[00:32] <CppIsWeird> how do i install a dom0 kernel?
[00:33] <jpds> Xen isn't supported on Ubuntu.
[00:34] <CppIsWeird> ok. well, i want a dom0 kernel on a ubuntu-server machine. how do i accomplish this?
[01:12] <b14ck> Hey all. I've got a ubuntu-server 8.04 box here. I'm trying to upgrade to 10.04. Is there an easy way to do this? I've already done: `aptitude update; aptitude safe-upgrade; aptitude dist-upgrade;`
[01:12] <b14ck> But now it is saying there are no new updates available.
[01:12] <b14ck> I really need to upgrade because I need access to python 2.6.x, whereas the current version I have is 2.5.x
[01:12] <b14ck> Any help would be appreciated :)
[01:14] <b14ck> actually, i think i may have figured it out
[02:11] <qman__> b14ck, dist-upgrade is not a release upgrade, it simply installs all the updates even if it has to add new packages
[02:11] <qman__> if you want to upgrade to lucid, you need to run `sudo do-release-upgrade`
[02:25] <Carleas> Is there a way to test key authentication before disabling password login?
[02:25] <Carleas> I want to lock down my server so it only accepts ssh logins from keys, but I don't want to lock myself out if I've set things up incorrectly.
[02:28] <pmatulis> Carleas: of course, just log in.  key auth. occurs before passwd auth
[02:28] <CppIsWeird> how do you execute two commands consecutively in one line on bash?
[02:29] <pmatulis> Carleas: but if you're worried, just keep another session open
[02:29] <pmatulis> CppIsWeird: separate them with a semicolon
[02:29] <qman__> if the second command depends upon the first, use &&
[02:30] <CppIsWeird> pmatulis, perfect, thanks. :-)
[02:30] <Carleas> Thanks, pmatulis. I feel a little silly.
[02:31] <Carleas> Is using key authentication sufficient protection?  I've seen suggestions to change the port to something other than 22, is that necessary in addition?
[02:32] <qman__> changing your port will only reduce your exposure, at the cost of the annoyance of having to specify the port every time you connect
[02:32] <qman__> I wouldn't bother with that
[02:32] <CppIsWeird> i seem to be getting a strange scrolling sideways output when i watch tail /alogfile
[02:53] <pmatulis> Carleas: you can do that to get off the radar of 95% of the simple scripts people use for dictionary attacks
[02:54] <pmatulis> Carleas: those kind of attacks won't work if you're using key auth. but your logs won't fill up needlessly
[02:54] <pmatulis> Carleas: also, your client config can be altered to use the non-standard port so it's not an annoyance
[02:56] <pmatulis> Carleas: specifying protocol 2 is also highly recommended but i believe that is the default these days (used to accept both 1 and 2)
[02:56] <CppIsWeird> im trying to use the 'watch' command with a file that displays improperly with its non printing characters removed. in the manual watch says use cat -v in the commands pipeline. i've tried this every way i know how and either it still displays strange or it gets hung up.
[03:51] <jessezylstra> Hello. I run a server that had a problem after the upgrade to 10.04. I have no desktop enviroment, I am running Ubuntu Server, and when I go to the server everything is duplicated three times on the screen, tiny, blurry, and stretched-looking because, for some reason, the resolution changed. My monitor only supports 640xWhateveritis, and it is running at something higher. How do I fix this?
[04:33] <SpamapS> jessezylstra: you may need to add a boot argument to reduce the resolution
[04:34] <SpamapS> jessezylstra: try adding 'vga=785', do you know how to edit your grub command line?
[04:43] <Geekman> Hey, I found a command a while back (few months I think) which recursively listed the permissions of all files and folders in a directory, which I could then direct to a file.  Then I could use a similar command to take that file and use it to restore the permissions.  I completely forget what commands they were, but I think I needed to install an additional package.  Can anyone think of what it might be that I'm thinking of?
[04:49] <ccheney> kirkland, how do i determine the set of packages that uec normally installs to have pxe install as well?
[04:49] <ccheney> kirkland, i set it to 'minimal' but that seems obviously wrong
[04:50] <ccheney> kirkland, ah i see its in tasksel, i suppose i can select multiple of those
[04:50] <ccheney> hrmm
[04:50]  * ccheney thinks the uec.py should be doing that already
[04:51] <ccheney> eucalyptus-udeb eucalyptus/install-mode multiselect cloud, walrus, cluster, storage  should do that i think
[04:52] <ccheney> maybe i need to trigger  eucalyptus-udeb to be installed better than it is currently
[04:53] <ccheney> seems to only be setting it up if you have localdeb set, which seems incorrect
[04:53]  * ccheney wonders what exactly localdeb means
[05:08] <jessezylstra> SpamapS: I hope you are still here. No, I do not know how to edit my grub command line
[05:08] <jessezylstra> SpamapS: is it possible to do so through SSH?
[05:12] <twb> jessezylstra: only if the machine is already booted and runs an ssh server
[05:22] <jessezylstra> twb: that is the case
[05:22] <jessezylstra> sorry for my delays, I am not seeing the window flash in the taskbar
[05:22] <twb> jessezylstra: grub2 or legacy?
[05:23] <jessezylstra> twb: I honestly do not know.
[05:25] <twb> Find out
[05:26] <jessezylstra> twb: how do I do that?
[05:26] <twb> Do you have an /etc/default/grub*?
[05:26] <jessezylstra> Negative.
[05:28] <jessezylstra> twb: and just to be sure, I double checked!
[05:28] <twb> Do you have /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[05:28] <jessezylstra> twb: Yes.
[05:29] <twb> Edit that
[05:29] <twb> There'll be a #kopt line (i.e. commented out).  Edit it, then run "update-grub" to make it take effect in the uncommented portions.
[05:30] <jessezylstra> Uncomment # kopt=root=/dev/mapper/ubuntu-root ro
[05:31] <twb> No.
[05:45] <menthurae> hello there :) i'm looking for some kind soul to please help me try to get my RAID5 array back up and running via mdadm
[05:46] <menthurae> i've exhausted my fairly limited knowledge and from all the information i can gather i can't figure out why it isn't rebuilding ^_^
[05:53] <twb> menthurae: what are the symptoms?
[08:00] <electrofreak> I have / on a RAID1... and it happens to be resyncing right now... will the boot process wait for that to finish before booting?
[08:00] <electrofreak> otherwise... I dunno what is wrong with my server
[08:00] <electrofreak> RAID1 is md-raid
[08:01] <qman__> no, syncing is an operation that can be done post-boot
[08:01] <twb> md array resyncing is done in a background kernel thread.
[08:01] <electrofreak> that's what I thought
[08:02] <twb> If you reboot, it'll start again from scratch unless you have those bitmap thingies
[08:02] <electrofreak> oh hi twb
[08:02] <electrofreak> bitmap thingies?
[08:02] <twb> Some optional md thing that allows it to remember what bits are synced
[08:03] <electrofreak> but it shouldn't hold up the boot process?
[08:03] <twb> I don't know much about it, I just heard it mentioned in a LUG
[08:03] <qman__> no, it should not affect the boot process
[08:03] <twb> electrofreak: it won't hold the boot process; it might make it SLIGHTLY slower
[08:03] <qman__> except for maybe slightly reduced disk performance
[08:03] <electrofreak> then.... I need to figure out why my server wont boot
[08:04] <electrofreak> I let it go for like 10 minutes....
[08:04] <electrofreak> finally hit ctrl-alt-del and it shut some crap down, and rebooted....
[08:04] <qman__> that's not very long
[08:04] <qman__> longer than it should be taking, but still not very long
[08:04] <qman__> it might be fscking a big partition
[08:05] <electrofreak> same thing... it's literally just sitting here
[08:05] <electrofreak> monitor has nothing interesting on it.... some ureadahead-other error... which I googled and is apparently be9
[08:06] <electrofreak> I went in with a livecd... saw that my array was rsyncing...
[08:06] <electrofreak> and was able to mount it and poke around.... but none of the logs are showing anything from the boot process
[08:07] <electrofreak> so now, I'm sitting here waiting for it to boot again
[08:07] <qman__> did you press escape?
[08:07] <electrofreak> qman__: just did....
[08:07] <electrofreak> intersting..... now it's booting
[08:07] <qman__> that's a new "feature"
[08:07] <electrofreak> what did I press escape to?
[08:07] <electrofreak> lol
[08:07] <qman__> unhides the important boot information
[08:08] <electrofreak> I have to be honest.... usually my server is headless.... i'd rather not have to deal with such "features"
[08:08] <qman__> I agree wholeheartedly
[08:08] <electrofreak> is it likely stopping for that ureadahead message?
[08:09] <electrofreak> because, it seems like I should get to the bottom of that if that's the case.
[08:09] <qman__> well, I'd have to see the whole thing to know
[08:10] <electrofreak> there was also a message about md0 being clean
[08:10] <electrofreak> and a fsck version print above that
[08:10] <electrofreak> that's it.
[08:10] <qman__> what size are your partitions
[08:11] <electrofreak> eh, like ~150GB
[08:11] <electrofreak> two 160GB drives...
[08:11] <qman__> probably fscking then
[08:11] <electrofreak> swap array and / array
[08:11] <qman__> give it more time
[08:11] <electrofreak> now this splash screen is going forever.
[08:11] <electrofreak> qman__: it said it was clean?
[08:12] <electrofreak> and now I see no disk IO
[08:12] <qman__> ok, then that's not it
[08:12] <qman__> you would see disk I/O
[08:12] <qman__> but you probably wouldn't see the fsck progress
[08:12] <qman__> another side effect of the new "feature"
[08:12] <electrofreak> yea, I did until I presume it finished resyncing
[08:14] <electrofreak> gosh, there is no output at all.... this splashscreen sucks
[08:14] <qman__> it has certainly caused me plenty of headaches
[08:15] <qman__> my file server has a > 5TB array on it
[08:15] <qman__> I can no longer monitor fsck progress on boot
[08:15] <electrofreak> ...I might know the problem... altho really it shouldn't hold up the boot process....
[08:15] <qman__> I just have to wait 4 hours to see if it finishes or crashed
[08:15] <electrofreak> I turned off my large ass RAID5 to help troubleshoot this crap...
[08:15] <electrofreak> and that mounts...
[08:15] <qman__> turned off?
[08:15] <electrofreak> I should make it noauto
[08:16] <electrofreak> (pulled the drives)
[08:16] <qman__> that would do it
[08:16] <qman__> especially if it mounts to an important location
[08:16] <electrofreak> maybe.... I just restarted and I'm waiting again...
[08:17] <electrofreak> darn it....
[08:18] <electrofreak> theres no disk IO now.... with the RAID5 on...
[08:19] <electrofreak> this is really frustrating that there is no output...
[08:23] <electrofreak> how do I grab the grub menu?
[08:24] <electrofreak> there is no message like there used to be
[08:35] <qman__> I think you have to press shift or something
[08:35] <qman__> I don't know, I don't like grub2 at all either
[08:49] <Jordan_U> electrofreak: Hold shift during boot to see the grub menu (Ubuntu hides it by default).
[08:52] <electrofreak> qman__: figured out the problem... had yet another thing in fstab that was mounting that really shouldn't. I've learned my lesson... it wont happen again :-(
[08:52] <electrofreak> qman__: if you're still up (almost 4am here)... good night.
[08:58] <qman__> same time here, glad you got it sorted
[11:08] <cemc> have a hardy server install. how do I upgrade directly to lucid from command line? just a test upgrade
[11:08] <jpds> sudo do-release-upgrade
[11:09] <Jordan_U> cemc: By "test upgrade" are you referring to the --sandbox mode of do-release-upgrade?
[11:09] <tydeas> Hello i got (WW) Open ACPI failed (/var/run/acpid.socket) (Connection refused) on the Xorg log.
[11:09] <tydeas> What can i do for this .. What it is ?
[11:10] <cemc> Jordan_U: no, I'm in a chroot'ed hardy, and I'm upgrading to see what happens, it's just a discardable test ;)
[11:10] <jpds> tydeas: You can ignore that warning.
[11:10] <Jordan_U> !upgrade | cemc
[11:11] <tydeas> jpds: xorg does not start at all
[11:11] <tydeas> i mean gdm
[11:11] <Jordan_U> cemc: I'm not sure if upgrading in a chroot will work though because of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upstart/+bug/430224
[11:11] <cemc> Jordan_U: I see
[11:12] <jpds> tydeas: bug #496859 is where I remember being said that that warning should be ignored
[11:17] <tydeas> jpds: thanks will try fedora patch
[11:18] <tydeas> but how can i really use this patch to fix my issue?
[11:28] <tydeas> nice
[11:36] <tydeas> how can i really fix this issue?
[11:36] <tydeas> jpds: ?
[11:36] <jpds> I don't know, I don't think that's what's causing X not to start though.
[11:37] <tydeas> how can i check why xorg does not start?
[11:38] <tydeas> other ideas?
[11:38] <jpds> Is this a headless system?
[11:39] <tydeas> no i have screen
[11:39] <tydeas> if this is what oyu mena
[11:39] <tydeas> *you mean
[11:41] <tydeas> jpds: ?
[11:41] <tydeas> what do you mean with `headless` ?
[12:24] <peugi> hi, can somebody help me with ip address alias problems?
[12:24] <peugi> it's driving me crazy ...
[12:24] <peugi> I have vmware host running centos where the ip alias works fine, but in the ubuntu guest I can't get it to work
[12:25] <peugi> I tried some wireshark sniffing and the packets are getting through, but the ubuntu vm is not responding to them
[12:43] <joschi> peugi: have you configured the interface in your ubunt uvm?
[12:43] <joschi> *ubuntu vm
[12:45] <peugi>  yes I have
[12:45] <peugi> do you want to see my interfaces and routes?
[12:50] <joschi> peugi: and the interface has been brought up? `ifconfig $IFACE up` or `ip link set $IFACE up`
[12:51] <peugi> yes
[12:51] <peugi> actually I just got a message from the ISP: Sorry fro the delay, there is an issue with binding secondary VLAN ranges to a virtual server that only a few seasoned technicians are familiar with. The short answer is that from our default configuration the secondary subnets can only be used as additional IP addresses on 2nd generation virtual servers, but they can not be used as primary IP addresses.
[12:52] <peugi> i'm running vmware 1
[12:52] <peugi> http://sites.google.com/site/zenarstudio/home/kb/vmware-esxi-vlan-integration
[12:58] <peugi> joshi: can you make sense of it?
[13:06] <joschi> peugi: sorry, I'm no networking expert.
[13:10] <peugi> thanks for your help either way :)
[13:10] <peugi> I think I'm going to upgrade to ESXi from Server 1.x
[14:20] <ccheney> hallyn, scrum?
[14:20] <andreserl> jjohansen-afk, by any chance do you know where can I find a cn_idx for a kernel module?
[14:24] <simulacrum> Why on the download page for Ubuntu Server http://www.ubuntu.com/server/get-ubuntu/download there is no link to a .torrent alternative way of downloading; this is bad for data integrity because downloading a 700 MB .iso file will in some cases determine data corruption, and Step 2 should also mention how to verify the iso with md5sum hash or sha256
[14:32] <sommer> morning all
[14:41] <jmitchell> how can I reseal a VM. I would like to create VM templates of my newly installed lucid OS.
[14:43] <hallyn> ccheney: hm, should i be able to debootstrap a lucid image from a debian install?  (then install kernel and update-grub)?  Shoudl work just fine right?  I've never done it to make a full bootable system.
[14:44] <ccheney> uh, if you have the ubuntu version of debootstrap probably
[14:44] <ccheney> i don't know if the debian version knows about ubuntu releases
[14:45] <ccheney> it should be easy to see though when you look at the files in the debootstrap package
[14:45] <hallyn> well seems worth a shot to save my bandwidth
[14:45]  * hallyn tries it out
[14:50] <bogeyd6--> Is it possible to have two network interfaces on a box with the same subnet, different gateways, and not bonded?
[14:52] <joschi> bogeyd6--: I don't think so. how would any program decide which interface to use?
[14:53] <bogeyd6--> joschi, good point. being the mail server i dont neccessarily care because the two external IPS are better
[15:21] <BeeBuu> i can't ssh in the system which running in my cloud, please help me.
[15:23] <Todd> It's in a cloud.
[15:26] <bogeyd6--> And.... /question
[15:26] <BeeBuu> Todd,yes it's can you help me please?
[15:27] <Todd> No I'm sorry. I was being rude. I still think the term cloud is funny corporate nonsense. Apologies.
[15:27] <Todd> I would help, but I'm busy at work.
[15:27] <bogeyd6--> BeeBuu, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEC
[15:27] <bogeyd6--> cloud == vmware DRS/VMOTION
[15:27] <Todd> Anytime 'cloud' is mentioned in a meeting someone always snickers.
[15:27] <BeeBuu> bogeyd6--: let me see.....thanks
[15:28] <BeeBuu> bogeyd6--:  i had checked that before, but ~~~
[15:29] <bogeyd6--> well unforutnately, right now, that and google is about all you got
[15:30] <BeeBuu> bogeyd6--: i did. but so less~~~
[15:30] <bogeyd6--> i suggest running through the steps again BeeBuu  just to make sure you did it right
[15:30] <bogeyd6--> what does ~~~ mean?
[15:32] <BeeBuu> bogeyd6--: i think maybe you are right
[15:34] <BeeBuu> can i install the UEC in machines with single netcard ?
[15:55] <Carleas> If I require a key to login, installing fail2ban is pointless, right?  The key requirement will break dictionary attacks?
[15:56] <jmitchell> Carleas, why would you want a box continually trying to log in if it's not supposed to be doing that
[15:57] <jmitchell> if fail2ban or denyhosts blocks the host then it can't bother the system anymore
[15:57] <jmitchell> denyhosts is my fave, works well
[15:57] <jmitchell> and you can subscribe to black lists
[15:58] <Carleas> So it will only serve to reduce traffic or processing?
[15:58] <jmitchell> well, it's such a small amount of traffic and work that's being done
[15:58] <jmitchell> but yes, it will save a small amount of traffic
[15:59] <jmitchell> we're talking very small amounts
[15:59] <jmitchell> the amount of traffic would only be a problem for a dialup user, that small...
[15:59] <jmitchell> if that much
[16:00] <jmitchell> make sure u know how denyhosts and fail2ban work though, don't go and lock u'rself out of the box now... i have done that before ;)
[16:00] <klaas> what is the fastest filesystem to run ontop of a software raid5 if I mainly have big files (100mb+) -- its a backup server
[16:00] <jmitchell> take a look at jfs
[16:01] <klaas> filesystem totals around 13tb
[16:01] <jmitchell> there are lots of blog posts about it though
[16:01] <jmitchell> make sure it's a stable fs though
[16:01] <jmitchell> that's lotsa data to lose
[16:01] <jmitchell> ext3 as always served me well
[16:01] <klaas> I was looking at btrfs - any experiences with that yet? not sure if its ready for productive use
[16:02] <jmitchell> nothing betters ext3 for recovery though, it's saved my ass plenty
[16:02] <jmitchell> butterfs is cool
[16:02] <jmitchell> don't know much about it though
[16:02] <jmitchell> it's been slashdotted quite a bit in the past
[16:02] <klaas> I was looking for a compromise between speed and reliablity :)
[16:03] <jmitchell> all i can suggest is that with 13tb of data, make sure u get it right ;)
[16:03] <klaas> its just the first round of backup so data loss would suck but it wouldn't kill me :)
[16:03] <jmitchell> what you can do, is formate it with each and benchmark it before you migrate the data, that might give you the answers u'r looking for
[16:04] <klaas> true but I was trying to walk the lazy way:)
[16:04] <jmitchell> klass, then it's googlewalking for u mate :D
[16:05] <jmitchell> i get better answers from this # in the evenings
[16:05] <DrPoo> how can I change the location of the apt repositories through command line?
[16:05] <jmitchell> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:06] <DrPoo> jmitchell, is there a way to find the lowest ping server automagically, as with the gui?
[16:06] <jmitchell> i think it does that in the install, but i have never found a way to rerun that part of the setup after the install
[16:07] <DrPoo> dpkg-reconfigure ??
[16:07] <jmitchell> you can grab a list of mirrors on the ubuntu.com site and ping each...
[16:07] <jmitchell> that's for reconfiguring a package
[16:07] <qman__> pretty sure ext3 can't go that big
[16:07] <jmitchell> like dpkg-reconfigure postfix would run the postfix tui
[16:07] <qman__> so you'll have to look into something else
[16:08] <jmitchell> and ext4 is soooo new
[16:08] <qman__> the only advice I can give there is, don't use XFS is you don't have a super stable system on a UPS
[16:08] <qman__> I've suffered total loss more than once with XFS
[16:08] <jmitchell> yeah, xfs is not good for recovering, trudat
[16:09] <jmitchell> ext3 for recovering is awesome
[16:09] <qman__> yeah, but it can't get that big
[16:09] <pmatulis> DrPoo: http://tinyurl.com/2w42hva
[16:09] <qman__> pretty sure it maxes at 8TB
[16:09] <qman__> you'd need two filesystems
[16:09] <qman__> and LVM
[16:09] <jmitchell> qman, what size can ext4 do?
[16:10] <qman__> I use ext3 on my big file server too, never let me down
[16:10] <qman__> but mine's only ~5TB
[16:10] <qman__> ext4 maxes at 1EB
[16:11] <qman__> that is, approximately one million terabytes
[16:11] <jmitchell> ahh, qman__ if you up the block size then it can go up to 32TB
[16:11] <jmitchell> the block size must then be 8k
[16:12] <qman__> yeah, but I think there was something else preventing me from using block sizes greater than 4k
[16:12] <qman__> I don't remember what, specifically though
[16:12] <jmitchell> shweet, so when i outgrow my 1.3tb volume and it's time for the 20tb volume, i can move to ext4
[16:12] <qman__> and it wasn't a performance thing
[16:12] <jmitchell> i'm sure it will be ready then
[16:12] <jmitchell> qman, on 4k blocks u can do 16tb
[16:13] <qman__> ah
[16:13] <jmitchell> so u'r sorted ;)
[16:13] <qman__> guess that array was bigger than I remembered
[16:13] <qman__> then 13TB would be fine
[16:13] <qman__> and ext3 is definitely my recommendation for reliability
[16:13] <jmitchell> yeah, but only if he gets the blocks right before
[16:13] <jmitchell> no moving to bigger block size after
[16:13] <qman__> that's with 4k
[16:13] <jmitchell> not that i know a way of
[16:13] <qman__> so no problems
[16:14] <jmitchell> shweet
[16:14] <qman__> ah, this was it
[16:14] <jmitchell> qman__, do you also remove the journal and then increase volume size?
[16:14] <qman__> In Linux, 8 KB block size is only available on architectures which allow 8 KB pages, such as Alpha.
[16:14] <qman__> can't do 8k blocks on x86 with linux
[16:15] <jmitchell> oh, ok then it's 4k for us, but 16tb is quite shweet none the less
[16:15] <qman__> no, I leave journaling on
[16:15] <qman__> pretty much defaults
[16:15] <qman__> it's a good tradeoff
[16:15] <jmitchell> hmm, what procedure do u use to increase the volume size then when you add raid capacity?
[16:15] <qman__> still performs better than the atrocious NTFS, and it's a lot more reliable
[16:16] <jmitchell> ntfs is poo, i agree
[16:16] <qman__> I did a simple ext3 grow
[16:16] <jmitchell> hmm
[16:16] <qman__> forget exactly what command, I only did that once
[16:16] <jmitchell> have not had to do this in ages so can't remember how i did mine
[16:16] <jmitchell> had to remove the journal though
[16:16] <qman__> but I didn't have LVM either
[16:16] <jmitchell> how retarded was i
[16:16] <qman__> just ext3 on an md
[16:16] <jmitchell> same here
[16:16] <jmitchell> hmmm
[16:16] <jmitchell> i have reading to do
[16:17] <qman__> shrinking is far more complicated, but growing is a fairly simple operation
[16:17] <jmitchell> i wonder what i missed then
[16:18] <qman__> I don't remember exactly what I did, it was a while back
[16:18] <qman__> but gparted includes that functionality in it as well
[16:19] <jmitchell> woohoo, it's 5:15, i coulda left 15min ago ;)
[16:19] <jmitchell> later!
[16:19] <qman__> hah
[16:19] <jmitchell> thanks for the chat, it was most interesting :P
[16:19] <jmitchell> goodluck DrPoo!
[16:20] <astroboy> What's the easiest way to set up a email-forwarding system for my domain? Do I have to set up a mailserver or can I avoid it? I just want to forward all the emails to another address
[16:20] <DrPoo> qman__, have u had experience in setting up an OCFS2 array?
[16:35] <EtienneG> coffeedude, hey there!  If I am not mistaken, you're the one looking after Likewise Open, correct?
[16:36] <jjohansen> SpamapS: do you have any links for KSLM besides the lp project, which doesn't have anything in it atm
[16:41] <coffeedude> EtienneG, Mostly.  Actually have handed off to another dev here at Likewise recently.  What's up?
[16:41]  * coffeedude hides.....
[16:42] <EtienneG> coffeedude, come on, it's going to be an easy one!
[16:43] <EtienneG> coffeedude, regarding upgrading from karmic to lucid; I understand going from lw 4.x to 5.x requires some manual steps
[16:43] <EtienneG> as the way the configuraiton is handled have changed
[16:44] <coffeedude> EtienneG, The upgrade is handled as part of the deb install.  But you probably want to look at the likewise-open-test PPA
[16:44] <EtienneG> coffeedude, it has been suggested to me that removing /var/lib/likewise-open/db/registry.db, and re-importing the registry files in /etc/likewise would be enought
[16:44] <coffeedude> EtienneG, and yes, 5.4 is very different from 4.x
[16:44] <EtienneG> coffeedude, yes, that I know
[16:45] <coffeedude> Removing registry.db will wipe the current state and you will have to rejoin.
[16:45] <EtienneG> coffeedude, I will have a look at the PPA.  I was under the impression that upgrading from 4 in karmic to 5 in lucid was not supported, but if you say it is, then great!
[16:47] <EtienneG> coffeedude, thanks for the info.  i will test a bit, and come back with questions I might have.  who is looking after the Ubuntu packages at Likewise now?
[16:48] <coffeedude> EtienneG,  I'm handing off to Scott Salley here (hopefully).  But i'll still be involved.  Just feel bad about not getting the SRU done yet.
[16:49] <raywang> hello, does anyone try to install a 64bit guest on a 32bit host in KVM?
[16:49] <EtienneG> coffeedude, no worry, I wasn't even aware there is an SRU in the pipeline!
[16:51] <raywang> well, nobody install a 64bit VM on 32bit operating system? :)
[16:57] <raywang> hello? anyone is familiar with virtualization? I appreciate a lot. :)
[17:02] <oru_work> how can i archive a directory with all the contents with tar ?
[17:03] <raywang> oru_work, doesn't 'tar cjf  filename.tar.bz2 directory' help?
[17:04] <oru_work> raywang, yeah i was doing tar czfv
[17:10] <raywang> oru_work, i was wonder are you concerned about those hidden files?
[17:10] <raywang> oru_work, after a quick googling, hope this can help http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/how-to-tar-dot-files-354591/
[17:19] <RoyK> rapha: if you just give the directoyr name, it'll take it all, if you say dirname/* hidden files will be lost
[17:29] <oru_work> how can I really make sure that php errors are logged ?
[17:29] <rapha> RoyK: sure you mean me?
[17:30] <RoyK> rapha: no, autocomplete led me to you, since mr/ms/mrs raywang left befour I could answer - sorry about that :)
[17:31] <RoyK> oru_work: php.ini is your friend
[17:31] <RoyK> oru_work: usually under /etc/php/apache(something
[17:36] <jjohansen> andreserl: I'm not sure I follow what your asking?  Do you want to know where to find the connector constants for a given module? (include/linux/connector.h)
[17:37] <andreserl> jjohansen, yep that's what I wanted, and I already have it. Thanks though :)
[17:37] <RudyValencia> Hm, I want to offer some basic Web hosting services to a select few friends. Is there a good (and free) cPanel equivalent that won't mangle my server's configuration up too much?
[17:37] <jjohansen> cp, sorry for latency
[17:40] <simulacrum> RudyValencia: http://wiki.debian.org/HostingControlPanels http://www.vhcs.net/index.html http://lordmatt.co.uk/item/966/
[17:40] <simulacrum> RudyValencia: You may also have a look at http://www.ebox-platform.com/
[17:45] <RudyValencia> whoa
[17:45] <RudyValencia> the demo of VHCS has no language strings :o
[17:49] <RudyValencia> I think I'll use the successor to VHCS - ispCP
[17:50] <andreserl> jjohansen, btw.. I have one quick question and you might be the one that can help me. DRBD starting from 2.6.33 is in mainline kernel... I just installed maverick server and couldn't find any drbd module. Does this mean that the module is not being compiled with the kernel shipped in maverick?
[17:51] <RudyValencia> Eh, perhaps a subdomain based on the user's Linux username would be easier to handle.
[17:53] <jjohansen> andreserl: currently it isn't
[17:53] <andreserl> jjohansen, will it be?
[17:53] <jjohansen> maybe, need to check why it isn't being compiled
[17:53] <jjohansen> it may just be an oversight/missed config
[17:54] <andreserl> jjohansen, ok, cool, because current package uses DKMS, but since now the module is included in the kernel, I'd think is best to use that module and drop DKMS
[17:56] <jjohansen> andreserl: yes, and that is probably how it got missed, I'll submit a patch for Maverick
[17:56] <andreserl> jjohansen, awesome thanks :)
[18:13] <Absorto> hello! well, there was a terrible accident and /etc/apache2 was deleted :(
[18:14] <elb0w> I cant ssh in to my box
[18:14] <elb0w> but it says its running
[18:14] <Absorto> so I then apt-get remove apache2 and then apt-get install apache2 and /etc/apache2 was created, but without envvars and apache2.conf!
[18:14] <elb0w> what can it be?
[18:15] <Absorto> elb0w: is the port listening? can you telnet to port 22?
[18:17] <SpamapS> jjohansen-afk: sorry KSLM seems to be in its nascent conceptual phases. Cole has the concept altogether, but I don't think he's near implementation yet.
[18:17] <elb0w> oh nvm he is getting denied private key
[18:17] <elb0w> publickey*
[18:18] <elb0w> Where do the logs go for that
[18:18] <oru_work> in ubuntu /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini i have error_reporting = E_ALL , so now where can i look for php error logs ?
[18:25] <jjohansen> SpamapS: okay thanks
[18:27] <boran_blok> Hi
[18:27] <boran_blok> Is this the right place to ask for info about smbd ?
[18:33] <oru_work> i made a file called test.php with <?php aksjdha(); and when i point my browser to mysite.com/test.php all I see is a blank page and no error, is this normal ?
[18:34] <patdk-wk> for security reasons, yes :)
[18:37] <oru_work> patdk-wk, /var/log/apache2/error.log doesn't show any php related error, when is the php error file ?
[18:37] <oru_work> where*
[18:38] <oru_work> patdk-wk, ^^
[18:39] <patdk-wk> dunno
[18:39] <patdk-wk> if your using mod_php I would think error.log
[18:39] <patdk-wk> unless you overrode it in the php.ini file
[18:39] <patdk-wk> but then, I don't use apache, so
[18:40] <SpamapS> oru_work: check /var/log/syslog too
[18:47] <Absorto> heh! apt-get purge <everything apache related> and then reinstalling did it! many thanks
[18:48] <oru_work> SpamapS, nope not there
[18:51] <orudie> in /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini i hhave display_errors = On , where else can I check ?
[18:56] <orudie> in /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini i have error_reporting = E_ALL but not seeing any php errors in /var/log/apache2/error.log
[18:57] <_ruben> did you restart apache after making the config change?
[18:59] <kusznir> Hi all: how do I change my software source on a ubuntu-server install without X (command line only)?  I want to select one of the specific mirrors listed in the software source selector tool in the gui.
[18:59] <kusznir> (currently its using us.archive.ubuntu.com, which is WAY slower than the mirror sitting on the same gigabit interface: ubuntu.eecs.wsu.edu :)
[18:59] <_ruben> kusznir: edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:00] <kusznir> Umm...there are a TON of lines there...I tried to do a global replace, and my apt didn't work afterward.
[19:00] <kusznir> Is there a tool that I can run that will just select that mirror, or do I have to replace specific lines of that file?  (and if so, how do I know which lines to change and which to leave the same, etc?)
[19:01] <_ruben> doing a find and replace on us.archive.ubuntu.com to ubuntu.eecs.wsu.edu should work just fine, unless the later doesn't have a working/proper mirror setup
[19:02] <kusznir> Ok, it seems tob e working that time,t hanks!
[19:19] <talcite> hey guys. is it normal for a 2 year old, 12 disk linux soft Raid 6 device to only achieve 26mb/s on rebuild?
[19:19] <talcite> it seems pretty slow since each disk should be able to put out at least 50 mb/s
[19:22] <patdk-wk> how so?
[19:23] <patdk-wk> the disks have nothing to do with it, for the most part
[19:23] <patdk-wk> what is the stripe size?
[19:23] <patdk-wk> what happens, is it has to read the data off of 11 disks, calculate what should be on the new disk, and write it to the new disk
[19:24] <patdk-wk> normally it's the cpu or pci bus that limits speed
[19:24] <patdk-wk> if the drives are connected using a pci bus, that is 100mb/s max
[19:25] <patdk-wk> so a write speed of 8mb/s
[19:25] <orudie> can anyone help me with a command to grep for error_reporting on my entire /etc/apache directory?
[19:25] <patdk-wk> if you can maxout pcix, that would be 32mb/s
[19:46] <kusznir> I'm trying to set up a cups print server.  I've installed cups and an assortment of cups-related packages on an otherwise bare 10.04 server install.  I'm trying to manage it remotely.  I've edited the one line in cupsd.conf for Listen to set it to *:631.  I can now connect from my management workstation (http://<hostname>:631), but all I get is 403: forbidden.
[19:47] <kusznir> The cups log doesn't give any information about it (in fact, it normally doesn't even log anything for my connect attempts in this way).  I enabled debug mode, and only got "normal-looking" output; nothing remotely like an error/problem.
[19:48] <kusznir> Suggestions?
[19:49] <zul> damn you php...damn you
[19:50] <kusznir> ahh..by default, all the allow,deny lines only allow for localhost...strange default.
[19:50] <ivoks_> damn you lenovo, damn you
[19:51] <kusznir> Its also strange that it doesn't log anything about the cause or even that a request was denied.
[19:51] <ivoks_> zul: how are you?
[19:51] <zul> ivoks_: good how are you?
[19:51] <ivoks_> zul: i'm !@#%#$%!
[19:52] <zul> ivoks_: ah so much fun
[19:52] <ivoks_> zul: waiting for my laptop to get back from repair shop, and waiting for broadband connection :)
[19:52] <zul> ivoks_: heh time to get drunk then :)
[19:52] <ivoks_> zul: :)
[19:53] <ivoks_> let's try that then
[19:53] <ivoks_> see you in couple of days :)
[20:11] <naiad> if i have 2 nics with internet connections active that are not bonded would I have to use iptables to for apt-get to use a specific interface?
[20:12] <rsr> hi
[20:12] <SpamapS> naiad: for outgoing packets, you're going to use the one that has the default route
[20:13] <naiad> both interfaces have gateways set
[20:13] <rsr> I installed webmin but whenever I restart the server it seems like it aplies the configuration that is in the file /etc/networking/interfaces instead of whatever I put in webmin
[20:13] <rsr> is there a problem with webmin?
[20:14] <guntbert> !webmin | rsr
[20:15] <rsr> I had issues with ebox
[20:16] <rsr> Whenever I install ebox on an ubuntu server it screws the config files and tries to take over everything
[20:20] <guntbert> rsr: I don't like ebox either, but webmin is definetely problematic (some people claim that it is compatible with ubuntu again - but as long as it isn't in the repos I keep my fingers off
[20:30] <duiu> I have a softraid 1 that I need to migrate to a new system. Is there a way I can do this without copying data to USB drive, remaking RAID, and copying data back to the new RAID?
[20:34] <TeLLuS> Hi, I added a gfx card and now plymouthd dies when trying a new kernel and generic lucid kernel stays black..  http://paste.ubuntu.com/463649/   Any way to make plymoth stay away from the framebuffer?
[20:37] <naiad> does anyone know how to have /etc/network/interfaces use dhcp but not update resolv.conf?
[20:37] <patdk-wk> edit /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf
[20:38] <patdk-wk> remove domain-name-servers and domain-search from the requests line
[20:38] <patdk-wk> and defently make sure they are not in the require line
[21:01] <webPragmatist> wheres the proper place to globally disallow directory indexes in apache as well as enable .htaccess files
[21:01] <webPragmatist> i added the .htaccess file in the "default" vhost
[21:01] <webPragmatist> but if I add -Indexes it doesn't seem to work
[21:10] <SpamapS> webPragmatist: FYI, .htaccess == very slow.
[21:24] <webPragmatist> SpamapS: yes… a poorly written .htaccess can be slow
[21:24] <webPragmatist> o.O
[21:25] <webPragmatist> and yes there might be a ms lag looking for a .htaccess file each request
[21:25] <webPragmatist> but it's convenience far outweighs it's pitfall….. though it makes me wonder if it's contents could be cached
[22:07] <CppIsWeird> how do i compile a new 10.04 kernel with dom0 support?
[22:08] <SnakeNuts> Hello all. I need to have a quick verification to see if I'm doing things right: I have a server I only have remote (SSH) access to and I want to set up a firewall. If I use 'ufw' and I do 'sudo ufw allow ssh/tcp' and the 'sudo uwf enable', am I doing it in the right order to _not_ lock myself out? (I did so yesterday by installing eBox and its firewall plug-in. I had to have my VM re-installed...)
[22:09] <patdk-wk> well, considering the following is here
[22:09] <patdk-wk> -A ufw-before-input -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
[22:09] <patdk-wk> -A ufw-before-output -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
[22:09] <patdk-wk> you should be fine
[22:10] <jdstrand> SnakeNuts: that should work fine
[22:11] <jord> Hey. I've installed postfix and root's mail is going to /var/mail/root but when I type mail as root nothing is listed. How do I get the mail to show up?
[22:11] <SnakeNuts> patdk-wk: Thanks. I'm sadly not very well versed in iptables or the like, so I don't really know what those two lines mean. (I'm assuming they're in the default settings), could you enlighten me perhaps?
[22:12] <patdk-wk> well, if you have the conntrack module loaded
[22:12] <patdk-wk> it tracks your connections
[22:12] <patdk-wk> so if it is tracking your ssh connection, and the connection is OPEN (ESTABLISHED), it will allow it, without checking the rest if your firewall rules
[22:13] <patdk-wk> as you don't have the conntrack module tracking yet, you need that ssh allow
[22:13] <patdk-wk> once ufw starts it will start conntrack
[22:13] <patdk-wk> and will notice it and add it to the list
[22:13] <patdk-wk> but for the future, restarting ufw and that, your ssh would be safe, cause of those lines
[22:14] <SnakeNuts> Ok, that makes sense. Thanks a lot for that! I'll read up on the conntrack module too. Cheers!
[22:15] <CppIsWeird> can anyone help me get a dom0 kernel on my 10.04 box?
[22:19] <webPragmatist> anyone ever try to compile lsyncd
[22:19] <webPragmatist> and actually use it
[22:21] <SpamapS> webPragmatist: no, not a poorly written .htaccess
[22:21] <SpamapS> webPragmatist: merely enabling .htaccess makes your server *much* slower
[22:21] <webPragmatist> like i said further down
[22:22] <SpamapS> webPragmatist: to server   yourserver/dir/another/deeper/file.html  the server must look for .htaccess in @docroot@/dir @docroot@/dir/another @docroot@/deeper with every single access to that file.
[22:22] <webPragmatist> exactly
[22:23] <therianwork> hey guys, is there a bug that is crashing the aptdeamon?
[22:23] <therianwork> my box keeps shutting off in the mid of the night
[22:23] <therianwork> :\
[23:52] <webPragmatist> any of you guys use rsyncd
[23:52] <webPragmatist> I'm trying to use xinet and all that jazz but despide having the user and group set to "root" i get "Permission denied" when trying to create a file
[23:53] <webPragmatist> i'm just wondering if … the "user" in user@myhost:: is the actual user that execs the command