[00:00] <trondpeter> im going to give it to a small business.. lol  :S   Ill just tell them that this is a great moneysaver.. screen and kebaord not even neccesary ehh possible  :D   But servers should only be connected with etehrnet and power anyway.. :)
[00:04] <billybigrigger> can someone help me out with an ssh key problem
[00:04] <billybigrigger> im trying to ssh-copy-id [user@host] from my friends machine to my server, trying to allow him access..but i keep get pubkey denied error messages
[00:04] <billybigrigger> can i just copy/paste his rsa key into his ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on my server?
[00:16] <trondpeter> OK hooked my server up with a keyboard and a screen.. The only thing that shows up on screen when I boot it is:  fsck from util-linux-ng 2.17.2     /dev/sda1: clean 765765/87658765 files, 765765/7657658765 blocks
[00:18] <trondpeter> when I press escape  Ubuntu 10.14   . . . .   (startupscreen in ascii shows up)
[00:20] <trondpeter> im now in tty7  (always used ssh or tty1 before this problem appeared.. tried to start from older kernel.. didnt work either.. :\
[00:23] <trondpeter> searched all the web for answers too :\
[01:11] <EvilTrek> anyone know where I can get support for the openssh-server package/sshd?
[01:12] <EvilTrek> specifically with a security question
[01:32] <NightDragon> ok who knows IT systems management really well? :)
[01:41] <coxn> EvilTrek: fire up an openbsd system and it will point you to their bug tracking... "approach
[01:41] <coxn> or, you know: http://openssh.org/
[01:42] <trondpeter> hi guys     framebuffer is nessesary on a server edition??
[01:43] <trondpeter> whi wirte lsmod  vga16fb is listed...
[01:43] <trondpeter> when write *
[01:44] <trondpeter> I can blacklist vga16fb right??    having some problems with boot  and trying to find the error.
[01:47] <trondpeter> bfcon is also running... hmm strange.. I havent activated any graphics that I know about :\
[01:54] <qman__> trondpeter, while I think you could disable it without issues, it is enabled by default
[01:55] <buckelij> I'm trying to get libpam-ldap authentication working on 10.04. 'id username' works for most users, but fails for user without the givenName attribute with 'no such user'. any idas?
[02:32] <Shapeshiftr> Hey.
[02:33] <Shapeshiftr> Erm, I don't know if there is a SFTP channel or something to post this in, but...
[02:33] <Shapeshiftr> how can I use SFTP if it's not auto-sudo?
[02:33] <EvilTrek> Shapeshiftr:  erm.. .what?
[02:33] <twb> SFTP is a module of SSH.
[02:34] <EvilTrek> Shapeshiftr:  SFTP doesnt need sud o.o
[02:34] <EvilTrek> sudo*
[02:34] <twb> The SSH channel is #openssh.
[02:34] <Shapeshiftr> I get a "write permissions denied" error whenever I try to copy any files from this compuier over.
[02:34] <EvilTrek> depends where you're copying to
[02:34] <EvilTrek> oh...
[02:34] <twb> 11:34 <fsbot> tell us EXACTLY 1) what you typed; 2) what you saw; and 3) what you expected to see.
[02:34] <Shapeshiftr> Just a home/user/
[02:34] <EvilTrek> Linux to Windows?
[02:34] <Shapeshiftr> Windows to linux.
[02:34] <EvilTrek> or Linux to Linux?
[02:34] <EvilTrek> Windows to Linux?
[02:34] <Shapeshiftr> Yeah.
[02:35] <EvilTrek> Shapeshiftr:  make sure you have ownership of /home/user
[02:35] <Shapeshiftr> Error:	/home/administrator/levels/two.lvl: open for write: permission denied
[02:35] <Shapeshiftr> Error:	File transfer failed
[02:35] <EvilTrek> oh...
[02:35] <EvilTrek> heh
[02:35] <trondpeter> my server doesnt want to boot locally  (ssh works)  it "hangs" saying fsck from util-linux-ng 2.17.2   /dev/sda1: clean 50667/366480 files, 320366/1454676 blocks   Anyone can help me with a solution?  looked everywhere for help..
[02:35] <EvilTrek> yeah use sudo there Shapeshiftr, because sftp doesnt mean sudoftp :P
[02:36] <twb> trondpeter: are you running lucid?
[02:36] <EvilTrek> Shapeshiftr:  since I assume your user you're using doesnt ahve ownership of the destination folder /home/administrator
[02:36] <Shapeshiftr> I've logged into the SFTP as administrator
[02:36] <Shapeshiftr> No, I do.
[02:36] <Shapeshiftr> I AM administrator
[02:36] <EvilTrek> hrm interesting...
[02:36] <twb> Shapeshiftr: does an SFTP GET work?
[02:36] <EvilTrek> check ls -l /home/
[02:36] <EvilTrek> that too
[02:37] <Shapeshiftr> hrm, twb ?
[02:37] <EvilTrek> make sure that the administrator folder though is owned by your user
[02:37] <Shapeshiftr> how would I go about doing that?
[02:37] <trondpeter> yep   server edition  with samba kerberos authentication in a winblows AD domain
[02:37] <EvilTrek> Shapeshiftr:  its a function: within SFTP... GET <remote file>
[02:37] <EvilTrek> ?
[02:37] <EvilTrek> i think
[02:37] <Shapeshiftr> um, EvilTrek , I've logged in to the STFP client as administrator
[02:37] <Shapeshiftr> So of course I have permissions :3
[02:37] <trondpeter> ls -al ?  :)
[02:38] <EvilTrek> trondpeter:  not fer ya, :P
[02:38] <trondpeter> chown user:group file
[02:38] <Shapeshiftr> Ok, so I'm using FileZilla
[02:39] <Shapeshiftr> I drag and drop a file from my computer to the remote server computer.
[02:39] <Shapeshiftr> And, write permission error.
[02:39] <Shapeshiftr> :\
[02:39] <Shapeshiftr> What does ls do, btw?
[02:40] <qman__> Shapeshiftr, just because you _should_ have permission doesn't mean you _do_ have permission
[02:40] <qman__> ls -al will tell you who owns and has permission to the files
[02:40] <Shapeshiftr> Well, how would I not have write permissions for my own home folder? ...
[02:41] <Shapeshiftr> Ok, running, one sec.
[02:41] <qman__> you could have write to /home/administrator but not /home/administrator/levels
[02:41] <qman__> or, /home/administrator/levels/two.lvl specifically
[02:41] <twb> trondpeter: did you upgrade in-place from a previous release?
[02:42] <Shapeshiftr> Ah, the folder i'm trying to copy to is set to root.
[02:42] <Shapeshiftr> Yeah, /levels
[02:42] <Shapeshiftr> How would I change that?
[02:43] <qman__> Shapeshiftr, sudo chown -R administrator:administrator /home/administrator/levels
[02:43] <Shapeshiftr> 3 seperate lines?
[02:43] <Shapeshiftr> *separate
[02:43] <qman__> one line
[02:44] <Shapeshiftr> Erm, I mean, spaces in between each line?
[02:44] <Shapeshiftr> of course, that was a stupid question.
[02:44] <qman__> exactly as I have written it, in a terminal
[02:44] <qman__> that sort of thing happens when you use sudo to create directories or files
[02:45] <Shapeshiftr> Ah...
[02:45] <Shapeshiftr> I'll remember that for next time.
[02:45] <qman__> not a big deal, but you need to fix it if you want user-level access
[02:45] <Shapeshiftr> It's a personal server, I'm really the only user besides root
[02:46] <Shapeshiftr> Ok, thanks everyone.
[02:46] <Shapeshiftr> Later.
[02:48] <bogeyd6> no one gave shapeshifter the website to the documentation :)
[02:51] <twb> bogeyd6: what documentation?
[02:51] <qman__> his problem was a typical permissions issue
[02:51] <qman__> I wasn't aware there was any documentation to recommend there
[02:51] <twb> RUTE, perhaps
[02:53] <trondpeter> anyone wants to see my dmesg?  :p   http://pastebin.com/EanDAvmp        Sorry fell out a bit.. might have missed some messages
[02:55] <trondpeter> safe to blacklist lp module?
[02:57] <twb> trondpeter: so the machine booted fully?
[02:58] <twb> lp is the parallel port; I wouldn't bother blacklisting it.
[02:58] <bogeyd6> !serverguide | twb
[02:59] <twb> bogeyd6: I don't think the server guide covers POSIX DACs.
[02:59] <trondpeter> yeah,, i acess it from ssh.  but not possible to access it locally
[02:59] <bogeyd6> twb, i was talking about asking about "ls"and etc....
[03:00] <qman__> trondpeter, did you try pressing escape?
[03:00] <qman__> for some reason, lucid server likes to add the stupid graphical loading screen and hiding all messages
[03:00] <qman__> that might be hanging you up
[03:02] <twb> qman__: it's a "feature" that we can't remove :-/
[03:02] <twb> Even if you comment out splash in the boot options, it still runs plymouth -- all that you disable is the chvt 7
[03:02] <qman__> yuck
[03:03] <qman__> first thing I always did on my servers was remove 'quiet splash' from the boot line
[03:03] <qman__> invaluable when things break
[03:03] <twb> AND, in plymouth, hitting ESC makes it print the full history, without clearing the screen first -- so if you only have five lines, and you hit ESC a few times, it prints it over and over in a confusing way
[03:04] <twb> You also have to opt-out of fbcon now, and you *can't* opt out in d-i images.
[03:04] <qman__> I understand that vanity is an issue for desktops, but for server, come on
[03:04] <twb> qman__: allegedly "it's not just splash"
[03:10] <qman__> I would be happy if they simply added an option that with a specific boot line it shows all messages the old way
[03:10] <qman__> I don't really care what's under the hood as long as I get the information
[03:11] <qman__> the way it is now is a total pain
[03:51] <peugi2> Greetings! I have a question regarding network aliases for eth0, do they all have to be in the same subnet? If they do, how do I create eth1
[03:52] <peugi2> ie, I just got new range of ips from my ISP, but I'm having trouble adding them to my interfaces file
[03:55] <peugi2> can anyone please help with ip addresses?
[04:24] <Underbyte> hey guys
[04:24] <Underbyte> what happenin
[05:23] <fridgerator> hello, anyone here?
[05:27] <fridgerator> i have a question/issue, is anyone available to help?
[05:38] <fridgerator>  i install ubuntu server 10.04, and set up ssh to log in remotely, everything installs and runs without a hitch.... when i restart my computer, after post, i get what looks like a blinking cursor " _ " then my screen goes blank and nothing else happens
[05:57] <RudyValencia> !ubotu
[06:15] <CppIsWeird> i cant seem to get xen installed on ubuntu server because xen-tools is missing
[06:22] <Underbyte> hey guys, how do i check for the number of file descriptors compiled in kernel?
[06:24] <Jordan_U> Underbyte: What problem are you actually having / trying to solve?
[06:25] <Underbyte> i'm filling out an IRCD application
[06:25] <Underbyte> and that is one of the questions
[06:25] <Underbyte> i've never heard a question like that
[06:32] <ChmEarl> CppIsWeird, grab it from a karmic repo
[06:33] <ChmEarl> CppIsWeird, its confirmed missing from lucid
[07:41] <pthsWork> Anyone know of any good templates for documenting patch panels/switches cabling?
[09:32] <tnt217> hi all
[09:32] <tnt217> please help me to install autoconf version2.6?'
[09:33] <tnt217> i try with command :apt-get install autoconf?
[10:40] <doko> hi, what is the ubuntu-server-qa/regression-test ppa about?
[10:45] <crankyadmin> Hi there, Will ruby1.9 every become the default version in 10.04LTS server edition?
[10:48] <twb> 10.04 is released, therefore it is stable.  That's "stable" as in "does not change".  So if it isn't already the default, it's unlikely to become so.
[10:50] <crankyadmin> Cool thanks.
[10:57] <RoyK> twb: that definition of "stable" is nonesense - feature-freeze != stable
[10:57] <RoyK> but then, 10.04 _is_ fairly stable
[10:57] <twb> Freezes happen before the release.
[10:57] <RoyK> yeah, but "stable" != "feature-frozen"
[10:57] <twb> As at the release, it becomes stable.  There are exceptions (notably, security patches), but these are exceptions.
[10:58] <RoyK> you said `That's "stable" as in "does not change"`
[10:58] <twb> Precisely.
[10:58] <RoyK> that's abusing the word `stable`
[10:59] <RoyK> "does not change" is "feature-frozen", and has nothing to do with the word "stable"
[10:59] <twb> Plonk.
[10:59] <RoyK> the only other place I've seen mixup of that was from the AsteriskPBX guys, but then, that project is a mess and is pretty far from any type of stability
[10:59] <crankyadmin> So am I correct in assuming that 'apt-get install ruby' will never install ruby1.9?
[11:00] <RoyK> crankyadmin: there might be other repositories if you want it from a package
[11:00] <twb> crankyadmin: on 10.04, that is a reasonably safe assumption.
[11:01] <crankyadmin> Cool
[11:02] <twb> crankyadmin: for a security update to change ruby from 1.8 to 1.9, it'd have to be something both critical and impossible to backport.
[11:02] <twb> Of course, it you have stuff like lucid-backports or PPAs enabled, you might accidentally get 1.9
[11:02] <RoyK> crankyadmin: http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/downloads/
[11:03] <RoyK> crankyadmin: sudo apt-get install ruby1.9.1-full
[11:03] <RoyK> it's all in lucid already
[12:47] <p1l0t> So I changed my ssh and sshd to RSAuthentication yes and password authentication to no. However I still invalid user messages in my auth.log... did I miss something?
[13:38] <p1l0t> If you change ssh_config and sshd_config to RSAuthentication yes and Password Authentication to no why would auth.log still be showing invalid user attempts? (My key is several thousand bits long and one week old I highly doubt its been brute forced yet)
[13:57] <Jeeves_Moss> is there a CLI only picture comparison program that will search through a directory of a few hundrad thousand files and look for duplicates?
[13:58] <Jeeves_> md5sum ?
[13:59] <alvin> Jeeves_Moss: fdupes can do that, based on checksums, but if the picture is a duplicate with a different resolution, that will not work
[14:16] <DrPoO> what do u guys recommend for setting up automatic security updates on a server?
[14:22] <joschi> DrPoO: unattended-upgrades maybe...
[14:22] <DrPoO> joschi, is that a package?
[14:23] <joschi> DrPoO: yep
[14:25] <rahman> is there a quick way to get the user name who is running a process?
[14:25] <DrPoO> top?
[14:25] <Jeeves_> ps uax ?
[14:26] <rahman> I now the name of process: "named"
[14:26] <rahman> So how to learn who is running "named"
[14:26] <Jeeves_> ps uax | grep named
[14:27] <Jeeves_> The first column is the user running it
[14:27] <Jeeves_> bind, usually for named
[14:27] <rahman> Jeeves_: thanks, its what I need
[14:28]  * patdk-wk is lazy, stat -c %U /proc/`pidof named`
[14:29] <patdk-wk> though, I normally use the uid numbers
[14:29] <Jeeves_> patdk-wk: That's not lazy, that inefficient :)
[14:29] <patdk-wk> well, depends on what your using it for
[14:29] <patdk-wk> I normally use it in scripts
[14:29] <patdk-wk> ps aux | grep named would need something to filter columns
[14:29] <patdk-wk> I guess I could modify the ps output also
[14:29] <p1l0t> blain: If you change ssh_config and sshd_config to RSAuthentication yes and Password Authentication to no why would auth.log still be showing invalid user attempts?
[14:30] <jefferai> zul: apachelogger pointed me your way about a problem we've uncovered
[14:30] <jefferai> the problem is that libmysqld is distributed in a separate pic-enabled package
[14:31] <jefferai> but, mysql_config --cflags doesn't have -fPIC
[14:31] <jefferai> because the main package isn't built with -fPIC
[14:31] <jefferai> so if you use mysql_config to get your build requirements your build will fail
[14:32] <zul> jefferai: can you open a bug in launchpad
[14:33] <jefferai> against what package?
[14:33] <jefferai> mysql or the libmysqld-pic one?
[14:35] <zul> mysql
[14:36] <jefferai> ok
[14:40] <jefferai> zul -- sorry, against mysql-server or mysql-dfsg?
[14:40] <jefferai> hm
[14:41] <jefferai> mysql-server doesn't exist..
[14:42] <zul> mysql-5.1 please
[14:44] <rahman> hi I get this error in my slave dns server: http://pastebin.com/XU1QRBTN
[14:45] <sherr> I am using 10:04 server with KVM and virsh - trying to "hot add" an LV "disk" to a guest, but having problems.
[14:45] <sherr> If I use virsh - and "attach-disk", the disk is "attached" but the gurst hangs and I have to destroy it.
[14:46] <sherr> attach-disk DOM /dev/vgserver/disk vdb
[14:46] <sherr> This creates a disk XML block :
[14:46] <sherr> <disk type='block' device='disk'>
[14:46] <sherr> <driver name='phy' type='virtio'/>
[14:46] <patdk-wk> rahman, fix your master dns server
[14:46] <sherr> But the guest is dead now.
[14:47] <sherr> Does anyone use "attach-disk" with KVM/virsh?
[14:48] <patdk-wk> hmm, actually I think it's the tmp file, guess named doesn't have write permission
[14:48] <sherr> If I try and restart the guest (start), I get an error :
[14:48] <rahman> patdk-wk: master has allow section for slave and it doesn't report any error in syslog for slave
[14:48] <sherr> error: internal error unsupported driver name 'phy' for disk '/dev/vgserver/rum-disk-server'
[14:48] <rahman> Jul 13 16:18:09 artvin named[647]: client 79.123.252.52#46624: transfer of 'artvin.edu.tr/IN': AXFR started         Jul 13 16:18:09 artvin named[647]: client 79.123.252.52#46624: transfer of 'artvin.edu.tr/IN': AXFR ended
[14:48] <patdk-wk> ya, I just noticed the tmp file failed
[14:48] <sherr> There is very little documentation for the "--driver" and "--subdriver" options to "attach-disk" ...
[14:48] <patdk-wk> fix your filesystem permissions
[14:49] <rahman> do I need to give -wrx permissions to "bind" user for /tmp dir?
[14:50] <patdk-wk> heh?
[14:50] <jefferai> zul: ok, done: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mysql-5.1/+bug/605021
[14:50] <patdk-wk> what exactly did you do to your /tmp?
[14:50] <patdk-wk> and I wouldn't know, I don't use named, I hate named
[14:51] <patdk-wk> last I saw, named used chroot, dunno if that is the case in ubuntu
[14:51] <zul> jefferai: thanks
[14:51] <rahman> patdk-wk: :) well its a fresh installed bind9, I don't know where "named" is trying to write tmp-mAacM75gcD
[14:52] <jefferai> zul: sure...now I just have to figure how to work around this breakage for people for now
[14:52] <rahman> or trying  to read it from
[14:52] <patdk-wk> I wouldn't know either :)
[14:52] <rahman> patdk-wk: thanks anyways :)
[14:54] <smoser> jdstrand, ping
[15:00] <jdstrand> smoser: yes?
[15:00] <smoser> you're archive admin? i think.
[15:01] <smoser> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cloud-init/+bug/605013 is in need of help if you had some spare time.
[15:01] <jdstrand> smoser: I am, but my day isn't until Friday (see ArchiveAdministration). what do you need?
[15:02] <smoser> jdstrand, sorry, i didn't know of days. i'm ok to bug jonathan or wait.
[15:03] <jdstrand> smoser: I should mention that I (or jonathon for that matter) are not on the MIR team
[15:03] <smoser> oh. sorry. yeah, i was confused.
[15:03] <smoser> so never mind then. thank you.
[15:05] <smoser> jdstrand, can you verify for me that legacy-grub-ec2 should at least be in universe at the moment ? it does'nt seem to be in the archive right now, but i'm under the impression that no other buttons need pushing to get it there.
[15:05] <jdstrand> smoser: sure, np :)
[15:05] <smoser> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+queue?queue_state=3&queue_text=cloud-init shows component universe for that version
[15:06] <jdstrand> smoser: is legacy-grub-ec2 a binary provided by the cloud-init source?
[15:06] <smoser> yes
[15:06] <jdstrand> smoser: was legacy-grub-ec2 added in a recent cloud-init upload?
[15:06] <smoser> yes
[15:07] <smoser> before this morning it was in the NEW queue
[15:07] <jdstrand> smoser: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cloud-init shows grub-legacy-ec2 (as opposed to legacy-grub-ec2) for 0.5.12-0ubuntu5
[15:08] <smoser> grub-legacy-ec2 is correct.
[15:08] <smoser> updating bug
[15:09] <jdstrand> smoser: it is in LP. when did it get deNEWd?
[15:09] <smoser> i'm a moron
[15:09] <smoser> sorry
[15:09]  * smoser apologizes for stupidity
[15:09] <smoser> thank you for catching my bad package name. it is in universe.
[15:10] <jdstrand> smoser: heh, no worries. happens to the best of us :)
[15:50] <p1l0t> In sshd what is pubkey authentication?
[15:51] <patdk-wk> rsa/dha key exchanges
[15:51] <p1l0t> OK so pubkey must be allowed to use RSA or DSA
[15:52] <patdk-wk> yep
[15:52] <p1l0t> If you change ssh_config and sshd_config to RSAuthentication yes and Password Authentication to no why would auth.log still be showing invalid user attempts?
[15:52] <patdk-wk> AuthorizedKeysFile     %h/.ssh/authorized_keys
[15:53] <patdk-wk> do you have any authorized keys?
[15:53] <p1l0t> Yes I have a working key, I am just curious as to why random (hackers or bots probably) are showing up in auth.log with invalid user attempts
[15:54] <p1l0t> crackers I should say
[15:55] <patdk-wk> oh?
[15:55] <patdk-wk> cause it's invalid :)
[15:55] <p1l0t> lol yeah I guess that makes sense.
[15:56] <p1l0t> I was expecting it to say invalid key rather than invalid user I guess
[15:56] <patdk-wk> is the user valid?
[15:56] <p1l0t> negative
[15:56] <kozmund> I don't believe sshd exposes the fact that keyboard-interactive is disabled, just like sshd won't expose that the username someone is attempting doesn't exist.
[15:57] <p1l0t> kozmund: Yes for security that would make sense
[15:58] <patdk-wk> hmm, I don't get that
[15:58] <patdk-wk> with mine, configed with passwordAuthenication = no
[15:59] <patdk-wk> it doesn't attempt passwordauth at all, on the client side
[15:59] <patdk-wk> no error messsages logged
[15:59] <p1l0t> mine too. Some attempts say invalid key, which would be expected, but some say invalid user which I guess I don't how they got that far with password attempts disabled
[16:00] <patdk-wk> ya, I get invalid user
[16:00] <patdk-wk> but the user check happens long before the password check
[16:01] <patdk-wk> as it needs to know hte user, to find the directory for the certs
[16:01] <p1l0t> before the key check even?
[16:01] <patdk-wk> yes
[16:01] <patdk-wk> you can't find the key, without looking in the users home dir for them
[16:01] <p1l0t> Ah, that makes me feel better
[16:02] <p1l0t> I was worried I had missed disabling something. I have had so many brute-force attempts that I felt I needed key based authentication
[16:03] <patdk-wk> heh, simple firewall based rules normally do good with that
[16:03] <patdk-wk> if not, fail2ban
[16:04] <p1l0t> Yeah I would like to set a number more like 3
[16:08] <p1l0t> Maybe set a banner too.. with idle threats of prosecution. (since most of these attacks are coming from China and Korea)
[16:12] <rahman> what is the dfeault working directory for bind in 10.04? I get a named[23441]: the working directory is not writable when I restart bind and could'nt find where the option is set.
[16:15] <Jeeves_Moss> alvin, sorry, I was AFK, I'm looking for something that'll take into account the diff sizes, res, etc.  I have ~300,000 pics that I don't want to manually go through
[16:20] <ccheney> ttx, you happen to know much about the uec provisioning cgi script?
[16:21] <ccheney> ttx, i'm running into a problem with it executing powerwake, tried to contact kirkland but he appears to be afk for a while
[16:25] <Alan> I'm running 10.04 server, 64-bit, with software RAID5, and i'm finding that occasionally some operations take like 10 seconds to complete
[16:25] <Alan> for example closing vim or logging out of SSH
[16:25] <Alan> but only occasionally, and just that one operation
[16:25] <alvin> Jeeves_Moss: I found a utility 'findimagedupes' in universe. I didn't try it, but it looks like what you're searching for
[16:26] <Alan> and then it's back to being funke
[16:26] <Alan> has anybody else hasd this happen before/
[16:31] <talcite> hi guys. I have a program that's giving me a weird error in bash. I've seen it before but I can't remember what caused it
[16:34] <talcite> http://pastebin.com/DxXtpA6K
[16:34] <talcite> I don't understand why it doesnt' execute pclient. It's chmodded 755
[16:36] <Jeeves_Moss> alvin, thanks, I'll research it.
[16:43] <DrPoO> is there a way of creating a temporary partition in swap?
[16:53] <patdk-wk> drpoo, tmpfs :)
[16:53] <DrPoO> patdk-wk, tmpfs?
[16:54] <patdk-wk> ya
[16:54] <DrPoO> can one create a tmpfs on a ssd?
[16:54] <patdk-wk> tmpfs is a swap backed ramdisk
[16:54] <DrPoO> nice
[16:54] <patdk-wk> you said in swap
[16:54] <DrPoO> ya my swap is on an ssd
[16:54] <patdk-wk> well, it's a ramdisk that can get swapped
[16:59] <sherr> Question about KVM and LV - In Xen, an LV is seen/inserted into a guest as a partition (e.g. xvda1). In KVM, an LV is is seen as an entire disk in the guest i.e. /dev/vdb.
[16:59] <patdk-wk> actually, in xen it's optional
[16:59] <patdk-wk> I do it both ways
[16:59] <patdk-wk> I personally feel inserting it as a partition is evil
[16:59] <sherr> Is there a problem (downside) to not putting a partition table on the LV inside the guest (vdb1) and just a filesystem on the entire device vdb? This seems "cleaner".
[17:00] <patdk-wk> sherr, generally you will be fine
[17:00] <patdk-wk> but some things will freak out, and *install* a partition table for you
[17:00] <sherr> Thanks - it seems to work OK, but just planning.
[17:00] <patdk-wk> I have run without a partition table on systems for awhile, and it works
[17:00] <sherr> I *am* concerned about compatibility and data safety.
[17:00] <patdk-wk> but when I tried openfiler, it wipes the drive if it doesn't have a partition table
[17:02] <sherr> Thanks. I will note that concern about things like OpenFiler - don;'t think it will affect me.
[17:02] <patdk-wk> ya, openfiler I know will screw it up :)
[17:02] <patdk-wk> haven't had anyhting else yet, but I normally don't use gui stuff
[17:03] <sherr> I think I am going to have to search LP for bugs and probably log one though - trying to use "virsh" to "attach-disk" (hotplug) will hang the guest.
[17:03] <sherr> Not a show-stopper for me, but a shame.
[17:03] <patdk-wk> ya, I haven't used kvm at all, but lots of xen
[17:04] <patdk-wk> switching them all over to vmware though
[17:04] <sherr> I use Xen too ... but have had to switch to KVM because of new hardware.
[17:05] <sherr> Debian Stable/Xen - unsupported h/w. Debian Testing/Xen - unstable ... so, on Ubuntu Lucid 10:04 now :-)
[17:05] <patdk-wk> I'm still in 8.04
[17:05] <patdk-wk> cause of xen
[17:05] <patdk-wk> once the move to vmware is good, it will all be 10.04
[17:06] <patdk-wk> some have already moved
[17:08] <sherr> I don't know VMware well enough. And I need to provision a new server this week - with something I can support ...
[17:09] <oru_work> I exported a database before running a script which caused problems, now i want to restore it to what it was before I ran the script. I exported databse in phpmyadmin, so how can I go about restoring it?
[17:16] <sherr> oru_work: don't know phymyadmin, but isn't there a "restore db" section/button as well?
[18:54] <zeeeeee> How do i disable the initial password to my server-  if i remote reboot, I lose connection, and have to manually take my keyboard and plug it into my server box and enter a password...
[18:56] <SpamapS> zeeeeee: like, a BIOS password?
[18:57] <zeeeeee> hmmm it seems like it's some sort of hd access password- once I enter it, it gives me the ubuntu-server main info page
[18:58] <zeeeeee> but there's no way (that I've figured out) to enter the password remotely
[18:58] <zeeeeee> upon rebooting
[18:58] <zeeeeee> surely it was some setting I enabled during install
[19:07] <patdk-wk> you can't
[19:07] <patdk-wk> if that is a harddrive password
[19:07] <patdk-wk> that has to be entered long before ubuntu starts
[19:08] <patdk-wk> to disable it is annoying, if possible
[19:13] <zeeeeee> it's harddrive encryption that i installed w/ubuntu server.  oi vei..  is there some encryptfs file I can delete?
[19:14] <patdk-wk> whole disk encryption?
[19:14] <patdk-wk> normal encryption setup by ubuntu is on the user level, not the whole system
[19:16] <patdk-wk> seems really pointless to have an encrypted system, where the system can boot without a password
[19:16] <patdk-wk> I can only guess your used cryptsetup to do it
[19:16] <patdk-wk> and in that case you need to modify your /etc/crypttab file
[19:18] <patdk-wk> http://linux.die.net/man/5/crypttab
[19:18] <patdk-wk> 3rd field, sets the password
[19:19] <patdk-wk> you will have to remake your initrd files
[19:26] <billybigrigger> anyone aware of a network stats program similar to top, and iotop?
[19:27] <patdk-wk> iftop?
[19:27] <billybigrigger> iftop
[19:27] <billybigrigger> there we go :)
[19:27] <patdk-wk> trafshow?
[19:27] <patdk-wk> heh
[19:27] <patdk-wk> there are like 10+ of them
[19:27] <billybigrigger> patdk-wk, thanks
[19:27] <giovani> or bmon :)
[20:01] <kees> soren: did you ever publish gfsharefs ?
[20:01] <lowridah> does anyone know the specific directive for a ks file so that server only installs base by itself?  not development or other parts, just base
[20:03] <lowridah> would it be %packages then @base without anything else?
[20:03] <lowridah> in 10.04 it seems to install a bunch of development libs if I do that
[20:06] <SpamapS> lowridah: you could just use the mini iso. ;)
[20:07] <lowridah> that's a workaround, I want to know how to do it right =)
[20:07] <lowridah> i'll just bang my head on it some more
[20:08] <lowridah> (right is probably by passing a preseed file I know)
[20:19] <soren> kees: I doubt it.
[20:19] <soren> kees: It seems not :(
[20:31] <webPragmatist> if you moved your /var/www to /srv/www (www is it's own partition) would you consider symlinking /var/www ?
[20:32] <webPragmatist> or maybe mount --bind
[20:39] <orudie> how can I check php log ?
[20:40] <SpamapS> webPragmatist: I'd change the configs
[20:40] <webPragmatist> SpamapS: well i have to do that anyway because i have like a jillion sites :)
[20:40] <SpamapS> webPragmatist: but given the amount of stuff that expects to be served from /var/www ... a symlink is probably in order. :)
[20:41] <webPragmatist> SpamapS: doesn't httpd stuff like a default site in there
[20:41] <webPragmatist> oh no it's just this index.html
[20:41] <kees> soren: if you send me a copy, I'd be happy to publish it!  :)
[20:42] <SpamapS> webPragmatist: no
[20:42] <orudie> php logs anyone ?
[20:42] <lowridah> um.
[20:43] <lowridah> turn on error reporting because I don't think there are php logs
[20:43] <lowridah> you should see the errrors in the httpd logs
[20:43] <lowridah> or edit your php.ini and add it
[20:44] <lowridah> here's a really good link about it
[20:44] <lowridah> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=php+log+file+location+ubuntu
[20:45] <Pici> !google | lowridah
[20:45] <lowridah> lol
[20:45] <lowridah> you seriosuly tell people not to google simple strings?
[20:45] <lowridah> that's ridiculous
[20:46] <Pici> lowridah: Thats the way we do things around here.
[20:46] <soren> kees: Appreciated :)
[20:46] <lowridah> wow here kinda sucks then
[20:46] <soren> kees: I wonder where it is :-/
[20:49] <kees> soren: nooo
[20:49] <kees> soren: no losing it!
[20:51] <soren> kees: I'm thousands of miles from home right now. I'm sure it's on one of my laptops at home.
[20:51] <soren> kees: Remind me in a couple of weeks.
[20:52] <kees> soren: hah, okay.  you in the states right now?
[20:53] <soren> kees: Oui. Austin.
[20:53] <soren> kees: I can see Dustin from here.
[20:53] <soren> kees: :)
[20:54] <kees> heh
[20:57] <guntbert> !away > Underbyte
[21:05] <peeps[work]> i restarted my server, and apache did not appear to start as normal.  i was able to start it manually, but i don't know why it didn't start on it's own, it worked ok before
[21:06] <peeps[work]> i also noticed this yesterday on my laptop running ubuntu, that boincd did not start when I rebooted.  is this a recent bug in ubuntu
[21:06] <peeps[work]> not sure if that issue is related but it seems like it
[21:10] <qman__> could be a race condition problem, but you'd have to do some testing to make sure
[21:12] <peeps[work]> qman__, how would i test such a thing?
[21:13] <qman__> I'm not exactly sure of the best way to go about that, far as logging the information
[21:14] <qman__> but a race condition is when something (ie apache) tries to start before something it depends on (ie the network) has finished starting, and fails
[21:14] <peeps[work]> if it attempted to start during boot and failed, would it be in any particular log file?  i don't know very well what everything in /var/log relates to
[21:14] <qman__> but then would start fine once the system is booted and you try it manually
[21:14] <qman__> it would
[21:14] <qman__> probably messages or syslog
[21:14] <qman__> there would also probably be something in apache/error.log
[21:21] <peeps[work]> qman__, what files configure what is run on startup?
[21:22] <qman__> I don't know where they're at now, since the change to upstart
[21:22] <peeps[work]> argh
[21:23] <qman__> looks like I still have /etc/init.d/apache2
[21:24] <peeps[work]> how does it know to call /etc/init.d/apache2.  is there a file that lists what to call in init.d, or what order?   or does it just automatically call everything in etc/init.d
[21:25] <qman__> well, there used to be sysvinit configuration, but now it's all upstart
[21:25] <qman__> looks like apache is still started the sysv way, just through upstart
[21:28] <peeps[work]> actually i had boinc on this server as well, and that doesn't start either
[21:28] <qman__> ah, it still has the rc?.d file structure
[21:28] <qman__> update-rc.d should work too
[21:29] <peeps[work]> *sigh* i don't understand this well enough.  i just don't get what could have broken it when it all worked fine before
[21:30] <peeps[work]> dammit i'm a software developer not a sysadmin
[21:31] <qman__> well, if you still have /etc/rc[2,3,4,5].d/S91apache2
[21:31] <qman__> it's telling apache to start
[21:32] <peeps[work]> qman__, ://paste.ubuntu.com/463152/
[21:33] <peeps[work]> i don't have any rc*.d/*apache
[21:34] <qman__> well, that explains it
[21:34] <qman__> not sure how it happened
[21:35] <qman__> sudo update-rc.d apache2 defaults
[21:35] <qman__> ought to fix it
[21:35] <qman__> err
[21:35] <qman__> sudo update-rc.d apache2 defaults 91
[21:36] <peeps[work]> what's 91 for?
[21:36] <qman__> that's the ordering
[21:36] <qman__> without it, it defaults to 20, which could cause it to start before it can run
[21:44] <peeps[work]> ahhhhhhh, cups is down too.  nothing freaking works
[21:52] <peeps[work]> qman__, i was mistaken, that find command did not work like i though it did.  I already have S91apache2 file
[22:15] <osmosis> what is "committed" memory?
[22:22] <webPragmatist> if i had to make an uneducated guess it would be memory that has been used by a process
[22:22] <webPragmatist> or "committed" to a process
[22:34] <peeps[work]> what is the pae in package linux-generic-pae ?  i've never seen this before
[22:37] <peeps[work]> it has the same package description as linux-generic
[22:41] <CppIsWeird> is git unsupported in ubuntu server 10.04?
[22:42] <thesheff17__> CppIsWeird: I use git all the time with no problem
[22:43] <CppIsWeird> what package do i install to get it?
[22:43] <thesheff17__> sudo apt-get install git-core
[22:46] <qman__> peeps[work], it has PAE enabled, which allows non-x64 kernels to use more than 4GB of RAM
[22:46] <peeps[work]> oh
[22:47] <qman__> aside from performance tweaks, the only place it can cause problems is with badly written drivers
[22:49] <CppIsWeird> thesheff, thx
[22:49] <thesheff17__> np
[22:49] <thesheff17__> if you can't find a package you can always do apt-cache search packageName
[22:50] <peeps[work]> still don't know how to fix my upstart issues
[22:50] <thesheff17__> what service is not working throug upstart?
[22:51] <peeps[work]> apache2, cups, boinc-client, maybe others that i haven't noticed yet
[22:51] <peeps[work]> they worked fine days before.  i restarted today and they did not come up automatically
[22:51] <thesheff17__> well I really new to 10.04 but I have still been using /etc/init.d/ scripts fine for apache2 and boinc
[22:52] <peeps[work]> and i tried another reboot and they didn't come up again
[22:52] <qman__> apache is still a sysv script, but upstart is doing all the sysv work now
[22:52] <thesheff17__> eventually will the init scripts go away?
[22:52] <qman__> yes
[22:53] <peeps[work]> i have some cron jobs i added recently, which might take a long time to run, could this possibly cause problems?
[22:53] <peeps[work]> that's the only thing i can think that's really changed
[22:53] <thesheff17__> apache should be instant
[22:53] <qman__> only if they run on startup
[22:54] <peeps[work]> i just put them in cron.daily, cron.weekly, cron.monthly.  i don't know if those get called on startup or not
[22:54] <thesheff17__> what is the method for adding a service to startup...I'm assuming update-rc.d is going to go away as well
[22:54] <thesheff17__> you shouldn't be starting services through cron
[22:54] <qman__> he isn't
[22:54] <thesheff17__> well for startup at least
[22:55] <peeps[work]> i'm not starting service through cron, i'm just saying the only thing that's changed is i added some cron jobs, they back up my files
[22:55] <thesheff17__> oh ok
[22:55] <qman__> anything in cron.daily, etc would only run on startup if you start up at the time it picked arbitrarily to run daily jobs
[22:55] <qman__> which would only be about a one minute window in the day
[22:56] <thesheff17__> do you still use update-rc.d for starting scripts on reboot?
[22:56] <thesheff17__> services I mean
[22:57] <qman__> for sysv-style ones
[22:57] <qman__> not sure about upstart jobs
[22:57] <thesheff17__> ok
[23:10] <peeps[work]> i tried asking for help in #upstart, but it's dead in there
[23:53] <ajaya> rshali?