[00:09] <TheSkeward> Hi.  I'm on Ubuntu 10.04 under the XFCE desktop environment, attempting to use Altec BX1220 speakers, and when I plug them in, they light up and give feedback, but no sound comes from them.  Can someone help me?
[01:29] <cilly> Hello everyone!  I am having a problem getting the printer to work.  I have ubuntu 10.04 installed on a powermac G3.  I have installed the Z600 driver thru the help of the forums.  I am getting the error:  Idle-Filter "usr/lib/cups/filter/rastertoz600" for printer "Lexmark-Lexmark-Z25-Z35 not owned by root.  Does anyone know how to fix this?
[01:32] <stlsaint> cilly: please open a terminal
[01:33] <stlsaint> cilly: and run command: groups
[01:35] <cilly> Hi.  Thanks for responding.   After groups at the terminal,  this is the output:  cilly root adm dialout fax cdrom floppy tape dip video plugdev fuse lpadmin admin sambashare
[01:40] <TheSkeward> Hi.  I'm on Ubuntu 10.04 under the XFCE desktop environment, attempting to use Altec BX1220 speakers, and when I plug them in, they light up and give feedback, but no sound comes from them.  The speaker icon says "100% | 0.00 dB | Internal Audio Digital Stereo (IEC958)" when I mouse over it.  Can anyone help me?
[01:41] <cilly> stlsaint:  are you here?
[01:45] <Vantrax> cilly you still have that terminal open
[01:46] <cilly> yes sir
[01:46] <stlsaint> cilly: run command groups
[01:46] <Vantrax> run ls -l /usr/lib/cups/filter/rastertoz600
[01:47] <Vantrax> stlsaint,cilly did:  After groups at the terminal,  this is the output:  cilly root adm dialout fax cdrom floppy tape dip video plugdev fuse lpadmin admin sambashare
[01:47] <Vantrax> and give me some output
[01:47] <cilly> -rwxr-xr-x 1 cilly cilly 97862 2003-08-21 02:36 /usr/lib/cups/filter/rastertoz600
[01:47] <stlsaint> Vantrax: im not sure with printing but shouldnt /usr be owned by root
[01:48] <Vantrax> TheSkeward, you might have better luck on thef orums with that one
[01:48] <TheSkeward> Thanks, Vantrax.
[01:48] <Vantrax> cilly run this command sudo chmod root:root /usr/lib/cups/filter/rastertoz600
[01:48] <Vantrax> then run the previous ls -l comand again
[01:49] <Vantrax> TheSkeward, as an offhand id say the driver is messing up, the os thinks the speakers is at max, but the driver isnt detecting your audio out right
[01:50] <cilly> after the sudo command , it says chmod: invalid mode: `root:root'
[01:50] <cilly> Try `chmod --help' for more information
[01:50] <Vantrax> oh shoot
[01:50] <Vantrax> my bad
[01:50] <Vantrax> sudo chown root:root /usr/lib/cups/filter/rastertoz600
[01:50] <Vantrax> it should have been chown not chmod
[01:50] <stlsaint> hehe
[01:50] <Vantrax> chown is used to change the ownership of a file, chmod is used to change the permissions on the file
[01:50] <cilly> ok here goes
[01:51] <Vantrax> sorry bout that slip, it wont affect your machine
[01:51] <Vantrax> TheSkeward, do you know what audio hardware you have in the machine?
[01:52] <TheSkeward> 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)
[01:52] <Vantrax> hrm, that is unusual
[01:52] <TheSkeward> I get that out of lspci, is that what you're looking for?
[01:53] <TheSkeward> This computer is ooooooold
[01:53] <cilly> okay now after the ls -l command, we have:total 320
[01:53] <cilly> drwxr-xr-x 2 cilly cilly   4096 2010-07-14 00:18 Desktop
[01:53] <cilly> drwxr-xr-x 2 cilly cilly   4096 2010-07-09 11:14 Documents
[01:53] <cilly> drwxr-xr-x 6 cilly cilly   4096 2010-07-14 20:48 Downloads
[01:53] <cilly> drwxr-xr-x 3 cilly cilly   4096 2010-07-09 14:34 dwhelper
[01:53] <cilly> -rw-r--r-- 1 cilly cilly    179 2010-07-09 10:44 examples.desktop
[01:53] <Vantrax> TheSkeward, try running alsamixer an see if something looks funny there
[01:53] <cilly> drwxr-xr-x 3 cilly cilly   4096 2010-07-14 13:41 lexmark
[01:53] <cilly> drwxr-xr-x 2 cilly cilly   4096 2010-07-09 11:14 Music
[01:53] <cilly> drwxr-xr-x 2 cilly cilly   4096 2010-07-09 11:14 Pictures
[01:53] <Vantrax> sorry cilly
[01:53] <cilly> -rw-r--r-- 1 cilly cilly 280408 2010-07-12 13:13 ppc-codecs_20071007-0medibuntu1_powerpc.deb
[01:53] <cilly> drwxr-xr-x 2 cilly cilly   4096 2010-07-09 11:14 Public
[01:53] <cilly> drwxr-xr-x 2 cilly cilly   4096 2010-07-09 11:14 Templates
[01:53] <cilly> drwxr-xr-x 2 cilly cilly   4096 2010-07-09 11:14 Videos
[01:53] <Vantrax> the previous ls -l command : ls -l /usr/lib/cups/filter/rastertoz600
[01:53] <stlsaint> SPAM!
[01:53] <Vantrax> ls -l gives you the informaiton on your current folder
[01:53] <Vantrax> if you hand it a path to a file it just gives you info on that file
[01:54] <Vantrax> TheSkeward, you might find something is muted in there or turned low that is messing things up
[01:55] <TheSkeward> Yeah, tried that.  Turned all the volumes up and everything.
[01:55] <TheSkeward> Information displayed was
[01:55] <TheSkeward> Card: Intel ICH5 Chip: Analog Devices AD1981B Item: Master [dB gain: 0.00, 0.00]
[01:55] <Vantrax> yeah, then its likely a driver issue
[01:55] <Vantrax> but that is very unsual with intel chips
[01:55] <cilly> okay, now we have:  -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 97862 2003-08-21 02:36 /usr/lib/cups/filter/rastertoz600
[01:55] <Vantrax> id post all that info on the forums and see what people come back with
[01:55] <Vantrax> cilly, your error should be gone now
[01:56] <Vantrax> you should be able to install that printer
[01:56] <cilly> should I delete the installation I have and start over?
[01:56] <Vantrax> the printer?
[01:57] <Vantrax> probably, it looks like it failed last time
[01:57] <Vantrax> but not the driver or the other stuff you did
[01:57] <Vantrax> just try adding the printer again
[01:57] <cilly> okay I will try it out. ....  If this works,  you are a genious!!!
[01:58] <Vantrax> nope, just smacked my head against that brick wall before, and someone helped me out
[02:08] <cilly> Vantrax:  I'm back.  It seems to have installed.  I tried to print a test page.  But it said there was an error in printing.  It says Printer State: Idle- Processing page 1.  I enabled the debugging in the Printing troubleshooter.
[02:08] <cilly> How do you read the log?
[02:08] <Vantrax> err
[02:09] <Vantrax> system -> administration -> log viewer
[02:18] <cs1> hi guys
[02:18] <cilly> I'm lost now
[02:18] <cs1> im facing a problem currently
[02:19] <cs1> what do we need to do to setup ERP system on the server??
[02:20] <stlsaint> erp?
[02:21] <cilly> I tried another test page.  It says usr/lib/cups/filter/rastertoz600 failed
[02:35] <stlsaint> cilly: failed? is that it?
[02:38] <phillw> damn, i hate it when you get the answer and they log off :-\
[02:41] <phillw> if cs1 comes back then point him to http://brunogirin.blogspot.com/2010/05/installing-openerp-on-ubuntu-1004-lts.html
[02:42]  * phillw is off to bed :-)
[02:52] <Vantrax> sorry cilly, im at work atm, im sure stlsaint can keep working on it with you
[02:58] <stlsaint> DID SOMEONE SAY PYTHON!
[02:58] <stlsaint> ?
[02:59] <Vantrax> PERL
[03:00] <pedro3005> PYTHON?
[03:00] <pedro3005> stlsaint, THEY SAID PYTHON????
[03:06] <stlsaint> pedro3005: i thought i seen a glimpse of it!
[03:06] <stlsaint> Vantrax: theres no point..your out numbered!
[03:06] <stlsaint> 2 to 1
[03:07] <Vantrax> who said its a democracy
[03:08] <Vantrax> me and my wet fish here say otherwise
[03:08] <stlsaint> pedro3005: sorry for the scare
[03:14] <cilly> Vantrax:  no problem.  Its getting too late now anyway.  I will try again tomorrow.  Thanks for helping me out
[03:16] <Vantrax> np
[03:16] <Vantrax> sorry i couldnt solve it for you cilly
[03:16] <Vantrax> we are getting close
[05:09] <simar> hi
[05:22] <seidos> simar, hi
[05:23] <simar> seidos, oh very hello :)))
[05:23] <simar> seidos, do you work for ubuntu-beginners?
[05:23] <seidos> :)
[05:23] <seidos> erm, I try to help out when I am capable
[05:24] <seidos> I am not officially a member yet
[05:24] <simar> seidos, I'm new to the team,
[05:24] <seidos> are you a member, simar?
[05:25] <simar> seidos, no not alt all. I have seen the team only a few days before and these probably are my first posts on the channel..
[05:26] <simar> seidos, Are you a member?
[05:26] <seidos> simar, no, not yet
[05:27] <simar> seidos, I would like to share an idea with you and I want your feedback for it..
[05:28] <seidos> simar, okay
[05:29] <simar> seidos, I have seen many users who try to shift on ubuntu but get back because they are not able to get some good alternative software(of windows) in ubutnu.
[05:30] <seidos> simar, mmm hmmm
[05:30] <simar> seidos, I myself try to use ubuntu two years ago but was not able to.. only now I realize the true potential of linux after using it for two months now.
[05:31] <simar> seidos, But still not able to completely shift myself from windows.. :(
[05:31] <simar> seidos, We in beginners team should have a group that could focus on this thing only .
[05:32] <seidos> simar, it really depends on what your goals are, I think.  If you're goal is to learn how a computer really works, I think GNU/Linux is definitely superior to windows
[05:32] <seidos> but, I would say, and maybe we agree on this point, that ubuntu isn't for everyone
[05:32] <seidos> I think suggesting otherwise isn't very realistic
[05:35] <simar> seidos, ya but we want people to use ubuntu in their day-to day life and I think Ubuntu is no less than windows. It has a lot of better things but still at some parts it lags, not lack exactly but we don't know the right package and right settings.. i think
[05:35] <simar> seidos, afetr using it for a few months
[05:35] <simar> seidos, we could probably create some wiki pages on this at start...
[05:36] <simar> seidos, this way some users may be able to adapt ubuntu quickly and easily ...
[05:37] <simar> seidos, Surely the popularity of the OS will increase this way a lot .... a team that help people to adapt UBUNTU in day to day life ...
[05:37] <seidos> simar, I can't contemplate new information that would help prospective users anymore that what is already available.
[05:38] <seidos> simar, I think the popularity of the OS will increase when it is as reliable and usable as windows.  But this is just my opinion.  I am no expert.
[05:38] <seidos> s/that/than
[05:38] <simar> seidos, ya I know and opinions cam be changed .. i hope
[05:40] <seidos> simar, I don't think it's really a matter of opinion.  I changed my mom over to ubuntu, she didn't like it though, and had my cousin reinstall windows on her desktop.  I have cousins with a problematic windows install, I recommended Ubuntu, but when I realized that really no amount of work on my part will make the transition smooth, I am reconsidering recommending it.  The best I can really do is give them the cd, and say "boot i
[05:40] <seidos> t up, try it out risk free, if you like it great, if you don't, you haven't really lost anything"
[05:42] <simar> seidos, I have many friends that at first are really impressed by ubuntu (say by the less boot time  or  compiz) but disappoints when they are not able to use say OneNote or not able to reproduce easily their pet note taking scheme in windows or say not able to use MP3 at first ... so they eventually shifted away .. can't we change that and prevent people from shifting back someway ??? I hope we could
[05:43] <seidos> simar, I don't know.  I know I can't fix them, and my guess is, if it were that easy to change, it would have been changed already.
[05:45] <simar> seidos, some obvious steps had to be taken but the big truth i have realized that ubuntu has really less manpower to help. On the way somebody has to take initiative .. I hope you are familiar with 'Where there is a way, there is a hope ''  . when we will get focused, surely we will find many ways ..
[05:46] <seidos> simar, in my limited experience it isn't a question of initiative, it is a question of knowledge
[05:47] <simar> seidos, ya but where people work in a team and so many talented people around, I hope we are no short of knowledge and only initiative matters..
[05:49] <seidos> simar, well, time will tell.  In the meantime, since you have initiative, try to work on your knowledge, assuming it needs to be improved.
[05:51] <simar> seidos, ya knowledge , sure needs to improved, for everyone.
[05:52] <simar> seidos, thanks for listening .. fare well
[06:12] <duanedesign> simar: the biggest thing preventing mp3s from working out of the box with Ubuntu os the license of the softeare used to play them.
[06:12] <duanedesign> s/os/is
[06:14] <simar> duanedesign, ya i know that, there are many things which are prevented by licenses ...
[06:14] <simar> duanedesign, though i'm really happy that you read the posts..
[06:15] <simar> duanedesign, are you a member?
[06:15] <duanedesign> yes
[06:16] <simar> duanedesign, i will really happy, if you could read above the conservation b/w me and seidos . please
[06:19] <duanedesign> simar: There is a website that shows Windows software and the Linux counterpart
[06:23] <simar> duanedesign, we can't add mp3 support by default because of licence problem but still we can have a wiki page that new users can open to configure their system, believe me they will be very happy to have that and I believe not many new users are aware of that website.. but a wiki page could be made more accessible .. this way people who want to adopt ubuntu don't have to actually shift from it because of getting frustated about not having t
[06:23] <simar> he support for many of their loved softwares and pet practices in windows .. :)
[06:24] <stlsaint> simar: what mp3 support you looking for?
[06:25] <duanedesign> simar: you should look at the Ubuntu Manual
[06:25] <duanedesign> that is a good document to get people up to speed fast
[06:26] <duanedesign> this is a good project too: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Signpost/Questions
[06:26] <simar> duanedesign, can i have the link please, for the manual
[06:26] <duanedesign> simar: http://ubuntu-manual.org/
[06:27] <simar> duanedesign, k fine. :)
[06:27] <duanedesign> simar: its an easy project to get involved if you have ideas to improve it
[06:28] <simar> duanedesign, are you takling about signpost??
[06:29] <duanedesign> signposts is nice. The Ubuntu Manual is probably better
[06:29] <simar> duanedesign, I have some good ideas, i think i could help there :)
[06:30] <duanedesign> the signpost project is part of the DocTeam.
[06:30] <duanedesign> also easy to get involved in :)
[06:30] <duanedesign> i would like to see the Ubuntu wiki improve
[06:35] <duanedesign> >:)
[06:35] <stlsaint> LOL
[06:35] <stlsaint> classic
[06:36] <stlsaint> when did we stop kicking people! thats a ol' time tradition
[06:36] <duanedesign> yep a classic
[06:36] <duanedesign> wb :)
[06:36] <kermiac> thanks duanedesign, looks like it worked :)
[06:37] <duanedesign> great
[06:37] <stlsaint> dang you ChanServ
[09:15] <insider> please help,  i use Ubuntu 9.10 with splash screen off and when i boot i see this message "udevd [1815] CONFIG_SYSF_DEPRECATED option udev ..." how to fix it?
[09:16] <duanedesign> hello insider
[09:17] <insider> hi
[09:18] <insider> i read that i need to recompile kernel or update it, i upgraded it from synaptic but no help
[09:20] <duanedesign> insider: what kernel are you running
[09:20] <duanedesign> uname -a
[09:21] <insider> Linux 2.6.34 #1 SMP Thu Jul 8 19:41:21 EDT 2010 i686 GNU/Linux
[09:23] <insider> i can boot but it slows boot time
[09:23] <duanedesign> insider: that bug is fixed in newer kernels. I would run a newer kernel.
[09:23] <insider> what kernel version do you advise?
[09:24] <insider> i think 2.6.34 is stable and the newest stable
[09:24] <duanedesign> you can also disable kernel's CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED option
[09:25] <insider> i do not know how to do it safety, any help is appreciated
[09:26] <insider> duanedesign: could you provide some links?
[09:27] <duanedesign> i am looking :)
[09:28] <duanedesign> did you upgrade udev out of a different repository?
[09:28] <insider> my Google doesn't work fine )))
[09:29] <insider> duanedesign: i made system upgrade after it began this problem
[09:37] <duanedesign> i am not sure
[09:37] <duanedesign> all the bug reports say this was fixed a long time ago
[09:37] <duanedesign> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/279019
[09:37] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 279019 in linux-ports (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "Need to update kernel configs to support DesktopTeam's Hardware Detection spec (heat: 5)" [Undecided,Fix released]
[09:37] <duanedesign> Relevant changes are present in Jaunty linux-ports 2.6.28-1.6
[09:38] <stlsaint> tsk tsk, i thought udev was becoming depreciated!?
[09:39] <duanedesign> another thread on the error message
[09:39] <duanedesign> http://www.linux-archive.org/debian-user/289924-config_sysfs_deprecated.html
[09:39] <insider> thx
[09:44] <duanedesign> insider: you are running 9.10 and using the 2.6.34 kernel?
[09:44] <insider> yeah, what's the problem?
[09:45] <duanedesign> i am on 10.04 and using 2.6.32
[09:45] <duanedesign> did you compile your own kernel?
[09:45] <insider> i upgraded kernel when i was using 8.10 and then i upgraded system two times
[09:45] <duanedesign> hmm
[09:46] <ddecator> .32 is in lucid and .35 is in maverick..
[09:46] <ddecator> possibly a ppa?
[09:46] <duanedesign> you might have better luck installing the kernel out of the 9.10 repo
[09:46] <duanedesign> an ubuntu kernel might be better configured to run with udev
[09:47] <insider> then i will nedd to downgrade it, the newest stable is 2.6.34
[09:47] <insider> can is simply turn off this buggy option?
[09:47] <duanedesign> if you want to run that new a kernel you will have to recompile with that option turned off
[09:48] <duanedesign> is there a reason you need to run 2.6.34?
[09:48] <duanedesign> nothing wrong with enjoying bleeding edge :) but it mmight be what the issue is
[09:49] <insider> no issue running new kernel, you might be right
[09:49] <insider> i thought i could simply disable this but no means no
[09:50] <duanedesign> if you open Synaptic and search for linux-generic and install the kernel it offers from the 9.10 repository
[09:50] <duanedesign> you will still have the others...
[09:51] <insider> i know but i'm using only one at a time))
[15:17] <zet> I have problems with my scanner scanjet 3770 10.04 system.
[15:17] <zet> who can help?
[15:50] <Mjiig> hi i have a problem with java, it works properly in firefox which is great but for some reason it doesn't work in chromium, which i would expect it to can you help me since i prefer chromium?
[16:03] <Mjiig> can anyone help?
[16:06] <vikas> hi
[16:06] <vikas> any one t o help
[16:07] <hobgoblin> please ask the question vikas
[16:08] <vikas> ok i have the booting problem blank screen apper with the curcer
[16:08] <vikas> also get error error failed to acquire org.genome.displaymanager : cannection ":1.133"........
[16:11] <vikas> HELP
[16:12] <stlsaint> vikas: !ask
[16:12] <stlsaint> !ask
[16:12] <ubot2> Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[16:12] <stlsaint> .ask
[16:12] <vikas> also get error error failed to acquire org.genome.displaymanager : cannection ":1.133"........
[16:13] <vikas>  i have the booting problem blank screen apper with the pointer
[16:15] <stlsaint> vikas: one issue at a time bud
[16:15] <stlsaint> vikas: so your having connection issues?
[16:15] <hobgoblin> vikas: ok - so is this a clean install - or did it used to work previously
[16:15] <stlsaint> hobgoblin: all yours ;)
[16:15] <vikas> ya it use to work previously
[16:16] <hobgoblin> stlsaint: no thanks - tea time - just trying to get a bit more information ;)
[16:16] <hobgoblin> vikas: ok - so what did you do in the meantime? kernel upgrade? graphic card install?
[16:17] <hobgoblin> try and give people a bit more information - helps us to help you :)
[16:19] <vikas> i inatalled java,gtk 2.10.14 emerald
[16:21] <Maddeth> Hello all!!
[16:21] <hobgoblin> hi Maddeth
[16:21] <Maddeth> long time no see
[16:21] <hobgoblin> indee
[16:21] <hobgoblin> d
[16:22] <vikas> plz help
[16:22] <hobgoblin> vikas: if people are able to they will
[16:22] <Maddeth> whats the problem??
[16:23] <hobgoblin> booting problem blank screen apper with the curcer and  error failed to acquire org.genome.displaymanager : cannection ":1.133".....
[16:23] <vikas> Maddeth, also get error error failed to acquire org.genome.displaymanager : cannection ":1.133"........
[16:23] <hobgoblin> after installing  java,gtk 2.10.14 emerald
[16:24] <vikas> i searched many forms i fownd out it is now using gdm
[16:24] <vikas> not
[16:26] <Maddeth> vikas: you tried changing the run level (alt F3 for eg) and running gdm from there?
[16:28] <vikas> may be not , i reconfigure my xserver-xorg and restart gdm using sudo/etc/init.d/gdm
[16:36] <vikas> one more thing it stop at checking battry and then retry 5 times and tell me to login
[17:01] <zkriesse> hello simar
[17:17] <knoppix> hello
[17:17] <knoppix> any command line experts here?
[17:18] <knoppix> i am new to cli and linux
[17:18] <knoppix> i am practicing on a floppy
[17:19] <knoppix> i have fdisk /dev/fd0 and created 2 = partitions, one for linux and one for dos
[17:20] <knoppix> i am using a live cd to do all this to get familiar before installation
[17:20] <Maddeth> knoppix: okay
[17:20] <knoppix> i can save files to the floppy but how can i save info to the dos part
[17:20] <Maddeth> you would need to mount it
[17:21] <Maddeth> what format have you made the dos partition?
[17:21] <Maddeth> FAT16? etc
[17:29] <knoppix> sorry.. let me past the info
[17:29] <knoppix>     Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[17:29] <knoppix> /dev/fd0p1               1          40         711   83  Linux
[17:29] <knoppix> /dev/fd0p2              41          80         720   e1  DOS access
[17:30] <knoppix> here is how i mount
[17:30] <knoppix> sudo mount /dev/fdo
[17:30] <knoppix> fd0
[17:30] <knoppix> opps
[17:31] <knoppix> sudo mount /dev/fd0 /mnt
[17:31] <knoppix> everything works fine and i can save to linux partition
[17:31] <zkriesse> !pastebin
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[17:32] <knoppix> i appologize
[17:32] <knoppix> i don't know how to do that
[17:32] <knoppix> let  me try
[17:33] <knoppix> can someone guide me how to do that
[17:34] <geirha> sudo mount /dev/fd02p /mnt/dospart
[17:34] <knoppix> ok.. let me try that
[17:35] <knoppix> do i have to create the dospart directory first
[17:35] <geirha> Ah sorry, but you've mounted something on /mnt already
[17:36] <geirha> mkdir -p /tmp/mnt sudo mount /dev/fd0p2 /tmp/mnt
[17:36] <knoppix> well that's the only way i can do in cli
[17:36] <geirha> err; mkdir -p /tmp/mnt && sudo mount /dev/fd0p2 /tmp/mnt
[17:37] <knoppix> mount: special device /dev/fd0p2 does not exist
[17:38] <knoppix> this is my main issue.. i just can't seem to mount the partitions individually
[17:38] <knoppix> or i don't know how
[17:38] <knoppix> :)
[17:41] <Maddeth> can you do an ls -l /dev/ | grep "fd"  ?
[17:41] <knoppix> let me try
[17:41] <simar> zkriesse:- hello ..
[17:44] <knoppix> ok i got the info but how to paste the stuff in this room
[17:44] <Maddeth> pm me if you like
[17:44] <Maddeth> "/msg maddeth {paste}"
[17:44] <knoppix> how do i do that
[17:48] <Maddeth> knoppix: not got a pm yet
[17:55] <saji89> zkriesse, Ping.
[17:58] <Maddeth> knoppix: you still here?
[17:58] <Maddeth> i will brb
[18:12] <knoppix> i'm so sorry.. got pulled away
[18:12] <knoppix> ok
[18:13] <knoppix> Maddeth, how do i paste the cl result
[18:13] <Maddeth> just copy and paste it in a PM
[18:14] <Maddeth> "/msg maddeth {paste}"
[18:15] <knoppix> i'm sorry i don't understand.. remember i am new to all this :)
[18:15] <knoppix> "/msg maddeth {paste}"
[18:16] <Maddeth> without the qutes
[18:16] <Maddeth> and where i put {paste}
[18:16] <Maddeth> paste your findings
[18:16] <knoppix> brw-rw----  1 root    floppy    2,   0 Jul 15 10:26 fd0
[18:16] <knoppix> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root    root          15 Jul 15 09:40 stderr -> /proc/self/fd/2
[18:16] <knoppix> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root    root          15 Jul 15 09:40 stdin -> /proc/self/fd/0
[18:16] <knoppix> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root    root          15 Jul 15 09:40 stdout -> /proc/self/fd/1
[18:16] <knoppix> }
[18:17] <Mohan_chml> knoppix, please use paste.ubuntu.com
[18:17] <knoppix> gosh
[18:17] <knoppix> i don't know how
[18:17] <knoppix> please tell me in plain english
[18:17] <knoppix> lol
[18:17] <knoppix> i am new to all this
[18:17] <Mohan_chml> knoppix, goto paste.ubuntu.com in your browser, paste it there and give us the link :)
[18:18] <knoppix> oh ok
[18:18] <knoppix> please hold
[18:18] <Mohan_chml> knoppix, not needed now
[18:18] <Mohan_chml> from the next time use it :)
[18:18]  * Mohan_chml goez for reading the logs
[18:19] <knoppix> http://paste.ubuntu.com/464136/
[18:19] <knoppix> ok got it
[18:19] <knoppix> is this how?
[18:20]  * Mohan_chml gives a star to knoppix. YOU DID IT :)
[18:20] <knoppix> haha
[18:20] <knoppix> thanks
[18:21] <knoppix> what is the image bin used for?
[18:21] <knoppix> same things
[18:21] <Maddeth> knoppix: yeah, but pics
[18:21] <knoppix> i see
[18:22] <knoppix> take a screen shot and then point to it and it will provide a link?
[18:22] <Maddeth> knoppix: never used it :)
[18:22] <Maddeth> knoppix: just assuming
[18:22] <knoppix> ok
[18:22] <Maddeth> knoppix: as for your problem, I only see fd0
[18:22] <Maddeth> I cant see any other partitions
[18:22] <Mohan_chml> Maddeth, i think its fd0 alone
[18:22] <knoppix> how long is the ubuntu link active for?
[18:23] <Mohan_chml> knoppix, itswill be there :)
[18:23] <knoppix> thanks
[18:23] <knoppix> Maddeth, let me provide the fdisk link also
[18:24] <knoppix> please hold
[18:24] <Maddeth> kk
[18:24] <Maddeth> knoppix: I am off very shorlty
[18:24] <Maddeth> shortly even
[18:24] <Maddeth> homes time
[18:25] <knoppix> http://paste.ubuntu.com/464138/
[18:25] <knoppix> both the partitions are there
[18:26] <knoppix> i created 2 partition and change the type for the 2nd one to e1 to make it dos
[18:27] <Maddeth> knoppix: I would love to help further, but I have to go home
[18:27] <Maddeth> Might log on when I get in
[18:27] <knoppix> oh.. ok
[18:27] <knoppix> where's home?
[18:27] <knoppix> :)
[18:27] <Maddeth> S-wales ;)
[18:27] <Maddeth> UK
[18:27] <knoppix> ah
[18:27] <knoppix> beautiful place
[18:28] <knoppix> mountains and meadows
[18:28] <knoppix> sheep
[18:28] <knoppix> lol
[18:28] <knoppix> countryside
[18:29] <knoppix> well thanks for helping me
[18:29] <knoppix> i have been in many chat room .. but no one seems to have an answer
[18:29] <knoppix> just a simple diskette in two partition..
[18:30] <Mohan_chml> knoppix, get into /dev and see what fd0* folders are there
[18:31] <knoppix> http://paste.ubuntu.com/464142/
[18:31] <Mohan_chml> fd0                 ptyc5  ptyt1  ptyzd       tty63  ttyq4  ttyx0
[18:31] <knoppix> don't forget i'm on a live knoppix cd
[18:31] <knoppix> dvd
[18:32] <Mohan_chml> that shows that only fd0 is available. not the DOS or Linux partitionx
[18:32] <knoppix> i'm confused
[18:33] <knoppix> i did cd /dev and ls
[18:33] <knoppix> but this seems like my livecd
[18:33] <knoppix> not my floppy
[18:34] <knoppix> this is my floppy http://paste.ubuntu.com/464138/
[18:35] <Mohan_chml> knoppix, the device being mounted will get added in your /dev automatically. try removing the floppy and fd0 will vanish
[18:36] <knoppix> the device is not mounted at the moment
[18:37] <knoppix> knoppix@Microknoppix:/$ sudo umount /dev/fd0
[18:37] <knoppix> umount: /dev/fd0: not mounted
[18:38] <Mohan_chml> what you got for sudo mount /dev/fd0 /mnt
[18:38] <Mohan_chml> ?
[18:38] <knoppix> the disk is out and fd0 is still there
[18:38] <Mohan_chml> ahha
[18:39] <stlsaint> knoppix: lol....knoppix! you sly dog you! ;)
[18:39] <knoppix> knoppix@Microknoppix:/$ sudo umount /dev/fd0
[18:39] <knoppix> umount: /dev/fd0: not mounted
[18:40] <knoppix> sorry
[18:40] <knoppix> knoppix@Microknoppix:/$ sudo mount /dev/fd0 /mnt
[18:40] <knoppix> mount: /dev/fd0 is not a valid block device
[18:40] <knoppix> this is with the diskette removed
[18:41] <knoppix> this is with the diskette in
[18:41] <knoppix> knoppix@Microknoppix:/$ sudo mount /dev/fd0 /mnt
[18:41] <knoppix> knoppix@Microknoppix:/$
[18:42] <knoppix> http://paste.ubuntu.com/464148/
[18:42] <knoppix> here's the fdisk
[18:43] <sebsebseb> Hi
[18:44] <knoppix> all i did what used fdisk >n parameter to create 2 equal partition
[18:44] <knoppix> then used the "t" parameter to change the 2nd partition to a dos partition type "e1"
[18:45] <knoppix> now i would like to know how to access them individually
[18:45] <knoppix> when i create a file and save it to disk .. it saves fine in the linux partition but how do i access the dos partition
[18:47] <knoppix> and when i take this diskette to windows it will not recognize the disk
[18:47] <Mohan_chml> knoppix, you saw two drives incomputer??
[18:47] <Mohan_chml> you are in Gnome enviroinment right?
[18:48] <knoppix> Mohan_chml, .. you there?
[18:48] <knoppix> no
[18:49] <knoppix> this is a knoppix live dvd
[18:49] <Mohan_chml> ok
[18:49] <knoppix> kde i think
[18:49] <knoppix> what's the command to check?
[18:49] <paultag> knoppix: default knoppix?
[18:49] <knoppix> yes
[18:49] <paultag> knoppix: it's GNOME
[18:49] <knoppix> no
[18:50] <knoppix> the bar is at the bottom
[18:50] <paultag> I don't care about that
[18:50] <paultag> let me double check knoppix
[18:50] <paultag> knoppix: those  bars are very easy to move
[18:50] <knoppix> i know
[18:50] <Mohan_chml> paultag, :)
[18:51] <knoppix> but the menu is different
[18:51] <paultag> OK
[18:51] <paultag> I have not used knoppix since 2007
[18:51] <paultag> What software is installed on the KNOPPIX-CD?
[18:51] <knoppix> what's the command to check this
[18:51] <paultag> #  KDE as the standard desktop with K Office and the Konqueror WWW-browser konqueror
[18:51] <knoppix> it's a dvd
[18:52] <knoppix> iceweasel
[18:52] <knoppix> this is the dvd version not the cd version
[18:55] <knoppix> about 3.6Gigs
[18:55] <knoppix> LXDE desktop
[18:56] <knoppix> http://distrowatch.com/?newsid=05783
[18:57] <knoppix> the browser is iceweasel
[19:00] <knoppix> Mohan_chml, i have one hd but i'm using a live dvd and trying to practice on a floppy with partitions, filesystem, saving info etc
[19:23] <knoppix> anyone has an answer to my problem
[19:23] <knoppix> :)
[19:24] <Maddeth> back
[19:24] <Cuthbeorht> sorry, missed the beginning, knoppix.  whats up?
[19:25] <knoppix> have a floppy partitioned in 2 equal parts
[19:25] <knoppix> 1 for linux and 2nd for dos
[19:25] <knoppix> how to access the dos part
[19:25] <knoppix> i am currently on knoppix live dvd
[19:25] <Cuthbeorht> off hand, did u try to mount it?
[19:26] <knoppix> yes
[19:26] <Cuthbeorht> error msg?
[19:26] <knoppix> i can save files to the linux part but can't seem to access the dos
[19:26] <knoppix> sudo mount /dev/fd0 /mnt
[19:27] <knoppix> the 2 partitions are fd0p1 and fd0p2
[19:27] <Cuthbeorht> hmmm
[19:27] <Cuthbeorht> is there a reason u need to have 2 separate partitions?
[19:28] <Cuthbeorht> cuz i think dos formats floppies to fat
[19:28] <Cuthbeorht> and linux can easily read/write fat
[19:28] <knoppix> just practicing on a floppy instead on a hd
[19:28] <Cuthbeorht> i see
[19:28] <knoppix> let me give you the pastebin
[19:28] <Cuthbeorht> ur gonna have to forgive me, i havent used a floppy drive in a few years
[19:29] <knoppix> http://paste.ubuntu.com/464148/
[19:30] <knoppix> should it be any different from a hd?
[19:30] <knoppix> just another device anyways.. right?
[19:30] <Cuthbeorht> yes & no
[19:30] <Cuthbeorht> floppies are generally formatted in vfat
[19:30] <Cuthbeorht> hard drives use a host of other fs's
[19:31] <knoppix> i have noticed some livecds recognize  and mount everything automatically but some you have to manually mount
[19:31] <knoppix> well did you check the link i pasted?
[19:31] <Cuthbeorht> if linux can read it natviely, it will mount right away
[19:31] <knoppix> well knoppix, mepis and some others didn't
[19:32] <knoppix> but ubuntu, and some others i don't remember recognize all the devices and mount and even provide the icons on the desktop
[19:32] <Cuthbeorht> yeah
[19:32] <Cuthbeorht> i use ubunut mostly these days
[19:33] <Cuthbeorht> i left fedora and knoppix
[19:33] <Cuthbeorht> lemme look up a command
[19:33] <Cuthbeorht> brg
[19:33] <Cuthbeorht> brb*
[19:33] <knoppix> well the problem is that none of them allow me to save to the dos partition
[19:33] <knoppix> can't even see it
[19:33] <Maddeth> I just lost my Linux Drive :(
[19:34] <Maddeth> it just died
[19:34] <Cuthbeorht> ok
[19:34] <knoppix> and even if i mount it i still can't see it in Gparted or diskutility
[19:34] <knoppix> ha
[19:34] <knoppix> :(
[19:34] <Cuthbeorht> have u tried to mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /mnt/dos
[19:34] <knoppix> it wasn't me. :)
[19:34] <knoppix> no
[19:34] <knoppix> let me try
[19:35] <Cuthbeorht> kk
[19:35] <knoppix> i'm new to all this
[19:35] <Cuthbeorht> i havent used mount for a while
[19:35] <Cuthbeorht> lol
[19:35] <Cuthbeorht> ubuntu does it all for me
[19:35] <Maddeth> doing well too knoppix
[19:35] <Cuthbeorht> so im a litle rusty
[19:35] <Cuthbeorht> Maddeth, sorry bout ur hdd
[19:35] <Maddeth> Cuthbeorht: tried hitting it and everything!
[19:36] <Cuthbeorht> freezing it?
[19:36] <Cuthbeorht> LOL
[19:36] <knoppix> Cuthbeorht, will i have to create the dos dir first?
[19:36] <knoppix> hi Maddeth
[19:36] <knoppix> you back
[19:36] <Cuthbeorht> yes, knoppix
[19:36] <Maddeth> Cuthbeorht: nope, not tried freezing it yet
[19:36] <knoppix> ok
[19:36] <Maddeth> knoppix: Yup I am :)
[19:40] <knoppix> Cuthbeorht, here's the message i got http://paste.ubuntu.com/464175/
[19:40] <knoppix> Maddeth, you logged from home now?
[19:41] <knoppix> Maddeth, maybe the circuit board is shot
[19:42] <Cuthbeorht> knoppix:  imsorry
[19:42] <Cuthbeorht> i dont think i know enough to help ya, knoppix
[19:42] <knoppix> ok
[19:43] <knoppix> Cuthbeorht, thanks for trying
[19:44] <Maddeth> knoppix: nah, I just think its the floppy
[19:44] <Maddeth> working on somthing that small and partitioning
[19:44] <Maddeth> might not really recognise it
[19:44] <Maddeth> try a USB ped drive?
[19:45] <Maddeth> pen*
[19:46] <Maddeth> hi fores... hobgoblin
[19:47] <hobgoblin> hi madd..eth :)
[19:47] <Maddeth> ;)
[19:47] <hobgoblin> Maddeth: how's things in the sheep farm then?
[19:48] <Maddeth> hobgoblin: well, you know
[19:48] <Maddeth> work work
[19:48] <hobgoblin> yea - I know ...
[19:51] <Maddeth> when was the name change to hobgoblin
[19:51] <hobgoblin> couple of months ago I think
[19:53] <hobgoblin> fit's me better
[19:53] <Maddeth> because your evil and green?
[19:53] <hobgoblin> yep
[19:53] <hobgoblin> :)
[19:53] <Maddeth> fairy nuff
[19:54] <hobgoblin> grrrrr
[19:54] <hobgoblin> lol
[19:54] <Maddeth> :p
[19:54] <hobgoblin> you got your mark yet?
[19:54] <Maddeth> Mark?
[19:54] <hobgoblin> uni
[19:55] <Maddeth> Ah
[19:55] <Maddeth> 2:1
[19:55] <hobgoblin> cool :)
[19:55] <Maddeth> Got a graduate job in October
[19:55] <Maddeth> Just had a 10% payrise
[19:55] <hobgoblin> oh excellent - well done - oh another excellent :)
[19:55] <Maddeth> :)
[19:55] <hobgoblin> just about to send in an application for teacher training
[19:56] <Maddeth> cool
[19:56] <Maddeth> good luck
[19:56] <hobgoblin> hopeful I am :) spend a year teaching horrible stuff in sec school - then look for hippy science opportunities in colleges
[19:57] <Maddeth> :D
[19:58] <Maddeth> gonna dissapear for a bit :)
[19:59] <knoppix> Maddeth, why do you think it's the floppy
[20:00] <knoppix> you mean the floppy is faulty?
[20:00] <hobgoblin> knoppix: he's gone
[20:00] <knoppix> ha
[20:00] <knoppix> lol
[20:00] <knoppix> hobgoblin, you good in Command line
[20:01] <knoppix> ?
[20:01] <hobgoblin> good enough to do what I need to - I read what your issue is in the irc logs - not really able to help any, though I'd be inclined to check the floppy is enabled in BIOS
[20:05] <knoppix> don't think that's the issue
[20:06] <knoppix> i can access it through windows and many other live cd
[20:06] <hobgoblin> k
[20:06] <knoppix> and i created a file and saved it to floppy and it saves fine
[20:07] <hobgoblin> k
[20:07] <knoppix> but it saves it to the linux partition
[20:07] <knoppix> i just need to know how to access the dos partition
[20:08] <knoppix> i thought mounting the device would mount all the partitions as well
[20:08] <hobgoblin> so the issue is the mounting
[20:08] <knoppix> no
[20:08] <knoppix> well yes
[20:08] <knoppix> kinds
[20:08] <knoppix> kinda
[20:08] <knoppix> lol
[20:09] <knoppix> the 2 partitions are fd0p1 and fd0p2
[20:09] <knoppix> but when yoou mount you mount with " sudo mount /dev/fd0"
[20:09] <knoppix> well sudo mount /dev/fd0 /mnt
[20:10] <hobgoblin> you tried mounting the partition?
[20:10] <knoppix> or any directory you want to mount it to..
[20:10] <knoppix> i tried
[20:10] <knoppix> sudo mount /dev/fd0p2
[20:10] <knoppix> that does not work
[20:11] <knoppix> sudo mount /dev/fd0
[20:11] <knoppix> oops
[20:11] <hobgoblin> just reading the logs properly
[20:11] <knoppix> mount: special device /dev/fd0p2 does not exist
[20:12] <knoppix> this is the command i tried : knoppix@Microknoppix:/$ sudo mount /dev/fd0p2 /mnt/dos
[20:12] <knoppix> i first created the dos dir under /mnt
[20:12] <hobgoblin> well that would need the /mnt/dos dir to have been created - guessing you did that
[20:13] <knoppix> yes
[20:14] <knoppix> but this is exactly how you would do it on the hard drive ..
[20:15] <knoppix> i read somewhere that if you want linux and windoz to read a floppy then you would want to partition it with dos fs
[20:15] <knoppix> i'm new to all this and just practicing before i commit to hard drive
[20:15] <knoppix> just learning
[20:16] <knoppix> want to be totally familiar with command line way of doing things
[20:16] <hobgoblin> oh right - well I would say that working with hard drives is a lot easier than this :)
[20:17] <hobgoblin> knoppix: pastebin /etc/fstab
[20:17] <hobgoblin> please
[20:19] <knoppix> ok please hold
[20:21] <knoppix> hobgoblin, .. fstab is not a directory .. but here's /etc
[20:21] <knoppix> http://paste.ubuntu.com/464187/
[20:22] <hobgoblin> knoppix: sorry - I know it's not a directory - is there a file?  cat /etc/fstab
[20:22] <knoppix> oh .. pl hold
[20:23] <knoppix> http://paste.ubuntu.com/464188/
[20:25] <knoppix> you may notice that it has recognized my hard disk with 2 partition and my usb but not my floppy
[20:25] <hobgoblin> knoppix: just looking at some buntu bugs - what do you get from sudo mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 -o umask=000
[20:26] <knoppix> mount: mount point /media/floppy0 does not exist
[20:26] <hobgoblin> sudo mkdir /media/floppy0
[20:26] <knoppix> yes trying that
[20:26] <knoppix> lol
[20:27] <knoppix> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/fd0,
[20:27] <knoppix>        missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[20:27] <knoppix>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[20:27] <knoppix>        dmesg | tail  or so
[20:28] <knoppix> hobgoblin, do you have a floppy at home?
[20:28] <hobgoblin> nope
[20:28] <knoppix> oh
[20:28] <knoppix> lol
[20:28] <hobgoblin> long time gone :)
[20:28] <knoppix> yes
[20:29] <hobgoblin> sudo mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0
[20:30] <hobgoblin> try that - if not have a go at adding a line into fstab
[20:30] <knoppix> same message
[20:30] <hobgoblin> knoppix: sudo nano /etc/fstab
[20:30] <hobgoblin> go to the end - new line and add
[20:31] <knoppix> i'm there
[20:31] <hobgoblin> /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 vfat auto,users,uid=1000,gid=100,dmask=027,fmask=137,utf8  0  0
[20:32] <knoppix> done
[20:32] <knoppix> how do i get out of it
[20:32]  * hobgoblin guesses now ... then new line and then Ctrl+X then Y to save and whatever it is to exit
[20:32] <hobgoblin> then sudo mount -a
[20:35] <knoppix> added the line
[20:35] <knoppix> but still get the same message
[20:35] <knoppix> wrong fs blah blah
[20:35] <hobgoblin> k - as I thought - not able to add much ... last time I used a floppy it was in win2k
[20:36] <hobgoblin> sorry
[20:36] <hobgoblin> all I would say is that if you are just trying to play with floppies to get some idea of how to deal with a linux system you might well be better of running one in a virtual machine if possible
[20:37] <knoppix> hobgoblin, here's the dmesg | tail message http://paste.ubuntu.com/464192/
[20:38] <knoppix> perhaps i should change the fs type on the floppy to FAT on the 2nd partition..
[20:38] <knoppix> let me try that
[20:46] <knoppix> hobgoblin, i tried FAT and NTFS neither of them worked
[20:47] <knoppix> hobgoblin, i'm in an xchat window
[20:48] <knoppix> if i want to try another channel but remain on this one as well .. how do i do that
[20:48] <holstein> just type /join #channel
[20:50] <knoppix> but how do i get back the channel list
[20:50] <knoppix> i don't know the name of any channel .. i'm new to this
[20:51] <holstein> i forget exactly how xchat works
[20:51] <holstein> but its somewhere in the menu AFAIK
[20:51] <holstein> list channels
[20:51] <holstein> then you can just join the channel from there
[20:52] <holstein> knoppix: when i add partitions to fstab
[20:52] <knoppix> k
[20:52] <holstein> i use the big uuid number
[20:52] <holstein> knoppix: whats the issue?
[20:52] <holstein> you added parttions to fstab?
[20:52] <holstein> and cant boot?
[20:52] <knoppix> holstein, i'm practicing on a floppy
[20:52] <holstein> AH
[20:52] <holstein> gotcha
[20:53] <knoppix> would you liike to konw the issue?
[20:53] <holstein> sure
[20:53] <knoppix> k
[20:53]  * holstein was reading hte scroll back
[20:53] <knoppix> i'm using a live dvd
[20:53] <holstein> ok
[20:54] <knoppix> and trying things out on floppy.. just coz i went thru some video tutorials
[20:54] <knoppix> i did this.. : fdisk /dev/fd0
[20:54] <hobgoblin> sorry - was afk
[20:54] <holstein> right
[20:54] <knoppix> then used the n option to partition
[20:55] <knoppix> 2 equal partition
[20:55] <holstein> ok
[20:55] <knoppix> 1st is linux
[20:55] <holstein> ext2?
[20:55] <knoppix> and 2nd was dos
[20:55] <knoppix> and i tried fat and ntfs as well
[20:55] <holstein> fat32?
[20:55] <knoppix> fat16
[20:56] <holstein> thr partitions you made wouldnt mount?
[20:56] <holstein> the*
[20:56] <knoppix> when i use the "p" option to .. the partitions are fine
[20:56] <knoppix> well..
[20:57] <knoppix> the 2 partitions are :
[20:57] <knoppix> fd0p1 and fd0p2
[20:57] <knoppix> i can mount the floppy with /dev/fd0 /mnt
[20:58] <knoppix> but cannot do this .. sudo mount /dev/fd0p2
[20:58] <knoppix> to /mnt
[20:58] <holstein> hmmm
[20:58] <holstein> interesting
[20:58] <knoppix> so anyways
[20:58] <holstein> knoppix: have you tried the same thing with a USB stick?
[20:59] <knoppix> i can create and save a file to the linux partition but how to access the dos partition
[20:59] <knoppix> no
[20:59] <hobgoblin> knoppix: what tutorial were you following? do you have the link
[20:59] <knoppix> the usb is fine
[20:59] <holstein> try FAT32
[20:59] <knoppix> vtc
[21:00] <knoppix> let me get you the exact link
[21:01] <knoppix> http://www.vtc.com/modules/products/moviePlay.php?size=Large&foldername=linux&sku=33482&id=34507&movieCode=0303&movieName=Partitioning+With+fdisk&mode=flv
[21:01] <knoppix> or try this
[21:01] <knoppix> http://www.vtc.com/products/Introduction-to-Linux-tutorials.htm
[21:02] <knoppix> then go to the partitioning with fdisk
[21:02] <AJH101> Hi how do I run a command as a super user please?
[21:02] <holstein> sudo command
[21:02] <holstein> in a terminal
[21:03] <knoppix> holstein, did you get the linlk?
[21:05] <AJH101> I need to discover what chipset i am running to update my video driver (apparently). how do i go about this? someone gave me a command to run in terminal but it required me to be a super user!
[21:05] <holstein> hey AJH101
[21:05] <AJH101> hi
[21:05] <holstein> was it lspci ?
[21:06] <holstein> AJH101: try lspci -v
[21:06] <holstein> see if thats the info you are looking for
[21:06] <holstein> whats the problem with your graphics?
[21:06] <holstein> knoppix: i got the vid to start
[21:07] <AJH101> am trying to run regnum online but am being told my card is not supported!
[21:07] <holstein> AJH101: by whom ?
[21:08] <AJH101> i get the message when i start it
[21:09] <knoppix> holstein, ok
[21:09] <holstein> yeah, i wouldnt belive that
[21:09] <holstein> AJH101: is it flash?
[21:09] <holstein> java?
[21:09] <AJH101> 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Memory Controller Hub (rev 07)
[21:09] <AJH101> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
[21:09] <AJH101> is this the data i need?
[21:09] <AJH101> no idea!
[21:09] <holstein> when you go to http://www.regnumonline.com.ar/ do you see a video playing?
[21:10] <holstein> AJH101: i think the issue is not your hardware
[21:10] <holstein> i think its a software issue
[21:10] <AJH101> yes it runs
[21:11] <hobgoblin> knoppix: so you created the partitions with fdisk - did you then go and make filesystems in the partitions?
[21:11] <knoppix> i tried
[21:11] <knoppix> but not getting success in that
[21:12] <knoppix> do i have to mount first then make the fs?
[21:12] <holstein> AJH101: check out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=657885
[21:13] <hobgoblin> knoppix: no - from memory unmounted
[21:13] <AJH101> will do thanks
[21:14] <knoppix> well i thought you provided me the sudo command with the -t option to create the fs .. right?
[21:14] <hobgoblin> knoppix: what are the two partitions called on the floppy
[21:14] <hobgoblin> knoppix: no that is trying to mount the partition
[21:14] <knoppix> fd0p1 and fd0p2
[21:15] <hobgoblin> knoppix: fd0p1 is the linux one is it?
[21:15] <knoppix> ok.. i tried the sudo mkfs -t blah blah
[21:15] <knoppix> yes
[21:16] <knoppix> that's the command i've been asking everyone.. how to create the fs on fd0p2
[21:17] <knoppix> sudo mkfs -t 86 /dev/fd02?
[21:17] <knoppix> where 86 is the hex for NTFS
[21:17] <hobgoblin> what is fd02
[21:17] <knoppix> sorry.. fd0p2
[21:18] <knoppix> http://paste.ubuntu.com/464209/
[21:19] <hobgoblin> knoppix:try  mkfs.vfat /dev/fd0p2
[21:19] <hobgoblin> might need sudo
[21:20] <AJH101> hi this time i do get as far as logging in then same error!#
[21:22] <knoppix> hobgoblin, did that.. now ?
[21:22] <hobgoblin> knoppix: and if that works mkfs -t ext3 /dev/fd0p1
[21:22] <hobgoblin> then try sudo mount -a again
[21:22] <knoppix> k
[21:23] <hobgoblin> if you go no errors after the first command it should have worked
[21:23] <hobgoblin> also maybe sudo mount /dev/fd0p1 /media/floppy0
[21:24] <knoppix> hobgoblin, the 2nd one didn't work
[21:24] <hobgoblin> if that doesn't do it then I have no idea ...
[21:24] <knoppix> Could not stat /dev/fd0p1 --- No such file or directory
[21:24] <knoppix> The device apparently does not exist; did you specify it correctly?
[21:24] <hobgoblin> try mkfs /dev/fd0p1
[21:25] <knoppix> same message
[21:26] <holstein> AJH101: what is the error exactly?
[21:26] <holstein> incorrect driver?
[21:26] <hobgoblin> knoppix: will the other one mount = sudo mkdir /media/fd2 &&sudo mount /dev/fd0p2 /media/fd2
[21:26] <holstein> intel is usually well supported :/
[21:27] <knoppix> let me try
[21:27] <AJH101> unsupported video card :-(
[21:27] <knoppix> mount: special device /dev/fd0p2 does not exist
[21:28] <holstein> AJH101: if thats true
[21:28] <hobgoblin> knoppix: can;t help anymore - sorry
[21:28] <AJH101> ?
[21:28] <holstein> thers nothing you can do software wise
[21:28] <hobgoblin> wew're just going round in circles
[21:28] <holstein> i would poke around on that site
[21:28] <holstein> maybe send an email
[21:28] <holstein> ask
[21:28] <AJH101> update driver?
[21:29] <holstein> not if the card isnt supported
[21:29] <holstein> AFAIK
[21:29] <AJH101> fair enough thanks anyway
[21:29] <holstein> you could try
[21:29] <holstein> booting in safe graphics mode
[21:29] <holstein> but i dought that will do it
[21:30] <holstein> i think the email would be the best bet
[21:30] <holstein> include that line from lspci
[21:30] <holstein> cant hurt
[21:30] <AJH101> thanks
[21:30] <AJH101> :-)
[21:34] <hobgoblin> knoppix: have a look at http://www.vtc.com/modules/products/moviePlay.php?size=Large&foldername=linux&sku=33482&id=34509&movieCode=0305&movieName=Making+File+Systems+With+mkfs&mode=flv
[21:34] <hobgoblin> well I'm off now - night
[21:35] <knoppix> i went through all that
[21:56] <knoppix> holstein, did you check out the videos
[23:58] <Ger> pedro you here
[23:58] <pedro3005> hello Ger
[23:58] <Ger> hi