[00:36] <giampiero> Hello, I get an error message at startup, "no or unsupported wmi interface, unable to load", can anybody help?
[00:44] <thepuppydog> howdy
[00:44] <thepuppydog> i got a problem running Xubuntu
[00:46] <thepuppydog> is there anyone in here who know anything about Xubuntu?
[00:47] <_Techie_> thepuppydog, there are ALOT of people in here who know ALOT about Xubuntu
[00:47] <thepuppydog> awesome!
[00:47] <thepuppydog> so i downloaded the 10.4LTS
[00:47] <thepuppydog> installed it on 2 machines now
[00:47] <thepuppydog> and it works good
[00:48] <thepuppydog> all up untill i run an update
[00:48] <thepuppydog> after that... it will not run in normal graphics mode
[00:48] <thepuppydog> only the low graphics mode on the fail-safe boot option
[00:48] <thepuppydog> why is it doing that?
[00:48] <_Techie_> thepuppydog, i suggest holding back packages related to xorg when updating then
[00:49] <thepuppydog> so its a known issue, eh?
[00:49] <thepuppydog> i mean
[00:49] <thepuppydog> it had done it on 2 compleatly differnt systems
[00:49] <_Techie_> thepuppydog, i would think it would most likely be caused by driver updates... and i havent seen it before, but then again i dont lurk in here very often anymore
[00:49] <thepuppydog> and i have Mint 9 with the L Desktop running on them just fine
[00:50] <_Techie_> can you pastebin some files for me?
[00:50] <thepuppydog> uh
[00:50] <thepuppydog> ok
[00:51] <thepuppydog> let me set up an FTP server
[00:51] <thepuppydog> this is not the system in question
[00:51] <_Techie_> umm, if i remember correctly the file i want is /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[00:52] <_Techie_> thepuppydog, also please bear in mind that i do not use Xubuntu anymore and havent for quite a few months... i am only really here to help with what i can
[00:52] <thepuppydog> well thanks for what you can, man
[00:52] <thepuppydog> i do aper the help
[00:52] <thepuppydog> give me just one sec
[00:52] <thepuppydog> i am booting up the system now
[00:53] <thepuppydog> what flavor do you run?
[00:54] <_Techie_> thepuppydog, im currently only using Windows 7, when my student loan gets processed and i buy my new computer, then i will start dabbling again
[00:55] <thepuppydog> i dont follow that logic in any why
[00:55] <thepuppydog> but hey
[00:55] <thepuppydog> at least you understand it
[00:55] <thepuppydog> :P
[00:55] <_Techie_> anyway, brb a sec gotta call up studylink and get them to finalize the application
[00:56] <thepuppydog> ok
[00:56] <thepuppydog> i'll get that file for ya
[01:07] <thepuppydog> welp this sucks
[01:07] <thepuppydog> it crashed
[01:07] <thepuppydog> how typical
[01:11] <thepuppydog> you there, _techie_??
[01:11] <_Techie_> yeah
[01:11] <thepuppydog> right on
[01:11] <thepuppydog> you want me to sent the file?
[01:12] <_Techie_> yes please
[01:12] <_Techie_> if i cant figure it out then atleast its somethign for the next person to look over
[01:12] <thepuppydog> yeah
[01:12] <thepuppydog> ok
[01:12] <thepuppydog> you want the Xorg.log file?
[01:13] <_Techie_> yes please
[01:13] <thepuppydog> cause there are several .old files too
[01:16] <thepuppydog2> i can not figure out how to load a file in this Xchat!
[01:17] <_Techie_> thepuppydog2 pastebin the contents of the log files
[01:17] <_Techie_> !paste
[01:17] <thepuppydog2> ok
[01:18] <thepuppydog2> X.Org X Server 1.7.6
[01:18] <thepuppydog2> Release Date: 2010-03-17
[01:18] <thepuppydog2> X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
[01:18] <thepuppydog2> Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.24-27-server i686 Ubuntu
[01:18] <thepuppydog2> Current Operating System: Linux mario-Xbuntu-laptop 2.6.32-23-generic #37-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jun 11 07:54:58 UTC 2010 i686
[01:18] <thepuppydog2> Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-23-generic root=UUID=1439c7a4-b5f4-44b9-aca0-7ceff18d639c ro acpi=off quiet splash
[01:18] <thepuppydog2> Build Date: 16 June 2010  09:31:32AM
[01:18] <thepuppydog2> xorg-server 2:1.7.6-2ubuntu7.2 (For technical support please see http://www.ubuntu.com/support)
[01:18] <thepuppydog2> Current version of pixman: 0.16.4
[01:18] <thepuppydog2> 	Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
[01:18] <thepuppydog2> 	to make sure that you have the latest version.
[01:18] <thepuppydog2> Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
[01:18] <thepuppydog2> 	(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
[01:18] <thepuppydog2> 	(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
[01:18] <thepuppydog2> (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Mon Jul 12 17:21:01 2010
[01:18] <thepuppydog2> (==) Using config directory: "/usr/lib/X11/xorg.conf.d"
[01:18] <thepuppydog2> (==) No Layout section.  Using the first Screen section.
[01:18] <thepuppydog2> (==) No screen section available. Using defaults.
[01:18] <thepuppydog2> (**) |-->Screen "Default Screen Section" (0)
[01:18] <thepuppydog2> (**) |   |-->Monitor "<default monitor>"
[01:18] <thepuppydog2> (==) No monitor specified for screen "Default Screen Section".
[01:18] <thepuppydog2> 	Using a default monitor configuration.
[01:18] <thepuppydog2> (==) Automatically adding devices
[01:18] <thepuppydog2> (==) Automatically enabling devices
[01:18] <thepuppydog2> (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic" does not exist.
[01:18] <thepuppydog2> 	Entry deleted from font path.
[01:18] <thepuppydog2> (==) FontPath set to:
[01:18] <thepuppydog2> 	/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc,
[01:18] <thepuppydog2> 	/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled,
[01:18] <thepuppydog2> 	/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled,
[01:19] <thepuppydog2> 	/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1,
[01:19] <thepuppydog2> 	/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi,
[01:19] <thepuppydog2> 	/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi,
[01:19] <thepuppydog2> 	/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType,
[01:19] <thepuppydog2> 	built-ins
[01:19] <thepuppydog2> (==) ModulePath set to "/usr/lib/xorg/extra-modules,/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
[01:19] <thepuppydog2> (II) The server relies on udev to provide the list of input devices.
[01:19] <thepuppydog2> 	If no devices become available, reconfigure udev or disable AutoAddDevices.
[01:19] <thepuppydog2> (II) Loader magic: 0x81f0e80
[01:19] <thepuppydog2> (II) Module ABI versions:
[01:19] <thepuppydog2> 	X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4
[01:19] <thepuppydog2> 	X.Org Video Driver: 6.0
[01:19] <thepuppydog2> end of log
[01:23] <thepuppydog> any help?
[01:24] <_Techie_> thepuppydog, in future please paste all large amount of text to pastebin, and not directly into the channel
[01:25] <_Techie_> thepuppydog i cant seem to find anything wrong
[01:26] <thepuppydog> i dont know how to do that
[01:26] <thepuppydog> i am brand spanking new to IRC
[01:27] <thepuppydog> but i gtg
[01:27] <thepuppydog> thanks any way
[02:08] <thepuppydog> techie
[02:08] <thepuppydog> you still in here?
[04:16] <jiohdi> if the screen saver is set to disabled, why would the screen still blank after a while?
[04:17] <likemindead> Power Saving settings.
[04:17] <likemindead> Power Manager, rather.
[04:17] <jiohdi> powersaver is on the same panel under advanced, set to off
[04:19] <jiohdi> likemindead: you were right, there was a second power management setter
[04:21] <likemindead> :D
[04:21] <jiohdi> it was set to 30 min
[06:50] <xubuntu_user> hello?
[06:51] <xubuntu_user> um...trying to figure it out a error I got from using google chrome also how do I make the main browser.
[06:52] <xubuntu_user> don't tell me make as default I know that already something like whenever a program opens some of them open up firefox instead don't know why?
[06:53] <xubuntu_user> since Chrome is as the defualt on the preferred applications.
[13:49] <slow-motion> bbl
[15:11] <xubuntu797> upsss
[16:36] <DeRoSvOs> Hey all, I upgraded to 10.04 LTS via Upgrade Manager... when I did that, my GUI stopped in Normal... it works in Recovery Mode.  When I try to install from a fresh 10.04 DVD, it flashes the logo for a second, then black screen...
[16:49] <ron_o> hehe, linux is too cool. Need more swap space? Just add another partition on another drive...
[16:49] <ron_o> I'm thinking the reason why my suspend keeps acting abnormally is because not enough swap space. So much for smaller is better.
[16:51] <ron_o> DeRoSvOs, I couldn't solve your problem but obviously it has to do with xorg.conf .... I would make copies of my old /etc/X11/xorg.conf and see if other ones work for you.
[16:52] <ron_o> just make sure you have a text editor that works in your terminal so you can change it back if you need to.
[16:53] <TheSheep> ron_o: it's even better, you can just add a file for swap
[16:53] <TheSheep> ron_o: and since kernel 2.6 it's as fast as a partition
[16:53] <ron_o> TheSheep, yah.. but I hear you shouldn't...
[16:53] <TheSheep> ron_o: why not?
[16:53] <ron_o> does the file grow or is it static in size?
[16:53] <ron_o> I mean, it's better to use a partition.
[16:55] <TheSheep> static
[16:55] <TheSheep> ron_o: "better" how?
[16:56] <ron_o> I've always heard it. I never knew why.
[16:56] <TheSheep> that's how cargo cults are born
[16:56] <TheSheep> it used to be faster in older kernels
[16:56] <ron_o> I bet Windows dynamic swap is one reason there's some fragmentation on the drive.
[16:57] <ron_o> I barely use my swap anyway.
[16:57] <TheSheep> well, linux filesystems work completely differently and you use static size of swap anyways (but you can add more files if needed)
[16:58] <TheSheep> also, if you have several physical disks, it's good to have a swap for each of them
[16:58] <TheSheep> then the reading/writing can be spread and is faster overall
[16:58] <DeRoSvOs> What if the latest XUbuntu 10.04 DVD doesn't work on install?  Get the logo, then a flash, then black screen?
[16:58] <DeRoSvOs> Off the DVD.
[16:59] <ron_o> DeRoSvOs, what video card do you have?
[16:59] <TheSheep> DeRoSvOs: did you check the disk? there is an option for this in the menu
[16:59] <ron_o> I have NVIDIA so I have to adjust things after an upgrade.
[17:00] <DeRoSvOs> Well, I can see the install, and when I hit enter to install, it just goes black.
[17:00] <DeRoSvOs> I don't see a "video" option per say.
[17:00] <ron_o> no.. he means "Check Disk" option.
[17:00] <ron_o> some burns are bad.
[17:02] <DeRoSvOs> Waiting on the lspci output.  My buddy's on the phone with me, he's the one with the problem. ;)  lol
[17:03] <ron_o> and you're typing what he's saying?
[17:03] <ron_o> actually, it sounds like his problem *is* your problem.
[17:10] <DeRoSvOs> ron_o:  Yeah, typing what he's saying.
[17:10] <DeRoSvOs> ron_o:  I told him he should consider another distro.  I hate to do this.  I hate to refer to another Distro.  I'm a CentOS guy, myself.
[17:11] <DeRoSvOs> ron_o:  Just, I know the problem is with Xorg... I just can't figure out WHY it's a problem.
[17:11] <DeRoSvOs> ron_o:  Is the default conf in /etc/X11/
[17:11] <DeRoSvOs> ?
[17:11] <ron_o> there are usually several xorg files as well as the default one on /etc/X11
[17:11] <ron_o> in *
[17:12] <ron_o> CentOS, isn't that for servers?
[17:14] <DeRoSvOs> ron_o:  No?  You can run X on it and run it bare bones without services.
[17:14] <DeRoSvOs> ron_o:  It's upstream is Redhat, that's all.  Diff packaging managers.
[17:14] <ron_o> I just looked it up. But it's mainly for servers.
[17:14] <ron_o> I see.
[17:14] <ron_o> nothing is easier than Ubuntu.
[17:15] <ron_o> maybe Mint...
[17:15] <DeRoSvOs> ron_o:  In tihs case, it's not really easy. ;)  The people on #Ubuntu aren't even addressing me because I use Xubuntu.
[17:15] <ron_o> yah, I know. I don't even go there.
[17:15] <DeRoSvOs> They see the X and go, "Go to XUbuntu"
[17:15] <DeRoSvOs> lol
[17:15] <ron_o> yah.
[17:15] <DeRoSvOs> I never force my distro of choice on anyone, but, this time around... 2 x DVD burns... no success.
[17:17] <ron_o> I've run sevarel OSs in virtual environment, VBox, but it's not the same on a computer. All hardware always works in a virtual environ, from what I've ever noticed.
[18:55] <ross_> Hello! I am having an audio issue. It works fine but then about 5 minutes into using an application it will suddenly cut out, but only for that application.
[22:46] <nicofs> every time i click on a link that opens in firefox, firefox switches to the workspace i am on. i don't want that - how can i make firefox stay in its workspace?
[22:48] <Sysi> window manager settings
[22:48] <Sysi> \tweaks
[22:49] <Sysi> IMO that default is stupid
[22:49] <well_laid_lawn> +1
[22:57] <nicofs> can someone help me set my cpu's speed? somehow governor and powernowd don't work...
[22:59] <well_laid_lawn> nicofs: which governor?
[23:00] <nicofs> well_laid_lawn: it's called governor plugin and is a button in my task bar...
[23:01] <well_laid_lawn> nicofs: is the cpufreqd daemon required for it?
[23:02] <nicofs> well_laid_lawn: is there a way for me to find out? to be honest i was quite desperate and installed quite a lot of progs to get it working...
[23:03] <well_laid_lawn> nicofs: apart from reading up on it on the site you got the plugin from I wouldn't know
[23:03] <nicofs> well_laid_lawn: cpufreqd is not installed... so i think it might not be required...
[23:04] <well_laid_lawn> nicofs: with cpufreqd running I use a bash script to change mine
[23:04] <well_laid_lawn> nicofs: is the plugin from ubuntu repo?
[23:05] <nicofs> well_laid_lawn: if i install cpufreqd could you talk me through that? // i found it... "governor plugin for the Xfce4 panel" apparently it is from the ubuntu repo...
[23:06] <well_laid_lawn> nicofs: there might be some docs for it in /usr/share/doc
[23:08] <nicofs> well_laid_lawn: no...
[23:09] <nicofs> well_laid_lawn: but i can live without that plugin... that bash script thing sounds interesting - i have never done that before so i might learn something...
[23:09] <well_laid_lawn> nicofs: just pasting it now
[23:10] <well_laid_lawn> nicofs: http://paste.ubuntu.com/463205/
[23:11] <well_laid_lawn> you need to add a line to /etc/init.d/rc.local I think it is called - not on a buntu box atm
[23:11] <well_laid_lawn> nicofs:
[23:15] <nicofs> well_laid_lawn: anywhere in init.d ? i have cpu0 and cpu1 - which should i choose?
[23:15] <well_laid_lawn> nicofs: they both get changed at the same time
[23:16] <well_laid_lawn> nicofs: there is a local file in init.d where you add that line
[23:16] <well_laid_lawn> a file named local nicofs
[23:16] <well_laid_lawn> *
[23:17] <nicofs> well_laid_lawn: sorry, my mistake - i meant that "rc.local" file... i  inserted the line right after the end of the comment...
[23:18] <well_laid_lawn> nicofs: it needs to be on a line of its' own
[23:19] <nicofs> well_laid_lawn: ok, did that - what irritated my is that this line is about cpu1 whereas the script is about cpu0...
[23:19] <well_laid_lawn> nicofs: if you do one the other cpu changes at he same time
[23:19] <well_laid_lawn> can't just change one
[23:20] <well_laid_lawn> I've tried and tried and...
[23:21] <nicofs> well_laid_lawn: right... i saved the code you pastebined as "cpu-scaling.bash" on my desktop...
[23:21] <nicofs> well_laid_lawn: i need to make it executable, don't i?
[23:21] <well_laid_lawn> nicofs: then right click, select properties and then the box making it executable
[23:22] <nicofs> well_laid_lawn: ok... that box isn't there...
[23:23] <well_laid_lawn> nicofs: I forgot to mention selecting the permissions tab
[23:23] <well_laid_lawn> ...
[23:24] <nicofs> well_laid_lawn: i figured that :-) still no box...
[23:24] <nicofs> well_laid_lawn: mybe wrong owner?
[23:24] <well_laid_lawn> nicofs: do it from terminal   chmod +x /path/to/cpu-scaling.bash
[23:26] <nicofs> well_laid_lawn: done
[23:26] <nicofs> well_laid_lawn: it told me my current speed...
[23:27] <well_laid_lawn> nicofs: you haven't used the line you put in init.d 'cause you haven't rebooted - copy that line to terminal and put sudo in front
[23:28] <nicofs> well_laid_lawn: hmm... that makes sense... i actually do understand (to a certain extent) what i am doing here...
[23:31] <nicofs> well_laid_lawn: ok. in that line i had to swap cpu1 for cpu0 in order for it to work - i then got a menu to choose from. but i chose 1GHz and after that it said current speed 1,66 ...
[23:31] <well_laid_lawn> nicofs: what is it normally pls?
[23:32] <nicofs> well_laid_lawn: supported are 1000, 1330 and 1660. and normally it's at 1660 all the time... which is annoying...
[23:33] <well_laid_lawn> nicofs: it sounds like the chmod didn't work...
[23:34] <well_laid_lawn> nicofs: I forgot you need to be using the   userspace   governor
[23:34] <nicofs> well_laid_lawn: it had an effect... before that i didn't have the menu... how do i do that...
[23:35] <well_laid_lawn> nicofs: in /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_governors what is now available?
[23:37] <nicofs> well_laid_lawn: "conservative ondemand userspace powersave performance"
[23:38] <well_laid_lawn> nicofs: cpufreqd has a conf file in /etc where you can set the default governor
[23:39] <nicofs> well_laid_lawn: and i should set that to userspace... all right...
[23:39] <well_laid_lawn> yep
[23:40] <well_laid_lawn> nicofs: then   sudo service cpufreqd restart   afaik
[23:44] <nicofs> well_laid_lawn: i can't find a specifig default governor... there are only profiles with entries for "policy"... change them to userspace?
[23:44] <well_laid_lawn> nicofs: one min
[23:46] <well_laid_lawn> nicofs: here there is a folder /etc/conf.d that has the cpufreq conf file in it that lets you select the governor
[23:47] <nicofs> well_laid_lawn: my cpufreqd.conf was in /etc/ ...
[23:48] <well_laid_lawn> nicofs: it is a seperate file without the .conf at the end
[23:49] <nicofs> well_laid_lawn: i don't have /etc/conf.d
[23:50] <well_laid_lawn> nicofs: then make sure the performance profiles use   userspace   as the governor
[23:50] <well_laid_lawn> in cpufreqd.conf
[23:51] <nicofs> well_laid_lawn: done and service restarted...
[23:51] <well_laid_lawn> nicofs: try the script
[23:52] <nicofs> well_laid_lawn: no change... refuses to go below 1,66GHz
[23:52] <well_laid_lawn> nicofs: look in /etc/default for a cpufreq file
[23:54] <nicofs> well_laid_lawn: CPUFREQ_GOV_MODULES="auto" --> CPUFREQ_GOV_MODULES="userspace" ?
[23:54] <well_laid_lawn> nicofs: yep
[23:55] <nicofs> well_laid_lawn: changed that restarted service, no change...
[23:56] <nicofs> well_laid_lawn: should i reboot, just in case...?
[23:56] <well_laid_lawn> nicofs: worth a shot
[23:56] <nicofs> well_laid_lawn: i'm good at shooting...^^
[23:56] <well_laid_lawn> heh
[23:59] <nicofs> well_laid_lawn: hmm... menu's gone...