CIA-33[libqapt] jmthomas * 1149663 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/ (Messages.sh utils/Messages.sh) Move Messages.sh to the utils dir, so that our po/ dir will show up there in the tarballs, and our KDE-having CMakeLists.txt there will be able to handle the KDE translation macros00:41
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: do you think you could make the release script move the po/ dir to the directory where the Messages.sh is?01:33
JontheEchidnaand also the gettext cmake stuff needs to go to the CMakeLists.txt to that directory01:34
JontheEchidnacurrently it is failing because the toplevel CMakeLists.txt doesn't have KDE macros :(01:34
* DarkwingDuck drools03:19
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apacheloggerJontheEchidna: I am not sure about moving the po dir, but we can try something rather awesome ^^08:37
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: oh look, bug 550707 now also affects debian-installer, even though he says that the debian-installer does not do this ^^08:53
ubottuLaunchpad bug 550707 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu and Kubuntu installation include download of additional language-packages after install completed" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/55070708:53
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: oh, actually me applying awesomeness would require yet another hack :S08:56
apacheloggerthere is some logical problem anyway09:04
CIA-33[libqapt] sitter * 1149759 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/ (CMakeLists.txt utils/CMakeLists.txt) Make build of utils as part of libqapt conditional to presence of KDE4 + add release script magic to enforce po dir inclusion at specific location09:06
apacheloggerworks like a charm09:08
CIA-33[ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100714081829-ymlwdu5lv1230hjw * src/libs/ (SyncDaemon.cpp SyncDaemon.h) Behold! The return of transferStarted and contentQueueChanged. Only for debugging as of now.09:18
apacheloggeryo Quintasan09:54
Quintasanapachelogger: \o09:55
apacheloggercan I has neon yet :P09:56
Quintasanworking on bumping build numbers so I can upload same revision :s09:56
CIA-33[ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100714091203-c3s8i873bifbfmmi * src/libs/ (3 files in 2 dirs) I have absolutely no idea why, but the introspection reported {Download,Upload}Started as variant, even though they are strings... it still does... VERY odd.10:12
apacheloggerQuintasan: sounds like fun10:13
QuintasanI doubt it will work10:13
* apachelogger just invented a QStringHashList ^^10:31
apacheloggerdoes not look as cool as QStringHashHash though :/10:31
CIA-33[ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100714093804-mu8ag35qd59bdxrx * src/libs/SyncDaemon.cpp also qdebug current_uploads10:38
CIA-33[ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100714093824-88078fxo7opawerr * src/libs/Types.h - Boot QStringMap* types (we are using hashes - at least for now) - Add QStringHashList : DBus type aa{ss}10:39
CIA-33[ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100714093918-7vitgbnv84mepuvh * src/libs/introspection/com.ubuntuone.SyncDaemon.xml Annotate aa{ss} as QStringHashList. I am happy to announce that except for a conflicting delete command introspection is complete now \o/10:40
CIA-33[ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100714101824-3lbuarrimrw11szk * src/libs/ (SyncDaemon.cpp SyncDaemon.h Types.h) add super cool function to help with debugging raw qdbusmessages coming from signals11:18
faboRiddell: ping11:36
Riddellhi fabo 11:38
CIA-33[ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100714104006-a309wnre1w126r9c * src/libs/ (SyncDaemon.cpp SyncDaemon.h) work on upload only for now11:40
faboRiddell: do you remember an issue with Qt WebKit no detected ?11:40
Riddellfabo: noe11:40
Riddellnot detected by what?11:40
faboRiddell: if I build mobility with latest qtwebkit, webkit isn't detected11:41
fabolike if QT_CONFIG doesn't have webkit11:42
Riddellmy qmake foo is poor, I guess it just expects qtwebkit to come from qt11:43
fabohmm I guess qtwebkit should ship something like QT_CONFIG += webkit 11:44
CIA-33[ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100714104451-9ihnshxl72o9pome * src/libs/SyncDaemon.cpp cleanup private daemon11:45
Riddellfabo: does HTML5 video and audio work for you in qtwebkit?11:45
Riddellhttp://people.canonical.com/~jriddell/html5.html doesn't render in rekonq here11:45
faboI didn't tried, i'll try as soon as I have latest package working11:46
coz_hey guys..a couple of things... how to get wallpaper to stretch or at least mirror on secondary monitor on dual monitor set up and  ..I use cairo dock at the top of the screen but icons continually move "under" the dock...any way to remedy this?11:52
Riddellcoz_: KDE user questions best on #kubuntu, gnome user questions best on #ubuntu11:53
coz_Riddell,  ok this is kde beta   but i will go there11:54
falktxhi guys12:06
falktxi noticed that in kde 4.5.0 rc2, packages from backports, only pulseaudio is available as phonon output12:06
falktxis this normal/expected?12:07
Riddellfalktx: if you have pulseaudio installed, yes12:08
falktxthen if I remove pulseaudio it will back to normal?12:09
falktxi usually use jack output12:09
Riddellhttp://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/KDE  may help12:10
Riddellphonon doesn't normally output to jack as far as I know12:10
falktxi know, but I like jack12:12
falktx"his module (called module-device-manager) can be started manually by running the script "start-pulseaudio-kde" which should be shipped with PulseAudio  since 0.9.21"12:14
falktxsuch thing is not available in lucid...12:14
Riddellthat could be an issue then12:15
Riddellyou want to run12:16
Riddell/usr/bin/pactl load-module module-device-manager "do_routing=1" > /dev/null; /usr/bin/pactl load-module module-x11-bell "display=$DISPLAY" "sample=bell.ogg" > /dev/null12:16
falktxFailure: Module initalization failed12:16
falktxi think i'll stay on kde 4.412:17
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: neat, thanks :D12:18
falktxi think pulseaudio should be backported from lucid into the kubuntu beta ppa12:18
Riddellthat's one option, the other is to remove the pulsaudio patches from lucid packages12:19
falktxthat could work too12:19
falktxi would prefer that12:20
* falktx thinks about creating another testing ppa...12:20
CIA-33[libqapt] jmthomas * 1149798 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/ (Messages.sh utils/Messages.sh) Revert 1149663, I had misinterpreted the release scripties12:20
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: you're welcome :)12:26
falktxhm, how should the pulseaudio be disable for this?12:29
falktxremoving pulseaudio from build depends?12:29
falktxbtw, ktorrent is outdated, v4.0.2 is out now12:31
apacheloggerimproved upload indication \o/12:33
Riddellfalktx: yes12:33
Riddellare file previews working for people in dolphin?12:33
falktxthey work for me12:34
falktxvideos too, with the new ffmpegthumbs lib12:34
apacheloggerI had the thumbnailer eat my system for videos btw12:34
apacheloggerwas rather nice to see that stuff other than chrome can eat all my memory12:35
RiddellI'd like to turn previews on in dolphin by default, anyone disagree?12:42
Riddellas well as turning off the search toolbar (because I turned off nepomuk strigi too)12:43
Riddelloh and turn the info side panel on too12:47
apacheloggerRiddell: yes, we had that, I turned it off13:01
apacheloggerRiddell: dolphin is not able to differ between local and remote previews13:01
apacheloggerwhich essentially means that it will preview smb and ftp and webdav etc. etc.13:02
Riddellthat's very unintelligent of it13:02
apacheloggerI agree13:03
apacheloggerkonqueror was able to do that13:03
apacheloggeroh also IIRC it did not have a threshold13:03
apacheloggerso if there was a super large tiff file on a remote slave it would download the whole file to create a preview of it13:03
Riddellapachelogger: there does seem to be a threshold now13:03
RiddellDolphin Preferences -> general -> previews13:04
Riddell"Do not create previews for local files above...MB remove files above... MB"13:04
Riddelland remote files is 0MB13:04
apacheloggeroh, cool13:05
apacheloggerI suppose we should conduct a performance check though13:05
apacheloggerbecause now that dolphin is fast I would rather not have it become slow again because of previews ^^13:05
Riddellthere doesn't seem to be any way to turn on global previews except by patching kdebase13:06
* apachelogger is wondering why they are not on by default anyway13:06
CIA-33[ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100714120836-ixulu5u3nrcytze8 * src/ (4 files in 2 dirs) The return of upload indication \o/13:08
Riddellapachelogger: I'll e-mail Peter13:16
Riddellsince I don't think there's a dolphin mailing list13:17
CIA-33[muon] jmthomas * 1149831 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/main.cpp Bump version for 0.3 (1.0 alpha2) release13:28
Riddellneversfelde: did you ever manage to look at koffice without openjpeg?13:31
debfxwhat are we going to do about the qtwebkit package names? if Debian sticks with the current naming scheme we should rename our packages now13:33
Riddelldebfx: yes we need to decide13:33
Riddellwas hoping lex would turn up since he was thinking about it too13:34
RiddellI think we should sync from debian but change the source package name13:34
Riddellsince our source package has a larger version number13:34
Riddellit probably needs some version changes in the replaces/conflicts too13:35
debfxwe also need transitional packages for -dev and -dbg13:36
debfxwhat's the advantage of renaming the source package if we need to diverge from Debian anyway?13:38
Riddelldebfx: we currently have a qtwebkit source package already and it has a larger version number13:39
Riddell4:4.7.0~beta2-0ubuntu1 compared to 2.0~week2613:40
Riddelldebfx: are you offering to prepare that? :)13:45
Riddellcontains(QT_CONFIG, phonon)13:46
Riddellfabo: hmm, I think webkit not picking up phonon is the same issue as qtmobility not picking up separate webkit13:46
debfxRiddell: yeah I can do that13:47
Riddelldebfx: lovely, thanks13:48
Riddelldebfx: in WebCore/WebCore.pro I think you should comment out the "!contains(DEFINES, ENABLE_VIDEO=.) {" block and just add in DEFINES += ENABLE_VIDEO=113:49
Riddelldebfx: for source package name, qtwebkit-source sort of follows upstream13:49
Riddellthat may be related to me having finally processed the sync requests, quite a few of them13:57
JontheEchidnathis does pose a problem, however... I really wanted to release today13:58
Riddellalthough two days is extraordinary13:59
JontheEchidnaactually, it looks like most of the queue is due to PPAs14:00
JontheEchidna1976 i386 jobs in queue for PPAs14:00
RiddellI see talk of new sbuild patches and whatnot in #soyuz14:00
Riddellpulseaudio uploaded to PPA with KDE autostart file added14:01
ScottKJontheEchidna: I think the backup in the official archive has a lot to do with 3 gcc-4.4 uploads in the last 12 hours.14:08
ScottKNCommander: I see your rebuild test for qt4-x11 succeeded on armel.  What needs to happen before that will work in the archive?14:10
ScottKapachelogger: Retrying digikam after your pkg-kde-tools fix worked.  Thanks again.14:11
JontheEchidnaStart in 12 minutes (12505) <3 P3A14:13
apacheloggerI think I know why u1-kde crashes at exit14:15
apacheloggeroh this is beautiful14:17
JontheEchidnabah, it'll misbuild in -ninjas though, due to higher-versioned kde4libs :(14:18
apacheloggerI haz found bug in the knotificationitem!14:19
apacheloggermaybe the bug is in Qt after all14:51
Riddellhmm, kaffeine seems to be a smaller .deb than dragonplayer15:04
RiddellI'm going to swap dragon for kaffeine on the seeds unless anyone objects15:06
* apachelogger objects and suggests vlc because kaffeine AND dragonplayer are complete and utter crap AND because amarok will beat us to use vlc once the backend is ready anyway15:07
jussiRiddell: big +1 from me15:07
apacheloggeralso vlc is more useful than both of them anyway15:08
Riddellapachelogger: what's crap about kaffeine AND dragonplayer?15:08
apacheloggerkaffeine got about the most horrible interface I personally can imagine, dragonplayer got about the most horrible lack of features I can imagine15:08
Riddellvlcs UI isn't all that pretty either15:09
apacheloggerso we have vlc which is well maintained used by millions, does just about anything, libvlc will be forced upon us by upstream15:09
apacheloggervs kaffeine which is not used by millions but at least maintained15:09
apacheloggervs dragonplayer which is also not used by millions and sort of maintained15:10
CIA-33[ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100714141151-7jwsxe6220rccdv7 * src/statusnotifier/Application.cpp Fix crash-on-exit \o/15:12
CIA-33[ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100714141202-a0qdms0sfbkr0a5m * src/statusnotifier/StatusNotifier.cpp formatting++15:12
Riddellvlc seems to have a load of gnome dependencies, I wonder why15:12
apacheloggerRiddell: gnome biased packagers I suppose15:13
ScottKvlc also has a security history that might give the security team pause for bringing it in Main.15:19
ScottKIt may have gotten better though.15:20
* ScottK says what the heck and retries qt4-x11 (since it worked on the archvie rebuild test)15:29
rdietershadeslayer: I recall you mentioning a ftbfs kdiff3 problem recently (yesterday?), i've got a patch fixing the usual kde45/docbook problem, if you're interested.15:31
ScottKrdieter: I'm pretty sure that's what it was and we are interested.15:34
rdietercool, http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewvc/devel/kdiff3/kdiff3-0.9.95-docbook_fixes.patch15:35
CIA-33[muon] jmthomas * 1149901 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/DetailsTabs/MainTab.cpp Wow, I have no idea how this was compiling before this...15:49
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: Adipose sighting! http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/walls-of-fat-removed-from-londons-sewers-2025528.html15:53
ulyssesLet's call the Doctor!15:54
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: your software is broken :P16:01
ScottKapachelogger: All software is broken.16:08
apacheloggerIt is the fundamental rule of software :D16:09
* apachelogger is wondering when u1-kde gets an upload and a download at the same time16:14
apacheloggerit just ignores the download ^^16:16
apacheloggerthat was Ood16:19
CIA-33[ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100714151946-uc5x6lz20hxjon0l * src/ (4 files in 2 dirs) EXTERMINATE! - erm - DOWNLOAD! ;)16:20
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: package link is the invalid in your blog post16:27
neversfeldeRiddell: yes, I will finish this tonight16:28
Riddellneversfelde: great16:28
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: ooh, thanks16:29
ulyssesIt's time to finish Muon's localization16:31
Riddellwhat is muon?16:31
JontheEchidnaRiddell: http://jontheechidna.wordpress.com/2010/07/05/introducing-qapt-and-the-muon-package-manager/16:32
JontheEchidnayou missed it while frying in the sauna at akademy16:32
apacheloggerlike we did not babble about it for months :P16:32
apacheloggerwho wants to share stuff on you bun too one with me?16:32
jjesse-droidjontheechinda you need someone to write docs for min?16:33
JontheEchidnajjesse-droid: for muon? It would be very much appreciated16:34
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: I would but statusnotifier says it can't connect to the cloud :'-(16:35
arch0njwHello, all.  I have been looking at the KDE development tutorials and the libs used in them look like they are from KDE3.  Am I imagining things?  http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials#Introduction_To_KDE_4_Programming16:35
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: the config module seems to connect fine though16:35
Riddellarch0njw: http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/First_program looks like KDE 4 to me16:35
jjesse-droidcool I will work on it16:36
arch0njwRiddell: the man himself!  :)  When I look at the source to some KDE projects I've grabbed the libs look different.  Q* instead of K*.  What level of my ignorance am I parading about?  ;)16:36
Riddellarch0njw: classes starting in Q are from Qt, the toolkit used to make KDE Platform.  classes starting in K are from KDE Platform16:37
arch0njwRiddell: ok.  Is there a best practice as to deciding which should be used versus the other?16:38
JontheEchidnaK ones integrate better with KDE, when a K alterative is available16:38
JontheEchidnaplus a lot of K ones have extended API with some nifty extra featurs16:39
JontheEchidnaFor example, KLineEdit has a clear button that you can enable16:39
arch0njwJontheEchidna: Thank you.  Okay.  Cool.  Thank you for explaining.  (KLineEdit -- sweet!)16:39
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: you only can share via the web UI16:40
apacheloggerwell, yet16:40
JontheEchidnaah, ofc16:40
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: are you maybe running lucid-proposed?16:40
apacheloggerhat one contains a new ubuntuone-client than the one in my ppa16:40
JontheEchidnaInstalled: 1.3.3-0ubuntu116:41
apacheloggermaverick :P16:41
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: with a patched syncdaemon?16:41
JontheEchidnalet me just filter by origin in muon, then downgrade ubuntuone-client :D16:41
apacheloggerI doubt downgrading to 1.2.1 from 1.3.3 is much of a supported move though :S16:42
JontheEchidnahrm, yeah. fails to install :D16:42
JontheEchidnadependency issues16:43
JontheEchidnaoh wellz16:43
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: just patch your syncd :P16:43
apacheloggeras per instructions in my initial mail16:43
apacheloggerthe patch should also apply to 1.3.316:43
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: what email should I use to share this folder with you?16:44
apacheloggerapparently it does work with any email, one just needs to be in possesion of the url16:44
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: shared16:45
apacheloggernow if only the syncd would notice :S16:46
apacheloggerapparently once you accept a share you cannot get rid of it again16:50
JontheEchidnait looks like I can unshare it16:51
apacheloggerbut I cant ^^16:51
apacheloggerhow cool is that16:51
apacheloggerbug fixed \o/16:54
* ScottK hopes people get a LOL out of his latest blog post.17:00
alScottK: your checking tool says my SPF record is valid17:04
alis that a bug in the tool?17:05
ScottKal: Probably not.17:05
ScottKUsually I get mails from people that clearly are having trouble spelling DNS.17:05
ali figured when i saw the NOTE: The domain is everything to the right of the '@' in the e-mail address.17:07
arch0njwAnother silly question.  I am setting up kdevelop (4.0) and the instructions here are definitely for kdevelop 3.x. http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Set_up_KDE_4_for_development#KDevelop.  How do I get it to reconize the K* includes?17:42
arch0njw(I have installed kde-devel)17:43
coz_hey guys  kde 4.5 RC2   how to get image previews on the desktop   Folder view?18:03
shadeslayerScottK: seems the patch is the same thing i suggested.. convert docbook to 4.2 ... ( re kdiff3 )18:03
shadeslayerill look into this,if someone hasnt already18:04
shadeslayerrdieter: you work with fedora as well? :D18:05
rdietershadeslayer: yes18:05
shadeslayerrdieter: kewl :D18:05
shadeslayerrdieter: thanks for the patch.. testing it out :)18:06
shadeslayerrdieter: is line 11 of that patch correct?18:08
shadeslayerseems like it doesnt really do anything18:09
* shadeslayer has 4 pages of unread mail... thanks to apachelogger18:10
rdieteryeah, the en docbook didn't require patching, that can be left out18:10
shadeslayerbrrrr... i keep writing nano as babo :P18:11
* shadeslayer needs a crash course in vim tho18:13
shadeslayermy kde svn request was denied :'(18:16
shadeslayerScottK: rejoice! kdiff3 builds with patch18:23
shadeslayerrdieter: poke18:34
rdietershadeslayer: yes?18:34
shadeslayerrdieter: how can i search fedora for more patches?18:34
shadeslayerlike the kdiff one....18:34
rdietershadeslayer: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Using_Fedora_CVS18:34
shadeslayerthanks :D18:34
rdieteryou can either get a seed, an anonymous checkout, or web18:35
* shadeslayer doesnt see web18:35
shadeslayeroh wait18:35
shadeslayerfound it.. 18:35
shadeslayerthat should totaly be under a heading...18:35
shadeslayerrdieter: fedora doesnt have a folder for kdesudo it seems :D18:45
* shadeslayer cant steal from fedora now :P18:45
apacheloggerisnt there a tool that does that?18:46
apacheloggerhttp://daniel.holba.ch/harvest/ b0rked18:47
rdietershadeslayer: never bothered I guess, kdesu has been largely sufficient so far (and is getting deprecated more over time by polkit-izing everything)18:47
apacheloggerthe name is seriously spooky though18:47
shadeslayerapachelogger: theres a tool to steal from fedora? :D18:48
apacheloggerbut the name!18:48
apacheloggerentirely reminds me on the torchwood episode "the harvest"18:48
apacheloggerand that was one scary episode IMHO18:49
rdieterapachelogger: lol (I miss that show)18:49
apacheloggerrdieter: last I heared a 5th series was confirmed18:51
rdieterapachelogger: rly? woo!18:51
apacheloggerkubotu: wp torchwood18:51
kubotuResults for torchwood: 1. Torchwood - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torchwood | 2. List of Torchwood episodes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Torchwood_episodes | 3. Torchwood Institute - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torchwood_Institute18:51
kubotu[1] From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia18:51
apacheloggerOn 7 June 2010, it was confirmed that Torchwood will be returning as a co-production between BBC Cymru Wales, BBC Worldwide and US premium entertainment network Starz for a fourth series consisting of 10 episodes. John Barrowman and Eve Myles will be returning to the series which will feature locations from around the world.18:52
apacheloggerdbusmenu does eat my widgets, doesnt it?18:59
NCommanderScottK: I need to ping some people :-)19:12
ScottKNCommander: I got impatient and mashed the retry button anyway (since the build from doko's armel rebuild test succeeded).  We'll know in ~10 hours or so how it went.19:16
NCommanderScottK: that's bound to FTBFS again, as the toolchain hasn't been uploaded19:17
=== mgraesslin_ is now known as mgraesslin
ScottKNCommander: Was doko's rebuild test with the updated toolchain?19:17
NCommanderScottK: yeah19:17
ScottKIt would have been nice if that was mentioned on the page about the rebuild.19:17
NCommanderScottK: it was a custom linaro toolchain that they asked me to try building qt4-x1119:17
NCommanderScottK: wait, waht rebuild?19:17
* NCommander might be having a thought shew19:18
ScottKNCommander: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/test-rebuild-2010070719:19
NCommanderScottK: *shrug*, thats possibly with an older toolchain vs. newer one.19:19
shadeslayerQuintasan: poke19:37
shadeslayerdaily builds going on in classroom19:37
shadeslayerQuintasan: omg... lp recipies are eazy :D19:41
Quintasanshadeslayer: well, it's not like they covered anything new19:41
shadeslayerQuintasan: im a n00b at lp recipies19:42
QuintasanI'm busy with my second computer so I'll review the logs later19:42
shadeslayerScottK: around?19:59
ScottKshadeslayer: Barely.19:59
shadeslayerScottK: ok.. seems kdesudo is ftbfs with 19:59
shadeslayerthat patch ^^20:00
ScottKshadeslayer: You may have to actually update the docbook to match the new schema.20:00
shadeslayerScottK: with no EBN... thats going to be a PITA20:01
ScottKGood luck.20:02
shadeslayeryeah... :S20:02
shadeslayerbtw anyone know if which package has krazy?20:13
shadeslayer( the doc checking tool)20:14
shadeslayerScottK: dont upload kdiff3 .. for now...20:23
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: ^^20:23
shadeslayersorry for the highlight20:23
JontheEchidnashadeslayer: something wrong with it?20:24
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: no.. pinotree is trying to explain why the patch is bad in #kde-devel20:24
shadeslayerapparently the docs are outdated :S20:24
shadeslayerso im going to request the maintainer to release a version with new docs20:24
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: btw any idea on how to install krazy from packages?20:25
JontheEchidnawe don't have krazy packaged20:25
JontheEchidnagotta get it from svn20:25
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: shouldnt it be packaged?20:25
shadeslayeror does it not have a release 20:25
JontheEchidnait just hasn't been packaged (it also doesn't have a release, it's pretty much a rolling release type thing)20:26
JontheEchidnait's just that nobody's ever packaged it20:26
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: cant seem to get the deps right,it wants libxml 20:38
shadeslayerwhich package for that?20:38
shadeslayerinstalled libxml-perl and libxml++2.6-2 to no avail20:38
JontheEchidnamind blowing, I know20:38
* shadeslayer will probably faint....20:39
JontheEchidnadantti: oh, you're on. :D20:44
JontheEchidnayou have mail :)20:44
danttihehe :P20:44
danttiJontheEchidna: oh, you are my hero :P20:44
danttiI very witouthout time and the time that I got yestarday I started a kopete fork... stupid me20:45
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: now how do i get to use tab complete with installed krazy stuff? :P20:46
danttiat least now I have a "closed project"20:46
JontheEchidnashadeslayer: iDunno20:46
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: ill have to add PATH= where?20:46
JontheEchidnaoh, right20:46
* shadeslayer doesnt know where20:46
JontheEchidnaexport PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/Krazy2/bin20:46
JontheEchidnain ~/.bashrc20:46
danttiJontheEchidna: how do you think we "release" that lib? so that kubuntu and debian can package?20:47
* shadeslayer hugs JontheEchidna20:47
JontheEchidnadantti: probably push it to kdereview, ask for API review on kubuntu-devel ml and debian's pkg-kde mailing list20:47
JontheEchidnastring freeze, give kde-l10n a month's notice before release20:48
JontheEchidnathen release a stable release20:48
JontheEchidnaI suppose20:48
danttiright, kpackagekit is released in kde-apps :P but I don't think it's a good idea for debconf :P20:49
JontheEchidnaoh, a place to put the release.20:49
danttiJontheEchidna: for that I think kde's ftp dunno20:50
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: heh.. it checks everything but not docs :S20:50
JontheEchidnaI opened up a launchpad project to host libqapt: https://launchpad.net/qapt20:50
JontheEchidnaI didn't enable bug tracking or code hosting. I just throw the tarballs up there20:50
danttiJontheEchidna: lauchpad uses git? or only bzr?20:51
danttihmm right20:51
JontheEchidnait uses bzr exclusively, and offers import of all the major VCS's20:51
danttithanks, i guess I'll use gitorious for this kopete for then :P20:52
CIA-33[libqapt] jmthomas * 1150003 * trunk/playground/libs/libqapt/src/package.h SVN_SILENT: nevermind21:02
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: ok quick question,where is muon kode?21:03
shadeslayerkde svn?21:04
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: next question,i want to start working on muon,what should i know :D21:04
JontheEchidnahow libqapt works I guess21:04
shadeslayerand how does it work :P21:04
shadeslayer( again where is the kode ;) )21:05
JontheEchidnawell, you don't exactly need to know *how* it works, but how to use it21:05
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: basically it provides functions to muon?21:05
shadeslayerfor installing stuff21:05
shadeslayerand all the other features we use :D21:06
JontheEchidnaIt has functions for marking things for install, installing them, and getting info about packages and the general state of the package system21:06
JontheEchidnatomorrow is feature/string freeze, btw21:07
JontheEchidnawith a 1.0 release a month from tomorrow21:07
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: no problem.. im just studying kode for now,and looking at learning something rather than forwarding patches :P21:07
shadeslayerand fixing bugs if ican21:08
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: also.. which files do i need to look at to get started?21:08
JontheEchidnalibdebconf-kde-dev from my ppa, then whatever cmake sez21:08
JontheEchidnawhich I believe is xapian, polkit-qt-1, and kdelibs5-dev21:09
shadeslayerin terms of the files you put in muon i mean.. not the libraries :D21:09
shadeslayerlike which file is launched first? ( main.cpp? ) and after that which file?21:09
* shadeslayer is currently looking at MainWindow.cpp21:10
JontheEchidnayeah, main starts the event loop and such and creates the main window object21:14
JontheEchidnamainwindow loads all the various widgets21:15
JontheEchidnaand initializes all the backend bits and connects them all up21:15
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: ok,and what feature is muon missing? :D21:16
ulyssesit's not telepathic21:16
shadeslayerulysses: hehe21:17
JontheEchidnawhat feature do you think it is missing? that might be the best way to go about it21:19
shadeslayerwell... idk to be honest.. looks pretty good to me.. but the empty space when it installs stuff... that bothers me :D21:19
JontheEchidnaI honestly don't know what could be put there to make it more exciting :P21:20
shadeslayermaybe we can create a new window after it downloads the stuff... and installs21:20
shadeslayerand.. add a option to see detailed konsole output21:20
JontheEchidnakonsole output is going to be some pretty deep black magic21:21
JontheEchidnanot sure if I can implement that, even21:21
JontheEchidnanot trivial at all21:22
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: and you mentioned a seprate updater app21:23
shadeslayermaybe i can help there...21:23
JontheEchidnayes, I want to do some refactoring to the main window class so that the updater and main window can share some code21:23
JontheEchidnabasically make a subclassable MuonMainWindow class of sorts, that does all the connection to the QApt backend21:23
* shadeslayer would have to look at main window class then21:23
shadeslayerhmm.. then we can subclass two classes,one for updater app and one for the whole of muon21:24
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: you will have to explain some kode to me btw :D21:25
JontheEchidnaI'll try my besgt21:26
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: thanks.. 21:27
shadeslayermail to kdiff3 ML sent as well21:27
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: btw that bzr branch will make kdiff3 build,but is not the proper way to fix the package21:27
shadeslayer( what i interpret from pinotree's statement )21:27
shadeslayerso i sent a mail to kdiff3 to fix their docbooks ...21:28
JontheEchidnaif the kdiff3 team doesn't make a new release before we release, we will either have to upload that fix our patch out the docs entirely21:28
shadeslayerlets see21:28

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