[18:07] <omar> hello
[18:08] <omar> is there software in edubuntu that can be used t monitor desktop and limit internet usage
[18:08] <omar> im new to edubuntu
[18:26] <highvoltage> italc could possible do what you need for viewing desktops
[18:46] <bencrisford> highvoltage: is there a meeting tonight?  I just remembered what day it is
[18:50] <highvoltage> bencrisford: yep
[18:51] <highvoltage> bencrisford: and for a change I'll have some things to report again!
[18:51] <bencrisford> highvoltage: I can't wait :).  1900 UTC?
[18:53] <omar> highvolatge thanks for that suggestion .. free open source -- thanks a million
[18:54] <mhall119> dang, same time as the #ubuntu-youth meeting
[19:21] <highvoltage> mhall119: btw, have you made any progress with the gnome session for qimo?
[19:30] <mhall119> highvoltage: honestly, I haven't started anything for the next round of Qimo yet
[19:30] <mhall119> been dealing with family issues
[19:31] <highvoltage> mhall119: ok, I was thinking in terms of what we should include in the installer as options
[19:32] <mhall119> I think the gnome session is going to require some gconf changes, so I'll have to figure out how to make that play nice with the regular Gnome session
[19:33] <highvoltage> mhall119: what's the problem there? I can help if you want?
[19:34] <mhall119> I just need to make sure my gconf settings are kept separate from the other session's gconf settings
[19:35] <highvoltage> mhall119: why?
[19:35] <mhall119> so there can be separate "Qimo Session" and "Gnome Session"
[19:35] <highvoltage> ah, ok
[19:36] <mhall119> otherwise when I apply panel configs in Qimo Session, they'll be applied in Gnome Session too
[19:36] <highvoltage> yeah I didn't think of it as so much of a problem, but it would be nice being able to have the option at login time
[19:36] <mhall119> for Xfce, I had to change the value of XDG_CONFIG_HOME to be ~/.qimo instead of ~/.config
[19:37] <mhall119> that's the way it currently is, Qimo has a Qimo Session, and also an Xubuntu Session
[19:38] <mhall119> does Edubuntu have it's own Session?
[19:38] <mhall119> separate from Gnome Session?
[19:41] <Lns> mhall119: no
[19:41] <Lns> Edubuntu isn't a window manager/DE
[19:41] <mhall119> neither is Qimo
[19:41] <mhall119> or Xubuntu
[19:42] <Lns> right
[19:42] <Lns> totally different concepts
[19:42] <mhall119> but both Qimo and Xubuntu have their own Sessions
[19:42] <mhall119> separate from the Xfce Session
[19:42] <Lns> they do?? lol
[19:43] <Lns> that's....weird
[19:43] <mhall119> Session == WM/DE + Default settings
[19:43] <mhall119> Qimo Session = Xfce + Qimo settings
[19:44] <mhall119> no reason Edubuntu can't be Gnome + Edubuntu settings
[19:44] <Lns> so a session can apply specific gconf settings? What's the scope of "Default settings" ?
[19:44]  * Lns thinks an LTSP "Session" is in order to fix a LOT of problems regarding networked X
[19:44] <mhall119> in the case of Qimo, it keeps Xfce configs separate from the Xubuntu session
[19:44] <mhall119> Qimo's default settings are things like panel layout, launchers, gtk theme and wallpaper
[19:45] <Lns> wow, i had no idea sessions incorporated things like that
[19:45] <mhall119> they can
[19:45] <highvoltage> mhall119: edubuntu just changes the default gconf keys
[19:45] <mhall119> just change where it gets the default settings and where it stores them under ~
[19:46] <mhall119> highvoltage: in that case, maybe we can do both a qimo-session-gnome and edubuntu-session-gnome
[19:50] <mhall119> Lns: http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/8941/qimosession.png
[19:50] <mhall119> the same user can jump between Qimo session and Xubuntu session, without changes made to one bleeding over into the other
[19:51] <Lns> that is fantastic!
[19:51] <Lns> that would be very useful in a heterogeneous ltsp/workstation environment
[19:53] <mhall119> the thing with gconf, though, is that we really only want to keep separate gnome settings
[19:54] <mhall119> there's no reason to keep Qimo's gedit settings for a user separate from their Gnome Session gedit settings
[19:58] <highvoltage> on an installed edubuntu system, there really wouldn't be much difference between an edubuntu session and a gnome session anyway
[19:59] <highvoltage> (although that might not always be the case in the future)
[19:59] <highvoltage> Edubuntu meeting time :)
[20:00] <bencrisford> woo :)
[21:06] <mhall119> highvoltage: apt-cache show desktop-profiles
[21:32] <mhall119> highvoltage: looks like I can set an environment variable to change the placement of the user's gconf data, but it's going to be all or nothing
[21:43] <mhall119> which I guess isn't that bad
[21:44] <mhall119> I'll talk to you later about it, heading home now