[00:16] <James147> eMyller: possibally a desktop effect called "zoom"?
[00:17] <eMyller> James147: nope, that up to X
[00:17] <eMyller> desktop effects aren't enabled (and even can't in that graphic card)
[00:18] <James147> eMyller: then you need to say what graphics drivers you are using
[00:19] <eMyller> will check, sec
[00:20] <eMyller> James147: aw, that's a SiS
[00:20] <eMyller> 771/671
[02:33] <eMyller> James147: i got that working
[02:34] <James147> eMyller: :)
[02:34] <eMyller> just needed to install sis drivers.
[02:34] <eMyller> thanks :)
[03:53] <cato37> i am confused about samba. the network that i need to connect is not on the internet. it is a home system with several computers. what do i need to install from apt-get for samba
[03:53] <cato37> ?
[03:58] <James147> cato37: connecting to a samba share I beleave you dont need to install anything extra (could be wrong) for sharing folder you need the "samba" package (install it anyway just to be sure)
[03:58] <cato37> James147: thanx.
[04:00] <James147> cato37: note that there is not good gui for creating samba shares (might be one, not sure how well it works) atm in kde :( I think its being worked on and planed for the next vresion
[04:02] <cato37> James147: k. bash reads samba installed manually.
[04:04] <James147> cato37: then all should be good :)
[04:09] <cato37> James147: you are a great help, here. thank you.
[04:44] <demism> For some reason my default character encoding on mozilla is western, but pages i visit are showing up as UTF-8 and so I get all the funny characters... is there a way to change this permanently so that I don't have to change it? Does it have to do with my LANG variable being US_en.UTF8?
[05:01] <dorian> Anyone use konqueror?
[05:03] <ussher_> dorian: yep, konqueror rocks
[05:04] <dorian> But it looks like IE6 and it runs really slow
[05:05] <ussher_> Best FTP client i have ever used.
[05:05] <dorian> yeah
[05:05] <ussher_> not sure why dolphin became the default file browser.  I prefer konqueror
[05:06] <ussher_> if you do ctrl+shift+l  then you can copy files to the server like your copying on your local machine
[05:06] <dorian> I think dolphin has more features
[05:06] <dorian> KHTML is a great invent,but now it seems webkit is better
[05:06] <ussher_> and use kate and you can edit them from there too.  makes the remote server feel like your local machine
[05:07] <ussher_> i havent used khtml or webkit sorry
[05:07] <dorian> KHTML is the engine of konqueror
[05:08] <dorian> and webkit is based on KHTML and used by safari and chrome
[05:08] <dorian> here is a test page of javascript runtime http://wd-testnet.world-direct.at/mozilla/dhtml/funo/jsTimeTest.htm
[05:08] <ussher_> too technical for me.  are you talking about the base that the browsers are built off?
[05:08] <dorian> Chrome just use 17ms
[05:09] <ussher_> I use Firefox for a browser and konqueror for a file manager.
[05:09] <dorian> Konqueror is about 444ms
[05:10] <dorian> Yup,konqueror is a great file manager
[05:11] <ussher_> cant say i use it much for a browser.   i just ran "run all tests" in FF an Konq and they were 149ms and 143ms from here
[05:12] <ussher_> not that i know what that means though
[05:14] <dorian> Maybe your computer is better^-^
[05:15] <dorian> That are some functions used in browser
[05:16] <ussher_> not sure.  cant say javascript runtimes are something i have ever thought about before.  it runs and takes as long as it takes.  I have heard that chrome is fast though.
[05:17] <dorian> So I think konqueror should be a file manager not a browser as it's speed
[05:29] <rodrox> Why konqueror has 89/100 in the acid test?
[05:31] <rodrox> http://acid3.acidtests.org/
[05:36] <dorian> 100/100 ，chrome gets
[05:37] <rodrox> someone knows about this issue?
[05:43] <chx> hi. how can i change the icon that appears besides an application in Alt+F4? qmpp and konversation are too similar.
[05:47] <rodrox> acid test
[05:47] <rodrox> bye
[06:50] <noaXess> good morning.
[07:44] <noaXess> whats the simplest way to complete remove kubuntu-desltop and all kde apps/lib's?
[07:52] <genii> !puregnome
[07:53] <genii> Hm. Pricechild seems to have removed it
[07:55] <noaXess> !purge
[07:55] <noaXess> !purgekde
[07:55] <noaXess> hm...
[07:56] <genii> noaXess: The old !puregnome factoid guided the user to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureGnome  for what it might be worth to you
[07:57] <noaXess> genii: but this command sudo aptitude remove kubuntu-desktop just uninstall this single package
[07:58] <genii> noaXess: "kubuntu-desktop" is a meta package. Which means it's just a name for a collection of other actual packages like kdelibs and so on
[07:58] <noaXess> think i need go trought the manual way
[08:13] <Alazare> hey can someone help me im having a problem configuring nview seperate screens under kde
[08:13] <Alazare> just removed gnome
[08:29] <Alazare> anyone have an idea why seperate x monitor doesnt work and yet twinview does
[09:20] <Rogasch> Hi, i have a question about CouchDB, i tried to save severel Contacts via Evolution. Well i didnt work at all because my CouchDB has no Tables. Do i have to create them by my self?
[09:27] <Rogasch> no one can help :(
[09:42] <jussi> Rogasch: Im not sure if there is a couchdb specific channel, but the lads in #ubuntuone probably know hwere to point you.
[09:46] <Rogasch> @jussi thanks
[10:01] <ussher_> Alazare: i use the arandr package from gnome to set up my dual monitors.  works great until a kde alternative comes around
[10:21] <AciD> hi
[10:22] <AciD> somehow, I don't have any icons in any kde apps menu. I'm using lucid with kde 4.4.2 and the oxygen theme (air). Is there an option I missed somewhere to activate those icons in menus ?
[10:25] <Mamarok> AciD: make sure you have all oygen-them packages installed, they splitted the package for space reasons on the CD
[10:25] <Mamarok> oxygen-theme*
[10:26] <AciD> I have openoffice.org-style-oxygen, oxygen-cursor-theme, oxygen-icon-theme and oxygen-icon-theme-complete
[10:26] <Mamarok> oxygen-iocn-theme I meant
[10:27] <gunsofbrixton> hi, where do I specify my email signature in kmail?
[10:27] <Mamarok> ham, the colete is installed? Then I don't know
[10:27] <Mamarok> gunsofbrixton: in the signature tab, check the tabs on top when you configure your account
[10:28] <AciD> colete ? anyway, it looks like i have all the oxygen-icon-theme installed. Still, no icons in any kde apps menu :(
[10:28] <AciD> i'll try to change to another icon theme, just to see if it comes from oxygen
[10:28] <gunsofbrixton> Mamarok: hmm wait, I go to settings->configure kmail->accounts?
[10:30] <Mamarok> yes
[10:31] <AciD> it doesn't seem to change anything, still no icons in menu
[10:31] <gunsofbrixton> aahh it's under identities... got it
[10:33] <Mamarok> yes, sorry, I told from memory and don't go there very often
[10:33] <Mamarok> AciD: try reinstalling those packages, maybe that helps (do not remove them, just force a reinstallation)
[10:34] <AciD> will do
[10:40] <AciD> still no icons, should i restart kde though ?
[10:40] <Mamarok> AciD: yes, try logging out and in again
[10:59] <bb_> Hi - i need some tip for updateing to 4.5 rc 2. After adding the repos, aptitude gives me some output which I do not know how to handle. You can find it here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/463949/ - I really would appreciate some help on that issue. Thx!
[11:02] <fairy> hi there everyone I'm new to kubuntu and i need help
[11:04] <bb_> The problem seems to be the package libqt4-assistant - do I need that for anything? Is it save to remove it?
[11:05] <fairy> hiii
[11:08] <bb_> hm - even when I say no to aptitude dist-upgrade the suggestions do not seem to get any better. Dont think it is helpfull to remove kdm or kubuntu-desktop... ;)
[11:09] <bb_> and my kontact in the current version is soooo broken - it keeps crashing and I really hope to get that fixed with an update to 4.5 RC2
[11:26] <blain> bb_ you can install the 4.5rc2 already but there's is always risk involved in unfinished packages
[11:27] <tdn> What program do you recommend for designing pgsql databases? Right now, I am evaluating DbWrench. It is ok. I can create tables/foreign keys/etc in a diagram view and then generate DDL for creating the table in PG. But it is, unfortuneately, non-free. Can you recommend something that is easy to use and FOSS?
[11:28] <blain> non-free or not open source?
[11:28] <bb_> blain: thx - I know - I just would like / hope to get a tipp of how to actually get the update working, as the feedback from aptitude is rather scary atm
[11:28] <blain> use apt-get
[11:29] <blain> and see the outcome, it will tell how what will be done
[11:31] <gorgonizer> bb_: you will need need to do a full upgrade, such as   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:32] <blain> exactly
[11:32] <bb_> gorgonizer: I know - take a look at http://paste.ubuntu.com/463949/ to see the problems I have with that
[11:33] <bb_> you find the output of either aptitude save-upgrade as well the one from aptitude dist-upgrade there
[11:33]  * blain omg german. why do people don't use english
[11:34] <blain> bb_ give me the output of apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:34] <bb_> blain: sec
[11:34] <gorgonizer> bb_: you will need to remove libqt4-assisstant..
[11:34] <bb_> gorgonizer: I think so too - but is that save? Dont i need that for anything?
[11:34] <gorgonizer> if that is the only package that is blocking the update (as I have limited understanding of German) then you should be okay to proceed..
[11:35] <gorgonizer> bb_: I am running KDE SC 4.5 RC 2, and I don't have libqt4-assisstant installed, I guess it was removed during one of my various upgrades to 4.5..
[11:35] <blain> bb_ if you need it, apt-et will tell you
[11:35] <bb_> gorgonizer: ok I will try
[11:36] <bb_> blain: the output of apt-get dist-upgrade is basically the same as for aptitude dist-upgrade in previous pastebin link
[11:37] <blain> as i said, i really cant read german to help ya
[11:37] <gorgonizer> bb_: there are a number of packages that, whilst required for KDE SC 4.4, have been removed (or renamed) for KDE SC 4.5...
[11:37] <blain> but if gorgonizer got it then follow his advice
[11:37] <bb_> blain: apt-get output is german too
[11:38] <bb_> gorgonizer: seem that I am not able to remove libqt4-assistant without a lot of bad things to follow
[11:39] <bb_> gorgonizer: see here http://paste.ubuntu.com/463967/
[11:41] <gorgonizer> bb_: so it wants to remove those other packages as well?  If you do it as part of the dist-upgrade, it shouldn't remove those other packages..I still have ubufox and usb-creator-kde installed..
[11:41] <Mamarok> gorgonizer: you probably upgrade to Qt 4.7, libqt4-assistant is a 4.6.3 app
[11:42] <Mamarok> upgraded*
[11:42] <bb_> gorgonizer, Mamarok: so what should I do?
[11:42] <gorgonizer> Mamarok: good point, forgot that I had updated QT as well... cheers for the reminder..
[11:42] <Mamarok> gorgonizer: it's Qt, not QT = Quick Time
[11:42] <Mamarok> bb, let me read the backlog, don't know your problem yet
[11:43] <gorgonizer> Mamarok: apologies, still asleep, my Shift key release is not up to scratch yet :)
[11:43] <Mamarok> gorgonizer: np :)
[11:44] <Mamarok> bb_: are you sure you have your sources.list update correctly?
[11:44] <Mamarok> updated*
[11:45] <Mamarok> bb_: normally you should be able to do apt-get dist-upgrade without problems
[11:45] <Mamarok> if you don't want to upgrade to Qt 4.7, you need to deselect it, else libqt4-assistant will be removed
[11:46] <bb_> Mamarok: this is my sources.list: http://paste.ubuntu.com/463971/
[11:46] <Mamarok> bb_: so maybe upgrading in kpackagekit or synaptic and selecting/deselecting manually the Qt 4.7 packages is a solution
[11:47] <bb_> wouldnt mind to upgrade to Qt 4.7 :)
[11:47] <Mamarok> bb_: you should also add the default kubuntu ppa, not only the beta, there have been a lot of updates in there, too
[11:47] <bb_> Mamarok: which is?
[11:48] <Mamarok> bb_: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu lucid main
[11:48] <Mamarok> that one
[11:49] <Mamarok> add this line to your sources list, and the updates PPA is worth it, too, especially if you want to run the beta stuff
[11:49] <Mamarok> which is this line: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/updates/ubuntu lucid main
[11:50] <Mamarok> bb_: but be careful with beta updates, you should really check where the updates come from in the future
[11:50] <bb_> Mamarok: no updates available when adding that to sources.list and removing the beta repro
[11:50] <bb_> Mamarok: yeah i know - I do all on my own risk (TM)
[11:50] <Mamarok> bb_: I did't tell you to remove the beta repo
[11:50] <Mamarok> I told you to add two other repos
[11:51] <bb_> Mamarok: though I do that step by step
[11:51] <bb_> Mamarok: two?
[11:51] <Mamarok> no use now, since you already have the packages downloaded
[11:51] <Mamarok> read what I wrote above
[11:51] <josh-N> Anyone here experienced with Akonadi errors? I pasted a log at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/BcDbYdph but i don't really get what's wrong.
[11:53] <bb_> Mamarok: ok, I try the deselction of Qt 4.7 if I find that as problem stays the same with both repros on
[11:53] <Mamarok> josh-N: either there is already a running MySQL server instance or you miss some packages
[11:53] <Mamarok> bb_: well, it works fine here, you don't need libqt4-assistant, don't you?
[11:53] <bb_> Mamarok: wouldnt know what for
[11:54] <Mamarok> bb_: well, then proceed with update, then dist-upgrade
[11:54] <Mamarok> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:55] <slow-motion> hi
[11:55] <Mamarok> and of course it will remove a lot of packages that have change or are obsolete now
[11:55] <ionut> whi when i want to transfer images with pidgin, it doesn't work anymore
[11:55] <Mamarok> changed*
[11:55] <ionut> ?
[11:55] <josh-N> Mamarok: there is a mysql server running... but it shouldn't be using the same files, since it's just for a testing environment with apache/php
[11:55] <bb_> Mamarok: i am a little confused now :(
[11:55] <Mamarok> ionut: that was not for you
[11:55] <ionut> Mamarok: ok ok
[11:55] <Mamarok> josh-N: well, you can't run two servers side by side
[11:56] <ionut> whi when i want to transfer images with pidgin, it doesn't work anymore ?
[11:56] <bb_> Mamarok: dist-upgrade offers me a couple of solutions
[11:56] <bb_> Mamarok: can you read german?
[11:56] <Mamarok> bb_: yes, pastebin it, please
[11:57] <Mamarok> josh-N: disable the other instance and try again, then try restarting the other one
[11:57] <Mamarok> maybe it's a question of priorities
[11:58] <josh-N> Mamarok: thanks... the other mysql is being started at system boot, it's a LAMP configuration... can't akonadi just use the existing server?
[11:59] <Mamarok> it should, maybe check for missing akonadi packages?
[11:59] <bb_> Mamarok: http://paste.ubuntu.com/463979/
[12:00] <josh-N> Mamarok: I usually keep everything up to date. How would i check for missing Akonadi packages? (sorry if that's a stupid question)
[12:00] <bb_> Mamarok: aptitude offers different solutions when pressing "n" - so I put the first couple in the output
[12:00] <Mamarok> josh-N: apt-cache search akonadi
[12:01] <Mamarok> it tells you what is installed
[12:01] <Mamarok> bb_: too many options, did you try sudo apt-get install -f ?
[12:02] <bb_> Mamarok: no - should I?
[12:02] <Mamarok> bb_: yes, that was a suggestion :)
[12:02] <josh-N> Mamarok: anything i should compare that list to?
[12:02] <bb_> Mamarok: basically says "137 nicht aktualisiert"
[12:02] <bb_> Mamarok: thats it
[12:02] <Mamarok> josh-N: no, just check if there are akonadi packages that are not installed (unless those are -dev)
[12:03] <Mamarok> bb_: try reinstalling the libqt4-install package
[12:04] <bb_> Mamarok: remove then install?
[12:05] <Mamarok> bb_: no, if you can remove it without it removing half of KDE then do so,  no need to reinstall it then
[12:05] <Mamarok> but first pastebin the respult if you try to remove it
[12:05] <Mamarok> result* sorry
[12:05] <bb_> Mamarok: it is not installed
[12:06] <bb_> Mamarok: http://paste.ubuntu.com/463981/
[12:08] <josh-N> Mamarok: when i look in "system settings - software", there are several akonadi related packages that are not installed, but most look optional (e.g. Akonadi Ruby bindings)... how do i know what i really need?
[12:08] <Mamarok> bb_: sorry, that makes no sense now, were you able to remove it?
[12:08] <bb_> Mamarok: actually there is no libqt4-install package at all available
[12:09] <Mamarok> bb_: what are you talking about? it's about libqt4-assitant
[12:09] <Mamarok> oh, my bad, sorry, typo :)
[12:10] <Mamarok> josh-N: if there are bindings you can ignore those, nothing else, no agent package?
[12:10] <bb_> Mamarok: got it now - reinstalled the package
[12:10]  * Mamarok needs food
[12:10] <Mamarok> bb_: now try sudo aprt-get dist-upgrade again
[12:10] <Mamarok> apt-get*
[12:10] <Mamarok> I really need food soon
[12:11] <bb_> Mamarok: same as before
[12:11] <bb_> Mamarok: me too :)
[12:11]  * bb_ break for lunch - back on the problem afterwards
[12:14] <josh-N> Mamarok: what apt-cache search akonadi gave me is here http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/tYgFTZMp ... in software management when i search for "akonadi" i see two installed packages: "akonadi-server" and "libakonadiprivate1" - and several that are not installed
[12:14] <blain> bb_ nooo, i think your problem has priority over lunch
[12:15] <Mamarok> bb_: still here, was just getting something from the kitchen :)
[12:15] <josh-N> Mamarok: the not installed include several bindings, some libraries, a transitional package and "management and debugging console" as well as "google calendar and contacts resource"
[12:16] <Mamarok> josh-N: hm, try aptitude search akonadi, it puts letters in front so I can see what is installed
[12:17] <Mamarok> you should definitely install the console and the kde libraries
[12:17] <josh-N> Mamarok: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/4xEnR0FC
[12:18] <josh-N> Mamarok: ok, will install those
[12:19] <Mamarok> josh-N: in the newst paste this would be lines 6, 8 and 9
[12:24] <josh-N> Mamarok: ok, now it looks like this http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/hVcdAgDi ... do you think that's enough to make it work?
[12:25] <Mamarok> josh-N: try it, if that doesn't solve the issue, you should try running thess two lines:
[12:25] <Mamarok> sudo aa-complain mysqld
[12:25] <Mamarok> sudo /etc/init.d/apparmor reload
[12:25] <Mamarok> these*
[12:31] <Mamarok> ubottu: !akonadi
[12:33] <josh-N> Mamarok: thank you very much. can't tell whether it worked yet, but you helped alot.
[12:34] <Mamarok> josh-N: you are welcome, but I would like to know if it works, what happens if you start akonadi again?
[12:34] <josh-N> how do i manually restart akonadi?
[12:34] <Mamarok> akonadictl start
[12:35] <josh-N> it just says akonadi is already running
[12:35] <Mamarok> hm, then do akonadictl stop
[12:35] <Mamarok> $and start it again
[12:35] <Mamarok> -$
[12:36] <Mamarok> but you shouldn't have kontact running
[12:37] <josh-N> yeah i closed it first...
[12:37] <josh-N> this is what i got on the terminal: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/PBAcQDRV
[12:39] <Mamarok> hm, it still doesn't connect to MySQL, did you run the two lines above?
[12:39] <josh-N> no, not yet... going to do that now
[12:40] <Mamarok> stop akonadi first
[12:43] <josh-N> i see no FATAL ERROR line this time... http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/FKFFHCJA
[12:43] <Mamarok> yay, it worked :)
[12:44] <josh-N> yay :D thanks a ton
[12:44] <Mamarok> could you please type akonadictl status? Just to make sure you get only three lines telling you it is running and the backend is virtuoso
[12:44] <josh-N> what exactly does that aa-complain thing do?
[12:44] <Mamarok> the problem is apparmor
[12:45] <Mamarok> whihc doesn't let akonadi connect to the server
[12:45] <Mamarok> wich
[12:46] <Mamarok> and apparmor is running as default on Kubuntu
[12:46] <josh-N> Akonadi Control: running    Akonadi Server: running    Akonadi Server Search Support: available (backend: Virtuoso)
[12:46] <Mamarok> josh-N: yep, that's perfect :)
[12:46] <josh-N> sweet :)
[12:47] <Mamarok> now if you start Kontact it will use it directly, and if you start KDE next time, akonadi will start as soon as you start Kontact
[12:48] <josh-N> so apparmor is some kind of security thing that controls what an application can/cannot do?
[12:48] <Mamarok> yes
[12:48] <Mamarok> it limits the ressources for the apps and is directly integrated in the kernel
[12:50] <josh-N> but we only installed a few packages, did their installation "tell" apparmor to be less restrictive?
[12:51] <josh-N> i hope i'm not bugging you too much, just trying to understand what we just did ;)
[12:51] <Mamarok> well, we did telly apparmor to ignore access tries to mysqld, which did shut it down, then we restarted it and it keeps the settings
[12:53] <Mamarok> I got most of my information from techbase.kde.org/Akonadi and man apparmor :)
[12:53] <Mamarok> http://userbase.kde.org/Akonadi, sorry
[12:53] <josh-N> oh i see... that's what the complain was for. thanks again. i never stop learning :)
[12:54] <Mamarok> btw, the userbase wiki is a good ressource for a lot of KDE apps
[12:54] <Mamarok> josh-N: same for me, I learn new things every day :)
[12:55] <josh-N> next time i'll search the userbase wiki first. see you.
[12:55] <Mamarok> josh-N: see you :)
[13:02] <bb_> Mamarok, blain: back from lunch
[13:04] <bb_> obviously there has been no magical lunchtime solution to my problem :)
[13:08] <Mamarok> bb_: well, I was waiting for you to come back
[13:08] <Mamarok> you said "the same as before" which means?
[13:08] <bb_> Mamarok: I hoped that :)
[13:09] <bb_> Mamarok: this is still the situation: http://paste.ubuntu.com/464007/
[13:11] <Mamarok> bb_: do it, we will see if that breaks KDE although it shouldn't. If it does, you can do the following in a terminal (Ctrl+Alt+F1):
[13:11] <Mamarok> sudo apt-get install kdebase-workspace kdebase-workspace-bin
[13:12] <bb_> Mamarok: ok - taking the risky path :) - aptitude has different solutions to offer (they even get higher "Bewertungsnoten") - take a look at my old pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/463979/ - perhaps accept a different solution?
[13:14] <Mamarok> bb_: interesting, try the 1869 solution then, looks like the less risky
[13:15] <bb_> Mamarok: ok, thought so to
[13:15] <bb_> rescue commands stay the same?
[13:15] <Mamarok> I doubt it will break KDE, but if yes, do a sudo apt-get dist-ugrade in the terminal
[13:16] <bb_> Mamarok: the 1869 solution does not update all packages to 4.5 though
[13:16] <bb_> Mamarok: still think it should be the one to go for?
[13:16] <Mamarok> bb_: I know, that is not a problem, we can update that afterwards
[13:16] <Mamarok> yes
[13:16] <bb_> Mamarok: ok, then wish me luck :)
[13:17] <Mamarok> bb_: good luck :)
[13:17] <bb_> Mamarok: thx! ;)
[13:20] <bb_> Mamarok: how do i know update has been a success?
[13:21] <bb_> Mamarok: this is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/464012/
[13:22] <bb_> Mamarok: heaps of errors in that output file
[13:22] <Mamarok> bb_: not a problem, try running dist-upgrade now
[13:24] <bb_> Mamarok: almost the same: http://paste.ubuntu.com/464014/
[13:24] <bb_> Mamarok: the error moves through the libqt packages :)
[13:25] <Mamarok> bb_: don't use aptitude, please use apt-get
[13:26] <bb_> Mamarok: I learnd somewhere that aptitude is the replacement of apt-get
[13:26] <bb_> but ok
[13:26] <Mamarok> aptitude has problems with dist-upgrades (and it should read save-upgrade in Aptitude)
[13:26] <Mamarok> no, it is not a replacement at all
[13:26] <Mamarok> from experience it works not as good as apt-get
[13:27] <bb_> Mamarok: same with apt-get: http://paste.ubuntu.com/464017/
[13:27] <bb_> that seems somehow trustworthy :)
[13:27] <Mamarok> where do you see a problem there? It doesn't sow any
[13:28] <Mamarok> so it'ŝ not the same at all
[13:28] <Mamarok> show*
[13:28] <bb_> "same" as in "same command"
[13:28] <bb_> so I will run that one
[13:28] <Mamarok> ah, OK
[13:28] <bb_> Mamarok: not as in "same problem"
[13:28] <bb_> ok - is running
[13:29] <Snapzilla> Hello, I am running Kubuntu 8.04 on my asus netbook. It didn't recognize my wireless card (atheros AR81 family). I installed the driver but its asking for a module installed. I have tried the ones from the files I downloaded but to no prevail. Keeps saying 'Invalid module format'.
[13:29] <bb_> Mamarok: is there dpkg command to check everything is fine?
[13:30] <bb_> Mamarok: arg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/464020/
[13:30] <Mamarok> bb_: sudo apt-get install --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/libqt4-help_4%3a4.7.0~beta2-0ubuntu1~lucid1~ppa1_amd64.deb
[13:31] <bb_> Mamarok: E: Kommandozeilenoption --force-overwrite konnte nicht ausgewertet werden
[13:31] <Mamarok> Snapzilla: 8.04 is very old and no longer maintained, you should upgrade
[13:31] <Mamarok> hm, let me check
[13:32] <Snapzilla> Mamarok, I'm in Iraq. Don't have best internet to download newer versions
[13:32] <Mamarok> Snapzilla: you could order a CD
[13:33] <Mamarok> bb_: that is correct, are you sure you typed that correctly?
[13:33] <bb_> Mamarok: i copied your command
[13:33] <Mamarok> bb_: my bad, sorry, its sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/libqt4-help_4%3a4.7.0~beta2-0ubuntu1~lucid1~ppa1_amd64.deb
[13:33] <bb_> just doing another apt-get dist-upgrade -f
[13:34] <Mamarok> bb_: that is useless
[13:34] <Mamarok> do what I told you
[13:34] <bb_> Mamarok: ok, wait till it stops
[13:36] <bb_> Mamarok: seems to run through this time *crossing thumbs*
[13:38] <bb_> Mamarok: so you would really suggest not to use aptitude in future?
[13:39] <Mamarok> bb_: I use aptitude for it's search and show capablities, as the display is nicer than the one made by apt-cache, but apt-get gives better results with dist-upgrades than aptitude, don't know where the problem is, though
[13:39] <Mamarok> and yes,  I strongly suggest to not use it for dit-upgrades
[13:39] <Mamarok> dist*
[13:40] <Misterio> I recently installed Kubuntu (I changed from Ubuntu), but I don't remember command to purge cache. Anybody knows that command?
[13:41] <bb_> Mamarok: ok - seems to have been (part of) the problem  - apt-get ran through this time
[13:41] <Mamarok> Misterio: which cache do you want to purge?
[13:42] <bb_> Mamarok: cool - and thanks 1000 times! Everything seems to fine - no more updates available
[13:42] <Misterio> Mamarok: When I install a package, .deb files are stored. I want to clean that packages
[13:42] <Mamarok> bb_: you are welcome, nice it worked :)
[13:42] <Mamarok> Misterio: sudo apt-get clean
[13:42] <bb_> I will now reboot - be back to tell you everything worked out hopefully in a few minutes :)
[13:42] <Misterio> Mamarok: Okay, thank you
[13:42] <Mamarok> bb_: no need to reboot
[13:42] <Mamarok> just restart KDE
[13:42] <bb_> Mamarok: ok
[13:42] <Mamarok> Misterio: you are welcome
[13:43] <bb_> Mamarok: then I will hopefully be back in a less couple of minutes ;)
[13:47] <bb_> Mamarok: back on KDE 4.5 RC2 :)
[13:47] <Mamarok> bb_: nice :)
[13:48] <bb_> Mamarok: indeed - hope Kontact will be more stable now
[13:48] <Mamarok> it was stable as well before, never had problems with it in 4.4.2 or later
[13:48] <bb_> Mamarok: I just experienced a lot of problems with it the last couple of days
[13:49] <bb_> Mamarok: crashed every couple of minutes
[13:49] <Misterio> It uses a lot of CPU for me
[13:49] <Mamarok> not here
[13:49] <bb_> Mamarok: and it does it again :(
[13:50] <Misterio> Mamarok: Well, my PC starts going slow with OpenArena, so imagine how is it, heh
[13:50] <Mamarok> I don't know what OpenArena is
[13:50] <Mamarok> bb_: try with a new user, could be your settings
[13:51] <bb_> Mamarok: that's a good idea -will do that later, now need to get some work done - this whole update did take much more time than i hoped it would ;)
[13:52] <bb_> Mamarok: thanks again - I be off for now
[13:52] <Mamarok> bb_: well, yeah, when you run into such problems that is annoying and time-consuming
[13:52]  * Mamarok needs to do some work, too
[14:31] <fairy> hi everyone
[14:31] <fairy> how do i install nvidia drivers for my kubuntu 10.04
[14:32] <slhk> fairy: application -> system -> hardware drivers
[14:33] <slhk> in the K menu
[14:33] <fairy> ok thanks
[14:34] <serenity>  does anyone know in which package (kubuntu) the dbg symbols for kwin are located?
[14:35] <Riddell> hi serenity
[14:35] <Riddell> kdebase-workspace-dbg is likely
[14:35] <serenity> hi Riddell
[14:35] <serenity> ah fine
[14:36] <serenity> need to put it under mgraesslin's nose ;)
[14:40] <dihae> hello
[14:41] <dihae> for some reason or another, Kmail forgot all the stanard reply templates, and now uses %BLANK everywhere
[14:41] <dihae> does anyone still have these templates? that would be a lot easier than to recreate them myself
[14:53] <superbob> Quick question for someone who might know about using keyboard layouts in KDE:  I have changed my keyboard layout to Dvorak (Programmer Dvorak, specifically).  I am using Compiz and have mapped some actions using the Super.  The problem is that sometimes, when I start up the computer, the Super key will act as a temporary layout switcher, and sometimes not, such that sometimes I have to press <Super>K  to get <Super>K  and sometimes I have to press
[14:53] <superbob>  <Super>V  ....    is there anyway of making the behavior consistent, one way or the other????   I would prefer it not to change layout, if possible
[15:19] <realversus> hi I installed windows to a partition, is there a way to reinstall grub with windows 7? something like grubinstall.exe?
[15:23] <psynautic> anybody have a clue as to why my dual monitor settings (set in the Display config) won't stick upon restart?
[15:23] <psynautic> realversus, you can reinstall grub if you boot to a linux iso
[15:24] <psynautic> with a cd or flashdrive iso
[15:24] <realversus> I have none available and my internet is very slow
[15:24] <psynautic> there are really small isos
[15:25] <psynautic> damn small linux is like 50mb
[15:26] <realversus> and what needs to be done then? sudo grub-install?
[15:27] <psynautic> http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/wiki/index.php/Installing_Grub
[15:27] <psynautic> looks like you mightnt need the entire distro even
[15:29] <realversus> thanks for your help I will see to try it
[15:29] <psynautic> np
[15:30] <psynautic> good luck :)
[15:33] <psynautic> anybody have a clue as to why my dual monitor settings (set in the Display config) won't save upon restart?
[15:33] <ali_> connect pardus
[15:33] <ali_> :)
[15:56] <john___> can anyone help me?
[15:58] <Mamarok> !ask | john___
[15:59] <john___> ok
[15:59] <Blasphemie> moin
[15:59] <john___> why my kubuntu slow in performance?
[15:59] <Blasphemie> ill just updated my rc1 1 times.. now kubuntu wont boot properly anymore
[16:00] <john___> why my kubuntu slow in performance or works so slow?
[16:03] <john___> why my kubuntu wifi unable to connect?
[16:15] <snarkster> if i wanted to run multiple commands from command line, can i use ; to seperate commands? IE: mv *.jpg 1-jpg/;mv *.gif 2-gif/
[16:17] <tsimpson> snarkster: yes
[16:17] <snarkster> excellant thank you
[16:17] <tsimpson> they will run one after the other, but immediately
[16:18] <snarkster> im good with that
[16:18] <Xyt> anyone able to help me fixing my problem of playing dvd's on kubuntu?
[16:23] <snarkster> medibuntu repo has what you need
[16:23] <snarkster> nvm then
[16:31] <BluesKaj> !synergy
[17:37] <reagleBRKLN> My partner and I are sharing the desktop, "switch user" works great, but not so much for sound. arts use to have a "suspend arts" if not used for X seconds, I don't see anything similar in KDE4, how do we share the audio?
[17:43] <zenzamy> Yo evry One :)
[18:19] <steveire> How do I permanently change the ulimit? I have edited /etc/security/limits..conf, but it seems that is not enough
[18:32] <|rapidsp|> re
[18:32] <|rapidsp|> hi
[18:33] <|rapidsp|> katimon is not in repas?
[18:36] <|rapidsp|> and can katimon work with radeon driver or it need amd driver?
[18:37] <|rapidsp|> !test
[18:39] <slow-motion> re
[18:45] <demism> what package is kubuntu using to automount my usb drives?
[18:47] <mcurran> anyone know how to fix icon placement on desktop in kde3
[18:47] <blain> kde3 is EOL
[18:48] <mcurran> I know but I run BT4
[18:48] <blain> ask in #backtrack
[18:48] <mcurran> yes
[18:48] <demism> anyone know what program is being used to automount my usb drives?
[18:48] <mcurran> I would have to google that, so that's your best bet.
[18:50] <mcurran> I've been trying to fix these stupid icons that get moved around every startup for over a year but nope?  I even created startup scripts that create and delete a txt file on desktop, but that didn't work, I just need the arrange desktop icons command (-v) but can't find it anywhere.
[18:53] <inteliwasp> i am trying to get the nvidia drivers to work but i am always met with the tty screen, i have followed the steps on the wiki but to no avail
[18:54] <blain> you just have to use the application hardware drivers
[18:54] <blain> and activate them
[18:54] <inteliwasp> blain: i did
[18:54] <inteliwasp> but when i reboot, i get the tty login
[18:54] <blain> hmm
[18:54] <blain> are the drivers for the kernel you're using?
[18:55] <inteliwasp> what do you mean?
[18:56] <inteliwasp> do you mean 32/64 bit?
[18:58] <|rapidsp|> and xserver version?
[19:01] <inteliwasp> |rapidsp|: how do i check?
[19:01] <darthganesh_> what the error "failed to open pty" means
[19:03] <|rapidsp|> inteliwasp: i dont know
[19:03] <inteliwasp> well i am useing 10.4
[19:23] <darthganesh_> What is pty? What are the possible reasons for error "failed to open pty"?
[19:32] <Dark_Hackse> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/TermsOfService
[19:33] <ikonia> Dark_Hackse: ?
[19:34] <Dark_Hackse> Sorry, I was just wondering how I'm able to chat here without typing my password via  /msg NickServ identify <password>. That's kinda interesting.
[19:43] <naresh_> hello
[21:36] <Ezro> Hey guys, I am loving kubuntu netbook edition and I was wondering if it's safe to put it on a laptop.
[21:36] <Ezro> I don't know if the netbook edition will mess up or something if I do.
[21:36] <DT[AtWork]> are there any really easy to set up remote desktop applications that allow a windows machine control a linux machine with out having both comp accessable at the same time?
[21:40] <Ezro> Anyone?
[21:40] <avihay> it shouldn't cause a problem
[21:45] <|rapidsp|> DT[AtWork]: rdesktop?
[21:47] <ridin> ezro, meaning having the netbook edition on a regular laptop?
[21:51] <DT[AtWork]> |rapidsp|: link?
[21:52] <ridin> ezro, i have lubuntu netbook on my 1680x1050 resolution desktop, and it works fine
[21:53] <|rapidsp|> DT[AtWork]: http://www.rdesktop.org/
[21:54] <Tonglebeak> hello folks. my gf is tired of people using her computer and trashing it, so she asked me to put linux on it. I'm  a gentoo user and i'm not famliar with kubuntu's installation process
[21:54] <Ezro> ridin: Ty for the info
[21:54] <Ezro> I'm installing it on my friend's laptop lol
[21:54] <Tonglebeak> she has windows vista on it right now. can gparted handle vista partitioins (i think they're an updated ntfs format)
[21:54] <Tonglebeak> *i'm also guessing kubuntu has gparted in its installer
[21:54] <Ezro> Tonglebeak: You put the cd in and hit install
[21:54] <Ezro> lol
[21:55] <ridin> partitionmanager for kubuntu i think
[21:55] <ridin> gparted for regular ubuntu
[21:55] <ridin> ubuntumanager for ubuntuntuntutnutnu
[21:55] <ridin> and so on
[21:55] <ridin> slide your partitions
[21:56] <Tonglebeak> alright, what about the bootloader? does kubuntu use grub or lilo? she intends on dual-booting (stupid itunes, perhaps libmtp supports ipods. i'll have to check on that)
[21:56] <ridin> grub
[21:56] <Tonglebeak> alright, does it set itself up or does it have to be manually config'd for a dualboot?
[21:56] <ridin> mmmmm, no
[21:56] <ridin> but i've heard some problems that you can't boot back to windows
[21:56] <ridin> via grub
[21:57] <ridin> i'm sure you can handle that, since you're mr. gentoo
[21:57] <Tonglebeak> lol yeah
[21:57] <ridin> asdf, grub sets up itself
[21:57] <Tonglebeak> just wanted to know what all the installer did before i go and trash her computer
[21:57] <Tonglebeak> lol
[21:57] <Tonglebeak> alright thanks
[21:57] <ridin> ok, have fun with kde
[21:57] <Tonglebeak> i figured kubuntu would be the most user-friendly distro out there
[21:57] <Ezro> It definitely is
[21:57] <Ezro> lol
[21:58] <Ezro> The netbook edition is so gosu.
[21:58] <Tonglebeak> she wanted what i have, but i don't think she wants to spend battery power compiling every package
[21:58] <Tonglebeak> take care everyone
[21:58] <ridin> gasp
[21:59] <ridin> i always thought mint (distro) or lxde was more user friendly
[21:59] <pipo>  KUBUNTU super distro
[21:59] <ridin> you have that windows xp feeling
[22:01] <DT[AtWork]> |rapidsp|: thanks
[22:38] <mero> It is "safe" to upgrade to new version of kde in repos ? is kde 4.4.2 official more stable than 4.4.4 from repos ?
[22:46] <Listener> I just upgraded to 4.4.5 using backports with no problems so far.
[22:48] <blain> good for you
[22:49] <mero> also I've got hangup sometimes when starting kdm - error like cannot get uid() and system stopped. anybody know about this error - is it fixed ?
[23:06] <mIKEjONES> anyone know I can write my X config out to a file?
[23:06] <mIKEjONES> there's no xorg.conf anymore :/
[23:30] <derdon> does konqueror automatically save a session if it is terminated "the hard way"?
[23:31] <liam_> My ubuntu splash screen isn't displaying, anyone having the same problem or know how to fix this ?
[23:31] <ridin> terminated the hard way, meaning killing the process?
[23:31] <derdon> ridin: yes
[23:31] <derdon> ridin: it is freezed
[23:31] <ridin> i never use konqueror (i use swiftfox)
[23:31] <derdon> ridin: and there are 4 windows opened, each with about 5-10 tabs
[23:31] <ridin> ee
[23:32] <ridin> alt+f2 and type in pkill konqueror
[23:32] <ridin> and hope your tabs are saved
[23:32] <derdon> ridin: but I want to have the ability to restore all the pages then!
[23:33] <ridin> let me boot into kde, let's see what happens
[23:33] <derdon> oh, thanks :)
[23:36] <ridin> derdon: on konqueror on my machine i opened 50 tabs and then did pkill konqueror while the tabs were still loading. i had the option to restore my session or start with a clean slate
[23:36] <ridin> laim_, it the splash screen with the logo title and 5 dots?
[23:36] <derdon> ridin: very good!
[23:36] <derdon> ridin: thank you again!
[23:37] <nobarking> hey everyone
[23:38] <nobarking> what's a good vnc client for Kubuntu KDE4 friendly, Qt4 based preferably?
[23:41] <derdon> konqueror doesn't like me :(
[23:45] <liam_> ridin: yeah it is ... it doesn't display on boot anymore or shutdown :-s