[01:42] <IdleOne>  m00se is now known as SpelingNazi in #u
[01:42] <IdleOne> the nick makes me shiver
[01:43] <IdleOne> changed back now
[02:04] <IdleOne> user1_ seems to be trolling
[05:40] <bazhang> !lmgtfy
[10:30] <Jordan_U> WakoJackoH in #ubuntu.
[12:50] <bazhang> evilnhandler, connection issues?
[12:51] <Pici> dear evilnhandler, please fix connection. kthx, the internet
[13:54] <bazhang> that seems to have been icebreaker from yesterday
[13:54] <Pici> Oh, indeed.
[14:00] <elky> I'm guessing he didn't get the message from The Internet.
[14:49] <jpds> elky: He's just being evil.
[14:49] <Pici> And aparrently you can't ban(forward) staffers, so we're stuck.
[14:50] <jpds> We could always have him k-lined.
[15:35] <ikonia> ughh really
[15:37] <IdleOne> really?
[15:39] <jpds> Ya rly.
[15:40] <IdleOne> orly
[15:40] <IdleOne> removed some old bans of mine
[15:48] <h00k> I just removed a bit but I'm incredibly laggy
[15:48] <h00k> *bot
[15:49] <IdleOne> h00k: yeah the bot was removed
[15:55] <h00k> IdleOne: I saw that
[15:55] <h00k> Don't know who it belonged to
[15:55] <Pici> May have just been a user with annoying scripts.
[15:56] <h00k> that too
[15:56] <IdleOne> was just some google script
[15:56] <IdleOne> I have seen sideone before in the channel
[16:09] <IdleOne> Pici: say something without highlighting me please
[16:09] <Pici> what?
[16:09] <IdleOne> perfect
[16:09] <IdleOne> thank you
[16:18] <Pici> nhandler: If you have a moment, you may want to look at http://freeprojects.zobyhost.com/ with your staffer hat.  Use curl or w3m or something though, its another one of those irc exploit attempts.
[16:18]  * nhandler is looking
[16:19] <ikonia> idiot
[16:19] <Pici> ikonia: was that you?
[16:20] <h00k> ohboy, spams.
[16:20] <ikonia> no
[16:21] <bazhang> already quit
[16:21]  * ikonia is awake now
[16:21] <h00k> full force.
[16:21] <h00k> It looks like that does the spamming
[16:21] <bazhang> chum_chum us bolt
[16:22] <h00k> wget, it's an index.html,
[16:22] <bazhang> err is
[16:22] <ikonia> bolt ?
[16:22] <bazhang> catdog, bolt
[16:22] <ikonia> I've not seen him for ages
[16:22] <ikonia> I've just unbanned one of his many accounts
[16:22] <h00k> <applet width="100%" height="400" code="IRCApplet.class" archive="irc.jar,pixx.jar" codebase="http://java.freenode.net/freenode/pjirc/">
[16:22] <ikonia> oh yes, same sky ip
[16:22] <h00k> etc.
[16:22] <bazhang> yep he's been around as nermal and chum_chum
[16:22] <ikonia> then he's been ban dodging until today
[16:23] <ikonia> however he's not caused a problem that I'm aware of
[16:23] <bazhang> nope and that genuinely was the wrong channel
[16:23] <bazhang> he's trolling ##windows
[17:25] <ikonia> should we have factoids saying how to rip DVD's ?
[17:25] <ikonia> it is illegal after all ?
[17:26] <IdleOne> not illegal to backup a legally purchased dvd
[17:26] <IdleOne> not here at least
[17:26] <ikonia> yes it is
[17:26] <ikonia> IdleOne: your in the USA ?
[17:26] <ikonia> it is illegal to break the copy protection
[17:26] <IdleOne> Canada
[17:26] <ikonia> neterlands?
[17:26] <ikonia> Hmmm not sure on canada
[17:26] <charlie-tca> Not every dvd is copy protected against making copies for your own use in the USA
[17:26] <IdleOne> might be illegal. I can't say for sure
[17:27] <IdleOne> the software is available in the repos. legal responsibilty lays on the user
[17:27] <ikonia> interesting
[17:28] <ikonia> Canada seems to say backing up a DVD is fine, but breaking the copy protection is
[17:28] <ikonia> which ties in with charlie-tca's comment
[17:28] <ikonia> so if it's not copy protected, backup is fine, cracking the copy protection isn't
[17:28] <ikonia> (from random notes I'm reading on the web about Canada
[17:28] <ikonia> but that would tie in with other countries too
[17:29] <ikonia> something we should consider though in #ubuntu
[17:29] <ikonia> we are helping people break the copy protection (one of the reasons ubuntu does not include libccs2 in the default install)
[17:30] <ikonia> popping out
[17:30] <IdleOne> we are telling a user how to backup his dvd not how to break the copy protection
[17:30] <charlie-tca> Actually, we aren't, because if the user should only be installing the applications and codecs that are legal for them
[17:31] <IdleOne> if he asks about breaking copy protection we then tell him we don't help with that.
[17:31] <charlie-tca> Not all video and audio codecs are legal in all countries
[17:32] <IdleOne> unless I am mistaken the software comes with a notice that the user must make sure it is legal for them to download/use the siftware in their country
[17:32] <IdleOne> software*
[17:34] <maco> i think copy protection breaking is only needed if you *rip* the DVD though, right? if you back it up to a .iso... shouldn't need it. i mean, dd can do that
[17:58] <gord> the laws regarding it are fuzzy from place to place, it doesn't make sense to not have the factoid just because some backwards countries make it an offence
[22:12] <ikonia> can anyone remember what alabd's native language is (the book translation he was doing)
[22:16] <ikonia> ah bazhang_ will know
[22:28] <nhandler> ikonia: Is he back?
[22:29] <ikonia> no, he was giving the guys in wikipedia a hard time (not intentionally) by not listening to the responses, he refused to answer questions about what his native language where, they wanted it to get him someone local to help
[22:29] <ikonia> as it happens they have a persian speaker among them, so now they know it's persian they may be able to communicate with him better
[22:29] <jpds> Well, we have the persia.
[22:30] <ikonia> hopefully that will help out the issues a little
[23:08] <topyli> oh alabd speaks persian? good to know for us too in case we need to help him again
[23:31] <Mamarok> @login
[23:31] <Mamarok> @btlogin