| * jjohansen heads out for a bit, back on in 20 | 00:17 | |
| bjf | pgraner, http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~bradf/table.html | 00:31 |
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| bjf | pgraner, that is with a better dataset, just lucid bugs | 00:32 |
| bjf | pgraner, still very simple algo. none of the code you sent to me | 00:32 |
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| ogasawara | kees: have you boot tested that last yama patch you added? "UBUNTU: SAUCE: Yama: verify inode is symlink to avoid bind mounts" | 02:43 |
| ogasawara | kees: I'm getting an oops/panic on two test systems I've tried (one's i386 the other amd64) | 02:44 |
| ogasawara | kees: if I back out just that last patch, the systems boot fine | 02:45 |
| ogasawara | kees: I posted some test kernels on tangerine in my home directory under yama/ | 02:45 |
| ogasawara | kees: the "good" debs are of the latest ubuntu-maverick tip http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-maverick.git;a=summary which contains just the first 2 yama patches you originally submitted | 02:46 |
| ogasawara | kees: the "bad" debs are the latest ubuntu-maverick tip plus that last yama patch you added | 02:47 |
| ogasawara | kees: for now I'm only going to apply the first 2 patches and do an upload upload since I rebased to 2.6.35-rc5 and want to get it uploaded for testing asap | 02:50 |
| Dawgmatix | how do i add directories to the module search path ? | 03:05 |
| jk- | Dawgmatix: i don't think you can | 03:11 |
| Dawgmatix | ok | 03:11 |
| jk- | oh, you can add -d to the modprobe command line | 03:12 |
| jk- | but I don't think you can specify it for other invocations of modprobe | 03:12 |
| Dawgmatix | hmm looks like you can change modules.conf to add paths too | 03:13 |
| jk- | I don't see a configuration parameter to do that | 03:13 |
| Dawgmatix | I was going by http://pwet.fr/man/linux/formats/modules_conf | 03:14 |
| Dawgmatix | that has a path parameter that you can set | 03:14 |
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| jjohansen-afk | back on later | 03:14 |
| jk- | Dawgmatix: my modprobe isn't trying to read any /etc/modules.conf file though | 03:16 |
| jk- | (sudo strace -e trace=open,stat modprobe pretend-module-name) | 03:16 |
| Dawgmatix | yeah i just realised ubuntu doesnt come with a modules.conf | 03:16 |
| kraut | moin | 06:22 |
| kees | ogasawara: I did; I functionally tested it, in fact. You can see my tree on tangerine. :( | 07:10 |
| kees | ogasawara: ah, no, I totally lied. | 07:11 |
| kees | ogasawara: one sec, I will fix. | 07:11 |
| kees | ogasawara: I had a slightly different version. :( | 07:12 |
| ogasawara | kees: no worries, just push the fixed version to your tree and I'll pull it | 07:13 |
| ogasawara | kees: it'll make the next upload | 07:13 |
| kees | it's really loopy having my pristine yama source, the security-next tree and the maverick tree. :P | 07:13 |
| ogasawara | kees: just for good measure, go ahead and send the pull request to the mailing list | 07:14 |
| kees | ogasawara: okay. is the tree with the other two pushed already? I can rebase my maverick tree if so. | 07:15 |
| ogasawara | kees: I've already applied and uploaded the other two | 07:15 |
| kees | okay, I'll rebase | 07:15 |
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| lag | apw, smb: http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B003HIWHN0 | 09:23 |
| hrw | lag: class2? | 09:48 |
| * lag shrugs | 09:51 | |
| lag | I thought SDHC was class 4? | 09:52 |
| smb | There are class 6 of those as well, though that kind of triples the price | 09:58 |
| hrw | lag: class2/4/6/10 maybe class8 too | 10:10 |
| lag | @ 32GB? | 10:11 |
| lag | The HTC Desire's specification says: "microSD™ memory card (SD 2.0 compatible)" | 10:16 |
| lag | Does that mean classes >2 won't work? | 10:16 |
| hrw | lag: I did not know that 32GB microsd exists | 10:16 |
| apw | lag, don't think so, think thats specification 2.0 | 10:16 |
| lag | That's what I was bringing to apw and smb's attention | 10:16 |
| hrw | lag: that mean that it support microsd | 10:16 |
| lag | How does that differ to class 2? | 10:17 |
| hrw | class 2/4/6/8/10 is just speed | 10:17 |
| apw | classes are simply speed specifications | 10:17 |
| apw | presumably minimum speeds in some sense | 10:17 |
| hrw | sd 2.0 is specification of SD standard version 2.0 | 10:17 |
| lag | k | 10:17 |
| hrw | so things like "suport for 1/4/8 bits, sdio support things" | 10:18 |
| hrw | 1 | 10:29 |
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| ripps | What would be the best way to get a patch into the kernel? I basically just need to drag'n'drop the wacom module source files into the kernel. | 10:35 |
| ripps | The kernel wacom source is out of date and doesn't support the wacom bamboo pen & touch series. | 10:36 |
| ripps | I've figured out the the source files in drivers/input/tablet/wacom* are the same as those in the linuxwacom package, so a simple drag and drop of the files should work. Can someone give me some advice on this. | 10:39 |
| smb | ripps, Upgrading a whole driver is usually rather frowned upon for released kernels, at least if that brings a log of changes. And the other question would be whether it needs some userspace update as well? | 10:40 |
| smb | One thing might be to have the updated driver included in linux-backports-modules | 10:41 |
| ripps | smb: I've already confirmed that the only the kernel module needs update. I've currently been pointing people to use a wacom-dkms package in one of my ppas | 10:41 |
| smb | s/a log/a lot/ | 10:41 |
| ripps | yeah, linux-backports-modules sounds like a good idea | 10:42 |
| ripps | The problem is in lucid too, would it be possible to backport the driver there, as well? | 10:42 |
| smb | If you say Lucid, too. Is the other release Maverick? Ultimately for Maverick it would be a goal to update the driver upstream as well. Though it might be a bit late for that. And yes, for Lucid I think it would be reasonable to have that backport there as well. Maybe needs thinking of having a seperately grouped binary package, like linux-backports-input | 10:45 |
| ripps | sounds good to me. | 10:45 |
| ripps | although, the kernel input api is different between the lucid kernel and the maverick kernel, so the maverick version of the wacom source needs to be tweaked | 10:47 |
| ripps | Is there a guide out there on how to make a linux-backports package? | 10:47 |
| smb | ripps, So I would say the best approach is to bring the issue and proposal up in a mail to kernel-team@lists.ubuntu.com and let it be discussed/documented there | 10:47 |
| smb | ripps, We do the l-b-m package and sadly I guess to make that extension is rather well undocumented and probably complex. | 10:48 |
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| tseliot | apw, smb: I've found a regression in the kernel from 2.6.32 to 2.6.35 which affects the radeon driver. How do you suggest that I start bisecting? I cloned the maverick branch but obviously it doesn't contain an Ubuntu-2.6.32 tag | 11:38 |
| apw | tseliot, thats triciker | 11:38 |
| tseliot | apw: how tricky is that? | 11:39 |
| apw | tseliot, i would try the mainline kernels and see if the issue is in there | 11:39 |
| tseliot | ah | 11:39 |
| apw | as thats much easier to bisect | 11:39 |
| apw | and you can use the mainline builds in between to narrow your search | 11:40 |
| tseliot | apw: and shall I rely on the date the kernel was built and look it up in the linus tree? | 11:41 |
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| apw | tseliot, how to map an ubuntu kernel into a mainline version is a question in the kernel FAQ :) | 11:53 |
| apw | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/FAQ#Given an Ubuntu kernel package version how do we find the exact mainline release it is based on? | 11:54 |
| apw | which points you here: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/info/kernel-version-map.html | 11:54 |
| tseliot | apw: thanks, I'll RTFM ;) | 11:54 |
| apw | :) | 11:57 |
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| ripps | did the kernel-team mailinglist get my linux-backports-input proposal? | 12:44 |
| smb | ripps, Did not yet see anything but it might be stuck in moderation until the right half of the planet is awake | 12:45 |
| TeTeT | smb: thanks for your kernel source, it was built yesterday evening and we test it today :) | 13:32 |
| smb | TeTeT, Good to hear | 13:33 |
| apw | pgraner, how is your machine which was grinding till we freed the buffers ... how many more cycles has it managed | 13:45 |
| pgraner | apw, its done 35 and was doing fine until I started copying data to the usb disk, now even mumble is dead, I had to switch to my netbook | 13:47 |
| pgraner | apw, same box is showing the I/O issues | 13:47 |
| apw | pgraner, ok | 13:48 |
| apw | 35 would be counted as success me thinks on the original issue | 13:48 |
| pgraner | apw, yep I would agree, so tgardner's patch should do the trick | 13:48 |
| apw | pgraner, fingers crossed | 13:48 |
| andreserl | hi all. I was wondering how can I know which cn_idx number I should use for DRBD. Where can I find that #? | 14:08 |
| apw | andreserl, you might have better luck asking that on #ubuntu-server as they do more with DRBD than we do | 14:09 |
| andreserl | apw, yeah but afaik the cn_idx is the number related to the kernel. But will try asking there :) THanks | 14:10 |
| andreserl | (I mean the number that the module uses in the kernel) | 14:10 |
| apw | andreserl, its just not a kernel feature most of us would routinely use, they might and might answer sooner (or indeed at all :) | 14:10 |
| andreserl | apw, ok :) | 14:11 |
| andreserl | thanks | 14:11 |
| * apw cirtanly has no idea what the cn_idx even is :) | 14:15 | |
| smb | apw, Guess we can guess what the idx part is but cn... :) | 14:20 |
| tgardner | smb, cn == channel number ? | 14:20 |
| andreserl | connection index | 14:21 |
| smb | Could be a lot without knowing. So andreserl might know more than us here | 14:22 |
| andreserl | smb, I just know I need to now the cn_idx for the DRBD kernel module and make the change in the drbd8 package before uploading :/ | 14:23 |
| apw | what does cn_idx stand for even | 14:23 |
| apw | idx presumably is the index ... | 14:24 |
| smb | apw, I think we were at connection index | 14:24 |
| andreserl | apw, connection index | 14:24 |
| smb | But server is likely the guys. Given they provide the kernel module as dkms | 14:24 |
| andreserl | smb, The drbd kernel module is included in the kernel starting from 2.6.33, | 14:25 |
| andreserl | so there's no longer the need to use dkms | 14:25 |
| andreserl | and even so, when using dkms, we also specify the cn_idx | 14:26 |
| smb | andreserl, ok, I might be backwards there. Last thing I remember was making it dkms because we had it in seperate modues and too often behind what was needed | 14:27 |
| * apw is looking for it | 14:29 | |
| andreserl | smb, ummm what I know is that in drbd module was in hardy kernel, after that, it wasn't. And for what I understand, from now on, the DRBD module will be in the kernel starting from 2.6.33 | 14:29 |
| andreserl | http://www.drbd.org/download/mainline/ | 14:31 |
| andreserl | in the drbd8 source package, in debian/dkms.conf we specify the cn_idx: "MODULES_CONF[0]="options drbd cn_idx=7" | 14:33 |
| andreserl | in hardy, Intrepid, I believe it used to be 6 | 14:33 |
| andreserl | in debian is 4 | 14:33 |
| andreserl | so now in maverick, I don't really know which one is it | 14:33 |
| apw | include/linux/connector.h:#define CN_IDX_DRBD 0x8 | 14:34 |
| andreserl | apw, awesome! thanks :) | 14:34 |
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| amitk | tgardner: looks like you're the person with the IGEPv2 OMAP board | 15:19 |
| tgardner | amitk, oddly enough, I am just in the process of turning it on this morning. I've never encountered a web site that is quite so bad (http://www.igep-platform.com) | 15:23 |
| amitk | heh :) | 15:24 |
| amitk | tgardner: some folks are interested in knowing if it is well-supported in ubuntu. My suspicion is that it'll required only a few patches to get it well supported. | 15:25 |
| tgardner | amitk, the default image isa 2.6.28 kernel, but I see they alaso have up to 2.6.33 on their web site | 15:26 |
| hrw | tgardner: I would just try to boot default ubuntu omap3 kernel | 15:26 |
| tgardner | amitk, perhaps I should just try a Lucid omap3 rootfs? | 15:26 |
| amitk | tgardner: just boot with lucid | 15:27 |
| amitk | including the kernel | 15:27 |
| tgardner | amitk, easier said then done. still figuring out how to do that. | 15:27 |
| amitk | the only thing I have no idea about is the bootloader on there.... so keep what they ship with. | 15:27 |
| tgardner | amitk, I think it'll boot from micro SD | 15:28 |
| amitk | tgardner: keyword: ogra | 15:28 |
| amitk | tgardner: but yes, micro-sd is the quickest way | 15:28 |
| tgardner | amitk, gotta find the rootfs first. somewhere on ubuntu.com ? | 15:29 |
| amitk | tgardner: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/10.04/release/ | 15:32 |
| tgardner | amitk, try the omap server install? | 15:33 |
| amitk | tgardner: yes, unfortunately we don't provide premade rootfs yet | 15:34 |
| amitk | you can create your own rootfs with rootstock scripts | 15:34 |
| tgardner | amitk, so if it boots from SD, where does it install? External USB driver? | 15:34 |
| mpoirier | tgardner: you'll have to use netboot to get your setup on SD card. | 15:35 |
| amitk | yes, USB drive/HDD | 15:35 |
| mpoirier | tgardner: I'm running into the same problem install lucid UNR on beagleboard. | 15:36 |
| tgardner | mpoirier, on the phone, hang on. | 15:40 |
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| apw | tseliot, about ? | 15:46 |
| tseliot | apw: yep | 15:46 |
| apw | wondering if you knew what plymouth did when it is started ... whether it clears the VT it is selecting for instance | 15:47 |
| apw | in broad terms its activity while owning the VT | 15:48 |
| apw | tseliot, ^^ | 15:49 |
| apw | tseliot, can i get plymouth to tell me what happened to it during a boot for instance. interested to know (as an example) if it gets a resize event on drm load | 15:51 |
| tseliot | apw: plymouth gets its own "screen" that it swaps in with a black screen (at the beginning) | 15:51 |
| tseliot | ah, a resize event? Why do you need to know that? | 15:52 |
| apw | well i am trying to work out when plymouth has control over the screen and what it does during the time | 15:53 |
| apw | it being the one which switches VT is interesting | 15:53 |
| tseliot | apw: if you want some good answers you can join #plymouth and ask halfline (i.e. the author). He's very helpful | 15:54 |
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| manjo | JFo, are we having the bug chat this morning ? | 16:07 |
| JFo | no, we are having the team bug day in this channel | 16:08 |
| JFo | there was no plan for a bug chat | 16:08 |
| JFo | just coordination to keep from duplicating effort | 16:08 |
| manjo | JFo, my cal says 10am-1pm .. could my cal is misbehaving | 16:08 |
| JFo | nope, that is correct | 16:09 |
| JFo | 3 hour block per tgardner to solely work on bugs | 16:09 |
| smb | manjo, Mine says from 5pm to 8pm, yours is in the wrong tz. ;-P | 16:09 |
| JFo | nicely blocked out on the cal by request of smb | 16:09 |
| JFo | :) | 16:09 |
| smb | Right, at least we won't forget it then | 16:10 |
| manjo | yeah don't know why my cal is always messed up | 16:10 |
| manjo | we need utc google cal | 16:10 |
| JFo | hmmm, your times may be off. tgardner wants it to start at 8AM PST | 16:10 |
| * smb hopes manjo recognizes a joke when it passes by | 16:10 | |
| JFo | heh | 16:11 |
| manjo | smb, wrong tz... ah you got me ! | 16:11 |
| smb | sorry could not resist | 16:11 |
| bjf | manjo, the time is now 8:12 PST | 16:11 |
| manjo | smb, yeah easy target | 16:12 |
| JFo | 12 minutes past the start of the bug day | 16:12 |
| tgardner | JFo, your search URL in the calendar event doesn't produce many items | 16:13 |
| smb | apw, JFo So there one or the other where at least some issues are understood but whether there is a fix is unclear and also how much other issues are mixed | 16:13 |
| smb | like bug 563156 | 16:13 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 563156 in linux (Ubuntu) "[ATI Graphics][Lucid] laptop runs hot, shorter battery life, fan always on (affects: 31) (heat: 179)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/563156 | 16:13 |
| JFo | tgardner, search url? | 16:13 |
| tgardner | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bugs?field.tag=regression-proposed+karmic&field.tags_combinator=ALL | 16:13 |
| JFo | ugh | 16:14 |
| JFo | wrong link | 16:14 |
| manjo | tgardner, http://qa.ubuntu.com/reports/jfo/kernel-Top50.html | 16:14 |
| JFo | I'll fix | 16:14 |
| smb | tgardner, I replied to his mail with the right link | 16:14 |
| smb | I hope to the right mail | 16:14 |
| amitk | JFo: what group membership gets all that bug mail? (I want to remove myself from the group). kernel-bugs doesn't seem to be it. | 16:14 |
| JFo | tgardner, changed it now | 16:14 |
| tgardner | amitk, ubuntu-kernel-team ? | 16:14 |
| amitk | tgardner: aah, it is kernel-team? | 16:15 |
| manjo | amitk, arnt you *supposed* to be subscribed to get all bug mails ? | 16:15 |
| JFo | smb, I had a bad link in the calendar item | 16:15 |
| JFo | so I fixed it | 16:15 |
| JFo | sorry for leaving it out of the e-mail | 16:15 |
| amitk | manjo: nope, everyone in a _certain_ group gets all bug mail filed against the linux package | 16:15 |
| smb | JFo, Oh calendar. :) Good. I saw that there was only a [1] in your mail | 16:15 |
| JFo | got in too big a hurry | 16:15 |
| tgardner | amitk, I get 'em because of 'You received this bug notification because you are a member of Canonical Kernel Team' | 16:15 |
| bjf | tgardner, i think amitk is saying he no longer wishes to be "a member of Canonical Kernel Team" | 16:16 |
| tgardner | bjf, I'm not sure he gets a choice there. | 16:17 |
| JFo | heh | 16:17 |
| bjf | tgardner, maybe he is giving notice :-) | 16:17 |
| amitk | bjf: I've got 24871 emails in my ubuntu-bugs folder (and growing). But yes, that'd be a nice subtle way to give notice ;) | 16:18 |
| tgardner | amitk, weren't you the one promoting server side procmail ? | 16:18 |
| JFo | don't do it amitk! think of the children! ;) | 16:18 |
| amitk | tgardner: it is all filtered away nicely, but it is an eyesore | 16:19 |
| jjohansen | bjf: http://launchpad.net/kslm | 16:23 |
| bjf | jjohansen, thanks | 16:24 |
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| jjohansen | bjf: also www.headinthecloud.net | 16:24 |
| bjf | jjohansen, am i missing something, that launchpad link is little more than a title | 16:27 |
| jjohansen | bjf: nope, that is all I have | 16:28 |
| jjohansen | well that and the headinthecloud.net | 16:28 |
| bjf | pgraner, http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~bradf/table.html | 16:38 |
| jjohansen | bjf: from what I gathered kslm doesn't do atop functionality yet "KSLM which may add similar capabilities to the kernel but in a more elegant way" | 16:39 |
| jjohansen | bjf: from looking around I am not sure it does anything yet, I've asked SpamapS if he has anymore info | 16:40 |
| bjf | jjohansen, from the comment on the mailing list and the lack of other information, it's vaporware | 16:40 |
| jjohansen | yeah, that is my impression | 16:40 |
| bjf | JFo, is there a wiki page with your "standard replies"? | 16:53 |
| JFo | there isn't one with the kernel specific ones yet | 16:53 |
| JFo | there is for regular bug comments | 16:54 |
| JFo | but I assume you want the kernel specific ones | 16:54 |
| bjf | JFo, ack | 16:54 |
| manjo | sconklin, he is deafend | 16:54 |
| JFo | actually, I seem to recall there being one in KernelTeam bjf | 16:54 |
| sconklin | manjo: no biggie. | 16:55 |
| JFo | I remember ogasawara pointing me to it | 16:55 |
| bjf | JFo, i'll hunt a bit | 16:55 |
| ogasawara | lemme dig it up, just a sec | 16:55 |
| * manjo gets some coffee | 16:55 | |
| sconklin | JFo: I've seen a bunch of "Pulse audio crashes when I play something" and "PA crashes when I configure inputs for recording" bugs lately - there are patches for some of those in the pile that's waiting in stable, which will get queued after the next security update for Lucid. | 16:56 |
| JFo | excellent | 16:56 |
| JFo | thanks for the heads up sconklin | 16:56 |
| sconklin | it'll be a couple of weeks at least until they hit preproposed | 16:57 |
| sconklin | possibly less | 16:57 |
| ogasawara | bjf: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses but I don't think that has our kernel stock replies listed | 16:57 |
| tgardner | amitk, is there a Freenode ARM channel? | 16:57 |
| ogra | tgardner, bing it to the sprint and we'll get the board running maverick :) | 16:58 |
| ogra | *bring even | 16:58 |
| tgardner | ogra, I've got the Lucid image on SD, but can't figure out how to get it to boot it. | 16:59 |
| amitk | tgardner: #ubuntu-arm, #armlinux, #linaro | 16:59 |
| amitk | take your pick | 16:59 |
| tgardner | amitk, ack | 17:00 |
| ogra | tgardner, lucid only includes bootloader binaries for bagelboards | 17:01 |
| ogra | *beagle ... (they dont have a hole :P ) | 17:01 |
| ogra | tgardner, its likely that you need another bootloader binary | 17:02 |
| bjf | ogra, bagelboards, if they don't boot you can eat em | 17:02 |
| tgardner | ogra, this gizmo has x-boot and u-boot, though I don't know what is actually installed | 17:02 |
| ogra | tgardner, so you end up in a serial u-boot prompt if you fire it up ? | 17:03 |
| tgardner | ogra, nope, its got a 2.6.28 kernel that brings up X. | 17:03 |
| ogra | hmm | 17:03 |
| tgardner | using on-board flash that came with it pre-programmed | 17:04 |
| ogra | well, you should see the boot process on the serial console somehow | 17:04 |
| tgardner | ogra, I don't have the serial adapter, Loic is bringing it | 17:04 |
| ogra | and usually u-boot has an option to stop the boot so you can input bootloader cmds | 17:04 |
| ogra | ah | 17:04 |
| ogra | yeah, without it gets tricky | 17:04 |
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| tgardner | ogra, the monitor goes white until too late. by then the kernel has booted. | 17:05 |
| ogra | i'm hoping linaro finds a way to add framebuffer console support to u-boot some day | 17:05 |
| * ogra hates serial consoles with passion | 17:05 | |
| tgardner | ogra, yeah, this one requires the usual square pin header | 17:06 |
| ogra | ah, i'll have mine with me | 17:06 |
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| bjf | JFo, ogasawara https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BugTriage/Responses | 17:12 |
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| JFo | awesoem, thanks bj | 17:13 |
| JFo | sigh | 17:13 |
| JFo | bjf that is | 17:13 |
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| JFo | I am not a keyboard cowboy today\ | 17:13 |
| JFo | see ^ | 17:13 |
| bjf | JFo, i just worked bug 494476 a bit | 17:21 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 494476 in linux (Ubuntu) ""Smbd","kjournald2" and "rsync" blocked for more than 120 seconds while using ext4. (affects: 5) (heat: 32)" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/494476 | 17:21 |
| ogasawara | smb: can you refresh my memory...when sending a patch to stable, should I CC everyone who signed off on the patch or just CC the maintainer? | 17:21 |
| ogasawara | smb: I'm basically looking at upstream commit 68f194e027ecfbbc8d5515bc40787e542eed59e9 for bug 544740 | 17:21 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 544740 in linux (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 1 other project) "fix for iSight cameras not being recognized (affects: 3) (heat: 20)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/544740 | 17:21 |
| JFo | that is an interesting bug bjf | 17:21 |
| ogasawara | smb: and I assume stable is still accepting patches for 2.6.32.y? | 17:22 |
| smb | ogasawara, I usually cc all on sob | 17:22 |
| smb | ogasawara, Yes, still open. Usually if it applies to all in stable it gets applied to all. Currently .32, .33 and .34 | 17:23 |
| smb | Not sure how long .33 goes on | 17:23 |
| ogasawara | smb: cool. yah my main concern is .32 for Lucid | 17:24 |
| smb | ogasawara, As it would be mine. :) | 17:24 |
| bjf | cnd, ping | 17:28 |
| tseliot | apw: do we have a kernel 2.6.35 without maverick's patches in the mainline repository? | 17:34 |
| apw | we have 2.6.35-rcN in there yes | 17:34 |
| tseliot | I'm asking because I can't find any: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ | 17:35 |
| apw | tseliot, look to be there to me | 17:35 |
| tseliot | apw: I can see v2.6.35-rc5-maverick | 17:35 |
| apw | thats the one yes | 17:35 |
| tseliot | apw: but isn't that based on maverick's tree? | 17:36 |
| * smb sees a faq question coming up | 17:36 | |
| tseliot | yes, I know that mainline kernels are supposed to come from upstream | 17:36 |
| apw | smb, its already in the faq | 17:36 |
| apw | tseliot, that is the release from which the configuration came | 17:37 |
| smb | apw, I know. I should have probably said sees the pointer to faw coming | 17:37 |
| tseliot | oh, "Why do mainline kernel builds have a -<series> suffix?" | 17:37 |
| apw | heheh yeah | 17:37 |
| * manjo getting lunch will be back soon | 17:37 | |
| tseliot | my sight is not good when my blood pressure is low, sorry | 17:37 |
| smb | tseliot, No worries. Being a bit silly which I attribute to the heat | 17:38 |
| tseliot | it's really too hot here in Italy | 17:39 |
| smb | Same here in Germany | 17:39 |
| apw | tseliot, whats the temp today? is a nice 20c here | 17:40 |
| tseliot | lucky you, it's more than 32° here... | 17:40 |
| tseliot | and it's humid | 17:40 |
| smb | apw, In the sun it seems to be near 40 here | 17:41 |
| tseliot | I heard they have 40° in Venice... | 17:41 |
| smb | But 34 is probably more realistic | 17:41 |
| * apw likes the .uk | 17:41 | |
| * smb will ask again when apw is drowning in rain | 17:42 | |
| tseliot | apw: in what part of the UK? | 17:42 |
| * bjf notes it is currently 17 C here in portland | 17:42 | |
| * ogra is envious | 17:42 | |
| tseliot | Portland - Oregon? | 17:42 |
| bjf | tseliot, yes | 17:42 |
| apw | smb, indeed :) tseliot in london near wimbledon tennis | 17:43 |
| tseliot | ah | 17:43 |
| tseliot | is Portland as rainy as London (I've never been to London or to the UK) | 17:44 |
| tseliot | ? | 17:44 |
| bjf | tseliot, we have had a *lot* of rain this last 12 months | 17:44 |
| ogra | if you want to see real rain go to bergen in norway | 17:45 |
| tseliot | I noticed that when I visited Portland in January | 17:45 |
| ogra | they have umbrella vending machines on every corner | 17:45 |
| tseliot | hehe | 17:45 |
| * tseliot reboots | 17:46 | |
| * smb thinks he did enough damage for today and relocates somewhere closer to cool drinks | 17:46 | |
| * jjohansen nees to run an errand for 30 min | 17:56 | |
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| ogasawara | JFo: I just noticed a small typo in the KernelBugListTop50.py script which I think is preventing the Won't Fix bugs from showing up under the Closed Bugs section on the web page | 17:57 |
| JFo | hmm, I hadn't even noticed | 17:58 |
| ogasawara | JFo: line 217, there's as bit to check bug_task.status == "Won't Fix " | 17:58 |
| JFo | ah the space | 17:58 |
| ogasawara | JFo: yep | 17:58 |
| ogasawara | JFo: I'd fix it myself, but I don't have permissions to commit it to the canonical-qa-tracking tree | 17:59 |
| JFo | k, no sweat | 17:59 |
| JFo | ogasawara, fixed | 18:02 |
| ogasawara | JFo: sweet, thanks | 18:03 |
| JFo | np | 18:03 |
| JFo | may take a bit for it to pull and run | 18:03 |
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| jjohansen | bjf: just got confirmation that KSLM is pie in the sky vaporware atm | 18:26 |
| bjf | jjohansen, nice! | 18:26 |
| Keybuk | People who include the mouse cursor in screenshots should be killed | 18:33 |
| Keybuk | *glares at cking* | 18:33 |
| apw | ogasawara, are you looking at bug#589123 | 18:35 |
| ogasawara | apw: I was just digging into that, but it seems it's dependent on addition config options | 18:36 |
| apw | ogasawara, ok i'll move on | 18:36 |
| tgardner | Keybuk, I sent a merge request for ureadahead. did I get it right this time? | 18:36 |
| Keybuk | tgardner: will look later | 18:36 |
| Keybuk | oh, no, it's right in front of me | 18:37 |
| Keybuk | yes, that looks right :p | 18:37 |
| apw | ogasawara, so this top 50, i think we want to elide the closed bugs from the top table now don't we | 18:37 |
| tgardner | Keybuk, how do I test it? I installed an updated package and rebooted, but the trace buffer size is still 1408. Can I exercize ureadahead without rebooting? | 18:38 |
| ogasawara | apw: I thought the original consensus was to keep them there, but it's an easy tweak to omit them | 18:38 |
| apw | i th | 18:38 |
| Keybuk | tgardner: sure, just run ureadahead | 18:38 |
| Keybuk | ;) | 18:38 |
| Keybuk | w/ --force-trace etc. | 18:38 |
| ogasawara | apw: I prefer them not showing at the top as they're displayed at the bottom as closed anyways | 18:39 |
| apw | ogasawara, it not clear quite how we can count the active ones if the closed ones are in the top | 18:39 |
| Keybuk | I think 1408 kB is the default | 18:39 |
| Keybuk | wing-commander scott% cat /sys/kernel/debug/tracing/buffer_size_kb | 18:39 |
| Keybuk | 7 (expanded: 1408) | 18:39 |
| Keybuk | no idea what that expanded stuff means | 18:39 |
| Keybuk | probably the minimum size ~1.5MB | 18:39 |
| jbarnes | arg | 18:40 |
| jbarnes | make install from my kernel tree *still* doesn't work in 10.04 | 18:40 |
| tgardner | Keybuk, well, regardless of what the initial value should be, ureadahead appears to be restoring it. | 18:41 |
| Keybuk | cool | 18:42 |
| Keybuk | it should | 18:42 |
| Keybuk | it always used to, until I deleted that code ;-) | 18:43 |
| tgardner | Keybuk, shall I upload it again for Lucid? | 18:43 |
| Keybuk | for lucid, I'll be uploading ureadahead2 soon enough | 18:43 |
| tgardner | Keybuk, just to be clear, ureadahead2 is for Maverick only? | 18:44 |
| Keybuk | yes | 18:45 |
| apw | jbarnes, did we break you ? | 18:50 |
| jbarnes | apw: yeah I think it worked briefly | 18:51 |
| jbarnes | but somehow /sbin/installkernel lost its mkinitramfs and update-grub calls | 18:51 |
| tgardner | apw, debian commonization? | 18:51 |
| apw | tgardner, not sure we even supply that file | 18:52 |
| apw | nope its part of debianutils | 18:52 |
| tgardner | oh, I thought it was part of post-init | 18:52 |
| apw | tgardner, yep we do it there as well for our kernels | 18:53 |
| * tgardner is feeling stupid, must need lunch. | 18:55 | |
| apw | jbarnes, seems to be a direct sync from debian, so i guess they are borked too | 18:56 |
| jbarnes | yeah maybe, I haven't tried regular debian | 18:58 |
| jbarnes | maybe you should use the fedora bits :) | 18:58 |
| apw | jbarnes, heh thanks | 18:58 |
| ogasawara | JFo: sent you email with a patch to the KernelBugListTop50.py script to omit showing the closed bugs at the top, since we already display them at the bottom | 19:02 |
| JFo | cool, thank you | 19:02 |
| apw | JFo, so how is the bug 'hours' going ? | 19:03 |
| apw | are we going to get stats like we do for normal bug days ? | 19:03 |
| apw | with little up and down arrows ? | 19:03 |
| JFo | hmm, I didn't set that up for this, but I should get that going | 19:03 |
| JFo | I actually forgot all about it | 19:03 |
| JFo | haven't been doing it for the Bug Days either | 19:04 |
| * JFo fail | 19:04 | |
| apw | JFo, ogasawara, btw currently 'Won't Fix' is not a closed state ... which is is | 19:04 |
| ogasawara | apw: it's a closed state, should be fixed with the patch I just sent JFo | 19:04 |
| apw | ogasawara, cool thanks | 19:05 |
| * apw has hit 5 at least ... in two hours ... hrmph | 19:05 | |
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| ogasawara | JFo: I'd found one other place where there was an additional whitespace inserted | 19:05 |
| JFo | k | 19:06 |
| apw | JFo, does that mean its too late to get the before numbers ? | 19:09 |
| JFo | apw, most likely | 19:10 |
| JFo | the only thing that could be possible... | 19:10 |
| JFo | one sec.. let me check something | 19:10 |
| apw | JFo, it nice to be able to see if anyone bothered | 19:11 |
| ogasawara | JFo: it might be possible to extract the before numbers by looking at http://qa.ubuntu.com/reports/jfo/kernel-buglist-Top50-archive/kernel-buglist-2010-07-13.html | 19:17 |
| JFo | yep was just looking at that | 19:18 |
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| jjohansen | -> lunch | 19:51 |
| sabdfl | hello all | 20:02 |
| sabdfl | who's the right person to look into https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/554099 | 20:02 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 554099 in linux (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 3 other projects) "[PATCH] Qualcomm Gobi 2000 3G (gobi_loader/qcserial) broken in 10.04 (affects: 45) (dups: 4) (heat: 274)" [High,Confirmed] | 20:02 |
| sabdfl | common 3G device that doesn't work with lucid but needs to | 20:02 |
| sabdfl | pgraner: ^? | 20:02 |
| bjf | jfo, lets get this bug ^ on our top 50 and i'll at least start looking at it | 20:06 |
| bjf | sabdfl, that ok? | 20:07 |
| JFo | yep, sorry, was off reading the bug | 20:07 |
| JFo | it will be added, chatting with pgraner about it now | 20:07 |
| bjf | JFo, sabdfl looks like there are patches attached the bug, i'll look at them | 20:08 |
| JFo | thanks bjf | 20:08 |
| JFo | sabdfl, I've made pgraner aware of the issue. He was taking care of an errand before travel this week. | 20:09 |
| JFo | I have added the bug to our "hot list" | 20:09 |
| JFo | bjf, looks like it is no issue for MAverick | 20:13 |
| bjf | JFo, ack, though i'd like to see more testing there to be sure | 20:13 |
| JFo | I agree | 20:13 |
| JFo | tgardner, you around? | 20:14 |
| tgardner | JFo, yo | 20:14 |
| JFo | any experience with gobi_loader? | 20:15 |
| tgardner | nope | 20:15 |
| JFo | per the bug mentioned by sabdfl above | 20:15 |
| JFo | hmmm | 20:15 |
| tgardner | looking | 20:15 |
| JFo | thank you | 20:15 |
| JFo | :) | 20:15 |
| tgardner | JFo, looks like smb has already been working on the Lucid solution via LBM. bug #592046 | 20:18 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 592046 in linux-backports-modules-2.6.32 (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 3 other projects) "Lenovo x201 WWAN module in Lucid kernel (dup-of: 554099)" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/592046 | 20:18 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 554099 in linux (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 3 other projects) "[PATCH] Qualcomm Gobi 2000 3G (gobi_loader/qcserial) broken in 10.04 (affects: 45) (dups: 4) (heat: 274)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/554099 | 20:18 |
| JFo | ah, great news | 20:18 |
| * JFo loads those bugs | 20:18 | |
| JFo | or rather that bug, since I have the other open already | 20:19 |
| JFo | ah, now I remember why this is familiar | 20:20 |
| tgardner | JFo, I suggest dropping a note to smb requesting that he git 'er done. | 20:21 |
| JFo | I was just thinking that | 20:21 |
| bjf | JFo, i/we need to get with smb and get the bug updated (the one sabdfl pointed at) | 20:21 |
| bjf | :-) | 20:21 |
| JFo | tgardner, do you think it worthwhile to copy over smb's request for testing? | 20:21 |
| JFo | bjf, you read my mind :) | 20:21 |
| tgardner | JFo, couldn't hurt | 20:21 |
| JFo | k, will do | 20:21 |
| bjf | JFo, tgardner if this is something that has lagged because of smb's load, i'll work with him to get 'er done | 20:22 |
| tgardner | bjf, I'm sure he won't mind | 20:23 |
| * smb get red ears | 20:23 | |
| smb | tgardner, The request itself had been dropped as the customer in question moved to a different hw but I have the patches prepared (but not tested) | 20:24 |
| jbarnes | apw: I'll trade you fixes: patch for fdo bug #28739 for a fix to installkernel :) | 20:24 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 28739 in mythplugins (Ubuntu) "--enable-exif (heat: 2)" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/28739 | 20:24 |
| jbarnes | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/578673 is the corresponding lp bug | 20:24 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 578673 in linux (Ubuntu) "[arrandale] Resume doesn't work on a Latitude E6410 (affects: 25) (dups: 2) (heat: 143)" [Critical,Confirmed] | 20:24 |
| bjf | smb, read the scrollback for another related bug sabdfl pointed us at | 20:24 |
| JFo | smb, is that package still there? | 20:24 |
| tgardner | smb, sounds like at least one _big_ customer is still interested. | 20:25 |
| smb | JFo, I did not delete it | 20:25 |
| JFo | ah good | 20:25 |
| JFo | I have asked for further testing of it in the related bug | 20:25 |
| JFo | if that makes sense to you | 20:25 |
| smb | JFo, tgardner One thing to note is that there is no firmware which is required | 20:25 |
| JFo | I saw that it seems to work in Maverick | 20:26 |
| JFo | is that due to these patches? | 20:26 |
| JFo | or rather it seems to work | 20:26 |
| smb | JFo, The kernel parts have gone upstream | 20:26 |
| JFo | bjf and I agree that more testing is probably warranted | 20:26 |
| JFo | cool | 20:26 |
| smb | JFo, But there is the fw-loader and the fw | 20:26 |
| JFo | I see | 20:26 |
| smb | mjg59, has done the loader but cannot provide fw | 20:27 |
| JFo | due to licensing | 20:27 |
| smb | as that is qualcom licensed | 20:27 |
| smb | Yeah | 20:27 |
| tgardner | smb, we could always drop it into the non-free package | 20:27 |
| smb | tgardner, The advice I've seen was to extract from win packages. So maybe fw cutter | 20:27 |
| mjg59 | The firmware is not only non-free, it's non-distributable | 20:28 |
| JFo | ugh | 20:28 |
| mjg59 | The license on the firmware packages expressly prohibits distribution | 20:28 |
| JFo | do we know someone at Qualcomm we can yell at? :-) j/k | 20:28 |
| mjg59 | I've yelled at everyone in Qualcomm I've found without any joy | 20:28 |
| JFo | tgardner, is that an option? | 20:29 |
| JFo | or would we open ourselves to issues | 20:29 |
| tgardner | smb, well then, perhaps a README with instructions for how to get the firmware. | 20:29 |
| tgardner | why does Maverick work ? | 20:30 |
| JFo | good question | 20:30 |
| JFo | hence my thought that more testing is needed | 20:30 |
| smb | tgardner, Yes I hope I already copied the original one from mjg59 into the packaging | 20:30 |
| smb | But it was a quick job | 20:30 |
| smb | I wanted to know first whether the packaging in general works | 20:31 |
| mjg59 | I suspect Maverick works because the tester rebooted from Windows | 20:31 |
| JFo | ah, good point | 20:31 |
| tgardner | ah, the 'ol softboot ... | 20:31 |
| JFo | this is why i vaguely recalled this issue | 20:31 |
| mjg59 | Using Windows as a glorified firmware loader is obviously an option, but a kind of expensive one | 20:32 |
| JFo | and not at all desirable | 20:32 |
| JFo | :) | 20:32 |
| * JFo starts getting ready for his classroom session | 20:38 | |
| pgraner | tgardner, the bug sabdfl pointed out said it worked in Karmic, how was that the case if the firmware is a legal nightmare? | 20:44 |
| mjg59 | I know that there's several companies who have contracts with Qualcomm to distribute the firmware internally | 20:45 |
| tgardner | pgraner, well, we did do a bunch of firmware cleanup | 20:45 |
| mjg59 | Pre-Lucid,they'd just need to drop in the firmware and things would work. In Lucid, the kernel is broken | 20:45 |
| pgraner | tgardner, I did that during Jaunty/Karmic and I don't remember that one, and if we had it in linux-firmware, we moved it to -non-free | 20:46 |
| tgardner | pgraner, mjg59 points out that the driver in Lucid is just broken | 20:46 |
| pgraner | mjg59, ture, the reported didn't mention if they cut the fw and dropped it in | 20:46 |
| pgraner | tgardner, we should look in non-free and see if its there just in case | 20:47 |
| tgardner | pgraner, doesn't look like it is in non-free | 20:49 |
| pgraner | tgardner, ok then my guess is that they cut the fw and dropped it in | 20:50 |
| tgardner | pgraner, wou'dn't be surprised | 20:50 |
| pgraner | there goes the neighborhood... jcastro just arrived | 20:56 |
| jcastro | I am trying to figure out the main developer of a certain feature in the kernel (fscache), I have deduced from the upstream mailing list that it's probably David Howells @ Red Hat. Is there a way I can find out for sure without checking out the entire kernel? | 20:56 |
| jcastro | also, hi pgraner, good to see you too. :D | 20:56 |
| tgardner | jcastro, FS-CACHE: LOCAL CACHING FOR NETWORK FILESYSTEMS | 20:57 |
| tgardner | M: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com> | 20:57 |
| tgardner | L: linux-cachefs@redhat.com | 20:57 |
| tgardner | S: Supported | 20:57 |
| tgardner | F: Documentation/filesystems/caching/ | 20:57 |
| tgardner | F: fs/fscache/ | 20:57 |
| tgardner | F: include/linux/fscache*.h | 20:57 |
| jcastro | tgardner: thank you very much! | 20:57 |
| simar | Good Luck JFo , for the current session :) | 20:59 |
| JFo | thanks :) | 20:59 |
| pgraner | just like a community guy drop in here only when they need something.... | 20:59 |
| pgraner | jcastro, ^^^^^^^^^ | 20:59 |
| jcastro | pgraner: I am waiting on your guy to finish the docs so I can finish my forum work item. :p | 20:59 |
| JFo | I'm headed to #ubuntu-classroom for those who'd like to join me | 20:59 |
| JFo | jcastro, :-P | 20:59 |
| simar | cheers for JFo !!! | 21:00 |
| bjf | JFo, i love a good train wreck :-P | 21:00 |
| JFo | heh | 21:00 |
| achiang | jcastro: if you're trying to avoid pulling the entire git tree, you can just look online http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=tree | 21:01 |
| sabdfl | bjf: thanks much, sorry was afk | 21:22 |
| bjf | sabdfl, no prob. looks like smb already has most of a solution | 21:23 |
| pgraner | sabdfl, looks like we have a patch, the issue with this card is the firmware, it is non-redistributable :-( | 21:23 |
| sabdfl | mjg59: we could try reach Qualcomm through another route | 21:23 |
| sabdfl | are there a whole bunch of different firmwares from QC we should ask about, or just this one? | 21:25 |
| mjg59 | There's a generic GSM firmware, a generic CDMA firmware and then at least 10 carrier-specific firmwares | 21:26 |
| solarion | sabdfl: hey | 21:36 |
| ogasawara | JFo: good session | 21:46 |
| JFo | thanks ogasawara :) | 21:46 |
| bjf | JFo, good job | 21:46 |
| JFo | thank you bjf | 21:46 |
| pgraner | JFo, good one | 21:48 |
| JFo | thanks pgraner | 21:48 |
| JFo | hope i covered the items clearly | 21:48 |
| sconklin | yeah JFo I caught the end, it was good | 21:49 |
| JFo | cool, thanks sconklin | 21:49 |
| pgraner | jjohansen, any news on AA upstreaming? | 21:56 |
| jjohansen | pgraner: just running checkpatch on my patches | 21:57 |
| jjohansen | ended up doing a bug fix yesterday | 21:57 |
| pgraner | jjohansen, cool, ping me when you send it upstream pls | 21:58 |
| jjohansen | pgraner: do you want a CC on the header email? | 21:59 |
| pgraner | jjohansen, whatever is easiest for you | 21:59 |
| jjohansen | pgraner: ack | 22:00 |
| pgraner | jjohansen, thanks | 22:00 |
| * pgraner is outta here for the day, gotta pack travel tomorrow... later | 22:21 | |
| === pgraner is now known as pgraner-afk | ||
| JFo | same here | 22:24 |
| JFo | see you chaps | 22:24 |
| * manjo heads out to get some exercise | 22:43 | |
| === bjf is now known as bjf[afk] | ||
| === sconklin is now known as sconklin-gone | ||
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