[00:01] <well_laid_lawn> nicofs: that'll be the line in init.d/rc.local
[00:02] <nicofs> well_laid_lawn: already there... just to be safe, i added that line for cpu1 and cpu0
[00:03] <well_laid_lawn> k
[00:05] <well_laid_lawn> nicofs: for the script to work you need 3 things - cpufreqd running and using the userspace governor and the scaling_setspeed file to be writable by the user
[00:06] <nicofs> well_laid_lawn: another mistake by me... there was a typo...
[00:06] <well_laid_lawn> nicofs: we all get those :]
[00:06] <nicofs> well_laid_lawn: yes - but only few manage to do that when using copy+paste...
[00:07] <well_laid_lawn> nicofs: that's a new trick :]
[00:07] <nicofs> well_laid_lawn: menu's back - problem persists...
[00:07] <well_laid_lawn> nicofs: check which governor is being used then
[00:09] <nicofs> well_laid_lawn: did you tell me how earlier on...?
[00:09] <well_laid_lawn> <well_laid_lawn> nicofs: in /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_governors what is now available?
[00:09] <well_laid_lawn> try scaling_governor nicofs
[00:11] <nicofs> well_laid_lawn: ondemand in scaling_governor
[00:13] <well_laid_lawn> nicofs: then either change any profile with ondemand to userspace or look in /etc/default/cpufreq for another line setting the default governor
[00:17] <nicofs> well_laid_lawn: that's my cpufreq http://paste.ubuntu.com/463228/ and when i edited the profiles i set all of them to userspace - just to be shure...
[00:17] <well_laid_lawn> k looking nicofs
[00:19] <well_laid_lawn> nicofs: line 6 needs to have userspace and line 13 should go back to auto
[00:21] <nicofs> well_laid_lawn: done&saved, restarted service - still the same...
[00:22] <well_laid_lawn> nicofs: check the governor being used again pls
[00:23] <nicofs> well_laid_lawn: scaling_governor is userspace
[00:24] <well_laid_lawn> nicofs: in terminal try   echo 1000000 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu1/cpufreq/scaling_setspeed && cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu1/cpufreq/scaling_setspeed
[00:24] <nicofs> well_laid_lawn: 1666000
[00:25] <well_laid_lawn> nicofs: no errors about permission?
[00:25] <nicofs> well_laid_lawn: no, just that...
[00:26] <well_laid_lawn> nicofs:  try   ls -l /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu1/cpufreq/ | grep setspeed
[00:26] <nicofs> " -rw-rw-rw- 1 root root 4096 2010-07-14 01:24 scaling_setspeed "
[00:29] <well_laid_lawn> nicofs: can you paste the file /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu1/cpufreq/scaling_available_frequencies ?
[00:30] <nicofs> 1666000 1333000 1000000
[00:30] <well_laid_lawn> k
[00:32] <well_laid_lawn> nicofs: if the governor is userspace and the setspeed file is writable it should work...
[00:32] <well_laid_lawn> nicofs: unless your cpu doesn't support the speed being changed - some don't
[00:33] <nicofs> well_laid_lawn: prepare for the hated words... in windows it worked... like my 3G modem or my cardreader...
[00:34] <well_laid_lawn> nicofs: sometimes ubuntu does things like not enabling certain features in the kernels they build - it could be that
[00:36] <nicofs> well_laid_lawn: but why should that be deactivated of all things? hmm... well considering that some things in xubuntu appear to be not thought through it might as well be deactivated...
[00:37] <well_laid_lawn> nicofs: I've gone through all I had to do here to use that script so it must be something you have there sorry
[00:38] <nicofs> well_laid_lawn: well never mind... thanks for you efforts anyway. in case someone else comes with that problem, i can pass some knowledge on. but for now i have to go to bed... cya
[00:38] <well_laid_lawn> bye
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[02:51] <cablop> hello people, i want to install a minimal xubuntu, i don't need to install abiword and media players and wnothing like that that ame in the xubuntu-desktop package... but i don't want to end inside a desktop with no panel and tray... what must i install?
[02:52] <well_laid_lawn> !minimal
[02:52] <ubottu> The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[02:53] <well_laid_lawn> and install xfce
[02:53] <cablop> well, the problem is i had an already running system and want to switch from gnome to xfce4
[02:53] <cablop> *i have
[02:54] <well_laid_lawn> !purexfce
[02:54] <ubottu> If you want to remove all !KDE and !Gnome packages and have a default !Xubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce »
[02:55] <cablop> i did years ago, i installed xfce, then i ended inside a xubuntu with nothing else
[02:55] <cablop> i didn't say i want to uninnstall the gnome
[02:55] <cablop> but i think i can read the command and get the package list from there... anyway...
[02:56] <well_laid_lawn> I don't understand what you want then
[02:56] <cablop> well, that command won't work, it says sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop, that will install office and media players then
[02:57] <well_laid_lawn> just do install xfce then
[02:57] <cablop> i just want to install a functional xfce4 environment to be able to open windows and copy paste things edit things in the server, and so on
[02:57] <cablop> in the past when i installed xfce i ended inside a place with nothing but an empty background no panels and so on, i'm just willing to avoid that again :)
[02:58] <well_laid_lawn> they would have been there just not configured
[03:01] <cablop> maybe... i did that years ago
[03:01] <cablop> even before 8.04
[03:01] <cablop> maybe the package was not complete enough, wll i try what you say
[03:01] <cablop> :)
[03:01] <well_laid_lawn> luck :]
[03:02] <cablop> what i want is to get rid of metacity and compiz and alike inside a virtual machine, dunno why, but that thing seems too slow regardless i have 3d acceleration and so on... then i decided to move to xfce4
[03:02] <cablop> i know it is the GUI the one with the problem
[03:03] <well_laid_lawn> might be lots of services running too - gnome has lots of them
[03:05] <cablop> yes, but cause ubuntu "smartly" decided to remove a service manager i don't know how to get rid of many of them
[03:07] <cablop> well_laid_lawn: thanks, it's installing now
[03:07] <cablop> i'll go to buy some coffee or antything in the mean time
[03:07] <cablop> hehe
[03:07] <well_laid_lawn> :]
[03:37] <Vigo> Hello
[03:39] <Vigo> Hello
[03:39] <mmfb> Yet
[03:39] <mmfb> Yep*
[03:39] <Vigo> This is Xubuntu #channel
[03:39] <mmfb> Awesome
[03:40] <Vigo> Welcome to freedom and choice.
[03:40] <mmfb> Is there a way to have separate wallpapers on my workspaces?
[03:40] <mmfb> Vigo: haha, Thanks.
[03:40] <mmfb> Feels good.
[03:41] <Vigo> Yes, I was looking at that earlier.
[03:41] <mmfb> How?
[03:42] <Vigo> Ok first things first, I think gDesklets is what you are looking for as that Mac Like dock, but there are many like that.
[03:42] <Vigo> Do you have the Software Center on that?
[03:43] <mmfb> I've been following that "adesklets" tutorial link that you gave me.
[03:43] <mmfb> I downloaded it from the Software Center and I rebooted, but nothing.
[03:44] <Vigo> mmfb: That one looks old now, have you tried gDesklets yet?
[03:44] <mmfb> No, let me look
[03:45] <Vigo> Applications>Ubuntu Software Center?
[03:46] <mmfb> Yeah... I got gDesklets in my Accessories tab now, but when I load it up I get a blank window called "gDesklets shell"
[03:46] <Vigo> mmfb: good, sorta
[03:46] <mmfb> And another called "gDesklets Installer". The installer is giving me those "floaters" to install
[03:47] <mmfb> Floaters as in those icons that appear on the bottom.
[03:48] <Vigo> mmfb: Also good.
[03:48] <Vigo> mmfb: That is akin to a Control Panel for the desklets, in that you can add/remove what you want.
[03:49] <mmfb> Tried installing weather 0.0.5 and it said bad download. Same with weatherforecast 0.2.2
[03:50] <Vigo> mmfb: A quick IRC tip, type my name before the sentence or use tab to auto complete the /nick.
[03:51] <mmfb> Vigo: You mean like this. Sorry, I forgot.
[03:52] <Vigo> mmfb: I think you may be missing some dependencies there, do you know how to open Synaptic Package Manager?
[03:52] <Vigo> mmfb: Yes.
[03:52] <mmfb> Vigo: Got it open now.
[03:53] <Vigo> mmfb: So this is like your first journey on a GNU/Linux/Debian system?
[03:53] <mmfb> Vigo: I installed Volume and it installed, but then I closed the installer and tried reopening gDesklets and the installer never came up, just the shell for a couple seconds and then it dissappeared.
[03:54] <mmfb> Vigo: I've been having this computer for a while, but I haven't messed with it much, besides trying to get certain games to work through Wine.
[03:55] <Vigo> mmfb: Okee dokee, open Synaptic Package Manager.
[03:56] <mmfb> Vigo: Done
[03:56] <_Techie_> mmfb, welcome to the planet *nix, please keep your arms inside the vehicle at all times... we wish you good luck and hope you have a nice stay.
[03:56] <mmfb> _Techie_ : Haha, thanks.
[03:57] <Vigo> mmfb: Left Pane, look near bottom.
[03:58] <Vigo> mmfb: See the Status button?
[03:58] <mmfb> Vigo: Yes, sire.
[03:58] <mmfb> sir*
[03:58] <Vigo> mmfb: Tic that
[03:58] <mmfb> Vigo: Got it.
[03:59] <Vigo> mmfb: Now select Installed
[03:59] <mmfb> Vigo: Done
[04:02] <Vigo> mmfb: We are looking or you will be looking for gDesklets and Compiz to see if they are installed, there are many ways to do this, this is the GUI one.
[04:03] <mmfb> Vigo: gDesklets is installed, but I don't see Compiz there.
[04:04] <Vigo> mmfb: I am still searching the dependencies , I think you may need Compiz, let me make certain though...
[04:07] <Vigo> mmfb: From what I see, it looks like it, see the Search area in Synaptics?
[04:07] <mmfb> Vigo: Yep
[04:08] <Vigo> mmfb: Type compiz, and search it
[04:08] <mmfb> Vigo: In "All" correct?
[04:09] <Vigo> mmfb: A word of warning here, this eye candy stuff will slow that computer down to a crawl , but it is Linux, so it can all be undone with a few lines of code or keystrokes.
[04:10] <Vigo> mmfb: Yes, all
[04:10] <Vigo> mmfb: or Not Installed
[04:10] <mmfb> Vigo: Ah, well screw that. I just wanted it to be pretty, but if it'll slow this thing down then I'm good.
[04:10] <mmfb> Vigo: Sorry, bro.
[04:10] <Vigo> mmfb: Is all ok.
[04:11] <mmfb> Vigo: How about that wallpaper thing, though?
[04:11] <mmfb> Vigo: How would I be able to do that?
[04:12] <Vigo> mmfb: I had to toss that caveat in there, that is the idea behind XFCE, to be lightweight and FAST.
[04:12] <mmfb> Vigo: Yeah, and I need it with this old beast.
[04:12] <Vigo> mmfb: There are a few ways, Trim that down or go even lighter,,,,
[04:13] <mmfb> Vigo: I'm running 1.88GhZ Processor with 1Gb of RAM
[04:13] <Vigo> mmfb: That is a monster killer compared to my test laptop.
[04:14] <mmfb> Vigo: Haha. What you runnin' on that?
[04:15] <Vigo> mmfb: I am running Crunch on a AMD 686, 512mb RAM. it still rocks sox.
[04:15] <Vigo> mmfb: A customized Ubuntu/Debian
[04:16] <Vigo> mmfb: It can be downloaded from Ubuntu Repos or Debian mirrors now.
[04:16] <mmfb> Vigo: Wow... I think I saw a computer like that once. It was a picture on some hieroglyphics.
[04:16] <mmfb> Vigo: lol
[04:17] <Vigo> wheheheheh
[04:17] <Vigo> mmfb: I lost the hammer and chisel, but it still works and it is a 1995 BIOS.
[04:19] <mmfb> Vigo: Ouch!
[04:19] <mmfb> Vigo: And you say it still kicks ass?
[04:20] <mmfb> Vigo: I'm sure it was a beast, but people were too fascinated with their microwaves to pay attention.
[04:21] <Vigo> mmfb: True that is, I been at this way too long, but I still learn every day, so is all good.
[04:22] <Vigo> Did Compiz install?
[04:23] <mmfb> Vigo: I didn't bother because I gave up the want for that app.
[04:24] <mmfb> Vigo: Since it'll slow this thing down so much.
[04:24] <mmfb> Vigo: Can you help me with that multiple wallpaper thing, though?
[04:25] <Vigo> mmfb: That is wise, most people do not realize that all that eye candy can data can be quickly accessed with a web browser, gasp.
[04:28] <mmfb> Vigo: You're avoiding the wallpaper thing, aren't you. lol
[04:28] <Vigo> mmfb: here is the Gnome how to; http://ubuntuguide.net/different-wallpapers-on-each-workspace-in-ubuntu
[04:28] <mmfb> Vigo: I've seen a couple threads with people talking about doing it on GNOME but would it be any different under xfce?
[04:30] <Vigo> mmfb: I did it on PC-BSD and Debian XFCE and Lubuntu, have to locate that bookmark...
[04:32] <Vigo> mmfb: I do recall AWN was one way,
[04:33] <mmfb> Vigo: AWN?
[04:35] <Vigo> mmfb: Avant Window Navigator
[04:35] <Vigo> mmfb: http://www.zimbio.com/Avant+Window+Navigator/articles/6/How+get+different+wallpapers+each+workspace
[04:37] <Vigo> mmfb: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=762363
[04:38] <Vigo> mmfb: May need to make a PPA for that, let me check though...
[04:39] <mmfb> Vigo: You're thrown a lot at me at once, bro. lol
[04:39] <mmfb> throwing**
[04:39] <Vigo> mmfb: It is in the repos for this one.
[04:40] <Vigo> mmfb: Close Synaptic
[04:40] <Vigo> mmfb: Open Software Center.
[04:40] <mmfb> Vigo: done
[04:40] <Vigo> mmfb: In the Search type awn
[04:41] <Vigo> mmfb: You will or should also see a docky
[04:42] <mmfb> Vigo: Might you be on tomorrow at some time?
[04:42] <Vigo> mmfb: Most likely, yes.
[04:42] <mmfb> Vigo: Gettin' a bit tired and got work early tomorrow. I'll be back on around 6pm central standard time.
[04:44] <Vigo> mmfb: Take a look at Lubuntu in your spare time, and Crunchbang
[04:45] <Vigo> mmfb: I am CDT also. That should work out.
[04:46] <mmfb> Wigo: Will do. See you tomorrow, brotha. Peace
[04:46] <Vigo> mmfb: Cheers.
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[06:10] <sneakers> Is xubuntu really lighter than ubuntu?
[06:25] <_Techie_> sneakers, some people say that Xubuntu has become as bloated as ubuntu, however i reckon its something you have to decide for yourself
[06:35] <sneakers> is there a version of ubuntu that is lightweight?
[06:39] <churl> Hello, is there an easy way to disable the screensaver while playing video (totem) full screen?
[06:55] <gabel> hello noob question here - how to connect ipod touch with xubuntu - for rhythmbox etc... in regular ubuntu works fine
[06:56] <gabel> i installed almost everything what i found in synaptic with "ipod"
[07:00] <churl> hello there gabel
[07:00] <gabel> hi
[07:01] <gabel> churl, can you help me? :)
[07:01] <churl> ever used floola?
[07:02] <gabel> linux noob here... so no i didnt
[07:03] <churl> what are you wanting to do, in basic terms, with your ipod?
[07:03] <gabel> i want to listen music from ipod on rhythmbox like in ubuntu
[07:04] <gabel> in LUBUNTU i instaled: gvfs gvfs-backends gvfs-bin gvfs-fuse libgvfscommon0 ifuse libgpod-dev libgpod-common libimobiledevice-utils libimobiledevice0 libimobiledevice-dev libplist++1 libplist-utils python-plist libusb-1.0-0 libusb-1.0-0-dev libusbmuxd1 usbmuxd and it works... (i found this on google)
[07:04] <Sysi> do you have rhythmbox installed? :)
[07:05] <gabel> yes of course
[07:06] <gabel> but when i connect ipod, nothing happend. i cant see device on "file browser" and no popup windows with something like "would you like to start rhythmbox" like in ubuntu
[07:06] <Sysi> start rhythmbox and see?
[07:06] <gabel> nothning
[07:06] <gabel> i cant see my ipod in whole system
[07:07] <Sysi> check plugins, there's something about ipods
[07:07] <churl> sounds like you need to mount it
[07:07] <Sysi> is it even possible to mount ipod?
[07:07] <gabel> its not about plugins for players. xubuntu didnt see my ipod. nowhere
[07:08] <Sysi> have you had it working in same machine but with different enviroment?
[07:08] <Sysi> and same *buntu version
[07:08] <Sysi> do your regular usb sticks work?
[07:08] <gabel> yes. in regular ubuntu and in lubuntu when i installed packages as i wrote a minte before
[07:09] <gabel> it was working 1 hour ago, before i install xubuntu :)
[07:10] <Sysi> have you reinstalled entire system or just desktop?
[07:10] <gabel> entire system
[07:11] <Sysi> you wouldn't had to..
[07:11] <gabel> i am looking for best distribudion for my eee... so ubuntu is slow, lubuntu "stupid" xubuntu is perfect
[07:11] <churl> have you set your ipod to act like a hard drive in itunes?
[07:11] <Sysi> install hal
[07:11] <gabel> ?
[07:12] <Sysi> sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install hal
[07:12] <churl> got a windows with itunes on it near by?
[07:12] <gabel> churl, yes i have
[07:13] <gabel> what with itunes?
[07:13] <churl> there's a way to set it to (something along the lines of treating the ipod as a harddrive)
[07:14] <gabel> well... i will look...
[07:14] <churl> then, if settings willing, upon plug in Thunar will mount it like a usb device
[07:15] <gabel> in itunes is nothing... :(
[07:16] <churl> if it wasn't 2:15am here and if i hadnt been in bed for 3 hours already (as im typing this from bed lying down) i'd love to walk you through it
[07:16] <gabel> is there a way how to find if xubuntu even see something connected when i plug ipod?
[07:17] <gabel> maybe is some kind of "bad recognisation" ?
[07:17] <churl> what does sudo mount -a tell you?
[07:17] <gabel> nothing
[07:17] <Sysi> lsusb
[07:18] <churl> ever play with /etc/fstab?
[07:18] <churl> nm
[07:18] <gabel> one times...
[07:19] <gabel> Bus 001 Device 008: ID 05ac:1299 Apple, Inc.
[07:19] <gabel> lsusb...
[07:19] <Sysi> if it's just about mounting, propably installing hal helps
[07:19] <Sysi> do you have usb-stick or memory card to see if automount works?
[07:20] <gabel> yes
[07:20] <gabel> flash drive work fine
[07:24] <churl> http://www.technipages.com/make-ipod-a-hard-drive.html  enable disk use is what you might want
[07:26] <gabel> no no... i have newest itunes and there is nothnig. btw my ipod si ipod touch... so maybe nano works in other way
[07:28] <churl> if all that is true, sounds like you've got some reading to do
[07:28] <churl> good luck my friend
[07:29] <Sysi> !iphone
[07:29] <ubottu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - For the iPhone and the iPod Touch, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod
[07:31] <gabel> thx... i will try
[07:33] <Sysi> and sorry, i need to go to work
[07:35] <gabel> k
[07:36] <_Techie_> gabel, whats the problem?
[07:37] <gabel> when i connect my ipod touch in xubuntu, nothing is happend. in ubuntu i can access to device, rhythmbox can play song from device... here nothing
[07:37] <gabel> i installed everything i found in synaptic with signature "ipod"
[07:38] <gabel> i search google for help, but useless... a hour ago in ubuntu and lubuntu was everything perfect :)
[14:47] <n00b_2> hi
[14:47] <Sysi> !hi
[14:47] <ubottu> Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay!
[14:49] <n00b_2> yeah
[14:49] <n00b_2> um
[14:49] <n00b_2> i've got a question
[14:50] <n00b_2> I'm running xubuntu 10.4 on my computer
[14:51] <n00b_2> and i'd like to use the resulution 1440 by 1050 on my crt
[14:51] <n00b_2> how do i set this
[14:52] <Sysi> have you checked settings → display? what graphics card do you have?
[14:55] <n00b_2> the resolution isn't mentioned in this menu
[14:56] <n00b_2> sorry for my english, its not my foreign language
[14:56] <Sysi> you should maybe try local channel, this is generic ubuntu-question
[14:57] <n00b_2> hm
[14:57] <n00b_2> kay
[14:57] <n00b_2> thx
[14:57] <Sysi> np :)
[15:27] <slow-motion> bye
[16:04] <DrPoo> How can I access a remote location through ssh (like in ubuntu) in xubuntu?
[16:05] <charlie-tca> !ssh
[16:05] <ubottu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH for client usage. PuTTY is an SSH client for Windows; see: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ for it's homepage. See also !scp (Secure CoPy) and !sshd (Secure SHell Daemon)
[16:06] <DrPoo> I was hoping to use the gui
[16:09] <charlie-tca> Hmmm
[16:09] <DrPoo> as in ubuntu
[16:09] <charlie-tca> I don't actually know how Ubuntu does it, since I haven't tried it for three years in anything except Xubuntu
[16:10] <DrPoo> basically it uses fish or sftp to access remote locations
[16:10] <DrPoo> i think...
[16:11] <Sysi> gigolo or filezilla?
[16:21] <DrPoo> fireftp?
[16:23] <Sysi> filezilla is in repositories, gigolo by default
[16:27] <charlie-tca> !info fireftp
[16:27] <ubottu> Package fireftp does not exist in lucid
[16:47] <charlie-tca>  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek Day 3 about to start in 12 minutes in #ubuntu-classroom
[19:49] <shey> I have a problem I hope someone can help me with. I have a Dell Inspiron 600m, which confusingly enough, I cannot install Ubuntu, or any of the derivatives, (last one was Xubuntu, hence the reason for me being here..) It gets to about 76% Configuring or Cleaning up, then the laptop just dies. Windows and Debian both install with no problems at all, and hard disk tests do not show any critical errors on the surface of the disk.
[19:51] <shey> I have also tried Mandriva, openSUSE, and Slack, and they all install just fine, and do not report any errors.
[19:52] <shey> But U/X/K/ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZubuntu will not.
[19:52] <charlie-tca> dies as in shuts down? black screen? what exactly?
[19:52] <shey> shuts down
[19:53] <charlie-tca> Tried on both ac and battery?
[19:53] <shey> and when I try to boot back up, its just a blinking cursur
[19:53] <shey> yup, both a/c and battery
[19:54] <shey> it Installed ONCE, and ran so slow. after that I have never been able to get it installed again.
[19:54] <shey> I have also tried three different hard disks.
[19:55] <shey> I have already searched google, and to my findings, everyone has been able to get the 600m to work with a basic install.
[19:55] <shey> maybe this is a new bug?
[19:56] <charlie-tca> I would suspect a hardware issue, if others with the same machine are not having this issue
[19:56] <shey> I dont even know where to start looking.
[19:57] <shey> I could try removing the wifi card, being as i think there is a known bug with some Broadcom chipsets.
[19:57] <shey> its an ipw2200BG chipset.
[19:57] <charlie-tca> Yes, that may work. This might be an overheating issue with the inspiron
[19:58] <shey> which is Intel, but does intel use the Broadcomm chipset?
[19:58] <charlie-tca> leaving the card out during the install will let it finish sooner
[19:58] <shey> hmm
[19:59] <shey> I might just have to stick with debian, and polish it up manually.
[19:59] <charlie-tca> after the install, insert the card, and run updates
[19:59] <shey> I could try that
[20:00] <shey> be back in a bit. Ill send a report to the forums if this is the case.
[20:39] <shey> diabled the wifi in the bios, install went just fine.
[20:39] <shey> so yeah
[20:40] <shey> 10.4 is buggy during install with the 2200BG wireless card.
[20:45] <ssssss> Is it possible to find out by looking at the boot partition whether Ubuntu was installed or xubuntu?
[20:47] <charlie-tca> ssssss: it is possible to look at Applications, about
[20:47] <charlie-tca> If you have an Applications and places menus only, it is Xubuntu
[20:48] <charlie-tca> If the desktop is blue, it is probably Xubuntu
[20:48] <charlie-tca> If the desktop is purple or orange, it is Ubuntu
[20:49] <Sysi> if you have both desktops it shouldn't matter really
[20:55] <shey> enabled the card again after the install, it crashes during an update.grade
[20:55] <shey> sooo
[20:55] <shey> hm
[21:18] <punkmexic> hola
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