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stanley_robertsohi all.. anyone online ?03:24
cyphermoxstanley_robertso, hi03:26
stanley_robertsohi cyphermox03:26
stanley_robertsocyphermox, need a small info.. I have applied for bugsquad membership.. any idea.. how much it might take .. to get approved03:27
cyphermoxstanley_robertso, if you mean how long, I'd say it usually takes about a week to get an answer, maybe? I'm honestly not sure :)03:28
stanley_robertsocyphermox, thanks .. so i have to wait for 1 week.. to start working on bugs.. i guess so .. am i right ?03:29
cyphermoxstanley_robertso, no, please do start now ;)03:29
stanley_robertsocyphermox,  where we can see the active/open bugs.. i searched the ubuntu wiki page.. but could not get a link.. might be i missed somewhere03:30
cyphermoxstanley_robertso, you can still help confirm bugs and ask reporters to get more info, or file upstream bugs, etc.03:30
cyphermoxstanley_robertso, what do you mean by active and open bugs? you might be interested in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.importance%3Alist=UNDECIDED&assignee_option=none&field.has_no_package=on03:32
cyphermoxstanley_robertso, ^ those are bugs needing to get assigned to the right package03:34
stanley_robertsocyphermox, thanks a lot ... cool.. will have a look and dig into them ;)03:35
roopeshcyphermox, stanley_robertson here ....04:10
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zimiohey should I mark this  as a support question? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/60568304:56
ubot2Launchpad bug 605683 in firefox (Ubuntu) "allow monochrome fonts in firefox (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]04:56
micahgzimio: no04:58
zimiouh xD thank you04:59
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stanley_robertsoany bug squad member online ?06:50
drew212hey micahg, firefox -ProfileManager doesn't start the profile manager =X06:53
micahgdrew212: sure it does, if firefox is closed06:55
drew212micahg: just tested that =D06:56
sbeattiedrew212: include -no-remote if there's an already running firefox and you want to start another instance of firefox under a different profile.07:15
drew212sbeattie: nice, thank you!07:15
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stanley_robertsohi abhi_nav07:34
abhi_navhi stanley_robertso07:34
stanley_robertsohi abhi_nav .. are you into bug squad ?07:47
abhi_navstanley_robertso, yes08:03
abhi_navstanley_robertso, ping08:06
trinikronomornings all08:23
vish!ask | stanley_robertso08:25
ubot2stanley_robertso: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)08:25
vishregarding " <stanley_robertso> any bug squad member online ?  " :)08:25
ddecatorah vish, the master of factoids :)08:25
vishstanley_robertso: in my experience , when such questions are asked less people volunteer :D ...  they dont often want to get stuck with answering about things they dont know ;)08:27
trinikronotell him to ask the mighty google :D08:28
ddecatorvish: if you get a chance, can you let me know if my email about my students was enough?08:28
vishddecator: email enough?  i didnt understand08:28
ddecatorvish: i replied to pedro's email asking about the status of students, not sure if my response was detailed enough08:29
vishah ...08:29
* vish checks mails08:29
vishddecator: looks great!.. thats about the right amount of info :)08:31
ddecatorvish: alright, thanks :)08:31
vishnigelb: you asked to de-activate saby , have you tried contacting him again?08:32
vishmaybe remind him?08:32
vishnigelb: remind him that there are others waiting , and if there is no response or if he is busy now , we can de-activate him for now and then add him later08:33
ddecatorvish: btw, stlsaint has tried to get a mentor a few times before without luck. he's excited to help out, so if there is someone that would be good for him ;)08:34
vishddecator: yeah , i know stlsaint and a few others are waiting.. :s08:34
ddecatorstlsaint: there you go they know08:35
vishwe need to sort out the lurking inactive students first..08:35
trinikronohappy hugday :D https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/2010071508:35
trinikronoi hope you guys use pidgin like me08:35
stlsaintddecator: :D08:43
stlsaintddecator: you *do* love me!08:43
ddecatorstlsaint: of course! i love all triagers!08:43
stlsaintddecator: well technically im not one yet! ;)08:46
vishddecator: if you can take another student , it would be quicker for stlsaint  ;)08:46
ddecatorstlsaint: and potential triagers ;)08:46
stlsaintddecator: uh oh...ball is in your court!08:47
vishstlsaint: its too much to ask from ddecator :)08:47
vishhe already has 208:47
ddecatorvish: well drew212 is very close to being ready for BC (he might already be, need to review some of his more recent work) so if there isn't anyone else then i can take on stlsaint after drew graduates08:47
stlsaintvish: i see08:47
ddecatorplus i'm part of the new BugSquad/Beginners Team mentorship combo now, haha08:48
vishstlsaint: so , yeah , i'll ask again today , we'll try to get you a mentor soon :)08:48
stlsaintddecator: the *very* new08:48
vishstlsaint: in the mean while you can always ask here..08:48
ddecatorstlsaint: indeed08:48
stlsaintvish: orly?08:49
stlsaintvish: i can make a public room announcement :D08:49
vishstlsaint: yeah , abhi_nav , got hold of om26er by asking here08:49
vishstlsaint: btw , i first meant about asking questions here , but sure you can poach ;p08:50
ddecatorthat's how trinikrono got assigned to me, haha08:50
trinikronoi poach alot lol08:50
stlsainttrinikrono: got any poaching tips :D08:54
stlsaintvish: well i actually havent started triaging anything just yet....just read up on the guide some :(08:54
trinikronostlsaint:  as ddecator would say join the 5-a-day08:55
vishstlsaint: assigning bugs to packages is a good start :  http://tiny.cc/s36xt08:55
ddecatorwell you two stole the words out of my mouth..08:55
trinikronoerm the hugday tools and the greese monkey scripts08:58
ddecatorthose too08:58
ddecatorstlsaint: you're welcome to ping me, but i just can't handle taking you on as an official student atm :)08:58
trinikronostlsaint:  you can pm me too if i can help08:59
trinikronohttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/EasyTasks you rem this page ddecator lol09:02
ddecatoroh yah, that one i had never heard of, haha09:03
ddecatori feel like i did my part as a mentor right now :)09:03
kermiacThe new sort options on edge are nice! http://imgbin.org/images/2038.png09:06
vishhmm , never knew of that page either!09:06
visheasy tasks!09:07
kermiachey stlsaint, what packages are you interested in mate?09:08
ddecatorkermiac: those are new in edge? oh..i've used them a fair amount already, haha09:09
kermiacddecator: maybe only new for me haha... I hadn't noticed the bug heat, # of comments, etx09:09
ddecatorkermiac: multitasking enough?09:10
kermiacddecator: that's only one lot of ff windows.... my poor ff hates me. I've got around 10 ff windows open with close to the same amount of tabs09:11
vishkermiac: yay , wanna be a mentor?09:11
ddecatorkermiac: whoa mate, i can't keep track of more than 6-8 tabs at a time, haha09:11
vishkermiac: add yourself to the list with mention of time available : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Mentors/09:12
ddecatorvish: no pressure ;)09:12
kermiacvish: maybe... I've been talking to Dray about it lately. I'm interested in helping out I just don't know what times I'll be available. It varies09:12
trinikronohey what do we do with sig crashes in pidgin?09:12
* stlsaint is sorting bookmark manager09:13
vishddecator: you care about stlsaint or not ? ;p09:13
yofel_kermiac: are those new? I've used them for quite a while now ^^09:13
ddecatorvish: of course i do. you trying to get mitch to be his mentor? haha09:13
kermiacyofel_:  yeah, it seems like they're not... I obviously am not as observant as I thought i was :P09:13
ddecatormorning BUGabundo_remote09:13
vishddecator: nah , not necessarily , for stlsaint but just if he is interested :)09:14
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vishthere are several others waiting ..09:14
vishstudents ..09:14
ddecatorafter this first batch graduates there shouldn't be as much backlog (i hope)09:15
ddecatorthen again, if it becomes more popular :)09:15
stanley_robertsohi ddecator09:15
kermiacvish: is there a list of students? My timezone is UTC +1009:15
ddecatorhi stanley_robertso09:15
stanley_robertsoiam newebie to this bug team .. thought of being online in the channel09:16
vishkermiac: the list of students waiting : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Mentors/Students , but if you can add you time available , we can assign the student depending on the match09:16
ddecatorstanley_robertso: that's a great place to start :)09:16
vishmentors page : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Mentors/09:17
kermiacvish: ok, I'll add myself :) But i cant guarantee I'll be available at the same time each day09:17
ddecatorkermiac: few people can, as long as you're generally available09:18
vishkermiac: yup , no one is always ;) , but you can fix the time with your students09:18
vishthat days rather..09:18
stanley_robertsoddecator, vish .. i have applied for new member to the bug team.. can somebody help me .. in getting it approved.09:18
ddecatorbtw, if anybody can give me feedback on the wiki style change i proposed, right now the responses have been about 50/5009:18
vishhggdh: bdmurray :  stanley_robertso seems to be waiting for BugSquad Membership09:19
vishstanley_robertso: post your lp link here09:19
vishddecator: ++++09:19
stanley_robertsohere it is vish .. https://launchpad.net/~roopesh-majeti09:20
vishhggdh: bdmurray ^09:20
vishstanley_robertso: they will add you once they come online.. they are in different timezones ;)09:22
vishnigelb: ?09:24
stanley_robertsosure vish09:25
stanley_robertsoddecator, vish .. one small question..when we analyze and fix issues.. which release we generally target for.. i have Ubuntu 9.10 installed on my machine09:27
ddecatorusually development09:27
trinikrono+1 lol09:28
ddecatorbut you don't have to use the development release09:28
ddecatorit's not a requirement for triage, we just like things to be tested on the development release09:28
stanley_robertsoddecator, cool.. so i can test the bugs in 9.10 version and take further tests.. I guess .. when a mentor will be assigned to me.. i can ask/bother my mentor with all these questions :)09:29
ddecatorsure, or ask them here :)09:30
kermiachey vish, I added myself to the mentor page. Do you want me to send an email to the BC list? It seems like all the requested info is what I just added to the wiki page09:33
stlsaintfor giggles: http://lkml.org/lkml/2010/4/1/12809:34
vishkermiac: cool! no need for BC list , just apply to the mentor team , and I'll approve you09:38
stlsaintposter was pretty serious about editing a config and turning a processor into its counterpart :D09:38
yofelstanley_robertso: information about using the development release can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/UsingDevelopmentReleases usually it's best to use it in a VirtualMachine09:38
kermiacvish: done09:39
stanley_robertsoyes yofel .. iam using the ubuntu on vmware itself :)09:39
kermiacdoes anyone know of a gwibber bug re not being able to post to facebook?09:43
ddecatori haven't run into that..09:43
vishkermiac: approved! :)09:43
kermiacddecator: ok, thanks mate I'll keep looking. I had 2 people talking to me about it today09:44
kermiacthanks vish :)09:44
vishkermiac: thank you :)09:44
stanley_robertsokermiac, can u eloborate the gwibber bug .. a little..09:55
stanley_robertsoor any web link .. about it09:56
kermiachey stanley_robertso. I don't have a bug #. 2 of the people that I support are having an issue where they can't post to facebook. I just fired up gwibber & am experiencing the same issue. I still haven't investigated the issue much at all but it's probably related to bug #59526509:58
ubot2Launchpad bug 595265 in gwibber (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 3 other projects) "Can not add Facebook account as add button not displayed after authorisation. (affects: 104) (dups: 16) (heat: 478)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/59526509:58
kermiacif I understand it correctly, most gwibber & fb issues seem to be stemming from that problem. But as I said, I haven't really looked into it much yet09:59
ddecatorkermiac: have you tried restarting gwibber? (kill gwibber-service and restart)09:59
kermiacthat was the first thing I tried Dray. Running gwibber in debug mode spits a lot of "TypeError: string indices must be integers" errors10:01
ddecatorno idea then. i haven't had issues with it, but i have posted to FB from gwibber in a few days10:01
stanley_robertsoiam planning to install gwibber and give it a shot .. :) in 9.10 ubuntu version10:02
kermiacI haven't tried killing off the fb settings in gwibber yet & forcing it to re-authorise. It seems that I haven't had updates from fb in gwibber for around a week. I'll look into it further when i have more time, 595265 seems to explain the issue though10:03
ddecatorworked for me in karmic before i upgraded10:03
ddecatorkermiac: oh yah, i had to go in there lately and re-authorize. i didn't have to delete the account, but i did have to re-authorize because it wasn't updating. now it's working10:04
kermiacddecator: ah, hopefully that will do the trick :)10:05
ddecatorsorry Mitch, forgot i had to do that a few days ago, haha10:05
kermiachaha, no probs Dray :)10:05
nigelbvish: I'm not admin. poke ara10:29
nigelb(or pedro)10:29
vishnigelb: hmm? for which?  I was asking about saby10:29
nigelbvish: ah, er10:30
nigelbwhat were you asking?10:30
vishnigelb:  nigelb: you asked to de-activate saby , have you tried contacting him again? ,  nigelb: remind him that there are others waiting , and if there is no response or if he is busy now , we can de-activate him for now and then add him later10:31
nigelbvish: I'll do that when I get home10:36
vishnigelb: neat!10:36
trinikronoanyone from bugcontrol here10:53
trinikronoi believe bug 596426 can be wishlisted10:54
ubot2Launchpad bug 596426 in pidgin (Ubuntu) "So tiny "×" to click to close tabs (affects: 1) (heat: 162)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/59642610:54
abhi_navstanley_robertso, you want to talk something?11:47
yofelmvo: would bug 535509 be something for a SRU?12:48
ubot2Launchpad bug 535509 in apt (Ubuntu) "apt-get always crash with Segmentation fault (core dumped) if /var/log/apt doesn't exist. (affects: 39) (dups: 15) (heat: 171)" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/53550912:48
mvoyofel: ok12:53
yofelmvo: can you do it (In the case you have time) or should I make a debdiff and search for a sponsor?13:11
mvoyofel: its just a cherry pick, the fix is in bzr already, but feel free to identify the right revision13:24
yofelmvo: the log says r177113:26
mvoyofel: you suggest a lucid SRU, right? its fine in maverick13:32
stanley_robertsohi all13:32
yofelmvo: yes13:33
mvoyofel: ok, I prepare a upload now, could you please write the TEST CASE section for the sru?13:36
mvoyofel: uploaded to lucid-proposed13:37
yofelmvo: done, I'll try the proposed package when it's build13:55
mvoyofel: thanks! I move it up in the page13:56
mvoyofel: updated13:57
mvoyofel: many thanks :)13:57
yofelthank YOU ;)13:58
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stanley_robertsohi all14:38
yofelhi stanley_robertso14:38
stanley_robertso I have applied for membership to bug squad team.. can somebody approve it .. or let me know.. how to reach .. to get it approved14:38
stanley_robertsohi yofel14:38
stanley_robertsohi penguin4214:39
yofelstanley_robertso: if you applied please be patient, can take a day or 2 until the admins get to it, and you can start triaging right away anyway14:39
stanley_robertsothanks yofel for the info .. can u give me the weblink [ if handy ] .. to start triaging14:40
yofelstanley_robertso: have you read the triage guide?14:40
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hggdhvish: roopesh-majeti was declined14:41
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stanley_robertsohggdh, can i know.. why is it declined ? its me roopesh-majeti14:42
vishhggdh: yeah , he had some problem with the COC , i think it is sorted out now?14:42
hggdhvish: he did not sign the CoC.14:42
hggdhstanley_robertso: the email you received lists the reasons14:42
stanley_robertsohggdh, i forgot to do the CoC in the first time.. but when i got the rejection email .. i did the CoC and re-requested again14:42
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vishhggdh: oddly it shows as signed for me : https://launchpad.net/~roopesh-majeti14:42
vishmaybe I'm missing something..14:43
hggdhvish: he just signed it (after being declined)14:43
vishhggdh: ah , cool , yeah , we just sorted that out today afternoon14:43
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* hggdh wonders if bright neon on the bugsquad page will make the requirements more visible14:44
vishhggdh: +1 :)14:44
hggdhstanley_robertso: I will approve you in 30 min (gotta finish my breakfast)14:44
stanley_robertsohggdh, thanks a lot and vish thanks for helping me14:45
stanley_robertsovish, do we have any indian channel for ubuntu or ubuntu-bug-squad ?14:50
stanley_robertsojust wondering, if we have it14:50
vishstanley_robertso: there is #ubuntu-in14:50
vishbut its not specifically for bugs..14:50
abhijithi vish14:54
vishabhijit: o/14:55
abhijitvish, heyyyyyyy you dotn know me? ohs that so sad :(14:55
vishi know abhijit > abhi_nav  ;)14:56
stanley_robertsothanks vish14:56
abhijitvish, :D14:56
abhijitvish, I need to changed it because I was facing lots of look a like nick issues. :(14:56
nigelbheh, he's trying to write a session and everyone is suddenly pinging him :p14:58
* thekorn hugs vish 15:02
hggdhstanley_robertso: done, welcome in15:08
stanley_robertsothanks a lot hggdh15:10
stanley_robertsohggdh, just a quck question .. all the new members.. should go through the self analysis and start working .. or i guess like mentor-mentee mechanism exists15:20
hggdhstanley_robertso: you can start work any time, now, for example, it is a good moment ;-)15:22
stanley_robertsolol hggdh15:23
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* nigelb waves to hggdh :)15:41
nigelbpedro_: I spoke to a DD friend of mine15:41
nigelbShe's going to take a session next week or the week after during package training session15:41
micahgpedro_: FYI, hugday main page still showing July 1215:42
nigelb"Working with the Debian BTS - (not only) for Ubuntu Contributors"15:42
nigelbprobably we could make use of that session too from a bug squad point of view :)15:42
pedro_micahg, updated , thanks15:47
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pedro_nigelb, that'd be great , could you send an email to the bugsquad after decided when the session is going to be?15:48
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nigelbpedro_: sure, will do :)15:48
pedro_nigelb, thanks a lot ;-)15:48
nigelbNo problem, though we should have had it for UDW, it was a good topic to follow up after our session :)15:49
pedro_nigelb, indeed, but better a bit late than never ;-)15:51
dyfetI need https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vsftpd/+bug/604185 marked as triaged...16:31
ubot2Launchpad bug 604185 in vsftpd (Ubuntu) "Unable to start vsftpd with upstart if private key (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Medium,Confirmed]16:32
dholbachDay 4 of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloper Week starts in 23 minutes in #ubuntu-classroomDay 4 of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloper Week starts in 23 minutes in #ubuntu-classroom16:37
hggdhhi nigelb, how's life?16:43
nigelbhggdh: going great :)17:00
njinpedro_: holaaa!!18:01
pedro_njin, hello there ;-)18:01
pedro_DrKenobi, got my email ?18:01
DrKenobipedro_ yes! i've just finished working, now i'll do some personal stuff, like answering your email! :)18:03
pedro_DrKenobi, awesome! ;-)18:03
* DrKenobi Lunch18:03
pedro_DrKenobi, enjoy18:04
njinpedro_: can i start with mine bugs without package ?18:05
pedro_njin, yeap drop me questions if you have one18:05
njinpedro_: i'm oriented to ask debugging for network manager and  request to add syslog and dmesg https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/60586418:20
ubot2Launchpad bug 605864 in ubuntu "The wifi downstream and upstream goes to 0 every couple of seconds (affects: 2) (heat: 12)" [Undecided,Incomplete]18:20
pedro_njin, not sure if that's a network manager issue though, could be a driver or hardware one, but the logs asked on the NM documentation might help you to determine that18:22
pedro_njin, have a look to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingNetworkManager and request the files18:23
cyphermoxnjin: asking for apport-collect results would be nice, too, since it includes the interesting stuff from syslog, and the details about the wifi device18:46
njinok, thanks18:46
stanley_robertsohi all18:57
drew212if someone is using an unsupported release, how do we handle the bugs?19:05
jpdsUnless it still applies for a newer release.19:06
stanley_robertso jpds .. you mean.. if the bug is still existing [ reproducable in new release as well ] .. then we need to consider it ?19:07
drew212what response should I give, ask him to update to a supported release and check if the bug still applies?19:07
hggdhstanley_robertso: correct19:10
hggdhdrew212: if it is easy for you to test, then please go ahead and test it; otherwise close INVALID (unsupported, please check on current, etc, etc, see BugResponses)19:11
drew212its 8.10, I'm currently running 10.04LTS19:11
stanley_robertsohggdh, just getting in pace with the process.. if we see a bug that is reported.. and if we are working in a particular release [ say 9.10 ].. then we can fix the bug even in 9.10 [ though the bug is reported in diff release  ] ofcourse backporting the fix19:12
hggdhdrew212: that's good, you are running current Ubuntu. So, can you easily test the bug19:12
drew212he didn't provide enough details to recreate the bug though... so i'm going to have to ask for steps to recreate19:13
hggdhstanley_robertso: usually we fix a bug on the current development release first; then we may consider SRU -- Stable Release Update -- for previous versions of Ubuntu19:13
hggdhdrew212: in this case, simply close and ask the OP to test on a current version19:13
stanley_robertsohggdh, got it .. so in that case.. i think, i need to update my ubuntu to current dev release  [ being a bugsquad member, is it mandatory ? ]19:18
drew212stanley_robertso: it's not mandatory, but its easier IMHO19:18
stanley_robertsook, cool.19:19
dyfetstanley_robertso: there are also things that can be done with just a dev chroot19:19
drew212stanley_robertso: that way you can check yourself if the bug is still a problem in the current release, and you can VM older versions if needed19:19
stanley_robertsodyfet, sorry i didnot get you ... "dev chroot"19:21
dyfetyou can for example create a maverick environment in a chroot19:21
stanley_robertsooh ok19:22
njin_pedro_: this is similar https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/59337719:22
ubot2Launchpad bug 593377 in ubuntu "Ubuntu 10.4 fails to connect to linksys range expander WRE54 3.0 (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Incomplete]19:22
stanley_robertsodyfet, hggdh drew212  .. just one small question ... currently iam on ubuntu 9.10 .. so i guess i will better upgrade it to latest version .. is there a way to do it .. on command line .. or better to have another instance of VM [ with latest dev release ]19:23
hggdhstanley_robertso: any version upgrade is something to be considered carefully. I do *not* recommend you to upgrade to Maverick (current dev)19:24
drew212stanley_robertso: i would just VM the current dev version19:25
charlie-tcaI use virtual box to test bugs in the development release19:25
stanley_robertsohggdh, ok.. got it .. so i would create another instance on VM.. having Marverick19:25
hggdhstanley_robertso: Maverick (soon to be 10.10) is *NOT* stable. But you might try the live CD/DVD to see how 10.04 works on your system19:25
drew212stanley_robertso: exactly, otherwise your system may become unstable19:25
stanley_robertsocharlie-tca, i guess most of us do the same .. use Virtual box.. for this stuff19:25
hggdhstanley_robertso: yes, running Maverick on a VM is better19:26
drew212stanley_robertso: and if you like 9.10 you can always VM 10.04 AND 10.1019:26
stanley_robertsohggdh, actually there is no option for me, as i learn all this stuff on my laptop, given by my company .. so HAVE to go with a VM :)19:26
charlie-tcaUnless you really enjoy the more treacherous route. Using virtual machines allows testing in any version, too19:26
stanley_robertsoi mean Virtual Machine19:26
drew212stanley_robertso: there is no "golden rule" for bugsquad19:27
hggdhstanley_robertso: indeed ;-)19:27
stanley_robertsodrew212, i guess yes.. i could figure it.. from the conversations happening here19:28
stanley_robertsodrew212, hggdh dyfet .. have a nice time ahead.. iam logging off to have a nap :)19:28
drew212stanley_robertso: alright, good luck and have a nice nap *thumbup*19:29
stanley_robertsohey.. sorry that i forgot one thing.. i downloaded ubuntu-10.04-desktop-i386.iso .. now in Virtual bOx.. when i try to bring thi up.. it just shows blank screen and nothing else .. [ after showing the ubuntu symbol/logo ] .. is there any problem with the .iso19:30
micahgdrew212: I think what hggdh meant by current version was any supported version, not just 10.04, a simple upgrade to 9.04 would be enough for us to support the user19:43
hggdhmicahg: indeed, badly worded from my part19:44
drew212micahg: ok, figured current meant 10.0419:45
njin_pedro_: are you in ?19:47
drew212micahg: is there a way to find out what releases of firefox are still supported, like ubuntu's releases page?19:48
micahgdrew212: what do you mean?19:48
micahgdrew212: you're wondering what's current for each release?19:49
drew212i don't know how to explain it well, how do i know what software is supported on each release of ubuntu, such as the error when i told the guy using hardy to install flashplugin-installer, and whatnot19:51
drew212or what firefox versions are still supported on older versions of ubuntu, its kindof messy because i don't have a list anywhere...19:51
micahgdrew212: you can install devscripts, theres a script called rmadison that you pass a package name to and it'll tell you what's in the archvie19:57
trinikronormadison firefox :D19:57
drew212micahg: that would work19:57
drew212i have the scripts installed i think, cuz rmadison worked19:57
drew212so if it's not listed there its not supported on that release?19:59
drew212what if more than one version is supported for the release? is it best to ask them to upgrade to see if the bug still applies?19:59
trinikronouse !Release+1 Testing20:00
trinikronofrom the greese monkey scripts20:00
drew212sorry for the montage of questions =P20:00
drew212it says that the dev release is Karmic Koala =P20:01
trinikronoi needed to change it also20:01
drew212what should i do to further this bug: bug 58037120:07
ubot2Launchpad bug 580371 in pidgin (Ubuntu) "it doesnt start at all (affects: 1) (heat: 58)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/58037120:07
drew212at first i thought i should ask him to reopen the bug with a crash report, but the program doesn't even start now...20:08
njin_pedro_: are you in?20:14
pedro_njin_, yes i'm here i was having lunch, what's up?20:14
njin_this is similar https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/593377 can you take a look ?20:15
ubot2Launchpad bug 593377 in ubuntu "Ubuntu 10.4 fails to connect to linksys range expander WRE54 3.0 (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Incomplete]20:15
pedro_njin_, similar to... ?20:15
njin_to https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/60586420:16
ubot2Launchpad bug 605864 in ubuntu "The wifi downstream and upstream goes to 0 every couple of seconds (affects: 2) (heat: 14)" [Undecided,Incomplete]20:16
njin_pedro_: i've a question too20:19
pedro_doesn't looks like to me, but let's see what the logs said20:20
pedro_njin_, btw if you request logs with apport-collect for bugs without a package you need to specify the package20:20
pedro_example: apport-collect -p network-manager 12345620:20
njin_Ops, i never used apport collect and someone here conseil me to use it, sorry20:21
pedro_no worries ;-)20:21
drew212doing a distro upgrade to 10.10 on my VM, hopefully it doesnt break it =P20:22
njin_pedro_: i've noted that there's much bug dated more than one year ago, what i have to do to manage it ?20:22
pedro_njin_, i'm not following, could you elaborate a bit more?20:24
njin_pedro_: like this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/36061920:25
ubot2Launchpad bug 360619 in ubuntu "only top gnome panel moves to secondary monitor on metamode change (affects: 2) (heat: 7)" [Undecided,New]20:25
pedro_njin_, ok, for those old bugs please ask the reporter if it's still reproducible on latest packages with Lucid or Maverick and set it to Incomplete20:27
pedro_btw a similar issue was fixed with an SRU for gnome-panel a few weeks ago20:27
njin_ok, thanks20:28
drew212if i mark a bug as invalid because it needs a crash report, do i mark it as triaged for the hugday?20:28
pedro_drew212, yes please ;-)20:28
drew212pedro_: how do i get the init to work for me?20:31
pedro_drew212, is firefox closed ?20:33
drew212pedro_: no20:33
pedro_drew212, you need to close it, otherwise i cannot access the cookies.sqlite file20:33
drew212i was reading it to get the hugday init working20:34
drew212where are the cookie files located?20:34
pedro_drew212, yeah i think we put a note on that20:34
njin_pedro_: done https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/36061920:34
pedro_ ~/.mozilla/firefox/profile/cookies.sqlite20:34
ubot2Launchpad bug 360619 in ubuntu "only top gnome panel moves to secondary monitor on metamode change (affects: 2) (heat: 14)" [Undecided,Incomplete]20:34
pedro_drew212, replace the profile for your id there20:35
yofelbdmurray: can you update http://people.canonical.com/~brian/greasemonkey/bugsquad-replies.xml please? It says '... of the development release - Karmic Koala.' In Release+1 testing.20:35
drew212pedro_: how do i find the path to the cookie?20:35
yofeldrew212: thanks for finding that20:35
drew212pedro_: nevermind =P20:36
pedro_njin_, looks good ;-)20:36
drew212says i'm not allowed to change the content of the page =X20:36
fotuenti_hi, so i've found a bug. how do i submit it without joining the bug-squad? or is that even possible20:37
yofel!bugs | fotuenti_20:38
ubot2fotuenti_: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs - Bugs in/wishes for the IRC bots (not Ubuntu) can be filed at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots20:38
fotuenti_i'm not a regular ubuntu user, but help some folks here in the office20:38
yofelfotuenti_: what's the bug btw.?20:38
fotuenti_libfltk1.1-dev, fltk-config reports the wrong cxxflags. i'm guessing whoever packaged it had a bad string or some-such20:39
fotuenti_it's pretty corner case stuff20:39
drew212pedro_: its giving me a runtime error... saying i'm not allowed to change the content and to run hugday init again...20:41
njin_pedro_: now i've to leave because my wife is hitting me, but today is a big day, I'm on the hall of fame in the top ISO tester (2) http://hall-of-fame.ubuntu.com/  ;-)20:41
yofeldrew212: are you logged in on the wiki page?20:41
drew212i was before i killed firefox20:41
fotuenti_so, do i need to have a launchpad account to report this?20:41
yofelfotuenti_: yes20:41
drew212idk if i'm getting the id's in correctly...20:42
drew212yofel: would that make a difference?20:42
yofelhm, it should be as easy as 'hugday init --user <USERNAME>  --cookie ~/.mozilla/$profile/cookies.sqlite'20:43
micahgyofel: yes, if you're logged in :)20:43
yofeler... .mozilla/firefox/...20:44
pedro_njin_, awesome! congrats!!20:44
njin_pedro_: thanks, have a big day you too :)20:45
drew212yofel: now its giving me a no such file or directory... lol20:46
yofeldrew212: .mozilla/firefox/<insert_your_profile>/cookies.sqlite20:47
drew212oh! lol!20:47
drew212i think its the default profile20:48
drew212yofel: how do i figure out what profile i'm using cuz its still giving me the same error... is there a way i can navigate to the file using nautilius?20:49
yofeldrew212: hm... when do you get that error?20:51
drew212after typing hugday init --user drew212 --cookie ~/.mozilla/firefox/default/cookies.sqlite and hitting enter, immidiatly20:51
drew212is there a way to show hidden files in nautlius?20:52
yofelshould be there in the context menu iirc20:52
drew212yofel: context menu?20:53
drew212yofel: found it =)20:53
yofellet me try here...20:54
drew212yofel: my profile is named something really weird =P20:54
yofelmy is z07glcwm.default :P20:55
drew212yofel: something like that, lol20:55
drew212sweet it worked20:56
drew212yofel: what is the part about your wiki id?20:57
yofeler, that's the moin ID, you can use that too if your browser can show it21:00
yofeldrew212: for firefox the moin_id is found in your cookies.sqlite, you can read it in your ~/.hugday_config (some pretty long random hash)21:02
drew212yofel: ok, i thought maybe it was how micahg posts a link to his wiki profile when his name is added...21:02
micahgdrew212: no, that's @SIG@21:03
yofelwhat's that again...21:03
micahgdrew212: oh, actually, no, that's using teh hugday tool21:03
* micahg got confused21:03
drew212micahg: it didnt link to my wiki page =(21:03
drew212micahg: not that it's a big deal tho lol21:04
micahgdrew212: it links for me?21:04
drew212uhh, i remember seeing it link to your wiki page on something... maybe it was something else, idk it was a while ago21:05
yofelprobably micahg has his wiki page named 'wiki.ubuntu.com/micahg'21:05
micahgdrew212: my name isn't linked on the hugday page21:05
drew212micahg: alright, then i was mistaken, but its a cool idea =P21:05
micahgdrew212: hugday tools are open source, you can patch to do it :)21:06
* yofel is just looking at it21:06
yofelwould be cool :D21:06
drew212micahg: i wouldn't know how to do it, and i have to work in 45 minutes so i won't have time to look at it, but i would like to learn how to patch packages21:06
micahgyofel: it probably puts the user name right now, would just need to use the appropriate moin variable instead if the user isn't closing for someone else21:07
yofelseems like line 348: cols[3] = " %s " %user21:09
yofelhow do links look like again...21:10
yofelmeh, that java error when starting ffx is annoying21:18
drew212how do we debug program hangs?21:20
yofeltry strace, or run it in gdb and press 'ctrl+c' when it hangs to get a backtrace21:21
drew212yofel: i dont think i have time to learn how to properly use strace or gdb =P, maybe tonight when i get home from work21:22
yofeldrew212: strace: run 'strace app' and see where it stops (warning: the output is LONG)21:23
yofeldrew212: gdb: 'gdb app' then run 'start' in the shell, 'continue' if it starts before the app comes up and 'bt' or 'bt full' after killing the app21:24
drew212yofel do i need debugging symbols? i was quite confused when i got into debugging firefox crashes and problems when those came up21:25
yofelnot for strace, but for gdb yes - see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash21:25
yofelhm... as we use the launchpad ID, I'll link to the launchpad use profile21:29
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drew212how do you find what distro you have?21:35
micahgdrew212: lsb_release21:36
drew212in terminal?21:36
micahgdrew212: yes21:36
drew212micahg: says no LSB modules are available21:37
micahgdrew212: lsb_release -a21:37
yofelhrhr, linking works *g*21:46
yofeldrew212, micahg: added the customized script to my lp scripts, 1 line changed 1 added http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~yofel/+junk/lp-scripts/files22:08
yofelit puts a link to the lp user profile instead of just the lp id on the wiki page22:09
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