
shadeslayerwhat happened?19:20
jussishadeslayer: no19:20
* shadeslayer 's mail is full of apachelogger19:20
jussioh lol.19:21
shadeslayerapachelogger: no more no more..19:21
jussispecifying nodmraid at boot didnt work, but sudo apt-get remove dmraid 19:22
jussihrm, Ive a / and /home, if I just replace / with maverick, will there be issues?19:22
shadeslayerjussi: dont think so.. but you might want to remove unncessary config files19:23
jussiand if I dont format it it wont eat my pix etc?19:23
shadeslayerjussi: it wont :D19:23
shadeslayerjussi: its just the config files :P19:24
apacheloggerScottK: there is a bug in the dh7 support indeed19:24
jussiso, are we showing the home folder for a reason?19:25
ScottKapachelogger: OK.  I guess we can retry that build to verify the fix once it's uploaded.19:26
shadeslayerScottK: no need for me to do anything? :D19:26
* ScottK looks at apachelogger to find out.19:27
apacheloggerScottK: the rules file is still wrong19:29
apacheloggeryou cannot build it for PPA19:29
apacheloggeralso I am thinking about limiting l10n altogether for i38619:29
apacheloggerno use to have all arches build translation templates even though only those from i386 will be imported into launchpad19:29
apacheloggerwhile I am it, I could also limit l10n stuff to universe for now19:34
apacheloggerJontheEchidna would surely love this19:34
JontheEchidnaI sure would19:35
CIA-33[libqapt] jmthomas * 1149587 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/utils/qapt-batch/detailswidget.cpp KUIT context tag fix19:38
CIA-33[libqapt] jmthomas * 1149589 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/utils/qapt-batch/ (qaptbatch.cpp qaptbatch.h) Queue fetch warnings and commit errors for qapt-batch too, to be shown after the operation is complete19:40
CIA-33[muon] jmthomas * 1149590 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/MainWindow.cpp Fix capitalization for this window title string19:40
shadeslayerbrr... now fixing kdiff319:41
CIA-33[libqapt] jmthomas * 1149591 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/utils/qapt-batch/qaptbatch.cpp Const correctness fix19:42
CIA-33[muon] jmthomas * 1149592 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/MainWindow.cpp Const correctness fix19:42
JontheEchidnayay, muon is krazy-issue-free, and libqapt complies to all non-KDE standards for its Qt-only parts19:46
JontheEchidnaI think it's time for another alpha19:46
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: go go!19:47
apacheloggerno pitti :(19:54
* apachelogger doesnt wanna restrict to i386 unless pitti tells him it is save to do so19:54
CIA-33[libqapt] jmthomas * 1149597 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/CMakeLists.txt Bump version for new release19:54
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: restricting l10n to main|restricted now19:54
nixternalheh, JontheEchidna is like me when it comes to commits...fix something, commit...gets on my nerves when people do huge commits19:55
nixternalchange one letter...commit!19:55
JontheEchidnait's a good sign when the commit is longer than the diff19:56
JontheEchidnaer, commit message19:56
apachelogger  Uploading pkg-kde-tools_0.9.2ubuntu3_source.changes: done.19:56
apacheloggerSuccessfully uploaded packages.19:56
apacheloggerJontheEchidna, ScottK, shadeslayer ^19:56
ScottKapachelogger: Excellent.19:57
shadeslayerbtw.. kdiff3 is broken due to docbook issues19:57
shadeslayerwe it has forma 4.1.2 :S19:57
ScottKshadeslayer: Fix it please.  You can fix kdesudo after.19:57
shadeslayerScottK: yeah its going through pdebuild19:57
shadeslayerhad to add a patch19:57
nixternalshadeslayer: what are the docbook issues?19:58
shadeslayernixternal: want build log?19:58
shadeslayerthe de docbook uses version 4.1.2 whereas it should use 4.219:58
shadeslayerdunno if its a issue with other doc books too :S19:59
shadeslayerScottK: ill look at kdesudo tmmrw.. need $SLEEP :P20:00
ScottKSame issue on kdesudo20:00
nixternalwonder why that hasn't been fixed upstream...though what I don't get is why the issue is there anyways....nothing changed from 4.1.x to 4.2 that we use in our docs anyways20:01
nixternalor from 4.x to 5.x20:01
shadeslayernixternal: there was something on a ML about this20:01
shadeslayerkdelibs doesnt support 4.1.x anymore20:01
shadeslayer( thats what was written i think )20:01
ScottKSounds right.20:02
ScottKnixternal: I pinged Tonio about kdesudo and he said he'd fix it, but he's been about as active as you recently.20:02
shadeslayerinfact they gave everyone somedays to transition20:02
shadeslayerbut i guess some projects didnt look :P20:02
* shadeslayer will forward patch to kde20:02
nixternalbut if i tell meinproc to use 4.1.x, i can build a doc...i wonder if someone changed something in kdoctools20:04
shadeslayernixternal: email address please20:05
shadeslayeror wait.. ill pastebin20:05
JontheEchidnanixternal: yeah, kdoctools dumped a bunch of internal stuff and is using external docbook shiz20:05
shadeslayernixternal: http://pastebin.com/ecHdHmhN << i think thats the mail20:05
JontheEchidnaneat, in 4.5 notifications don't go away if you're hovering over them20:11
ScottKJontheEchidna: Or if they pop in under your cursor.20:12
JontheEchidnashould they go away if that happens? I have not formed an opinion on that matter20:12
* apachelogger jus thopes he did not break anything in pkg-kde-tools ^^20:12
apacheloggerpossibly we should add unit testing20:12
ScottKJontheEchidna: I'm not sure.  I first discovered the change when they were stuck and I couldn't figure out why.20:13
nixternalahh, i see where the issue is for de for kdiff3, there isn't any messages in svn for it20:15
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: is message indicator still a patch  ... bug 54555020:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 545550 in kdepim (Ubuntu) "Implement the ability to hide kmail in the message indicator widget only" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/54555020:15
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: no, upstreamed20:15
apacheloggerthen lets poke someone with that bug :P20:16
JontheEchidnaScottK: quite accidentally/coincidentally, I went to avail myself of the facilities and just so happened to have my mouse cursor over where the notifciation of you highlighting me showed up20:16
JontheEchidnait was nice to be able to see what the highlight was about, but if the user doesn't get the clue that it didn't go away because the cursor was there, it might seem inconsistent20:17
ScottKyes, but we have blinky tray stuff for that use case.20:17
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: bug 128643 - maybe fix upstreamy?20:17
* ryanakca grumbles at usb-creator-* sigsegving on all of his computers and needing to have a LiveUSB to install linux on the librarian's netbook in 13 minutes.20:17
ubottuLaunchpad bug 128643 in kdepim (Ubuntu) "Error when creating IMAP Folder for ressources" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/12864320:17
apacheloggerJontheEchidna, ScottK: took me a couple of seconds to realize that it was not going away because of my mouse20:18
apacheloggerthen again that might be because my cursor theme is pink and the notification was pink, so the contrast was not in favor of noticing ;)20:18
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: perhaps. I'd close as fix0rd20:18
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: you close upstream, I close downstream :P20:19
apacheloggersometimes this afternoon my KDE day became a buntu day20:19
apacheloggermaybe I should do KDE weekends instead of u1 weekends20:20
apacheloggersurely would be more relaxing ^^20:20
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: closed upstream20:20
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-i18n-doc&m=127577687726704&w=220:24
shadeslayeruh.. ScottK http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-i18n-doc&m=127577687726704&w=220:24
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: sorry :(20:24
ScottKshadeslayer: OK.  So fix it.20:26
apacheloggershadeslayer: do you have a fix for digikam yet?20:27
shadeslayerapachelogger: no :S20:27
shadeslayerScottK: pinotree says theres nothing to fix :/20:27
ScottKWho said it was broken?20:27
shadeslayerScottK: brr.. its FTBFS20:27
shadeslayerall of the archs20:28
ScottKOK, so there is something to fix ...20:28
shadeslayerexactly :P20:29
ScottKI guess the question is if apachelogger's translation magic fix was it.20:29
* apachelogger lacks context again :S20:30
ScottKIronic since context is a key part of diffing.20:30
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: bug 32790820:32
ubottuLaunchpad bug 327908 in kdepim (Ubuntu) "Hebrew translation is asynced with source" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/32790820:32
apachelogger:D <- joker grin20:32
shadeslayerScottK: what do you think should be done? :S20:39
shadeslayerpinotree says there is no problem :P20:39
ScottKshadeslayer: I think you should make it build.20:39
shadeslayerScottK: with the patch?20:39
ScottKI'd need to study it more than I have to have an opinion.20:40
jussicurious, I have no tab complete...20:48
jussimind, it may be because I rm -rf .*20:48
shadeslayerjussi: brrrrr20:49
shadeslayerjussi: precisely because of that20:49
shadeslayeryou deleted bashrc20:49
jussiright. how do I get it back?20:49
shadeslayerjussi: http://pastebin.com/6wZRwTzQ20:50
shadeslayeryou will need to edit some stuff tho :P20:50
shadeslayerthe last 4 lines probably20:50
jussifis there not a package I can reinstall that will bring it back?20:50
yofeljussi: it should be in /etc/skel20:51
shadeslayernope.. and the one in /etc/default wont help too20:51
yofelthe default one I mean20:51
shadeslayeryofel: thats new to me20:51
shadeslayerseems your right20:51
yofelshadeslayer: the files in there get copied to the users home dir when you create a new user20:51
shadeslayeryofel: i only knew about the /etc bashrc :P20:52
yofelthat's the system wide one :P20:52
shadeslayeryeah :)20:52
shadeslayerthats the only one i knew apart from .bashrc20:52
shadeslayerin your ~/home20:53
=== zegenie__ is now known as zegenie
jussido I now have to do something to get them to work?20:53
shadeslayerjussi: source .bashrc20:54
shadeslayerfrom your ~20:54
jussiyay! thanks20:55
shadeslayeroff to sleep now i am20:56
=== jjesse_ is now known as jjesse
ScottKRiddell: Thanks (kbackup backport)23:12
ScottKRiddell: Somewhat oddly, I don't see the actual backported package: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kbackup/+publishinghistory23:39

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