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giampieroHello, I get an error message at startup, "no or unsupported wmi interface, unable to load", can anybody help?00:36
thepuppydoghowdy00:44
thepuppydogi got a problem running Xubuntu00:44
thepuppydogis there anyone in here who know anything about Xubuntu?00:46
_Techie_thepuppydog, there are ALOT of people in here who know ALOT about Xubuntu00:47
thepuppydogawesome!00:47
thepuppydogso i downloaded the 10.4LTS00:47
thepuppydoginstalled it on 2 machines now00:47
thepuppydogand it works good00:47
thepuppydogall up untill i run an update00:48
thepuppydogafter that... it will not run in normal graphics mode00:48
thepuppydogonly the low graphics mode on the fail-safe boot option00:48
thepuppydogwhy is it doing that?00:48
_Techie_thepuppydog, i suggest holding back packages related to xorg when updating then00:48
thepuppydogso its a known issue, eh?00:49
thepuppydogi mean00:49
thepuppydogit had done it on 2 compleatly differnt systems00:49
_Techie_thepuppydog, i would think it would most likely be caused by driver updates... and i havent seen it before, but then again i dont lurk in here very often anymore00:49
thepuppydogand i have Mint 9 with the L Desktop running on them just fine00:49
_Techie_can you pastebin some files for me?00:50
thepuppydoguh00:50
thepuppydogok00:50
thepuppydoglet me set up an FTP server00:51
thepuppydogthis is not the system in question00:51
_Techie_umm, if i remember correctly the file i want is /var/log/Xorg.0.log00:51
_Techie_thepuppydog, also please bear in mind that i do not use Xubuntu anymore and havent for quite a few months... i am only really here to help with what i can00:52
thepuppydogwell thanks for what you can, man00:52
thepuppydogi do aper the help00:52
thepuppydoggive me just one sec00:52
thepuppydogi am booting up the system now00:52
thepuppydogwhat flavor do you run?00:53
_Techie_thepuppydog, im currently only using Windows 7, when my student loan gets processed and i buy my new computer, then i will start dabbling again00:54
thepuppydogi dont follow that logic in any why00:55
thepuppydogbut hey00:55
thepuppydogat least you understand it00:55
thepuppydog:P00:55
_Techie_anyway, brb a sec gotta call up studylink and get them to finalize the application00:55
thepuppydogok00:56
thepuppydogi'll get that file for ya00:56
thepuppydogwelp this sucks01:07
thepuppydogit crashed01:07
thepuppydoghow typical01:07
thepuppydogyou there, _techie_??01:11
_Techie_yeah01:11
thepuppydogright on01:11
thepuppydogyou want me to sent the file?01:11
_Techie_yes please01:12
_Techie_if i cant figure it out then atleast its somethign for the next person to look over01:12
thepuppydogyeah01:12
thepuppydogok01:12
thepuppydogyou want the Xorg.log file?01:12
_Techie_yes please01:13
thepuppydogcause there are several .old files too01:13
thepuppydog2i can not figure out how to load a file in this Xchat!01:16
_Techie_thepuppydog2 pastebin the contents of the log files01:17
_Techie_!paste01:17
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.01:17
thepuppydog2ok01:17
thepuppydog2X.Org X Server 1.7.601:18
thepuppydog2Release Date: 2010-03-1701:18
thepuppydog2X Protocol Version 11, Revision 001:18
thepuppydog2Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.24-27-server i686 Ubuntu01:18
thepuppydog2Current Operating System: Linux mario-Xbuntu-laptop 2.6.32-23-generic #37-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jun 11 07:54:58 UTC 2010 i68601:18
thepuppydog2Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-23-generic root=UUID=1439c7a4-b5f4-44b9-aca0-7ceff18d639c ro acpi=off quiet splash01:18
thepuppydog2Build Date: 16 June 2010  09:31:32AM01:18
thepuppydog2xorg-server 2:1.7.6-2ubuntu7.2 (For technical support please see http://www.ubuntu.com/support)01:18
thepuppydog2Current version of pixman: 0.16.401:18
thepuppydog2Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org01:18
thepuppydog2to make sure that you have the latest version.01:18
thepuppydog2Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,01:18
thepuppydog2(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,01:18
thepuppydog2(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.01:18
thepuppydog2(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Mon Jul 12 17:21:01 201001:18
thepuppydog2(==) Using config directory: "/usr/lib/X11/xorg.conf.d"01:18
thepuppydog2(==) No Layout section.  Using the first Screen section.01:18
thepuppydog2(==) No screen section available. Using defaults.01:18
thepuppydog2(**) |-->Screen "Default Screen Section" (0)01:18
thepuppydog2(**) |   |-->Monitor "<default monitor>"01:18
thepuppydog2(==) No monitor specified for screen "Default Screen Section".01:18
thepuppydog2Using a default monitor configuration.01:18
thepuppydog2(==) Automatically adding devices01:18
thepuppydog2(==) Automatically enabling devices01:18
thepuppydog2(WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic" does not exist.01:18
thepuppydog2Entry deleted from font path.01:18
thepuppydog2(==) FontPath set to:01:18
thepuppydog2/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc,01:18
thepuppydog2/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled,01:18
thepuppydog2/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled,01:18
thepuppydog2/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1,01:19
thepuppydog2/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi,01:19
thepuppydog2/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi,01:19
thepuppydog2/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType,01:19
thepuppydog2built-ins01:19
thepuppydog2(==) ModulePath set to "/usr/lib/xorg/extra-modules,/usr/lib/xorg/modules"01:19
thepuppydog2(II) The server relies on udev to provide the list of input devices.01:19
thepuppydog2If no devices become available, reconfigure udev or disable AutoAddDevices.01:19
thepuppydog2(II) Loader magic: 0x81f0e8001:19
thepuppydog2(II) Module ABI versions:01:19
thepuppydog2X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.401:19
thepuppydog2X.Org Video Driver: 6.001:19
thepuppydog2end of log01:19
thepuppydogany help?01:23
_Techie_thepuppydog, in future please paste all large amount of text to pastebin, and not directly into the channel01:24
_Techie_thepuppydog i cant seem to find anything wrong01:25
thepuppydogi dont know how to do that01:26
thepuppydogi am brand spanking new to IRC01:26
thepuppydogbut i gtg01:27
thepuppydogthanks any way01:27
thepuppydogtechie02:08
thepuppydogyou still in here?02:08
jiohdiif the screen saver is set to disabled, why would the screen still blank after a while?04:16
likemindeadPower Saving settings.04:17
likemindeadPower Manager, rather.04:17
jiohdipowersaver is on the same panel under advanced, set to off04:17
jiohdilikemindead: you were right, there was a second power management setter04:19
likemindead:D04:21
jiohdiit was set to 30 min04:21
xubuntu_userhello?06:50
xubuntu_userum...trying to figure it out a error I got from using google chrome also how do I make the main browser.06:51
xubuntu_userdon't tell me make as default I know that already something like whenever a program opens some of them open up firefox instead don't know why?06:52
xubuntu_usersince Chrome is as the defualt on the preferred applications.06:53
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DeRoSvOsHey all, I upgraded to 10.04 LTS via Upgrade Manager... when I did that, my GUI stopped in Normal... it works in Recovery Mode.  When I try to install from a fresh 10.04 DVD, it flashes the logo for a second, then black screen...16:36
ron_ohehe, linux is too cool. Need more swap space? Just add another partition on another drive...16:49
ron_oI'm thinking the reason why my suspend keeps acting abnormally is because not enough swap space. So much for smaller is better.16:49
ron_oDeRoSvOs, I couldn't solve your problem but obviously it has to do with xorg.conf .... I would make copies of my old /etc/X11/xorg.conf and see if other ones work for you.16:51
ron_ojust make sure you have a text editor that works in your terminal so you can change it back if you need to.16:52
TheSheepron_o: it's even better, you can just add a file for swap16:53
TheSheepron_o: and since kernel 2.6 it's as fast as a partition16:53
ron_oTheSheep, yah.. but I hear you shouldn't...16:53
TheSheepron_o: why not?16:53
ron_odoes the file grow or is it static in size?16:53
ron_oI mean, it's better to use a partition.16:53
TheSheepstatic16:55
TheSheepron_o: "better" how?16:55
ron_oI've always heard it. I never knew why.16:56
TheSheepthat's how cargo cults are born16:56
TheSheepit used to be faster in older kernels16:56
ron_oI bet Windows dynamic swap is one reason there's some fragmentation on the drive.16:56
ron_oI barely use my swap anyway.16:57
TheSheepwell, linux filesystems work completely differently and you use static size of swap anyways (but you can add more files if needed)16:57
TheSheepalso, if you have several physical disks, it's good to have a swap for each of them16:58
TheSheepthen the reading/writing can be spread and is faster overall16:58
DeRoSvOsWhat if the latest XUbuntu 10.04 DVD doesn't work on install?  Get the logo, then a flash, then black screen?16:58
DeRoSvOsOff the DVD.16:58
ron_oDeRoSvOs, what video card do you have?16:59
TheSheepDeRoSvOs: did you check the disk? there is an option for this in the menu16:59
ron_oI have NVIDIA so I have to adjust things after an upgrade.16:59
DeRoSvOsWell, I can see the install, and when I hit enter to install, it just goes black.17:00
DeRoSvOsI don't see a "video" option per say.17:00
ron_ono.. he means "Check Disk" option.17:00
ron_osome burns are bad.17:00
DeRoSvOsWaiting on the lspci output.  My buddy's on the phone with me, he's the one with the problem. ;)  lol17:02
ron_oand you're typing what he's saying?17:03
ron_oactually, it sounds like his problem *is* your problem.17:03
DeRoSvOsron_o:  Yeah, typing what he's saying.17:10
DeRoSvOsron_o:  I told him he should consider another distro.  I hate to do this.  I hate to refer to another Distro.  I'm a CentOS guy, myself.17:10
DeRoSvOsron_o:  Just, I know the problem is with Xorg... I just can't figure out WHY it's a problem.17:11
DeRoSvOsron_o:  Is the default conf in /etc/X11/17:11
DeRoSvOs?17:11
ron_othere are usually several xorg files as well as the default one on /etc/X1117:11
ron_oin *17:11
ron_oCentOS, isn't that for servers?17:12
DeRoSvOsron_o:  No?  You can run X on it and run it bare bones without services.17:14
DeRoSvOsron_o:  It's upstream is Redhat, that's all.  Diff packaging managers.17:14
ron_oI just looked it up. But it's mainly for servers.17:14
ron_oI see.17:14
ron_onothing is easier than Ubuntu.17:14
ron_omaybe Mint...17:15
DeRoSvOsron_o:  In tihs case, it's not really easy. ;)  The people on #Ubuntu aren't even addressing me because I use Xubuntu.17:15
ron_oyah, I know. I don't even go there.17:15
DeRoSvOsThey see the X and go, "Go to XUbuntu"17:15
DeRoSvOslol17:15
ron_oyah.17:15
DeRoSvOsI never force my distro of choice on anyone, but, this time around... 2 x DVD burns... no success.17:15
ron_oI've run sevarel OSs in virtual environment, VBox, but it's not the same on a computer. All hardware always works in a virtual environ, from what I've ever noticed.17:17
ross_Hello! I am having an audio issue. It works fine but then about 5 minutes into using an application it will suddenly cut out, but only for that application.18:55
nicofsevery time i click on a link that opens in firefox, firefox switches to the workspace i am on. i don't want that - how can i make firefox stay in its workspace?22:46
Sysiwindow manager settings22:48
Sysi\tweaks22:48
SysiIMO that default is stupid22:49
well_laid_lawn+122:49
nicofscan someone help me set my cpu's speed? somehow governor and powernowd don't work...22:57
well_laid_lawnnicofs: which governor?22:59
nicofswell_laid_lawn: it's called governor plugin and is a button in my task bar...23:00
well_laid_lawnnicofs: is the cpufreqd daemon required for it?23:01
nicofswell_laid_lawn: is there a way for me to find out? to be honest i was quite desperate and installed quite a lot of progs to get it working...23:02
well_laid_lawnnicofs: apart from reading up on it on the site you got the plugin from I wouldn't know23:03
nicofswell_laid_lawn: cpufreqd is not installed... so i think it might not be required...23:03
well_laid_lawnnicofs: with cpufreqd running I use a bash script to change mine23:04
well_laid_lawnnicofs: is the plugin from ubuntu repo?23:04
nicofswell_laid_lawn: if i install cpufreqd could you talk me through that? // i found it... "governor plugin for the Xfce4 panel" apparently it is from the ubuntu repo...23:05
well_laid_lawnnicofs: there might be some docs for it in /usr/share/doc23:06
nicofswell_laid_lawn: no...23:08
nicofswell_laid_lawn: but i can live without that plugin... that bash script thing sounds interesting - i have never done that before so i might learn something...23:09
well_laid_lawnnicofs: just pasting it now23:09
well_laid_lawnnicofs: http://paste.ubuntu.com/463205/23:10
well_laid_lawnyou need to add a line to /etc/init.d/rc.local I think it is called - not on a buntu box atm23:11
well_laid_lawnnicofs:23:11
nicofswell_laid_lawn: anywhere in init.d ? i have cpu0 and cpu1 - which should i choose?23:15
well_laid_lawnnicofs: they both get changed at the same time23:15
well_laid_lawnnicofs: there is a local file in init.d where you add that line23:16
well_laid_lawna file named local nicofs23:16
well_laid_lawn*23:16
nicofswell_laid_lawn: sorry, my mistake - i meant that "rc.local" file... i  inserted the line right after the end of the comment...23:17
well_laid_lawnnicofs: it needs to be on a line of its' own23:18
nicofswell_laid_lawn: ok, did that - what irritated my is that this line is about cpu1 whereas the script is about cpu0...23:19
well_laid_lawnnicofs: if you do one the other cpu changes at he same time23:19
well_laid_lawncan't just change one23:19
well_laid_lawnI've tried and tried and...23:20
nicofswell_laid_lawn: right... i saved the code you pastebined as "cpu-scaling.bash" on my desktop...23:21
nicofswell_laid_lawn: i need to make it executable, don't i?23:21
well_laid_lawnnicofs: then right click, select properties and then the box making it executable23:21
nicofswell_laid_lawn: ok... that box isn't there...23:22
well_laid_lawnnicofs: I forgot to mention selecting the permissions tab23:23
well_laid_lawn...23:23
nicofswell_laid_lawn: i figured that :-) still no box...23:24
nicofswell_laid_lawn: mybe wrong owner?23:24
well_laid_lawnnicofs: do it from terminal   chmod +x /path/to/cpu-scaling.bash23:24
nicofswell_laid_lawn: done23:26
nicofswell_laid_lawn: it told me my current speed...23:26
well_laid_lawnnicofs: you haven't used the line you put in init.d 'cause you haven't rebooted - copy that line to terminal and put sudo in front23:27
nicofswell_laid_lawn: hmm... that makes sense... i actually do understand (to a certain extent) what i am doing here...23:28
nicofswell_laid_lawn: ok. in that line i had to swap cpu1 for cpu0 in order for it to work - i then got a menu to choose from. but i chose 1GHz and after that it said current speed 1,66 ...23:31
well_laid_lawnnicofs: what is it normally pls?23:31
nicofswell_laid_lawn: supported are 1000, 1330 and 1660. and normally it's at 1660 all the time... which is annoying...23:32
well_laid_lawnnicofs: it sounds like the chmod didn't work...23:33
well_laid_lawnnicofs: I forgot you need to be using the   userspace   governor23:34
nicofswell_laid_lawn: it had an effect... before that i didn't have the menu... how do i do that...23:34
well_laid_lawnnicofs: in /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_governors what is now available?23:35
nicofswell_laid_lawn: "conservative ondemand userspace powersave performance"23:37
well_laid_lawnnicofs: cpufreqd has a conf file in /etc where you can set the default governor23:38
nicofswell_laid_lawn: and i should set that to userspace... all right...23:39
well_laid_lawnyep23:39
well_laid_lawnnicofs: then   sudo service cpufreqd restart   afaik23:40
nicofswell_laid_lawn: i can't find a specifig default governor... there are only profiles with entries for "policy"... change them to userspace?23:44
well_laid_lawnnicofs: one min23:44
well_laid_lawnnicofs: here there is a folder /etc/conf.d that has the cpufreq conf file in it that lets you select the governor23:46
nicofswell_laid_lawn: my cpufreqd.conf was in /etc/ ...23:47
well_laid_lawnnicofs: it is a seperate file without the .conf at the end23:48
nicofswell_laid_lawn: i don't have /etc/conf.d23:49
well_laid_lawnnicofs: then make sure the performance profiles use   userspace   as the governor23:50
well_laid_lawnin cpufreqd.conf23:50
nicofswell_laid_lawn: done and service restarted...23:51
well_laid_lawnnicofs: try the script23:51
nicofswell_laid_lawn: no change... refuses to go below 1,66GHz23:52
well_laid_lawnnicofs: look in /etc/default for a cpufreq file23:52
nicofswell_laid_lawn: CPUFREQ_GOV_MODULES="auto" --> CPUFREQ_GOV_MODULES="userspace" ?23:54
well_laid_lawnnicofs: yep23:54
nicofswell_laid_lawn: changed that restarted service, no change...23:55
nicofswell_laid_lawn: should i reboot, just in case...?23:56
well_laid_lawnnicofs: worth a shot23:56
nicofswell_laid_lawn: i'm good at shooting...^^23:56
well_laid_lawnheh23:56
nicofswell_laid_lawn: hmm... menu's gone...23:59

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