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wrinkliezis there a way to tell how many times a file has been downloaded? or how many hits a ppa gets?01:38
wgrantwrinkliez: You can see a download count for files you've added to a project.01:39
wgrantAnd I've implemented PPA download stats, but I'm not sure if the script is running yet.01:40
wrinkliezwgrant: i seee...01:40
wgrantspm: Do you know if any progress has been made on that front?01:41
spmnot offhand, no01:41
wrinkliezi think im having trouble finding this download count01:44
wrinkliez:S01:44
wgrantwrinkliez: https://launchpad.net/PROJECT/+download01:44
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wrinkliezdo you have to create that page or something? i got a page not found01:52
wgrantwrinkliez: Which project?01:53
wrinklieznot a project, i dont think, but https://launchpad.net/~wrinkliez/+archive/ppasearch01:54
wrinkliezjust a script01:54
wgrantwrinkliez: That's a PPA. As I said, it's implemented, but not in operation yet.01:55
wrinkliezoh thats true you said that lol01:55
wrinkliezcool01:55
wrinkliezclearly im a nub at this whole schpeal ^.^01:56
wgrantlamont: Around?01:57
MTecknologyThis life long wait to build a package is getting really irritating05:43
MTecknologywhat's going on that it's so plugged up - and why is there never any change in priority?05:43
MTecknologyI wish somebody could answer that. :(05:45
wgrantMTecknology: Why would there be a change in priority?05:51
wgrantWhat good would that do?05:51
MTecknologywgrant: the last I knew (unless it changed) the longer it sits, the higher the priority gets, the more likely it is to get built next - certain pockets and things got higher priorities, so they were more likely to be built first but if a package sat too long it would gain more priority over the other packagebuilds.05:53
MTecknologythe other builds*05:53
spmover newer ones, yes. not over ones that are of a similar age.05:54
wgrantMTecknology: The time-based increments have been turned off, since they didn't affect anything.05:54
wgrantBecause all packages had them applied.05:54
MTecknologyoh05:54
wgrantSo it didn't make any different.05:54
wgrant*difference05:54
MTecknologymakes sense05:54
MTecknologywhat about the massive congestion?05:54
wgrantI think we may have a Python stack rebuild in progress.05:55
wgrantWe should deprioritise that.05:55
MTecknologyWhen I left work 6 hours ago this package was estimated to be built in 3 hours, it's still estimated for 3 hours - it's been sitting there about 15 horus now.05:56
wgrantYes, build farm master overhead is probably well over 100% at the moment.05:56
wgrantSo the estimates will be too low.05:57
MTecknologySo ... super-duper-command stop python-stack --purpose=yay05:58
MTecknology:D05:58
wgrantPretty much.05:58
MTecknologyamd64 queue is 22 hours - that was 32 hours earlier05:59
wgrantRight. Lots of the python stuff is arch-all, so only builds on i386.05:59
MTecknologyhm?05:59
wgrantThe amd64 queue is shrinking.06:00
MTecknologymy i386 build was done about 4 hours ago06:00
wgrantRight.06:00
wgrantTHe amd64 queue is currently long because of some bad situations of the last couple of days.06:00
wgrantThe i386 one is long mostly because of the Python rebuild.06:00
MTecknologyoh06:00
MTecknologywhat kidna bad situations?06:00
wgrant1) Bad split of builders between i386 and amd64.06:01
wgrant2) Most of the buildds were gone for several hours last night.06:01
MTecknologywhat abotu before that - it was congested even before that, wasn't it?06:01
wgrantMostly because of the bad split.06:02
MTecknologyso that split happened twice?06:03
wgrantAt the moment there are 22 i386 builders, but onlyl 13 amd64.06:03
MTecknologyooh.. there should be about 22 amd64 builders then?06:04
MTecknology+/-06:04
wgrantNo.06:04
wgrantI'd probably give it 17ish.06:05
wgrantBut the queues are so bad at the moment that that wouldn't help too much.06:05
MTecknology4 makes that big of a difference?06:05
MTecknologyoh06:05
wgrantOver time it does, yes.06:05
wgrantthat's an extra 30%.06:05
MTecknologySo once the congestion dies down (since it's catching up) and a few more builders come back - things should be smooth yet again?06:06
wgrantProbably.06:07
MTecknologyI think you guys should buy about 200 more powerful servers for building :D - then no queu time. :P06:07
MTecknologywgrant: thanks very dearly for that information - it's very nive to know06:08
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BlindFreakazoidhi09:01
BlindFreakazoidMy lp account has been suspended and I have no clue why or how I can activate it again :(09:02
spmBlindFreakazoid: what's the account name? the ~<userid> bit09:06
BlindFreakazoidkonradgraefe09:06
spmBlindFreakazoid: apparently there were reports of your account being used to send spam09:08
BlindFreakazoidouch09:08
spmI can re-enable, but pls be careful :-)09:09
BlindFreakazoidthank you09:09
BlindFreakazoid:)09:09
wrinkliezhey guys.  im packing my application now, and im on the changelog.  im at the part where I'm supposed to put a distribution, but what if it doesnt matter which distribution?09:27
wrinkliezdo i put all? any? do i not put anything?09:27
wgrantwrinkliez: Put the distribution series (eg. 'lucid') that you want the package to build for.09:37
wrinkliezwgrant: what if it will work on every distribution? its juts a script...09:41
sluimersHi there!09:57
sluimersI have a question about launchpad's PPA, what do I need to change in order for my packages to be compiled in both i386 and amd64.10:03
sluimers.=?10:03
sluimersAlso, why is it taking such a long time these days?10:03
sluimersIt used to take minutes.10:04
mwhudsonsluimers: some of the machines that usually serve as builders have been borrowed for other purposes10:04
sluimersahhh...10:04
mwhudsonwell10:04
mwhudsonto be more fair, some of the machines that are usually on loan as builders have been taken back :-)10:05
wgrantThey're back now, but the queue is immense.10:05
mwhudsonah10:05
wgrantAnd the Python stack rebuild isn't helping (roughly 2.5k builds)10:05
sluimersAnd the i386 thing? It used to be that my packages were being compiled in lpr, amd64 and i38610:05
sluimerswhich I didn't understand in the first place.10:06
sluimersIs that because of the borrowing as well?10:07
wgrant'Architecture: all' packages are built on only i386, because you've stated that the binaries from one architecture will work on the rest too.10:07
wgrantYou probably want 'Architecture: any' instead, which will build separately on each.10:07
sluimersAre there any other architectures launchpad builds on?10:08
sluimersOr is it just those three.10:08
sluimers?10:08
mwhudsonppas just build on x86 and amd6410:08
wgrantJust those three.10:08
mwhudsonand lpia for old releases?10:08
wgrantAlthough lpia is gone from Ubuntu 10.04 LTS.10:08
mwhudsonbuilds for the ubuntu archive can build on more archs10:08
senseI'm chaning my nickname from 'qense' to 'sense' and I would like to do the same on Launchpad. However, the nickname 'sense' there is already registered by someone who created his account on 2006-02-20 but never did anything with it. Is it possible to request that nickname?10:50
sluimersIs it possible to upload one package for multiple series?10:53
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jayveeIs PPA uploading broken for anybody else?11:04
bigjoolswhat is your problem with it?11:04
jayveeI’ve attempted to upload to my PPA several times today (dput ppa:jeremy-visser/python-iview) and got no response from Launchpad. Not even an ‘accepted’ or ‘rejected’ e-mail.11:05
jayveeNot gone in to spam either.11:06
bigjoolsok, are you signing the upload with a key registered to your account in LP?11:06
jayveeYep.11:06
bigjoolsok let me check the logs11:06
jayveeCF13C41A11:06
jayveeI also accidentally uploaded to the Ubuntu archive the first time, and normally if I accidentally do that I get a big “REJECTED” e-mail, but didn’t get a response from that either.11:07
jayveeI hope your server didn’t ban me because of that. ;)11:07
bigjoolsok I see the upload processor blowing up with your upload, which means 2 things, 1) your package has a problem, 2) we have a bug  :)11:07
bigjoolslet me check the details11:07
jayveeheh11:08
jayveeWell it’s building fine in pbuilder for me.11:08
jayveeBut I guess that’s not relevant.11:08
bigjoolshmmm it says verification of your key failed11:09
bigjoolsis it on the keyserver?11:09
jayveeso why didn’t it e-mail me and tell me that?11:09
bigjoolsbecause there's a bug11:09
jayveeyeah it’s been on the keyserver for years11:09
jayveemany signatures11:09
bigjoolsok - keyserver might  be flaky again :(11:09
jayveewhich keyserver are you referring to?11:10
jayveeI think it’s on all of them anyway. :)11:10
bigjoolskeyserver.ubuntu.com11:10
jayveewell I just synced my key again then11:10
jayveedunno if it’ll make any difference11:10
jayveeso should I try uploading again?11:11
wgrantIs it actually a key not found error, or something more sinister?11:11
bigjoolsI'm trying to trace that11:11
bigjoolsthe error from GPG is "No public key"11:11
jayveeyeah my key is actually `;rm -rf /#CF13C41A11:11
jayveeuploading a new one now11:14
jayveeuploaded.11:14
wgrantThe key looks fine, and other uploads are being accepted fine...11:15
jayveeif the error was that the key was missing, this should have rejiggled it11:15
jayveei.e. me syncing the key11:15
bigjoolswgrant: getVerifiedSignature() is failing11:16
jayveewonder if going to ~jeremy-visser/+editpgpkeys and reimporting the key would help11:17
wgrantIt wouldn't.11:17
wgrantThe fingerprint associated with your account is correct.11:18
wgrantAnd the key is on keyserver.u.c, and isn't expired there.11:18
bigjoolsgpgme is failing it, I've no idea why11:18
jayveeha, Karl Goetz has signed my key11:18
jayveeI don't remember meeting him at the keysigning11:19
jayveealthough i've met him other times11:19
bigjoolswith that error "No public key"11:19
wgrantbigjools: Does it give a fingerprint or key ID in the message?11:19
bigjoolsnope, that is all11:19
wgrantIt's /possible/ it's complaining about the dsc instead.11:19
bigjoolsno, it's the changes11:19
wgrantDamn.11:20
bigjools"GPG verification of python-iview_0.2-1~bzr57~ppa1~karmic_source.changes failed"11:20
wgrantAnd it really is CF13C41A?11:20
bigjoolsjayvee: we don't generally email about gpg failures otherwise it's a spam vector11:20
wgrantIf it is, all I can suspect is the internal keyserver being flaky...11:20
bigjoolsI suspect that also11:20
jayvee$ debsign -kCF13C41A python-iview_0.2-1~bzr59~ppa1_source.changes11:21
jayveetrying a second upload after running that command11:21
wgrant:(11:21
jayveejust in case it's picking the wrong key11:22
jayveelike my expired apt repo key11:22
jayveebut the terminal output looks okay11:22
jayveeactually, hang on11:22
jayveegpg: Signature made Wed 14 Jul 2010 20:20:59 EST using RSA key ID 480A727211:22
jayveewhat the hell is 480A727211:22
wgrantAha.11:22
wgrantThat would do it.11:22
bigjools:)11:22
wgrantThe Internet has never heard of it.11:23
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StevenKI tend to use -k with the e-mail, not the key ID11:23
jayveehttp://pastebin.com/0YsbdPyh11:23
bigjoolsso when you answered "yeah it’s been on the keyserver for years" you didn't actually check11:23
jayveeI did check11:23
jayveehttp://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=0xBECE90AACF13C41A11:24
bigjoolsbut not the key that you were signing with, I mean11:24
jayveebut funny thing is, that's resulting after I ran debsign -kCF13C41A11:24
jayveehang a sec11:24
jayvee480A7272 is a subkey of CF13C41A11:24
wgrantOh.11:24
wgrantYes.11:24
wgrantDamn.11:24
wgrantHm.11:25
wgrantThat subkey is brand new.11:25
jayveeah wow, I forgot I created that11:25
wgrantIt's on the keyserver, though.11:25
jayveeso looks like it's been signing everything with that subkey11:25
wgrantI can --recv-keys it fine.11:25
jayveebut given that it's a subkey, shouldn't it be trusted anyway11:25
wgrantBut I wonder if LP is getting confused.11:25
jayveeyeah possibly a grep like error11:26
wgrantIt's meant to work with subkeys.11:26
wgrantThere's code to do it.11:26
jayveegrep 'RSA key ID $KEY_ID' `gpg-verify-stuff`11:26
jayveeand I'm not sure I can force it not to sign with the subkey11:27
jayveeso now I remember why I created that subkey. it's cause I read that 1024-bit keys are getting quite weak.11:28
jayveeso adding a 4096-bit subkey should make it stronger, no?11:28
wgrantbigjools: Where in getVerifiedSignature is throwing the exception?11:29
bigjoolsimpossible to tell11:29
maxbjayvee: uh..... strong subkey, weak root key, are you not seeing a flaw here?11:29
wgrantbigjools: Ah, that kind of exception handling... excellent.11:30
jayveemaxb: don't know enough about crypto to tell, sorry11:30
bigjoolswgrant: GPGVerificationError is thrown in a few places, it's one of the first 211:31
bigjoolsgiven that the other places hard-code a different error11:31
wgrantAh, true.11:31
StevenKjayvee: If you're worried that 1024 isn't strong enough, create a new key11:34
jayveethanks for the advice — I’ll consider doing that.11:34
jayveeI’m not worried. Just thought it might be a good idea. :)11:34
jayveeSo do any of you know gpg or debsign well enough to recommend me a workaround?11:38
wgrantI'm not entirely sure of how having multiple signing keys works.11:39
jayveeThe ABC have changed their server backend thus breaking Python-iView, so I need to get this update out to quell the e-mail flood I’m getting. :)11:39
wgrantAhhh, I thought I knew your name from somewhere.11:39
jayveewgrant: you’re an Aussie too?11:40
wgrantYep, Melbourne.11:40
StevenKIE, "Mostly, but only until we can kick Victoria out."11:40
wgrantHeh.11:40
spivHuh, a 504 Gateway timeout view a merge proposal.11:51
spivs/view/when I tried to view/11:51
jayveehey, one of my packages went through 28 minutes ago11:55
jayveedid somebody manually approve it?11:55
StevenKWe can't do that for PPAs11:56
jayveepuzzling11:56
jayveewell to work around this issue, I expired the 4096-bit key, so now gpg defaults to the primary key again12:04
jayveeI guess if I want to do it right, I should make a new 4096-bit key.12:04
jayveeor, rather, create a new 8192-bit primary key, then have a 4096-bit subkey.12:05
jayveeand then save the 8192-bit key offline on a flash drive buried somewhere where I won't be able to find it by the time I expire the subkey. :)12:05
wgrantHeh.12:05
jayveeduring which time there will have been an EMP shockwave from North Korea and it will have been wiped anyway12:06
jayveeor that solar storm like during the 1800s12:06
wgrantDoes EMP kill flash?12:06
jayveehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_storm_of_185912:07
jayveewe're due for another one in 201212:07
jayveehttp://socioecohistory.wordpress.com/2009/05/09/nasa-warns-of-super-solar-storm-2012/12:07
wgrantHmm, inconvenient.12:07
jayveeas for me, I'm looking forward to being able to see an aurora from where I live12:08
jayveeshould buy a decent camera before then.12:08
jayveeha, did canonical just die12:10
wgrantThe LP spring has vanished for lunch.12:10
wgrantEr.12:10
wgrantsprint.12:10
jayvee"193.85.232.176 - 193.85.232.183" registered to Gestin Holding a.s. in the Czech Republic12:10
wgrantYep. They're in Prague for the week.12:12
jayveecoincidence? I think not. :)12:12
jayveehey here's a suggestion: maybe you should enable your amd64 or lpia builders to build 'any' arch packages12:12
jayveebecause your i386 builders are way slower than your amd64 ones12:13
wgrantjayvee: The i386 queue is long because there's a rebuild of the Python stack going on.12:16
wgrantThat's 1700 i386 builds, but only a few hundred amd64 builds.12:16
wgrantHowever, I did write a branch yesterday which lets i386, amd64 and lpia builders build packages from any of those architectures.12:17
wgrantWhich would solve that problem.12:17
jayveeouch12:18
sluimersIs it possible to upload one package for multiple series?12:30
sluimersFor PPA12:30
maxbno12:32
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Pegasus_RPGAMD64hello there. One of our branches is stuck saying "Updating" for days now. https://code.launchpad.net/~mixxxdevelopers/mixxx/features_HSS139413:14
Pegasus_RPGAMD64What can I do to give it a kick?13:14
Pegasus_RPGAMD64I think the order of events was 1) I committed, 2) said updating, 3) clicked upgrade branch before Updating went away, 4) the branch format didn't change, but now it's stuck13:15
mb999Anybody heard of a bug in ubuntu one where it thinks that your paid account is a free one?13:23
nigelb#ubuntuone13:24
nigelberr, sorry13:24
nigelbtry asking in #ubuntuone13:24
mb999ta. will do13:24
Pegasus_RPGAMD64bzr operations work fine13:30
Pegasus_RPGAMD64on this stuck branch13:30
maxbPegasus_RPGAMD64: Hi, best thing to do is to file a question at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad-code/+addquestion13:35
Pegasus_RPGAMD64ok then, thank you13:35
maxbUnfortunately response time may not be great, because the relevant people are all in Prague having an annual week-long meeting13:36
Pegasus_RPGAMD64oh fun13:38
Pegasus_RPGAMD64well at least I can commit and stuff13:38
Pegasus_RPGAMD64thanks for your time13:38
nigelbmaxb: you're not there?13:41
maxbheh, no, I'm not a Canonical employee, I just loiter here a lot13:42
Pegasus_RPGAMD64ah, whew, commiting a change broke it free13:48
lamontwgrant: around now... still here?13:56
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MTecknologywgrant: amd64 queue is 3 days now..14:29
MTecknologyHow do I push a build to a private ppa?14:31
bigjoolsyou mean upload a source?14:32
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MTecknologybigjools: ya14:33
bigjoolssame as a normal PPA14:34
MTecknologybigjools: yay, it took a while to respond so I thought I screwed up - thanks14:34
MTecknologybigjools: the priority is a lot higher now - is that because it's a private ppa or because of paying for the project?14:38
maxbprivate ppas get a hefty score bonus14:41
MTecknologymaxb: oh, spiffy14:41
bigjoolsthey do indeed14:43
MTecknologyYou won't hear me arguing :P14:44
zulhi how do I unsuspend a code import15:07
maxbhmm, he didn't stick around for long15:13
pmjdebruijnmy AMD64 builds constanly being pushed back15:56
pmjdebruijnis the build farm overloaded again?15:56
StevenKThere are currently 4 amd64 buildds, so the others must have been taken out15:57
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pmjdebruijnStevenK: "taken out"?17:00
pmjdebruijnhttps://launchpad.net/~pmjdebruijn/+archive/ppa/+build/186741817:00
pmjdebruijnit seems to build in just a few minutes :)17:00
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czajkowskiAloha, just wondering if someone could help with https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/11773817:42
czajkowskiPLease17:42
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hexmodechecking18:06
czajkowskihexmode: thanks18:09
czajkowskihexmode: it's been assigned to launchpad itself by someone18:09
hexmodeczajkowski: sorry, couldn't help.  for some reason, I thought this was -ngo18:13
czajkowskihexmode: no problem it's a LoCo issue18:13
czajkowskithanks though18:14
BlindFreakazoidspm: the account is still not working :( It now says "Sorry, something just went wrong in Launchpad. We’ve recorded what happened, and we’ll fix it as soon as possible. Apologies for the inconvenience. (Error ID: OOPS-1656K1205)" so I thought I have to wait a few minutes after the reactivation18:25
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loolHey; trying to understand why gdb fails to import (since June) in ~vcs-imports: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/51937356/vcs-imports-gdb-trunk.log is the latest attempt from today19:21
loolThese look like a patched cvs sending progress messages as to be able to limit the amount of data downloaded:19:21
lool2010-07-14 18:16:12 WARNING checking out: 37252 kB19:21
lool2010-07-14 18:16:26 WARNING checking out: 46784 kB19:21
loolthese I don't get locally:19:22
loolcvs checkout: CVS password file /home/importd/.cvspass does not exist - creating a new file19:22
loolcvs checkout: existing repository /cvs/src/src/gdb does not match /cvs/src/src/texinfo19:22
loolcvs checkout: ignoring module src/texinfo19:22
loolhmm actually I do19:22
loolat the very end19:22
looland locally cvs exits with error code 1 as well19:22
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loolI've poked a gdb committed to ask about the server side setup19:28
exarkunI tried to file a bug, OOPS-1656B142921:25
ubot5https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1656B142921:25
czajkowskisinzui: thanks21:51
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