penguin42as normal, I now remember I still have xorg-edgers in there and will need to undo that01:11
zakscottyah im getting the crashes too, think mine was mesa / gallium related01:16
penguin42hmm the 2.6.35 is black screening for me, I don't get any output after grub even with quiet and splash removed01:17
penguin42I've just taken out the gfx bits from the grub and now see a panic - but only see the end of it01:19
zakscottim just going to wait for a patch, can do without gfx for now. actually more productive without it :p01:20
penguin42this is all interrupt mapp and setup_io_apic01:20
philsfdoes a problem with the indicator applet from the backport lucid ppa apply to be asked here?02:02
penguin42passing nointremap gets me booting02:03
penguin42right, bug 605686 filed02:17
ubottuLaunchpad bug 605686 in linux (Ubuntu) "[maverick] noioremap needed - Blocked an interrupt request due to source-id verificiation failure" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/60568602:17
Tazzypillaram i here06:33
DreadKnight10.10 is fail for me.... the internet connection fails for about 10-20 seconds every 5 minutes or so, not cool07:14
SwedeMikeis 10.10 going to have dnssec validation turned on by default for bind? http://www.root-dnssec.org/category/status/ , it goes live today.08:24
SwedeMikeplus something that automatically updates the keys...08:24
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GryllidaI'm reading #ubuntu-classroom logs, http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/07/10/%23ubuntu-classroom.html#t15:15 second paragraph last line -- the software center will include some paid applications in 10.10! WHAT? Can you link me to something about it?10:42
Jordan_USounds like a great idea to me, especially if some of those paid applications are Free Software.10:47
GryllidaDefine "paid application", I thought it is the one you pay for and which thus can't be free.10:57
nigelbGryllida: free as in freedom11:00
nigelbnot free as beer11:00
Gryllidanigelb: can you give me an example of free paid application, please?11:01
Jordan_UGryllida: I don't know the details, and while I'm not against paid proprietary applications I'm not realy interested in that feature.11:02
Jordan_UGryllida: You could have an option to pay for The Gimp which would be effectively a donation. You could also pay for support for a Free application.11:03
GryllidaWill the paayment be an option or a requirement for some applications?11:03
Jordan_UGryllida: I assume that it would for some proprietary applications, but I haven't looked intoe the details myself.11:04
GryllidaWhere can I read about the progress on this feature?11:07
nigelbGryllida: I dont know the details either.  Please read up the specs from uds.11:23
nigelbThere was a session which talked about it.11:23
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penguin42hmm, has anyone noticed audio quality problems on +1 - the audio sounds  'toppy' - i.e. excessive or distorted high frequencies ?12:20
coz_penguin42,  I have not because I compile my sound driver ...sorry12:24
penguin42ah, particularly obscure hardware?12:24
penguin42I don't suppose anyone knows where to find ppa-purge - a thing referred to in the xorg-edgers page to remove edgers12:28
yofelisn't that part of the edgers ppa?12:30
penguin42yofel: Doesn't seem to be; and apt-file isn't finding it12:30
yofelPPAs don't support apt-file12:30
yofelpenguin42: https://edge.launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa/+packages?field.name_filter=ppa&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=12:32
penguin42yofel: Ah thanks; of course having forgotten to do it prior to upgrade I now have their sources disabled - which is why I guess apt-cache isn't finding it12:33
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penguin42anyone else seeing flickering mouse pointer?13:31
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penguin42virt-manager doesn't seem that happy to me15:33
penguin42hmm, mostly OK, just died once or twice15:44
* penguin42 swears at grub2 - what I've missed, GRUB_DEFAULT=0 commented out the GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT and GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET and set GRUB_TIMEOUT=0 shouldn't that get me a menu?15:46
patdk-wk_I thought default was quiet, so uncomment and set to false?15:55
patdk-wk_gives me a menu, for 2seconds15:55
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LucidFoxIs there any way to remove the "Share via microblog" link from the Software Center16:05
zakscottoo goodies 2.6.35-8 is out today16:07
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dholbachDay 4 of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloper Week starts in 23 minutes in #ubuntu-classroomDay 4 of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloper Week starts in 23 minutes in #ubuntu-classroom16:37
dholbachsorry for the mess in the link above, it should be https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek16:41
smallfoot-stjerm is in lucid repo but not in maverick, why?16:45
gesersmallfoot-: it is: stjerm | 0.11-0ubuntu1 | http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick/universe Packages16:55
red2kicsmallfoot-: Enable your universe repo?16:57
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smallfoot-in that case, why cant i find it on packages.ubuntu.co17:13
jpdssmallfoot-: Because maverick stuff on packages.u.c is broken, use Launchpad.17:14
smallfoot-they need fix that17:14
jpdsYes, it's in the works.17:14
smallfoot-i think its been broken long time17:16
jpdsYes; it's written in Perl and uses Berkeley DB, so... not surprising.17:16
penguin42has anyone had 'Processing - Not connected?' on maverick ?17:21
penguin42it seems to be printing though17:21
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penguin42f-spot seems broke18:23
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zakscottaptd just crashed :(18:44
poutineWhy is there no "filesystem root" in the Places menu?19:21
poutineI have to click places, then home folder, then "File System", which is just too many clicks for something I'm sure people visit a lot19:21
patdk-wkmost people don't visit root19:23
patdk-wkbut if you want it, just add it19:23
patdk-wkdon't bitch19:23
LucidFoxpatdk-wk> Hey, that's not nic19:23
LucidFox* nice19:23
LucidFoxanyway... you can start with "Computer"19:23
patdk-wkI never pretend to be nice :)19:23
poutinehow do I add it19:24
poutinestarting with "computer" is the same exact amount of clicks LucidFox19:24
LucidFoxpoutine> You can add it as a bookmark from nautilus19:24
poutineintuitive, it couldn't possibly be available from the MENU EDITOR19:25
poutinealso I think a lot of people visit their filesystem roots19:25
patdk-wkI visit root about once every time I look at bootchart19:25
patdk-wkand since I only reboot maybe once a month, that isn't often19:26
poutineI think the filesystem root is more important than "Desktop"19:26
patdk-wkotherwise I never leave my homedir19:26
patdk-wkdesktop is useless19:26
patdk-wkbut many people use it to store stuff :(19:26
poutinereally my main annoyance is getting to /mnt19:29
poutineI guess alternatives have been suggested, but I think there should be a filesystem root in there19:29
patdk-wkbookmark it :)19:29
poutineit's not like it's cluttered19:29
patdk-wkmine is cluttered19:29
patdk-wkabout 12 things bookmarked, plus about 16 drives listed19:30
LucidFoxWhat's with the ridiculous PPA build waiting times lately :(19:31
* LucidFox pokes ripps19:31
penguin42LucidFox: More people know about them and I guess the farm is getting a bit full19:34
patdk-wkhmm, $400 rebate :)19:36
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Daekdroomand.. my open app that consumes the most RAM is.. Rhythmbox?!20:57
rskit's not know for being memory efficent20:59
DaekdroomYeah. But that's surprising.20:59
DaekdroomI'd atleast expect it to be Firefox..20:59
DaekdroomOh well. Banshee wastes even more ram..21:00
zakscottchromium for me but i have goog docs open21:01
penguin42Daekdroom: Out of interest is it leaking?21:01
penguin42zakscott: Are you running chromium on maverick?21:01
penguin42zakscott: Hmm, I'm running the ppa and it's not happy after the maverick upgrade - I don't get any fonts21:02
Daekdroompenguin42, apparently not.21:02
DaekdroomI'll keep an eye on it anyway21:02
penguin42Daekdroom: I'll admit to using exaile rather than rhythmbox21:02
DaekdroomI'm checking on banshee but it feels like same ol' same.21:02
zakscottwhats the apt command to output package info again?21:02
Daekdroomsudo apt-cache showpkg <package name>21:03
penguin42this should be entertaining; updating my iscsi-root vm to maverick21:05
* penguin42 is running a squid on his host, makes doing the upgrades a lot faster21:08
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zakscottcolossal squid?? D:21:17
zakscotthmm: "Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/xorg-edgers/nouveau/ubuntu/dists/maverick/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404  Not Found"21:18
* penguin42 has turned off edgers21:19
zakscottahh, maverick is missing from dists21:21
* penguin42 wonders why his load average is 1721:27
penguin42I've got a paid of kvm guests running, 1 fileserving to the other, which is itself doing a maverick upgrade - but not much else21:27
BUGabundopenguin42: gwibber? gnome-do?21:29
penguin42BUGabundo: no, and no - just an exaile playing my music (off a separate disk) and synergy taking these keystrokes - and I don't type *that* fast21:29
penguin42I guess the metacity/flickering pointer bug can't be helping21:30
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penguin42ok, that's impressive - iSCSI guest server installation just upgraded to maverick OK21:38
zakscottwhere should i add "blacklist nouveau" boot without nouveau drivers loaded?22:21
yofelzakscott: create a new file in /etc/modprobe.d/ cotaining that22:23
zakscottalright giving it a shot brb22:33
penguin42hmm my squid is being very helpful in maverick updates22:58
ideasman42Hi there, Im trying to write a thumbnail generator for ubuntu23:23
ideasman42the problem I have is that I manage to get an RGBA buffer, but need a way to write it as a PNG, using python for ease of install23:23
penguin42I vaugely remember there are some python image tools23:28
zakscottso i completely screwed up xorg and the latest kernel i had installed, what key is it to open the grub menu during boot?23:30
penguin42zakscott: shift - at the VERY start23:31
zakscottgot it, thanks penguin4223:31

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