[00:21] <bobbo> evening, anyone around?
[00:27] <daker> hi bobbo
[00:27] <bobbo> yo :D
[00:28] <daker> the team is still at 15%
[00:28] <bobbo> :(
[00:28] <bobbo> guys, I got you to like 10%
[00:28] <bobbo> :P
[00:29] <daker> Ubuntu needs you guys
[00:30]  * bobbo is sad
[00:30] <bobbo> I'm gonna be holdin g a patch review Ubuntu Week session tomorrow
[00:31] <bobbo> maybe if I blog about it on the planet?
[00:31] <bobbo> cas we really need more than 5% in like 2 months
[00:33] <daker> good idea
[00:34] <bobbo> Okies
[00:34] <bobbo> I may or may not have had a few beers tonight so a proff read would be rally awesome
[00:34] <bobbo> daker?
[00:36] <daker> beers no no
[00:38] <daker> bobbo, i need your support
[00:38] <bobbo> hehe, I'm giving it a go
[00:38] <bobbo> I'll pastebin a draft in about 5 minutes
[00:38] <daker> i want a testimonial
[00:39] <daker> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdnaneBelmadiaf
[00:39] <daker> can you ?
[00:43] <bobbo> draft: http://pastebin.com/f4VFgryw
[00:43] <bobbo> daker ^
[00:45] <daker> good
[00:47] <bobbo> should I go ahead and post it?
[00:49] <daker> it's oki for me
[00:50] <bobbo> okay posted
[00:50] <bobbo> any blatant spelling mistakes, give us a shout
[00:50] <bobbo> you want some testemonial?
[00:51] <daker> if you want yes
[00:51] <bobbo> what for?
[00:52] <daker> what do you mean ?
[00:53] <bobbo> are you apllying for anything?
[00:53] <bobbo> why do you want me to give you a testemonial?
[00:53] <daker> i want to apply for a membership
[00:53] <daker> ubuntu membership
[00:54] <bobbo> awesome
[00:54] <bobbo> if you can give me 3 links to bugs you have helped with, I can definitely write you one :)
[00:54] <daker> well not for now but very soon
[00:54] <daker> really :s
[00:55] <bobbo> PM me or send them to bobbo [at] ubuntu [dawt] com
[00:55] <bobbo> after that I'll definitely write you one, I remember you working hard when I was doing work experience
[00:56] <daker> oki i'll try
[00:56] <daker> thanks
[00:56] <bobbo> no problem :)
[00:56] <daker> one thing
[00:56] <bobbo> shoot
[00:57] <daker> 3 bugs related to ubuntu ?
[00:57] <bobbo> ideally
[00:58] <bobbo> just 3 bugs you've touched in operation cleansweep (assuming you're participating as you're sitting in the channel :P)
[00:58] <daker> oki i'll try
[00:59] <bobbo> I kow you've been working at this, I just kinda need proof before I write any testemonials or anything
[01:00] <bobbo> I'll be idling all tomorrow and running a UDW session at 16:00 UTC so I'll be around if you wanna ping me
[01:01] <daker> i'll assist to the session
[01:01] <bobbo> epic
[01:02] <daker> to the django session too
[01:02] <bobbo> nigelb & me ar co-hosting (apparently, I was emailed the other day,not heard from Nigel but assumign he's helping)
[01:02] <bobbo> any help is greatly appreciated
[01:02] <bobbo> I've not held a session in 2 months, I'm a little rusty
[01:05] <daker> how to know the list of bugs that still need patchs ?
[01:07] <bobbo> it's in the topic
[01:54] <daker> bobbo, it would be nice if you mentioned the uses of Lernid
[01:54] <daker> or linked the #ubuntu-classroom
[01:54] <daker> so it can opend the irc client
[01:57] <daker> irc://irc.freenode.org/#ubuntu-classroom
[01:57] <daker> and  irc://irc.freenode.org/#ubuntu-classroom-chat
[04:09] <nigelb> bobbo: I thought you were helping ;)
[04:18] <nigelb> bobbo: I have a preliminary script ready.  I'll put into and etherpad when I get the time today so you can go over it
[07:47] <dholbach> good morning
[09:34] <vish> bobbo: well , since your review spree no one has been reviewing :(   , nigelb's laptop got busted , then it looked like i was the only one doing reviews for a couple of weeks..
[09:34] <vish> to test my theory i did not touch even a single review bug
[09:34] <vish> ...and voila ! 0 reviewed last week ;p
[09:36] <dholbach> we should go and reach out some more again
[09:37] <dholbach> and make sure the next Hug Day is a Patch Review Day
[09:37] <dholbach> also let people know on the forums
[09:37] <dholbach> http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=44 and http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=385 particularly
[09:50] <vish> yeah
[09:57] <nigelb> vish: my laptop bust-ing situation is getting fixed about now
[09:58] <nigelb> dholbach: I am *NOT* a forums person.  I hate forums :/
[09:58] <dholbach> nigelb: man, it's about sending some kind of announce there
[09:59] <dholbach> nigelb: not about participating in all discussions there
[09:59] <nigelb> ahh, announce I can do
[09:59] <dholbach> (or moving all our discussions there)
[09:59] <nigelb> let me talk to people who are big on forums to talk about it
[10:00] <nigelb> I've seen maco guide people to us when they crib about "ubuntu sucks" ;)
[10:34] <yofel> nigelb: do we have a tag for ubuntu-only patches now? like for bug 557240
[10:34] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 557240 in ubufox (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 1 other project) "Disable "Report a Problem" menu item for the stable release (affects: 2) (heat: 47)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/557240
[10:42] <nigelb> no, suggested action, branch and request merge
[10:42] <nigelb> yofel: ^^
[10:43] <yofel> and what about the tag? as that's how we manager our todo list currently...
[10:43] <yofel> *manage
[10:44] <nigelb> unsubscribe team
[10:44] <yofel> ok
[10:44] <nigelb> I spoke to brian some time back and that was his suggestion
[10:44] <nigelb> It seemed good to me :)
[10:44] <nigelb> dholbach: did you see bdrung's mail? anything you might have added/removed to my reply?
[10:44] <yofel> maybe add that to the workflow ;)
[10:45] <nigelb> yofel: yes, I was waiting to document such a situation.  can you finish and poke me with bug number?
[10:45] <nigelb> I'll get it added before my session
[10:45] <dholbach> nigelb: I'm a bit busy right now - hope to get to it later on
[10:45] <nigelb> dholbach: sure, no problem :)
[10:45] <yofel> nigelb: will do, might take a while though
[10:46] <nigelb> yofel: you can take until first session of UDW ;)
[10:47] <yofel> heh, np
[12:36]  * daker has headache because of the packaging guide
[12:47] <nigelb> don't worry, the worst is yet to come
[12:48] <nigelb> the worst hits when you actually start packaging
[12:48] <bobbo> +1, your first complex merge is like a weeklong migraine
[12:48] <nigelb> merges are like 100 on a pain scale of 1 to 10
[12:52] <daker> nigelb, bobbo speaking to me ?
[12:52] <bobbo> yes :D
[12:52] <nigelb> daker: both of us are :)
[12:53]  * daker hit his head against the wall
[12:53] <nigelb> I dont think thats going to help
[12:53]  * nigelb hands daker sledgehammer :D
[12:53]  * bobbo shakes his head
[12:53]  * bobbo hands chainsaw
[12:53] <bobbo> much quicker
[12:54] <nigelb> more efficient too ;)
[12:56] <nigelb> bobbo: I'll poke in 2 hours re:session.  At work now.  We can plan it out once I get home :)
[12:56] <nigelb> I think we both can keep alternating to make things interesting instead of one of us drone on and on :)
[12:56] <bobbo> sounds great
[12:57] <nigelb> \o/
[13:11]  * daker is becoming crazy
[13:12] <nigelb> you're on the right track then :)
[13:12] <nigelb> daker: take it easy though.  packging is hard and frustrating.  needs a bit of effort.
[13:12] <daker> OMG! headache
[13:13] <nigelb> s/effort/patience
[13:15] <daker> nigelb, i am sure of the that
[13:16] <nigelb> :)
[13:16] <daker> brb
[13:17] <nigelb> daker: when is your membership meeting?
[13:17] <nigelb> ie. which board?
[13:32] <daker> nigelb, i am just preparing myself
[13:32] <daker> as bobbo said i need to do more efforts
[13:33] <nigelb> :)
[13:33] <nigelb> daker: if at all you go, which board?
[13:33] <daker> can you explain ?
[13:34] <nigelb> there are 3 boards right.  which board will you be going? or will you go to dmb directly?
[13:34] <nigelb> board = americas board, emea (europe and africa), or asia and oceana
[13:35] <daker> emea
[13:36] <daker> i am from AFRICA
[13:36] <nigelb> ok, so that means I'll be able to come in person and cheer for you :)
[13:37] <daker> nigelb, thanks you
[13:37] <daker> :)
[13:37] <nigelb> do poke me when you're planning to apply
[13:38] <daker> sure
[13:38] <daker> i'll poke all the channel \o/
[13:43] <daker> bobbo, The session will focus on ?
[13:43] <nigelb> getting more people to participate in patch review
[13:43] <bobbo> daker, patch review process
[13:43] <bobbo> heh, ninja'd
[13:45] <daker> want i can say is that everyone should blog about the activity of the team
[13:46] <nigelb> we do weekly reports
[13:46] <daker> also should target the social networks
[13:46] <daker> like creating & group or something like that
[13:46] <daker> to attract more people
[13:47] <daker> or twitter account
[13:47] <daker> nigelb, do you think weekly reports are enough ?
[13:48] <daker> the goal is to attend the 100%
[13:48] <daker> in your place i'll do a daily reports
[13:50] <daker> nigelb, what do you think ?
[14:08] <daker> nigelb, what do you think ?
[14:12] <nigelb> daker: well, nothing much to do on daily reports
[14:12] <nigelb> progress is 0
[14:12] <nigelb> my laptop b0rked
[14:13] <daker> :s
[15:53] <bobbo> nigelb, ping
[16:12] <dholbach> bobbo: ready for UDW later on?
[16:15] <nigelb> bobbo: pong
[16:16] <bobbo> nigelb, dholbach hey :)
[16:16] <dholbach> :-D
[16:17] <nigelb> bobbo: 5 minutes, let me get my stuff in order
[16:21] <nigelb> bobbo: damn, looks like the notes I took at work didn't copy over
[16:22] <bobbo> nigelb, fail :D
[16:22] <bobbo> nigelb, I can't find my notes from last time
[16:35] <nigelb> vish: FYI.  Number of bugs did not increase != nonone reviewing
[16:35] <nigelb> it means we couldn't overtake the number of new patches
[16:36] <vish> nigelb: how many new patches were there?
[16:37] <nigelb> check mailing list
[16:37] <nigelb> brian's emails
[16:38] <vish> nigelb: i know how the count works , and it is -1 ;)
[16:41] <dholbach> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek Day 3 about to start in 19 minutes in #ubuntu-classroom
[16:44] <nigelb> vish: yes, so we couldn't coover up the number of bugs that came in
[16:45] <nigelb> I know more than 10 came in
[16:45] <nigelb> I'm subscribed to the list.  I get a mail for them
[16:47] <vish> nigelb: well then we are counting something wrong > http://daniel.holba.ch/blog/?p=726
[16:50] <dholbach> nigelb: but we don't subscribe the team to them yet or tag them automatically, do we?
[16:50] <vish> nigelb: anyways , the point is , we need to get more people reviewing patches
[16:51] <vish> dholbach: the script seems to be tagging "patch" and subscribing the team
[16:51] <vish> there was a bug i noticed yday
[16:51] <dholbach> ok
[16:52] <nigelb> vish: we'll talk after the sesion
[16:52] <nigelb> right now, I'm hurrying up to write the session
[16:55] <daker> bobbo, 5min to start
[16:57] <bobbo> in that case
[16:57]  * bobbo closes Warcraft :D
[16:58] <nigelb> bobbo: as long as you dont close etherpad, no worries :p
[16:59] <EzraR> if a backports request has a patch attached is there something I can do to keep it off the radar of patch reviewers?
[17:01] <EzraR> i cant unsubscribe ubuntu review team but it doesnt need reviewed
[17:03] <nigelb> can we talk about this after the UDW session?
[17:03] <EzraR> sure
[17:30] <maco> did you all see pitti's email to -devel? if you've got an SRU-able patch, you should get it sponsored without first waiting for the SRU ACK
[19:04] <m4n1sh> nigelb, you there? or still busy in classroom?
[19:05] <nigelb> m4n1sh: just got out of it.  Whats up?
[19:05] <m4n1sh> nothing I followed up with the session
[19:05] <m4n1sh> missed most of it.. internet down..
[19:05] <m4n1sh> nigelb, tethering the phone
[19:05] <nigelb> dont worry, irclogs.ubuntu.com is your friend :)
[19:05] <m4n1sh> i was thinking of something
[19:06] <m4n1sh> what all problems you people face
[19:06] <m4n1sh> patch reviewers?
[19:06] <m4n1sh> i want to know what all problems you people face.
[19:06] <nigelb> lack of time for the most part and lack of enough volunteers to make a dent
[19:06] <m4n1sh> any roadblocks.. some technical thing which slow you people down
[19:06] <nigelb> vish: anything you wanna add?
[19:06] <m4n1sh> tracking bugs for updates?
[19:06] <m4n1sh> like if the bug forwaded has changed?
[19:07] <nigelb> not really, all the technical issues are sorted out
[19:07] <m4n1sh> something like this?
[19:07] <vish> nigelb: hmm??
[19:07] <m4n1sh> nigelb, i was thinking of making a small django app
[19:07] <nigelb> I generally subscribe to the bug, so I know if the upstream bug has changed
[19:07] <m4n1sh> for each patch reviwer
[19:07] <m4n1sh> they can have a list of patches they are working on
[19:07] <nigelb> interesting, explain more?
[19:08] <m4n1sh> finding all bugs which have patch associated with it
[19:08] <m4n1sh> using the script you people use
[19:08] <m4n1sh> my plan is more of a dashboard
[19:08] <m4n1sh> sort of thing
[19:08] <m4n1sh> so that you people know everything in one glance
[19:08] <nigelb> but how would you know which reviewer is working on which one?
[19:08] <m4n1sh> the reviwer has to add it himself
[19:08] <m4n1sh> the bug
[19:09] <nigelb> well, :p
[19:09] <nigelb> we're all lazy people :D
[19:09] <m4n1sh> means in the django apps - lets name it Cleansweeper
[19:09] <m4n1sh> just give it the # of the bug
[19:09] <m4n1sh> amnd it will all do it itself
[19:09] <m4n1sh> i would use launchpadlib
[19:09] <m4n1sh> just a bug # is enough
[19:10] <m4n1sh> means you login to cleansweeper using launchpad OAuth
[19:10] <nigelb> tell you want, I want daniel and jorge to make a call, can you mail jcastro, daniel holbach and me?
[19:10] <nigelb> I'll follow it up with them tomorrow
[19:10] <m4n1sh> means?
[19:10] <m4n1sh> didnt get it
[19:10] <vish> m4n1sh: regarding the "problems we face" , it might mostly be if the patch is too old and needs work
[19:11] <m4n1sh> vish, ah. another problem
[19:11] <vish> but the original submitter does not show interest
[19:11] <nigelb> m4n1sh: just write me a mail with copy to jorge castro and daniel holbach
[19:11] <m4n1sh> see nigelb : problems like this
[19:11] <nigelb> m4n1sh: but those cannot be solved by an app
[19:11] <m4n1sh> vish, original submitter not showing interest is something too complicated thing
[19:11] <nigelb> m4n1sh: I'll follow up wiht daniel and jorge tomorrow.  they're in session now.
[19:11] <vish> m4n1sh: yeah , other than that , not many problems ;)
[19:11] <m4n1sh> nigelb, sure
[19:11] <nigelb> vish: we get lazy - main problem
[19:12] <m4n1sh> nigelb, even me
[19:12] <vish> not me ;p
[19:12] <nigelb> last week? :D
[19:12] <m4n1sh> vish, I mean to say.. I know not many problems are there
[19:12] <vish> nigelb: that was a test ;)
[19:12] <m4n1sh> vish, but the speed can be increased
[19:12] <m4n1sh> with more tools.. helpful ones
[19:12] <vish> m4n1sh: surely!
[19:12] <m4n1sh> bugzilla was good, but launchpad is simply fantastic
[19:12] <m4n1sh> we coul have gone with bugzilla
[19:12] <m4n1sh> not problems
[19:13] <m4n1sh> but lp is something I admire as a platform even though it might be slow
[19:13] <m4n1sh> vish, I want the cleansweep project to go ahead even more smoothly
[19:14] <m4n1sh> vish, if I get this done.. I request you to design the UI
[19:14] <vish> m4n1sh: yeah , the problem as always , is there are very few people.. and we need to be in a lot of projects as well.. for instance , nigelb is also on the classroom work and i have to do papercuts work , so  there isnt enough time or people working :(
[19:14] <m4n1sh> I suck at it
[19:14] <vish> m4n1sh: sure!
[19:14] <m4n1sh> vish, I want to work on papercuts, I did a few. but too much of work even at workplace
[19:15] <nigelb> vish: agreed on that.  user days and udw recruiting wasn't easy
[19:15] <m4n1sh> crap. I should have voulenteered to take sessions during user days
[19:15] <vish> nigelb: no excuses! ;p
[19:15] <m4n1sh> if they allowed me
[19:16] <m4n1sh> anyway just FYI i have created something useful for people and community as a whole
[19:16] <vish> m4n1sh: anyone could have taken a class , just need to say you want to :)
[19:16] <nigelb> m4n1sh: there no problem in allowing, you just have to tell us you want to take it
[19:16] <vish> !
[19:16] <vish> :)
[19:16] <m4n1sh> oh.. i missed it
[19:16] <m4n1sh> my bad
[19:16] <nigelb> m4n1sh: I hounded vish for hours, even got him cornered.  He escaped.
[19:17] <nigelb> So, I got him for developer week :p
[19:17] <m4n1sh> nigelb, i could have taken in user days
[19:17] <m4n1sh> dev week is tough for me
[19:17] <m4n1sh> as my net is down.. uncertainity
[19:17] <nigelb> next cycle, I'll poke you about user days then
[19:17] <m4n1sh> nigelb, sure
[19:17] <vish> m4n1sh: nevermind missing class , fix papercuts :)
[19:17] <m4n1sh> BTW here is something I wanted to share
[19:18] <m4n1sh> spent 1.5 hrs on each
[19:18] <m4n1sh> http://ubuntutalk.tumblr.com/post/803190646/ubuntu-developer-week-getting-started-with-ubuntu-develo
[19:18] <m4n1sh> http://ubuntutalk.tumblr.com/post/807050603/ubuntu-developer-week-getting-started-with-ubuntu-develo
[19:18] <m4n1sh> part I and part 2 of
[19:18]  * nigelb kicks vish
[19:18] <m4n1sh> daniel's session
[19:18] <m4n1sh> first session
[19:18] <m4n1sh> human readable format of the sessions
[19:18] <nigelb> m4n1sh: yes, daniel pointed it out and that it was awesome
[19:18] <m4n1sh> part 2 was written after he must have shown you
[19:19] <m4n1sh> vish, yeah., will fix papercuts
[19:19] <vish> \o/
[19:19] <nigelb> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/07/13/%23ubuntu-community-team.html#t13:56
[19:19] <nigelb> m4n1sh: ^
[19:19] <m4n1sh> checking
[19:19] <m4n1sh> overview of what it is about?
[19:20] <m4n1sh> ah
[19:20] <m4n1sh> got it
[19:20] <nigelb> :)
[19:20] <m4n1sh> nigelb, point out the part 2 of it also to dholbach
[19:20] <nigelb> sure :)
[19:21] <nigelb> he's busy in session now though
[19:21] <m4n1sh> yeah
[19:21] <m4n1sh> i see
[19:21] <m4n1sh> he and jcastro
[19:21] <m4n1sh> nigelb, what abt 31st meet?
[19:21] <m4n1sh> mg road?
[19:21] <nigelb> vish: FYI 33 patches added to list last week
[19:21] <nigelb> m4n1sh: yep, mg rd or richmond rd
[19:22] <vish> meh
[19:22] <nigelb> I'm thinking of coffee day near baldwin girls
[19:22] <m4n1sh> you right now in bangalore or chennai?
[19:22] <nigelb> bangalore
[19:22] <m4n1sh> nigelb, any place is fine
[19:22] <m4n1sh> vish, you in chennai
[19:22] <m4n1sh> ?
[19:22] <vish> yup
[19:22] <nigelb> melted yet? :p
[19:22] <m4n1sh> meh. come down to bangalore on that weekend
[19:22] <m4n1sh> Nicke, LOL
[19:22] <m4n1sh> nigelb, LOL
[19:23] <m4n1sh> crap. wrong handle :(
[19:23] <nigelb> heh
[19:23] <m4n1sh> vish, come down to chennai for that weekend
[19:23] <m4n1sh> nigelb, one more idea i have on cleansweeper
[19:23] <vish> :)
[19:23] <m4n1sh> overall changes too
[19:23] <m4n1sh> patches reviewed
[19:23] <m4n1sh> the changes
[19:24] <m4n1sh> + or -
[19:24] <nigelb> we have that
[19:24] <m4n1sh> and all sort of stats
[19:24] <m4n1sh> from where you get that
[19:24] <m4n1sh> ?
[19:24] <nigelb> http://daniel.holba.ch/review/report
[19:24] <m4n1sh> manual?
[19:24] <nigelb> we've written a script for it
[19:24] <m4n1sh> i know it is thre
[19:24] <nigelb> updates every sunday in time for uwn
[19:24] <m4n1sh> daniel blogs abt it
[19:26] <nigelb> Its all auto generated.  Daniel keeps querying LP every hour or so and gets the css file for meter and the other image updated
[19:26] <nigelb> took a fair bit of time to write those scripts though
[19:44] <m4n1sh> nigelb, back. Okay. I will see if some other stats can also be implemented
[19:44] <m4n1sh> I know a lot of people on #launchpad-dev
[19:44] <m4n1sh> like Gary Poster and more
[19:45] <m4n1sh> and William Grant
[19:47] <m4n1sh> nigelb, what is jorge's email id?
[19:49] <simar> nigelb, Hello I'm India too currently under the mentorship of sense. I have been taking touchpad bugs. I think I can contribute to this team.
[20:06] <m4n1sh> simar, Hi
[20:07] <m4n1sh> simar, toughpad bugs?
[20:12] <simar> m4n1sh, ya
[20:12] <m4n1sh> means the laptop touchpad
[20:12] <simar> m4n1sh, ya alsolutely :)
[20:12] <m4n1sh> cool
[20:13] <m4n1sh> which bugs you worked on?
[20:19] <simar> m4n1sh, Many bugs, if you are interested please search xserver-xorg-input-synaptics in launchpad bugs.
[20:20] <simar> m4n1sh, Do you work for #ubuntu-reviews
[23:50] <jono> nigelb, http://www.jonobacon.org/2010/07/14/operation-cleansweep-we-need-you/