[00:00] <zus> welcome then im not too far ahead of you, only been using linux for 6 months
[00:00] <conzeit> heh...feels good tho, if a little confusing :p
[00:00] <zus> ya might wanna ask holstein  where the logs are for the channel, he just helpped me set up JACK you can read them and get going
[00:01] <conzeit> it's ok to just close that jackd config dialogue? I do have a tutorial on how to configure that
[00:01] <conzeit> oh ok
[00:02] <holstein> yeah conzeit you can close it
[00:03] <holstein> and you should be able to change that setting later if needed
[00:03] <conzeit> ok thx
[00:03] <holstein> AFAIK your just asked if you want jackd to be running RT out of the box
[00:03] <holstein> i forget all the questions
[00:03] <holstein> read them all though
[00:04] <conzeit> yeah, I just didnt know wether jackd was something indespensable o.o
[00:04] <holstein> theres a couple of those questions that if you answer wrong, you dont get to boot in anymore
[00:04] <holstein> easily that is
[00:05] <holstein> conzeit: jackd is the JACK audio connection kit that zus and i have been setting up on his box
[00:06]  * zus wihispers to holstein  i cant get freebirth to open now.... what am i doing wrong  
[00:06] <zus> :0
[00:07] <holstein> hmm
[00:07] <conzeit> ok
[00:07] <holstein> freebirth could be broken in there
[00:07]  * holstein looking
[00:07] <conzeit> wow, that about not being able to boot is scary! but I'm using the guide that I was given here, so I'm ok right?
[00:08] <holstein> should be
[00:08] <holstein> dont worry about it
[00:08] <holstein> i always say, your not doing it right ti you hose your box and have to re-install ;)
[00:08] <holstein> the question about GRUB
[00:08] <holstein> thats the one
[00:09] <holstein> i think you have to say 'keep the locally installed file'
[00:09] <zus> i seen freebirth opened once,  then had messed with jack and it worked but when i messed with jack,... was before today
[00:09] <holstein> should be the default choice now
[00:09] <conzeit> ok so I opened this sudo gedit /etc/security/limits.conf
[00:09] <holstein> conzeit: yeah, you might not need to worry about that either
[00:09] <holstein> yet
[00:10] <holstein> i would mess around
[00:10] <holstein> and tweak as needed
[00:10] <conzeit> now, it tells me to add 3 commands that start with @....all of what I see in that conf file starts with #...do I paste it with # and then @ or just leave it alone?
[00:10] <holstein> conzeit: totally not going to hurt anything though
[00:10]  * holstein looking
[00:11] <holstein> conzeit: you can just add them at the bottom
[00:11] <holstein> anything with a # is ignored
[00:11] <zus> i think its the adding username to audio/video group
[00:12] <conzeit> ok, I thought so =) just wanted to make sure
[00:12] <holstein> so you can put them after #end of file even
[00:12] <holstein> so you know what youve edited
[00:12] <holstein> conzeit: pretty sure you have to log out and back on for those chagnes to take effect
[00:13] <conzeit> oh ok
[00:15] <holstein> zus: im looking around
[00:15] <holstein> freebirth doesnt 'just work' for me with JACK either
[00:16] <holstein> you know
[00:16] <holstein> i think its just not set up to work with JACK anymore
[00:16] <holstein> because it was crashy
[00:16] <holstein> not sure though
[00:16] <conzeit> k I'm supposed to be done now so I'ma reboot thx for the help guys =)
[00:17] <holstein> conzeit: anytime
[00:17] <zus> yeah   freebirth was wired for me  too that one time
[00:17] <holstein> alright
[00:17] <holstein> i gotta run eat
[00:17] <holstein> i asked over in #opensourcemusicians
[00:18] <holstein> if you want to keep an eye over there
[00:18] <holstein> laterx
[00:24] <zus> holstein,  thanks again
[00:26]  * Conzeit facepalms
[00:26]  * zus blinks
[00:26] <Conzeit> just rebooted and it looks just like before I tried to install studio! I dont see the new apps at all
[00:27] <zus> in synaptic package manager
[00:27] <zus> type in
[00:27] <zus> ubuntustudio at somepoint itll show you all the studio stuffs
[00:28] <Conzeit> ok...
[00:29] <Conzeit> but that stuff I just did from the guide...it really just didnt work at all?
[00:31] <zus> behind the scenes it did im sure
[00:32] <Conzeit> so are the apps somewhere in my pc they just dont show up in applications menu?
[00:58] <holstein> strange
[01:07] <zus> holstein,  turning off jack hit stop and then quit? i will mesaground with more later on
[01:07] <holstein> zus: exactly
[01:08] <holstein> you want to hit stop first
[01:08] <holstein> then close it
[01:08] <zus> disconnect the apps?
[01:09] <holstein> you dont have to
[01:09] <holstein> but that will happen anyways
[01:10] <zus> cool thanks a milli haha
[01:10] <holstein> :)
[01:25] <Conzeit> holstein, zus....I used synaptic and everything worked fine, thanks for the help!
[01:25] <zus> Conzeit,  yay!
[01:25] <Conzeit> =)
[01:46] <zus> Conzeit,  its a world of difference yeah?
[23:36] <siretart> hey there
[23:37] <siretart> a few days (week) ago we've started a jack transition in debian that is a bit complicated
[23:37] <siretart> for squeeze, we want to ship both jackd1 and jackd2
[23:38] <siretart> is this something ubuntustudio would want as to do as well?
[23:38] <siretart> and is there a more appropriate place to discuss this than this irc channel?
[23:39] <siretart> I mean, I could of course upload both jackd1 and jackd2 to maverick, but both should be promoted to main, or big mess[tm] will happen
[23:45] <holstein> hey siretart
[23:45] <holstein> let me suggest a couple channels
[23:45] <holstein> #ubuntustudio-devel and #kxstudio
[23:46] <holstein> the mailing list for ubuntustudio is really the best way to get intouch with the dev AFAIK
[23:47] <holstein> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/Ubuntu-Studio-devel
[23:53] <tucemiux> holstein, youre going to attend the HOPE conference this weekend?
[23:54] <holstein> nah
[23:54] <holstein> i got work
[23:54] <tucemiux> yeah, that's what i figured
[23:54] <holstein> i got gigs all weekend
[23:54] <holstein> gotta drive all over the place :/
[23:54] <tucemiux> i suppose I could be the channel's rep then
[23:54] <holstein> are you going?
[23:55] <tucemiux> im seriously thinking about going on saturday, do you know if the ticket is for all 3 days or just for one day?
[23:55]  * holstein totally clueless
[23:56] <tucemiux> the guy from wikileaks is going to be there on saturday so it's going to get really interesting plus they got a show at 11:30? its going to sound like a blast and I can probably take my laptop to play with