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bobboevening, anyone around?00:21
dakerhi bobbo00:27
bobboyo :D00:27
dakerthe team is still at 15%00:28
bobbo:(00:28
bobboguys, I got you to like 10%00:28
bobbo:P00:28
dakerUbuntu needs you guys00:29
* bobbo is sad00:30
bobboI'm gonna be holdin g a patch review Ubuntu Week session tomorrow00:30
bobbomaybe if I blog about it on the planet?00:31
bobbocas we really need more than 5% in like 2 months00:31
dakergood idea00:33
bobboOkies00:34
bobboI may or may not have had a few beers tonight so a proff read would be rally awesome00:34
bobbodaker?00:34
dakerbeers no no00:36
dakerbobbo, i need your support00:38
bobbohehe, I'm giving it a go00:38
bobboI'll pastebin a draft in about 5 minutes00:38
dakeri want a testimonial00:38
dakerhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdnaneBelmadiaf00:39
dakercan you ?00:39
bobbodraft: http://pastebin.com/f4VFgryw00:43
bobbodaker ^00:43
dakergood00:45
bobboshould I go ahead and post it?00:47
dakerit's oki for me00:49
bobbookay posted00:50
bobboany blatant spelling mistakes, give us a shout00:50
bobboyou want some testemonial?00:50
dakerif you want yes00:51
bobbowhat for?00:51
dakerwhat do you mean ?00:52
bobboare you apllying for anything?00:53
bobbowhy do you want me to give you a testemonial?00:53
dakeri want to apply for a membership00:53
dakerubuntu membership00:53
bobboawesome00:54
bobboif you can give me 3 links to bugs you have helped with, I can definitely write you one :)00:54
dakerwell not for now but very soon00:54
dakerreally :s00:54
bobboPM me or send them to bobbo [at] ubuntu [dawt] com00:55
bobboafter that I'll definitely write you one, I remember you working hard when I was doing work experience00:55
dakeroki i'll try00:56
dakerthanks00:56
bobbono problem :)00:56
dakerone thing00:56
bobboshoot00:56
daker3 bugs related to ubuntu ?00:57
bobboideally00:57
bobbojust 3 bugs you've touched in operation cleansweep (assuming you're participating as you're sitting in the channel :P)00:58
dakeroki i'll try00:58
bobboI kow you've been working at this, I just kinda need proof before I write any testemonials or anything00:59
bobboI'll be idling all tomorrow and running a UDW session at 16:00 UTC so I'll be around if you wanna ping me01:00
dakeri'll assist to the session01:01
bobboepic01:01
dakerto the django session too01:02
bobbonigelb & me ar co-hosting (apparently, I was emailed the other day,not heard from Nigel but assumign he's helping)01:02
bobboany help is greatly appreciated01:02
bobboI've not held a session in 2 months, I'm a little rusty01:02
dakerhow to know the list of bugs that still need patchs ?01:05
bobboit's in the topic01:07
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dakerbobbo, it would be nice if you mentioned the uses of Lernid01:54
dakeror linked the #ubuntu-classroom01:54
dakerso it can opend the irc client01:54
dakerirc://irc.freenode.org/#ubuntu-classroom01:57
dakerand  irc://irc.freenode.org/#ubuntu-classroom-chat01:57
nigelbbobbo: I thought you were helping ;)04:09
nigelbbobbo: I have a preliminary script ready.  I'll put into and etherpad when I get the time today so you can go over it04:18
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dholbachgood morning07:47
vishbobbo: well , since your review spree no one has been reviewing :(   , nigelb's laptop got busted , then it looked like i was the only one doing reviews for a couple of weeks..09:34
vishto test my theory i did not touch even a single review bug09:34
vish...and voila ! 0 reviewed last week ;p09:34
dholbachwe should go and reach out some more again09:36
dholbachand make sure the next Hug Day is a Patch Review Day09:37
dholbachalso let people know on the forums09:37
dholbachhttp://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=44 and http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=385 particularly09:37
vishyeah09:50
nigelbvish: my laptop bust-ing situation is getting fixed about now09:57
nigelbdholbach: I am *NOT* a forums person.  I hate forums :/09:58
dholbachnigelb: man, it's about sending some kind of announce there09:58
dholbachnigelb: not about participating in all discussions there09:59
nigelbahh, announce I can do09:59
dholbach(or moving all our discussions there)09:59
nigelblet me talk to people who are big on forums to talk about it09:59
nigelbI've seen maco guide people to us when they crib about "ubuntu sucks" ;)10:00
yofelnigelb: do we have a tag for ubuntu-only patches now? like for bug 55724010:34
ubot4Launchpad bug 557240 in ubufox (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 1 other project) "Disable "Report a Problem" menu item for the stable release (affects: 2) (heat: 47)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/55724010:34
nigelbno, suggested action, branch and request merge10:42
nigelbyofel: ^^10:42
yofeland what about the tag? as that's how we manager our todo list currently...10:43
yofel*manage10:43
nigelbunsubscribe team10:44
yofelok10:44
nigelbI spoke to brian some time back and that was his suggestion10:44
nigelbIt seemed good to me :)10:44
nigelbdholbach: did you see bdrung's mail? anything you might have added/removed to my reply?10:44
yofelmaybe add that to the workflow ;)10:44
nigelbyofel: yes, I was waiting to document such a situation.  can you finish and poke me with bug number?10:45
nigelbI'll get it added before my session10:45
dholbachnigelb: I'm a bit busy right now - hope to get to it later on10:45
nigelbdholbach: sure, no problem :)10:45
yofelnigelb: will do, might take a while though10:45
nigelbyofel: you can take until first session of UDW ;)10:46
yofelheh, np10:47
* daker has headache because of the packaging guide12:36
nigelbdon't worry, the worst is yet to come12:47
nigelbthe worst hits when you actually start packaging12:48
bobbo+1, your first complex merge is like a weeklong migraine12:48
nigelbmerges are like 100 on a pain scale of 1 to 1012:48
dakernigelb, bobbo speaking to me ?12:52
bobboyes :D12:52
nigelbdaker: both of us are :)12:52
* daker hit his head against the wall12:53
nigelbI dont think thats going to help12:53
* nigelb hands daker sledgehammer :D12:53
* bobbo shakes his head12:53
* bobbo hands chainsaw12:53
bobbomuch quicker12:53
nigelbmore efficient too ;)12:54
nigelbbobbo: I'll poke in 2 hours re:session.  At work now.  We can plan it out once I get home :)12:56
nigelbI think we both can keep alternating to make things interesting instead of one of us drone on and on :)12:56
bobbosounds great12:56
nigelb\o/12:57
* daker is becoming crazy13:11
nigelbyou're on the right track then :)13:12
nigelbdaker: take it easy though.  packging is hard and frustrating.  needs a bit of effort.13:12
dakerOMG! headache13:12
nigelbs/effort/patience13:13
dakernigelb, i am sure of the that13:15
nigelb:)13:16
dakerbrb13:16
nigelbdaker: when is your membership meeting?13:17
nigelbie. which board?13:17
dakernigelb, i am just preparing myself13:32
dakeras bobbo said i need to do more efforts13:32
nigelb:)13:33
nigelbdaker: if at all you go, which board?13:33
dakercan you explain ?13:33
nigelbthere are 3 boards right.  which board will you be going? or will you go to dmb directly?13:34
nigelbboard = americas board, emea (europe and africa), or asia and oceana13:34
dakeremea13:35
dakeri am from AFRICA13:36
nigelbok, so that means I'll be able to come in person and cheer for you :)13:36
dakernigelb, thanks you13:37
daker:)13:37
nigelbdo poke me when you're planning to apply13:37
dakersure13:38
dakeri'll poke all the channel \o/13:38
dakerbobbo, The session will focus on ?13:43
nigelbgetting more people to participate in patch review13:43
bobbodaker, patch review process13:43
bobboheh, ninja'd13:43
dakerwant i can say is that everyone should blog about the activity of the team13:45
nigelbwe do weekly reports13:46
dakeralso should target the social networks13:46
dakerlike creating & group or something like that13:46
dakerto attract more people13:46
dakeror twitter account13:47
dakernigelb, do you think weekly reports are enough ?13:47
dakerthe goal is to attend the 100%13:48
dakerin your place i'll do a daily reports13:48
dakernigelb, what do you think ?13:50
dakernigelb, what do you think ?14:08
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nigelbdaker: well, nothing much to do on daily reports14:12
nigelbprogress is 014:12
nigelbmy laptop b0rked14:12
daker:s14:13
bobbonigelb, ping15:53
dholbachbobbo: ready for UDW later on?16:12
nigelbbobbo: pong16:15
bobbonigelb, dholbach hey :)16:16
dholbach:-D16:16
nigelbbobbo: 5 minutes, let me get my stuff in order16:17
nigelbbobbo: damn, looks like the notes I took at work didn't copy over16:21
bobbonigelb, fail :D16:22
bobbonigelb, I can't find my notes from last time16:22
nigelbvish: FYI.  Number of bugs did not increase != nonone reviewing16:35
nigelbit means we couldn't overtake the number of new patches16:35
vishnigelb: how many new patches were there?16:36
nigelbcheck mailing list16:37
nigelbbrian's emails16:37
vishnigelb: i know how the count works , and it is -1 ;)16:38
dholbachhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek Day 3 about to start in 19 minutes in #ubuntu-classroom16:41
nigelbvish: yes, so we couldn't coover up the number of bugs that came in16:44
nigelbI know more than 10 came in16:45
nigelbI'm subscribed to the list.  I get a mail for them16:45
vishnigelb: well then we are counting something wrong > http://daniel.holba.ch/blog/?p=72616:47
dholbachnigelb: but we don't subscribe the team to them yet or tag them automatically, do we?16:50
vishnigelb: anyways , the point is , we need to get more people reviewing patches16:50
vishdholbach: the script seems to be tagging "patch" and subscribing the team16:51
vishthere was a bug i noticed yday16:51
dholbachok16:51
nigelbvish: we'll talk after the sesion16:52
nigelbright now, I'm hurrying up to write the session16:52
dakerbobbo, 5min to start16:55
bobboin that case16:57
* bobbo closes Warcraft :D16:57
nigelbbobbo: as long as you dont close etherpad, no worries :p16:58
EzraRif a backports request has a patch attached is there something I can do to keep it off the radar of patch reviewers?16:59
EzraRi cant unsubscribe ubuntu review team but it doesnt need reviewed17:01
nigelbcan we talk about this after the UDW session?17:03
EzraRsure17:03
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macodid you all see pitti's email to -devel? if you've got an SRU-able patch, you should get it sponsored without first waiting for the SRU ACK17:30
m4n1shnigelb, you there? or still busy in classroom?19:04
nigelbm4n1sh: just got out of it.  Whats up?19:05
m4n1shnothing I followed up with the session19:05
m4n1shmissed most of it.. internet down..19:05
m4n1shnigelb, tethering the phone19:05
nigelbdont worry, irclogs.ubuntu.com is your friend :)19:05
m4n1shi was thinking of something19:05
m4n1shwhat all problems you people face19:06
m4n1shpatch reviewers?19:06
m4n1shi want to know what all problems you people face.19:06
nigelblack of time for the most part and lack of enough volunteers to make a dent19:06
m4n1shany roadblocks.. some technical thing which slow you people down19:06
nigelbvish: anything you wanna add?19:06
m4n1shtracking bugs for updates?19:06
m4n1shlike if the bug forwaded has changed?19:06
nigelbnot really, all the technical issues are sorted out19:07
m4n1shsomething like this?19:07
vishnigelb: hmm??19:07
m4n1shnigelb, i was thinking of making a small django app19:07
nigelbI generally subscribe to the bug, so I know if the upstream bug has changed19:07
m4n1shfor each patch reviwer19:07
m4n1shthey can have a list of patches they are working on19:07
nigelbinteresting, explain more?19:07
m4n1shfinding all bugs which have patch associated with it19:08
m4n1shusing the script you people use19:08
m4n1shmy plan is more of a dashboard19:08
m4n1shsort of thing19:08
m4n1shso that you people know everything in one glance19:08
nigelbbut how would you know which reviewer is working on which one?19:08
m4n1shthe reviwer has to add it himself19:08
m4n1shthe bug19:08
nigelbwell, :p19:09
nigelbwe're all lazy people :D19:09
m4n1shmeans in the django apps - lets name it Cleansweeper19:09
m4n1shjust give it the # of the bug19:09
m4n1shamnd it will all do it itself19:09
m4n1shi would use launchpadlib19:09
m4n1shjust a bug # is enough19:09
m4n1shmeans you login to cleansweeper using launchpad OAuth19:10
nigelbtell you want, I want daniel and jorge to make a call, can you mail jcastro, daniel holbach and me?19:10
nigelbI'll follow it up with them tomorrow19:10
m4n1shmeans?19:10
m4n1shdidnt get it19:10
vishm4n1sh: regarding the "problems we face" , it might mostly be if the patch is too old and needs work19:10
m4n1shvish, ah. another problem19:11
vishbut the original submitter does not show interest19:11
nigelbm4n1sh: just write me a mail with copy to jorge castro and daniel holbach19:11
m4n1shsee nigelb : problems like this19:11
nigelbm4n1sh: but those cannot be solved by an app19:11
m4n1shvish, original submitter not showing interest is something too complicated thing19:11
nigelbm4n1sh: I'll follow up wiht daniel and jorge tomorrow.  they're in session now.19:11
vishm4n1sh: yeah , other than that , not many problems ;)19:11
m4n1shnigelb, sure19:11
nigelbvish: we get lazy - main problem19:11
m4n1shnigelb, even me19:12
vishnot me ;p19:12
nigelblast week? :D19:12
m4n1shvish, I mean to say.. I know not many problems are there19:12
vishnigelb: that was a test ;)19:12
m4n1shvish, but the speed can be increased19:12
m4n1shwith more tools.. helpful ones19:12
vishm4n1sh: surely!19:12
m4n1shbugzilla was good, but launchpad is simply fantastic19:12
m4n1shwe coul have gone with bugzilla19:12
m4n1shnot problems19:12
m4n1shbut lp is something I admire as a platform even though it might be slow19:13
m4n1shvish, I want the cleansweep project to go ahead even more smoothly19:13
m4n1shvish, if I get this done.. I request you to design the UI19:14
vishm4n1sh: yeah , the problem as always , is there are very few people.. and we need to be in a lot of projects as well.. for instance , nigelb is also on the classroom work and i have to do papercuts work , so  there isnt enough time or people working :(19:14
m4n1shI suck at it19:14
vishm4n1sh: sure!19:14
m4n1shvish, I want to work on papercuts, I did a few. but too much of work even at workplace19:14
nigelbvish: agreed on that.  user days and udw recruiting wasn't easy19:15
m4n1shcrap. I should have voulenteered to take sessions during user days19:15
vishnigelb: no excuses! ;p19:15
m4n1shif they allowed me19:15
m4n1shanyway just FYI i have created something useful for people and community as a whole19:16
vishm4n1sh: anyone could have taken a class , just need to say you want to :)19:16
nigelbm4n1sh: there no problem in allowing, you just have to tell us you want to take it19:16
vish!19:16
vish:)19:16
m4n1shoh.. i missed it19:16
m4n1shmy bad19:16
nigelbm4n1sh: I hounded vish for hours, even got him cornered.  He escaped.19:16
nigelbSo, I got him for developer week :p19:17
m4n1shnigelb, i could have taken in user days19:17
m4n1shdev week is tough for me19:17
m4n1shas my net is down.. uncertainity19:17
nigelbnext cycle, I'll poke you about user days then19:17
m4n1shnigelb, sure19:17
vishm4n1sh: nevermind missing class , fix papercuts :)19:17
m4n1shBTW here is something I wanted to share19:17
m4n1shspent 1.5 hrs on each19:18
m4n1shhttp://ubuntutalk.tumblr.com/post/803190646/ubuntu-developer-week-getting-started-with-ubuntu-develo19:18
m4n1shhttp://ubuntutalk.tumblr.com/post/807050603/ubuntu-developer-week-getting-started-with-ubuntu-develo19:18
m4n1shpart I and part 2 of19:18
* nigelb kicks vish19:18
m4n1shdaniel's session19:18
m4n1shfirst session19:18
m4n1shhuman readable format of the sessions19:18
nigelbm4n1sh: yes, daniel pointed it out and that it was awesome19:18
m4n1shpart 2 was written after he must have shown you19:18
m4n1shvish, yeah., will fix papercuts19:19
vish\o/19:19
nigelbhttp://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/07/13/%23ubuntu-community-team.html#t13:5619:19
nigelbm4n1sh: ^19:19
m4n1shchecking19:19
m4n1shoverview of what it is about?19:19
m4n1shah19:20
m4n1shgot it19:20
nigelb:)19:20
m4n1shnigelb, point out the part 2 of it also to dholbach19:20
nigelbsure :)19:20
nigelbhe's busy in session now though19:21
m4n1shyeah19:21
m4n1shi see19:21
m4n1shhe and jcastro19:21
m4n1shnigelb, what abt 31st meet?19:21
m4n1shmg road?19:21
nigelbvish: FYI 33 patches added to list last week19:21
nigelbm4n1sh: yep, mg rd or richmond rd19:21
vishmeh19:22
nigelbI'm thinking of coffee day near baldwin girls19:22
m4n1shyou right now in bangalore or chennai?19:22
nigelbbangalore19:22
m4n1shnigelb, any place is fine19:22
m4n1shvish, you in chennai19:22
m4n1sh?19:22
vishyup19:22
nigelbmelted yet? :p19:22
m4n1shmeh. come down to bangalore on that weekend19:22
m4n1shNicke, LOL19:22
m4n1shnigelb, LOL19:22
m4n1shcrap. wrong handle :(19:23
nigelbheh19:23
m4n1shvish, come down to chennai for that weekend19:23
m4n1shnigelb, one more idea i have on cleansweeper19:23
vish:)19:23
m4n1shoverall changes too19:23
m4n1shpatches reviewed19:23
m4n1shthe changes19:23
m4n1sh+ or -19:24
nigelbwe have that19:24
m4n1shand all sort of stats19:24
m4n1shfrom where you get that19:24
m4n1sh?19:24
nigelbhttp://daniel.holba.ch/review/report19:24
m4n1shmanual?19:24
nigelbwe've written a script for it19:24
m4n1shi know it is thre19:24
nigelbupdates every sunday in time for uwn19:24
m4n1shdaniel blogs abt it19:24
nigelbIts all auto generated.  Daniel keeps querying LP every hour or so and gets the css file for meter and the other image updated19:26
nigelbtook a fair bit of time to write those scripts though19:26
m4n1shnigelb, back. Okay. I will see if some other stats can also be implemented19:44
m4n1shI know a lot of people on #launchpad-dev19:44
m4n1shlike Gary Poster and more19:44
m4n1shand William Grant19:45
m4n1shnigelb, what is jorge's email id?19:47
simarnigelb, Hello I'm India too currently under the mentorship of sense. I have been taking touchpad bugs. I think I can contribute to this team.19:49
m4n1shsimar, Hi20:06
m4n1shsimar, toughpad bugs?20:07
simarm4n1sh, ya20:12
m4n1shmeans the laptop touchpad20:12
simarm4n1sh, ya alsolutely :)20:12
m4n1shcool20:12
m4n1shwhich bugs you worked on?20:13
simarm4n1sh, Many bugs, if you are interested please search xserver-xorg-input-synaptics in launchpad bugs.20:19
simarm4n1sh, Do you work for #ubuntu-reviews20:20
jononigelb, http://www.jonobacon.org/2010/07/14/operation-cleansweep-we-need-you/23:50

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