jjesseJontheEchidna is moun hosted on lp as a project?01:05
JontheEchidnajjesse: just as a place to throw release tarballs01:05
jjesseoh ok01:15
jjesseis there a spot as i work on my documentation for moun?01:15
JontheEchidnajjesse: the source is all in kde svn. If you don't have commit access, just email it to me02:00
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: you should poke the KDE sysadmins a bit, supposedly you could get into ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/{stabe,unstable}/apps/KDE4.x05:50
CIA-33[ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100715050404-r7f330binln0q1w0 * src/statusnotifier/StatusNotifier.cpp ensure button visibility is right whenever setIdle gets called06:04
CIA-33[ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100715051728-z4szccw6em8r36pq * src/libs/Types.h Say hello to QIntHash06:17
CIA-33[ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100715051755-r9cm985tcdz6wbre * src/libs/introspection/com.ubuntuone.SyncDaemon.xml introspect com.ubuntuone.SyncDaemon.Config06:18
CIA-33[ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100715051920-rvwzgdbrix33az4v * src/libs/SyncDaemon.cpp ComUbuntuoneSyncDaemonConfigInterface++06:19
CIA-33[ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100715052208-ol2h874xpik6jas5 * src/libs/introspection/com.ubuntuone.SyncDaemon.xml import introspection of com.ubuntuone.SyncDaemon.Events while I am at it06:22
CIA-33[ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100715052320-n2rxajsx1kbz14ey * src/libs/SyncDaemon.cpp ComUbuntuoneSyncDaemonEventsInterface++06:23
CIA-33[ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100715055522-t5xmlzvw4du1rlqu * src/kcmodule/ (Module.ui CMakeLists.txt Module.cpp Module.h) Convert KCM to Qt Designer UI06:55
CIA-33[ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100715060145-2bnyz22xc81dtuoh * src/kcmodule/Module.ui set accountbox defaults + translatable07:01
apacheloggerif you try setting the bandwith limitof the u1 syncdaemon to 0 it will just ignore you09:11
apacheloggerthat is so silly it almost deserves a bug report09:11
* valorie keeps trying to install the package, but no luck so far09:12
valorieI found out ubuntuone does work though09:12
apacheloggerlikely enough you are running into file conflicts by now ;)09:12
valorieso I have high hopes for your -kde one09:13
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apacheloggeroh oh oh09:21
apacheloggerit seems u1 syncd makes 0 == no limit Oo09:21
CIA-33[ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100715083642-kc7ph6ver87nhcbz * src/libs/ (4 files) SyncDaemonConfig++ (wraps around config interface and provides cool naming + struct for limits transfer)09:37
CIA-33[ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100715083723-1xi91ytt6pxc1i8w * src/kcmodule/ (CMakeLists.txt Module.cpp Module.h Module.ui) Add bandwith management capabilities + appropriate ui stuff + saving + default values09:37
CIA-33[ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100715092123-ct4mlvzurl081kr7 * src/libs/ (CMakeLists.txt SyncDaemon.cpp) Add u1 dir to the places list10:22
RedT0mt0mhi all 10:29
RedT0mt0mis there a bug with utf8 on kubuntu 10.04 ?10:30
RedT0mt0mgoogle is not so talkative on that topic10:30
RiddellRedT0mt0m: not that I know of10:30
RedT0mt0mbut anyway, I can't find a way to toggle everything to utf810:30
RedT0mt0min console, locale is saying I'm using the right encoding10:31
RedT0mt0mbut Kde answer POSIX10:31
Riddellmost locales will be utf8, and they'll all be unicode10:31
RedT0mt0mmaybe a silly question, but where can I set that setting ?10:32
RedT0mt0mRiddell: any idea ?10:34
Riddellsystem locale is set by qt-language-selector10:35
RedT0mt0mand that's a tool modifying config files or only for a running session ?*10:36
emonkeyyou know this is a developer channel and not a suppoert channel?10:39
RedT0mt0memonkey: ok, but it looks like a bug ...10:40
Riddellyou haven't actually said what your problem is10:41
emonkeyyour second question seemed like you just want to ask instead of reading a manual ... sorry but a developer isn't a manual.10:41
RedT0mt0mthe problem is that KDE start with POSIX encoding, even if the system is configured in utf8, and even if I chose to install and use other language10:44
Riddellwhere do you get that idea?10:44
Riddelldoes it not read utf8 files correctly?10:44
RedT0mt0mfor example, in a konsole :10:45
RedT0mt0mlocale ... answer POSIX10:45
RedT0mt0msu -l kt10:46
RedT0mt0mlocale ... answer UTF810:46
RedT0mt0m(kt is the user logged on kde10:47
shadeslayer_JontheEchidna: around? and free to explain muon kode? :D10:47
shadeslayer_RedT0mt0m: nick inspired from Star Wars? :D10:49
RedT0mt0mshadeslayer_: not really10:52
apacheloggershadeslayer_ that ol starwars fanboy :P10:53
apacheloggerRedT0mt0m: do you use kdm?10:54
RedT0mt0mapachelogger: yes, kdm 10:56
apacheloggerRedT0mt0m: what does cat /etc/default/locale say?10:58
RedT0mt0mapachelogger: I set it to LANG="fr_FR.utf8"10:59
apacheloggerthen that should be the locale in KDE :O11:00
apacheloggerRedT0mt0m: ls -R /usr/lib/locale/fr_FR.utf811:00
RedT0mt0mapachelogger: directory exist, with everything inside11:01
apacheloggerthen I do not know\11:01
RedT0mt0mapachelogger: no prob, thanks anyway :-)11:02
Riddellit does?  I have no directories in /usr/lib/locale/11:02
apacheloggerno directories at all?11:03
RedT0mt0mRiddell: I guess yes, as that's populated by locales generator11:03
yofelI have 'locale-archive' in /usr/lib/locale, and that's all11:04
yofelthen again, I use US english11:04
apacheloggeris maverick broken or does it dislike virtualbox?11:05
RiddellRedT0mt0m: tried qt-language-selector?11:06
apacheloggerRiddell: maverick starts plasma-netbook when inside a vm11:08
apacheloggerand right after first start11:09
apacheloggerwhat a beauty ;)11:09
* apachelogger thinks that testing u1 on maverick was a bad idea :S11:09
Riddellscreen height < 700 pixels.  I'm going to add laptop-detect to that11:09
Riddelland maybe also  lshal | grep storage.cdrom11:10
Riddellapachelogger: what does the ubuntuone kioslave do?11:10
apacheloggerdo you have a kioslave?11:10
* apachelogger thought he deactivated that11:11
Riddelljust looking at the source11:11
apacheloggerit was just a try to see where I can get with slavery11:11
apacheloggerwhich is not far, since I need to manipulate overlays11:11
apacheloggerwhich is not possible in a slave11:12
apacheloggersame goes for the plasmoid btw11:12
Riddellapachelogger: hmm, sync daemon isn't syncing11:30
apacheloggerRiddell: you have the syncdaemon from my ppa, right?11:30
Riddellgood question11:31
apacheloggerRiddell: python-ubuntuone-client should be 1.2.1-0ubuntu3+kwallet311:33
Riddellno I have 1.3.3-0ubuntu111:33
Riddellthis needs some maverick love I guess11:33
Riddelllet me try on my netbook that still has lucid11:33
Riddellapachelogger: it only launches if I already have a ~/Ubuntu One folder?11:46
apacheloggerRiddell: should start eitherway11:46
Riddell/etc/xdg/autostart/ubuntuone-launch.desktop checks for ~/Ubuntu One11:47
Riddellhow does ubuntuone-statusnotifer start?11:47
apacheloggerkde autostart11:47
Riddellls: cannot access /usr/share/autostart/ubuntuone-kde.desktop: No such file or directory11:49
apacheloggerhm, maybe I did not package that11:50
CIA-33[ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100715105107-yo1u2w6jgte8801l * (3 files in 2 dirs) Add autostart desktop file to package ubuntuone-kde11:51
Riddellapachelogger: ubuntuone-statusnotifier will launch the sync daemon?11:52
Riddellthings fhfhfhf11:54
Riddellthings seem to be syncing now but statusnotifier still says its having a cup of tea11:54
apacheloggerpossibly enough I did not upload my work from yesterday11:55
apacheloggerRiddell: it will only display connected/notconnect/error/incompability in that version11:55
apacheloggerI only implemented the UI bits for up&download tracking yesterday11:56
Riddellso "sipping tea" means connected?11:56
CIA-33[ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100715105722-fyjluuxv1ch4mykt * debian/changelog New snapshot11:57
Riddellooh got a sad face on new login11:57
Riddelland connecting to network gets me back to sipping tea11:58
Riddellamusing as they are you might want to make those strings more serious :)11:58
apacheloggermeh :P11:58
Riddelldo I still need to touch .ubuntuone ?11:59
apacheloggerfor dolphin stuff, yes11:59
apacheloggerbut nothing changed there IIRC11:59
apacheloggerI am currently thinking about creating ubuntuone-share, which would hook up with akonadi to get a user's contacts so he can share stuff with them12:00
apacheloggerdolphin and the statusnotifier could then call ubuntuone-share "~/Ubuntu One/foobar" and -share would take care of the rest12:00
Riddellthat sound clever12:00
Riddellyou say dolphin 4.6 might be able to do more for ubuntu one with its plugins, does that mean Peter Penz is planning to make the necessary changes, or you does that need to be discussed with him?12:01
apacheloggerneeds to be discussed with him12:01
apacheloggeralso I need to repoke the owncloud people to get a complete picture of what we need to be able to do with that plugin api12:01
apacheloggerbut I think what is there for VCS support is already pretty much all you need (you can set overlays, add context menu entries, can notify about changes...)12:02
apacheloggerit is just too much assuming that the plugin is a VCS plugin :)12:03
Riddellapachelogger: where would you like to be at the end of the SoC period?12:09
apacheloggerreliable auth + reliable statusnotification + sensible configuration interface + detailed idea of what we need for dolphin12:10
apacheloggerthough frankely I would like to get the akonadi stuff done too ^^12:10
Riddellapachelogger: do you think you'd be able to get the auth changes needed upstream into ubuntuone?12:12
apacheloggerI didn't talk to them about my patch yet, but I suppose so since the changes are non-intrusive to the gnome side of things12:12
Riddellapachelogger: do you think the statusnotifier and the kcm would be good enough quality to put in the archive for 10.10?12:14
apacheloggerneeds some decent testing, but generally I very much think so12:15
apacheloggeralso, from what I have heared only a few people have gotten u1 to work sensibly on KDE in 10.04, so there is little to loose eitherway 12:16
Riddellworks for me :)12:17
Riddellso I think that's what I'd like to see done, reliable auth + reliable statusnotification + sensible configuration interface + detailed idea of what we need for dolphin + auth upstream + statusnotifier and kcm in 10.1012:18
Riddellakonadi integration is a good bonus of course12:18
Riddellanyway, half term questionnaire passed, congratulations12:19
CIA-33[ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100715115430-xs6g6gvbx0lj2xc1 * data/ (3 files) add larger icon sizes (for dolphin information panel), now that a link gets add to the places list the u1 icon will show up in the information panel which is rather large...12:55
apacheloggerhttp://imagebin.ca/view/LW_5X8CG.html <312:57
apacheloggeromg bug!13:05
apacheloggerbah, now vbox lost my snapshot :O13:17
* apachelogger is back to initial snapshot13:18
apacheloggerwho needs producitvity anyway if you can have virtualbox :S13:18
alapachelogger: right - http://i40.tinypic.com/v3ir84.png13:28
CIA-33[ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100715122702-jqm536hgi0dp259o * src/auth/ (AuthHandler.cpp AuthHandler.h) possible fix for possible crash - AuthHandler MUST NOT accept anything from AccessToken by const reference because AccessToken will be dead before AuthHandler is dead, hence there is potential for segfault13:28
Quintasanapachelogger: grr, can you help me stripping? Now even local build fails to strip dbg libs :/13:28
apacheloggeral: Oo is it serouis?13:28
alapachelogger: no, just took a minute or so ;)13:29
apacheloggerQuintasan: in your age one should be able to undress :P13:29
apacheloggeral: well, I am not sure that makes it better though ;)13:29
alapachelogger: it still worked13:29
apacheloggerwell, but that kind of approximation...13:30
apacheloggerQuintasan: mind handing me rules?13:30
apacheloggerQuintasan: also how do they fail?13:30
Quintasanthey do not fail13:30
Quintasanthey just generate 1,2kb package13:31
Quintasanno erros :S13:31
apacheloggerin that case rules + log13:31
apacheloggerjust wondering ... do you actually build Qt with debug stuff?13:32
Quintasan.configure says so13:32
Quintasanapachelogger: log -> http://pastebin.com/32Fhrd2X13:33
* apachelogger is really wondering why the statusnotifier refuses to acknowledge connection the very very first start13:34
Quintasanapachelogger: rules -> http://pastebin.com/VDPsLsYy13:34
QuintasanOH MY GOD13:37
Quintasanapachelogger: no cookies, no, no food for me for one week13:37
Quintasanapachelogger: wrong log13:38
Quintasanapachelogger: I have pasted you a log with override_dh_strip where I made a fkkn typo = --dgb-package13:38
Quintasanapachelogger: rules are good tho13:38
* Quintasan hits himself with b&hammer13:44
Quintasanomg boost in maverick is outdated?13:45
Quintasanoh, point release only13:45
* apachelogger is all french13:53
apacheloggerQuintasan: what does the log look like? :P13:54
Quintasanlet me fisrt connect to lp somehow13:55
Quintasandamned lp13:59
Quintasantimes oue13:59
Quintasanapachelogger: the LP build ->14:00
apacheloggerthat is not dh_verbose, is it?14:01
Quintasanwell, I have uncommented that in rules14:02
Quintasanblame LP for not letting me upload a newer revision :P14:02
Quintasanbut I'm sure VERBOSE was enabled for that build14:03
Quintasanapachelogger: and ffs, what should I use? override_dh_strip won't work in PPA for some unknown reason14:03
QuintasanI'm currently test-building Qt using override_dh_install or Riddel's computer14:04
apacheloggerfor starters I would be wondering what pkgs_dbg does14:04
apacheloggerwell then14:06
apacheloggerQuintasan: it would appear to me that you need to configure with -debug14:06
QuintasanI have -no-separate-debug-info14:07
Quintasanisn't that the same?14:07
apacheloggerif they were the same there would not be two switches, would there?14:07
apacheloggerStart in 13 hours (2505)14:08
apacheloggerwhat the dalek?!?!?!!??!14:08
QuintasanYou won't beat that14:08
QuintasanStart in two weeks.14:08
Quintasanapachelogger: and for dbg stripping, shall I override_dh_strip or dh $@ --dbg-package=project-neon-qt-dbg --parallel --with pkgkde_symbolshelper?14:10
apacheloggerthat dude on identi.ca whining14:11
* apachelogger wonders if he ever considered that maybe he is the problem and not kde ^^14:11
apacheloggerQuintasan: latter14:11
apacheloggerformer is ewwww14:11
Quintasankubotu: np14:11
kubotuQuintasan listened to "Emiya" by Haga Keita 9 minutes ago; -- see http://www.last.fm/user/Quintasan for more14:11
apacheloggerQuintasan: you know....14:11
apacheloggerI rewrote the rules14:11
apacheloggerback when I started neon14:12
apacheloggerI did not use Kubuntu rules14:12
apacheloggerI wrote my own14:12
apacheloggerthat said, I did try using Kubuntu rules14:12
apacheloggermajor PITA14:12
apachelogger+ you do not want to merge them all the time anyway14:12
QuintasanSo you are implying I should use your rules?14:13
apacheloggeri am implying that you should rwrite your own14:13
QuintasanI wanted just to override config and use dh714:13
apacheloggerinstead of reusing useless crapz0r14:13
apacheloggerline 13-24 are completely worthless for neon14:13
apacheloggerso is 26-3314:14
apacheloggerso is 35-4114:14
apacheloggerso is 43-5514:14
apachelogger--with pkgkde_symbolshelper is probably also usless14:14
Quintasanwgrant told me to use that when stripping in PPA14:15
apachelogger90 percent of the switches to configure are useless14:15
apacheloggerQuintasan: the symbolshelper?14:15
apacheloggerI wonder what for14:15
apacheloggerso leave that in14:15
apacheloggeror rather14:15
apacheloggerrewrite the file with the symbolshelper :P14:15
apacheloggerall of clean is for bonkers because neon does not do build-clean-build14:15
apacheloggerQuintasan: from that identica dude "yeah, !gentoo - with #kernel 2.6.34 and #xfs filesystem my system responsiveness seems much improved"14:17
apacheloggerI declare that rant settled 14:17
apacheloggerwell that whole combo 14:18
apacheloggergentoo + kernel 2.6.34 + xfs14:18
apacheloggerno wonder the files wind up empty14:19
apacheloggerprobably xfs is caching for too long14:19
apacheloggerresulting in empty file on disk14:19
Quintasan.PHONY -> what was that doing?14:19
apacheloggeror xfs eats them altogether14:19
QuintasanXFS is shit to begin with14:19
apacheloggerQuintasan: you are not serious, are you?14:19
QuintasanI'm not, just trolling14:19
apacheloggernot regarding XFS14:19
QuintasanDo I really have to add <irony> ? :P14:19
QuintasanSo, let me rephrase that14:20
Quintasan<troll>.PHONY -> what was that doing?</troll>14:20
yofelbtw, why do you need a custom qt build again?14:20
yofelJulian wants to know that... https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/soyuz/+question/11776214:20
apacheloggercause supremacy demands custom Qt14:20
Quintasanyofel: because we do not want to mess with stable installation of Qt?14:21
apacheloggeryofel: even without Qt you cannot squeeze neon into a ppa14:21
yofelQuintasan: makes sense... 14:21
* yofel puts his head under cold water, too hot to think clearly here...14:21
apacheloggerin the PPA default size you probably can squeeze kdelibs + debugging && kdesupport + debugging  and then you are all filled up14:22
JontheEchidnastringies frozen for Muon and QApt Batch14:23
JontheEchidnatiem for API review14:24
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: is the proper ester egg in yet?14:27
Quintasanapachelogger: Well, for .PHONY, it confuses me with current rules. .PHONY: override_dh_auto_test  ->> override_dh_auto_test is called everytime target is rebuild, right? the override is not declared anywhere so it does nothing? I can't get those damned overrides straight up14:27
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: nope, but it's not l10n-able due to monospace cow14:27
jussimaverick is evil! evil I tells you!14:28
apacheloggerQuintasan: ehm, possibly the override is in the symbolshelper14:28
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: it will be done, though14:28
Quintasanapachelogger: Are you implying that there is a trollface somewhere within Muon?14:28
* apachelogger did not look at that code like ever14:28
apacheloggerQuintasan: no14:28
Quintasanwell, I'll leave it for now14:28
apacheloggerjussi: yes14:28
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: maybe14:28
apacheloggeroh, that was no question14:28
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: indeed!14:28
jussiapachelogger: I cant even get it to boot currently14:28
jussiits stopping at "checkin battery state" on a desktop...14:29
apacheloggerwell, obviously it would stop...14:29
apacheloggera desktop doesnt have no battery14:29
apacheloggerwell, not the kind it is checking anyway14:29
Quintasanhmm, anyone here tried connecting PC to a HD TV?14:30
jussiyes, my point exactly14:30
QuintasanI can't get X to start, serial console works fine though14:30
jussiQuintasan: curious,14:31
jussi.I hate you maverick :(14:31
apacheloggerjussi: so what is the problem? :P14:31
apacheloggerit is behaving exactly as we both expect it to behave14:31
jussiapachelogger: i really dnt now. it doesnt boot. when it stops, the last thing is "checking battery state"14:32
apacheloggeryes, but we just agreed that stopping there is appropriate because desktops have no batter? :P14:32
jussiapachelogger: no. 14:32
jussiapachelogger: it should heck that, then move on14:32
apacheloggerbut there is no battery!14:33
apacheloggerthat is a problem, is it not?14:33
apacheloggerjussi: maybe you should boot into recovery and upgrade14:33
apacheloggermaybe it halps14:34
jussiapachelogger: I dont seem to have a grub... ie. it doesnt show me anything. is the sorme key I need to press?14:34
apacheloggerjussi: any key14:34
yofeljussi: hold left shift pressed (IIRC)14:34
apacheloggeror maybe shifty ^^14:35
* apachelogger rebuilds ubuntuone-kde locally because lp is so sluggish14:35
jussinope, left shift doesnt help14:36
Quintasanapachelogger: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~neon/project-neon/qt-ubuntu/annotate/head:/rules14:37
Quintasanwhat do you think?14:37
yofeljussi: odd... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Boot%20Display%20Behavior14:37
* jussi tries again14:38
altry holding it all the way from the POST to either grub or the kernel appears14:39
algrub evaluates the key press state two different times14:39
apacheloggerQuintasan: what is export QT_PLUGIN_PATH := $(QTDIR)/plugins for?14:40
apachelogger$(extra_configure_opts) is missing for the configure switches14:41
jussinope, nthing. held from expressgate not installed message right through to spash14:41
apacheloggerlooking good otherwise14:41
aljussi: just remove the "if keystatus" stuff from grub.cfg then and make sure you have a timeout >0 set?14:42
Quintasanshould I export that as well?14:42
jussial: I cant get into the os... guess Ill have to live cd in...14:43
apacheloggerQuintasan: maybe, cant hurt I suppose14:43
Quintasanapachelogger: well, I do not give a damn about extra options to configure14:43
apacheloggerof course they could implicity define important stuff14:44
Quintasanthey could?14:44
apacheloggerand then your build will fail because those important things are missing14:44
Quintasanso why the hell they are called EXTRA?14:44
jussione tty works... just one14:45
* jussi logs in and upgrades14:45
apacheloggerRiddell: do you think presence of ~/Ubuntu One should be condition for autostarting?14:47
txwikingerapachelogger: Is there a configuration to switch it off?14:51
apacheloggertxwikinger: switch off what?14:52
txwikingerI don't want it then14:53
Riddellapachelogger: only if there's a way for a user to create that (e.g. through the kcontrol module)14:53
* txwikinger hates things he cannot switch off14:53
apacheloggerRiddell: well, it will be created once the user manually started u114:53
apacheloggertxwikinger: swtich off == sudo dpkg -r ubuntuone-kde :P14:54
txwikingerWhat about a conf file inside the directory which has a status for autostart which can be configured by a Kcontrol module?14:54
Riddellapachelogger: how doe the user tdoi that?14:55
txwikingerapachelogger: Not satisfactory14:55
apacheloggerRiddell: menu -> utils -> ubuntuone14:55
Riddellapachelogger: that seems fine then14:55
Riddellapachelogger: although an enable/disable option in system settings also seems good14:56
txwikingerwell.. I might want to run ubuntu one only when I am at home, but not when I am in a linuxcafe14:56
apacheloggerI am wondering how klipper does that14:56
jussisoooo... uprade didnt help14:56
txwikingerwhy would I remove and re-install it all the time14:56
apacheloggerRiddell: I wonder if we can abuse that somehow ...14:58
apacheloggeruh uh14:59
apacheloggerat first manual start set to true15:00
apacheloggerupon manual quit we could ask the user whether autostart should be disconntinued (as seen in klipper)15:00
apacheloggerin the KCM we can easily read the value and provide a checkbox15:00
apachelogger(I might add that a checkbox of that kind in the KCM might seem a bit disconnected because everything else is either u1 cloud information or control of the syncdaemon :S)15:01
shadeslayerseems im allergic to headphones :S15:05
shadeslayerbroke my second pair this week15:05
CIA-33[ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100715141906-ajrih1c6e89ynwyx * src/statusnotifier/Main.cpp Change app name to ubuntuone ... not sure if I like this though...15:19
CIA-33[ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100715142055-lfxeb2nk8hxe6whs * src/statusnotifier/Main.cpp warning++15:21
CIA-33[ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100715142149-m5e2q2lbhz4a6l8t * src/statusnotifier/Application.cpp set autostart to true on startup ... do we want that only at first start?15:22
shadeslayerapachelogger: ive found about 6 FTBFS rebuilds ... all docbook issues15:23
CIA-33[ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100715142212-pbx76p1v0w665lky * src/statusnotifier/ubuntuone-kde.desktop Move autostart to stage + after plasma-desktop + make conditional to autostart being true in the config to make txwikinger a faithful u1 user15:23
* shadeslayer 's message is lost in long line of commits by apachelogger15:24
apacheloggerless talking more comitting!15:24
shadeslayerapachelogger: :P15:24
* shadeslayer has started to read muon kode as well...15:24
apacheloggerkubotu: join #project-neon15:30
apacheloggerkubotu: say #project-neon Roran: hi15:31
kuboture, apachelogger15:31
apacheloggerkubotu: part #project-neon15:31
Quintasanapachelogger: :PP15:31
apacheloggerI does not care15:32
Quintasanapachelogger and his dirty hacks15:36
Quintasanbrrrrrrr >_<15:36
apacheloggerhuck huck15:36
MamarokQuintasan: you should see his clean hacks...15:39
shadeslayerkdepim for lucid finally started building :S15:41
shadeslayerRiddell: bug 59517315:42
ubottuLaunchpad bug 595173 in linphone (Ubuntu) "[MIR] linphone" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/59517315:42
apachelogger-don't blink-15:48
* shadeslayer removes qtcreator and compiles from git15:48
* txwikinger wonders if he will be famous now since apachelogger uses him in CIA comments :) 15:52
CIA-33[ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100715145227-bny6zbu30sqcj3sv * src/statusnotifier/ (StatusNotifier.cpp StatusNotifier.h) ask user on exit whether to autostart or not15:52
CIA-33[ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100715145304-z2ih3eidr47m7p7n * (debian/changelog src/statusnotifier/StatusNotifier.cpp) Snapshot15:53
apacheloggerI do hate bzr so very very much15:53
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Quintasanapachelogger: git++15:56
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: lol... muon in ninja ppa is fail16:00
JontheEchidnayes, I knew that'd happen16:00
Quintasanwtf, apachelogger ur protip about rules borked my build :S16:00
apacheloggeryah sure :P16:00
CIA-33[muon] jmthomas * 1150277 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/ (CMakeLists.txt MainWindow.cpp moo.ogg) Moo!16:02
yofeloh nice :D16:02
apacheloggerisnt it a real beauty16:15
CIA-33[ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100715152015-5d0rmlpyg4ia3dqw * src/kcmodule/ (Module.cpp Module.ui) kcm support for autostart configuration16:20
steveireI've finally updated from 9:04 to 10:04. My dual monitor setup doesn't work anymore. My second monitor is black16:22
Riddellsteveire: tried the Display module in system settings?16:24
steveireIt says something along the lines of that the module is only for configuring dual monitor setups, which I don't appear to have16:25
steveireSo I guess the message is wrong, but I don't know what should tell it that I have two monitors16:25
steveire"This module is only for configuring systems with a single desktop spread across multiple monitors. You do not appear to have this configuration."16:27
steveireIt's a clean install, so I have only started installing stuff on it now16:27
steveireI don't have the closed nvidia driver on it yet. Was hoping to try the free one, because I've had a lot of problems with the closed one.16:28
steveireI seem to have some nouveau stuff installed.16:28
steveireThis page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia says that the nvidia driver supports dual head. Does that mean the nuoveau driver does not? Is 'dual-head' the jargon version of 'multiple monitors showing one workspace'?16:38
Riddellsteveire: I fear we know rather less about X than is useful to you, I just use intel with only one monitor16:41
Riddell#ubuntu-x is where the X people hang out, or there's the usual user support channels of #kubuntu and #ubuntu16:41
steveireI'll try #ubuntu-x16:41
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: omg.. muon displays warning for un authenticated packages...17:41
ulyssesshadeslayer: same was here, I updated the software sources again, and the message disappeared17:41
shadeslayerulysses: i was praising muon.. i do have one not authenticated source repo :D17:42
shadeslayeromg... examples are back in qtcreator :D17:43
shadeslayeralso.. lex79++17:43
shadeslayerRiddell: around?18:05
shadeslayeruh.. anyone else have access to kubuntu.org?18:05
shadeslayer( as in ability to create posts )18:05
shadeslayer!info libgrantlee-dev lucid18:07
ubottuPackage libgrantlee-dev does not exist in lucid18:07
JontheEchidna!info libgrantlee-dev maverick18:09
ubottulibgrantlee-dev (source: grantlee): plugin-based string template library for Qt - development headers. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.1.2-0ubuntu1 (maverick), package size 26 kB, installed size 224 kB18:09
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: big problem18:10
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: the ninja ppa does not depend on backports ( lucid ) which has grantlee18:10
shadeslayerhence we cannot build kdepim for lucid :S18:11
JontheEchidnaso... backport grantlee to lucid?18:11
shadeslayerits already bacported18:11
JontheEchidnaso, just upload it to ninjas?18:11
shadeslayerthe PPA doesnt depend on backports18:11
shadeslayeralso.. grantlee has 1.2 release.. which one do i upload? 1.1 or 1.2?18:11
JontheEchidnawhich do you think you should?18:12
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: well.. kdepim for maverick builds with 1.218:13
shadeslayerhavent tried 1.1 to build kdepim18:13
shadeslayermight fail for all i know18:13
JontheEchidnamight as well go with the latest if it works18:14
shadeslayerk.. backporting then18:14
ScottKhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/464154/ <--- rekonq or qtwebkit?19:00
* shadeslayer tries to se19:05
shadeslayerScottK: i think webkit + thread weaver.. not entirely sure19:06
shadeslayeralso.. flash :D19:06
ScottKOK.  That's rekonq dieing almost immediately.19:06
shadeslayeryeah.. happens to me too :S19:06
* shadeslayer is wating on grantlee to be published19:07
shadeslayeroh oh.. im going to reinstall kubuntu tonight.. anything need testing?19:08
shadeslayeroh gawd......19:09
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: btw ive started working on your open with request... studying code for that19:10
shadeslayerlets see how far i get :D19:10
JontheEchidnayay, dr konqi works with the latest kernel19:27
* shadeslayer hasnt tested yet19:28
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: damn.. i cant make muon krash :S19:28
JontheEchidnakillall muon --signal SEGV, if you really want to :P19:28
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: i mean actual crash19:30
JontheEchidnafound a bug: http://simplest-image-hosting.net/i0-plasma-desktopcq1487-jpg.jpg19:32
JontheEchidnathose are editable, it seems19:32
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: see http://imagebin.ca/view/PFXc0ADp.html19:32
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: yeah confirmed19:33
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: you havent see half of it yet :S19:33
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: http://imagebin.ca/view/KveFTeVp.html19:33
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: btw you requested the Open With >  stuff right?19:37
JontheEchidnafor rekonq?19:37
CIA-33[muon] jmthomas * 1150347 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/FilterWidget.cpp Do not allow the text of our QStandardItems to be edited19:38
JontheEchidnaI seem to remember something like that19:38
ScottKJontheEchidna: You can thank kees for getting Dr. Konqi workin with the new security features.19:38
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: ok... im working on it...19:38
shadeslayerbrr.. how do i make a app krash :19:41
shadeslayeruh.. ScottK when did kaffeine enter kubuntu-desktop ? : http://pastebin.com/80GTh5wD19:42
ScottKshadeslayer: Riddell added it yesterday.19:43
shadeslayerScottK: ah.. default player for maverick?19:43
JontheEchidnashadeslayer: open up any page with flash in rekonq19:43
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: it does crash but Dr. Konki fails to pop up :D19:43
JontheEchidnapops up here19:43
ScottKHere too19:46
shadeslayer0.5 release?19:47
shadeslayerim on git...19:49
JontheEchidnaalso, does search not work with the regular python-apt packagekit backend for anyone else?19:50
JontheEchidnain maverick19:50
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: yeah.. kpk is fail for searching19:50
JontheEchidnaI mean, does anything show up at all?19:50
JontheEchidnaaptcc backend works fine19:51
JontheEchidnabut it's not default19:51
shadeslayerbtw.. who retried kdepim?19:51
shadeslayerfor lucid19:52
QuintasanRiddell: did it move again or it is just my connection acting up?20:02
Quintasanby it I mean your computer20:02
danttiJontheEchidna: it's fun is you search for KDE (uppercased) it gives you nothing :P20:04
JontheEchidnapython-apt backend gives me no results for anything20:05
Quintasandantti: what dares yielding nothing when searching for kde?20:05
JontheEchidnawe should just switch to aptcc already :P20:05
QuintasanJontheEchidna: >python20:05
QuintasanWhat were you expecting sir?20:06
danttiQuintasan: lots of packages20:06
Quintasandantti: python == shit == tons of problems20:06
danttisame as aptitude search KDE20:06
Quintasan+ crappy unicode support20:06
danttiQuintasan: sure20:06
danttithat's why i wrote aptcc :P20:06
Quintasandantti: I get tons of results with aptitude search KDE20:07
danttiyes but python apt is case sensitive20:07
QuintasanWell, that's python for you20:09
danttiin a few weeks I'll have time to add debconf to kpk then i hope they change the default backend to aptcc20:10
danttihave to leave now.. cya20:10
neversfeldeRiddell: still waiting for koffice building in my ppa, sorry for the delay20:50
JontheEchidnaneversfelde: there was a 48 hour queue on the PPA builders a day and a half ago, so I'm not surprised :(20:51
neversfeldeJontheEchidna: yes, I read about the problems20:52
JontheEchidnatime to go home, bbl20:59
JontheEchidnaoh, before I forget. Anybody have time for a revu? http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/qapt20:59
shadeslayernixternal: poke21:22
shadeslayerno ones around... :S21:23
shadeslayerok.. NEWS : KDE PIM Beta 1 packages being copied to kubuntu experimental PPA 21:24
shadeslayerfor lucid and maverick21:24
shadeslayerRiddell: ^^21:25
Riddellshadeslayer: cool, can you e-mail kubuntu-devel to say they're there but should only be used if you don't care about your e-mail being lost21:27
shadeslayersure sure21:28
shadeslayerRiddell: also.. it seems pretty usable atm for me ( TM )21:28
shadeslayerRiddell: mail sent21:36
nixternalshadeslayer: yo yo21:37
shadeslayernixternal: can we make a announcement on kubuntu.org about kdepim packages?21:38
shadeslayerRiddell: ^^21:38
shadeslayernixternal: refer my mail to kubuntu-devel21:38
nixternalI don't have access..that is a Riddell thing21:38
nixternal<- nobody21:39
shadeslayerhehe :P21:39
shadeslayernixternal: also.. 6 other packages have docbook issues :S21:39
shadeslayerrdieter: ^^21:39
shadeslayerRiddell: also.. im nuking arch ..21:40
* shadeslayer will secretly install a unspecified KDE distro on top of it21:40
sheytanoh, not here :D21:43
sheytansorry :D21:43
shadeslayersheytan: ??21:44
sheytanshadeslayer, not this channel :D21:44
ScottKshadeslayer: I'd say not on kubuntu.org for the KDEpim stuff.  Too experimental.21:46
shadeslayerScottK: hmm.. i really thinkg theyre good,but i guess thats just my opinion21:47
Riddellshadeslayer: I'd rather not announce it on kubuntu.org, it means people will use it no matter what warnings we put21:53
shadeslayerRiddell: ok21:54
* shadeslayer remembers when qt 4.7 beta packages were announced21:54
steveire_kdepim45 is far more experiemental than qt 47 beta :)22:02
shadeslayerJontheEchidna: around?22:35
shadeslayeromg.. i can actually understand all of the stuff on qt docs.. :D23:15
eMyllershadeslayer: i'll be like that when i grow up :)23:34
shadeslayereMyller: how old are you?23:34
* eMyller is a web dev that sucked last time he tried cpp+qt23:34
eMyllershadeslayer: heh, i'm not a kid. 'when i grow up' is just a way to say i'll be better :)23:35
shadeslayerah :P23:35
eMyllerbrazil stuff.23:35
shadeslayeri guess.. my mind cant really multitask at 4 AM23:36
Quintasanshadeslayer: your mind needs training then23:36
eMyllerheh, i know exaclty how it feels... ×.×23:36
shadeslayerQuintasan: lol :P23:36
shadeslayerQuintasan: multitask as in,i can take on 2 tasks,but not more23:37
eMylleri'm used to work at dawn instead of daylight nowadays. it's great when you don't have people that wake you up to get on business at morning. ¬¬23:37
QuintasanIt is great to work at night because noone disturbs me23:38
shadeslayerQuintasan: yeah23:38
Quintasan"Hey sweetie, wash the dishes after dinner"23:38
shadeslayerbut the only issue is that i have to share rooms with my sister.. who is currently sleeping in this room...23:38
shadeslayerapachelogger: i have started to see the beauty of Qt23:39
shadeslayerlayouts can be nested and you can add all sorts of widgets to each  of the nested layouts... so elegant :D23:39
Quintasannested layout is nested23:40
Quintasanshadeslayer: you just started Qt?23:40
shadeslayerQuintasan: yeah23:40
shadeslayerjust as in,i did the widget tutorial some days back23:40
Quintasanwell, I wrote QTrollface soon after tutorials23:41
shadeslayernow doing the address book stuff23:41

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