[00:00] <jono> paultag, nooo, thank you :-)
[00:00] <paultag> no problem :)
[00:35] <jcastro> hey cjohnston
[00:36] <cjohnston> yessir?
[00:38] <cjohnston> jcastro: ^
[00:39] <jcastro> cjohnston: I need an autoclose script
[00:39] <jcastro> basically, clean up my old pm's
[00:39] <jcastro> any ideas?
[00:39] <cjohnston> hmm
[00:39] <cjohnston> lemme look
[00:39] <jcastro> http://scripts.irssi.org/html/query.pl.html
[00:39] <jcastro> would this do it?
[00:42] <cjohnston> looks possible
[00:43] <cjohnston> i dont know perl to read it tho
[00:43] <nhandler> Let me look
[00:43] <nhandler> jcastro: So you want it to autoclose old query windows that have opened?
[00:44] <jcastro> nhandler: yeah
[00:44] <jcastro> basically
[00:44] <jcastro> at the end of the day I have 20+ query windows
[00:44] <jcastro> (an easy shortcut to /win c would also work)
[00:44] <cjohnston> use /wc too long?
[00:45] <nhandler> jcastro: Well, while I continue looking, you might like autoclose_windows (a setting http://www.irssi.org/documentation/settings )
[00:45] <nhandler> jcastro: Actually, autoclose_query is what you might want as well
[00:46] <jcastro> omg
[00:46] <jcastro> perfect
[00:46]  * jcastro hugs nhandler 
[00:46] <nhandler> :)
[00:46] <jcastro> how to apply this setting to a running irssi?
[00:46] <nhandler> jcastro: Use the /set command   and then /save
[00:47]  * cjohnston makes note to PM jcastro randomly with different nicks throughout the day so that he has tons of open windows
[00:47] <jcastro> cjohnston: pm me now actually. :D
[00:48] <pleia2> you can also window close a range now
[00:48] <pleia2> /wc 99-125
[00:48] <jcastro> what.
[00:48] <jcastro> !!
[00:48] <pleia2> it's great when the spammers come along
[00:48] <jcastro> man, I've been closing windows /by hand/ for going on three years
[00:48] <nhandler> I personally prefer to not have PMs open new query windows. It lets me read them without leaving my current channel
[00:48] <jcastro> ;_;
[00:48] <pleia2> hehe
[00:48] <jcastro> nhandler: how does that work?
[00:49] <nhandler> jcastro: They show up in the current window
[00:49] <popey> great for when you want to take a break from irc... /wc 2-100
[00:49] <pleia2> nhandler: ah bitchx style? :)
[00:49] <jcastro> nhandler: ah, that won't work for me
[00:49] <pleia2> me neither, I'd lose them
[00:49] <nhandler> jcastro: I can then create a query window with them manually (combined with query_resume) if I lose track of a conversation
[00:49] <jcastro> I like popey's set up when I saw it, but he never mailed me his config since he hates me
[00:49] <nhandler> jcastro: What did he have?
[00:49] <popey> this is true
[00:49]  * nhandler is still waiting on nixternal's mutt config files
[00:50] <jcastro> he had this cool split thing going on
[00:50] <nhandler> jcastro: I have that for my hilight window
[00:50] <popey> yeah, same here
[00:50] <nhandler> jcastro: http://quadpoint.org/articles/irssi#hilight_window
[00:50] <popey> i honestly dont know for sure how it works so i am not confident explaining to you jcastro
[00:50] <nhandler> http://quadpoint.org/articles/irssisplit  is also useful
[00:50] <popey> i rarely close my irssi, so when i do, i have to re-learn it :)
[00:54] <jcastro> popey: I am the same way
[00:54] <jcastro> this is why I am asking, heh
[00:54] <jcastro> I had a 6 month stint with weechat in the meantime
[01:14] <popey> i spy czajkowski http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/blog/pictures/photos/conference2.JPG
[01:15] <popey> http://mairin.wordpress.com/2010/07/14/talking-about-inkscape-in-leeds-uk-from-boston-usa-via-empathy/
[01:15] <paultag> awww, yup
[01:15] <paultag> front row like a good student
[01:16] <popey> :)
[01:38] <highvoltage> they know what is what but they don't know what is mutt
[01:56] <nigelb> good morning folks :)
[02:08] <nigelb> hahahahaah
[02:08] <nigelb> " paultag is away: if this is urgent, please file a request at http://queue.paultags.com/t/new"
[02:08] <nigelb> jcastro: we should get one for jono ^
[02:11] <jcastro> wow, neat
[02:12] <jcastro> is that like an entire task thing?
[02:12] <nigelb> heh, I think so
[02:12] <nigelb> need to fle a request and ask paultag :p
[02:18] <highvoltage> http://people.ubuntu.com/~jonathan/moo
[02:19] <nigelb> highvoltage: haha, good one :)
[02:19] <highvoltage> nigelb: I couldn't help it :)
[02:32] <paultag> nigelb: oh crap
[02:32] <paultag> jcastro: yeah
[02:32] <paultag> jcastro: it has a todo list, and you can check them off
[02:32] <paultag> jcastro: I wrote it yesterday on my lunch hour
[02:33] <paultag> erm, two days ago*
[02:33] <paultag> :)
[02:39] <paultag> I mean, if there is serious intrest in someone using the platform, I can clean it up and agpl it
[02:57] <doctormo> paultag: What's the bzr branch for that?
[02:59] <paultag> doctormo: my queue stuff?
[03:00] <doctormo> yes
[03:00] <paultag> doctormo: it's not in bzr, that's for sure, and I've not created a github repo for it yet, it's sitting on my server behind ssh ( it's a gawd awful mess )
[03:01] <paultag> doctormo: I'd have to spend tom. morning's lunch hour making it "right", and I'd gladly agpl it if there is intrest in it :)
[03:01] <paultag> there are two or three known security issues
[03:11] <nhandler> paultag: There is interest ;)
[03:12] <paultag> nhandler: I'll have it f/ossed and forkable tomorrow
[03:13] <nhandler> I guess I need to go and setup my web server again. Too bad I can't toss it on people.u.c :(
[03:13] <paultag> nhandler: yeah :(
[07:01] <ddecator> paultag: i think you mentioned me
[07:40] <dholbach> good morning
[07:40] <kim0> dholbach: Morning man
[07:41] <kim0> Morning all
[07:43] <dholbach> kim0: sabah il cheer
[07:43] <kim0> dholbach: lol :D
[07:44] <ddecator> morning dholbach and kim0
[07:44] <kim0> dholbach: sabah il noor
[07:44] <dholbach> I looked it up, but I'm sure I forgot it tomorrow again :)
[07:44] <dholbach> hey ddecator
[07:59] <dpm> good morning all
[07:59] <ddecator> good morning dpm
[07:59] <dpm> hey ddecator
[08:02] <dholbach> hey dpm
[08:02] <dpm> morning dholbach
[08:02] <dholbach> how are things in sunny Catalunya?
[08:03] <nigelb> morning folks
[08:03] <dholbach> hey nigelb
[08:03] <nigelb> dholbach: awesome session yesterday.  Man you *know* ascii art ;)
[08:03] <ddecator> mornign nigelb
[08:03] <dholbach> nigelb: sudo apt-get install figlet :)
[08:04] <dholbach> dpm: since you're back in Spain I hear more and more news about Catalan separatists - what's going on there? Are you behind it?
[08:05] <dpm> yeah, strangely enough, it all started the day I came back from holidays :)
[08:06] <nigelb> ah, you sowed the seeds for it :p
[08:06] <dpm> :)
[08:06] <dholbach> so what's going on there? is there any chance of "success"?
[08:06] <dpm> http://www.stern.de/politik/ausland/massenprotest-in-katalonien-tschuess-spanien-1582158.html
[08:06] <dpm> it's a long story
[08:06] <dholbach> I'm sure it is - it always is :)
[08:07] <dholbach> http://www.zeit.de/2010/29/Spanien-Zapatero?page=all is what I read this morning
[08:10] <dpm> but the protest was not just about claiming independency - it's just not the right moment, but rather about the Spanish constitutional court's incompetency and the way the veredict was presented and its conclusions
[08:11] <dpm> it's difficult to explain on IRC, but it seems many of the international papers focused on the claim for independency bit, and it's just not only that
[08:11] <dholbach> I see
[08:12] <dholbach> I guess it's also tempting to warm up old conflicts again if the country is dealing with lots of problems and the government seems weak
[08:12] <dpm> this can be misleading - in one of the spiegel forums someone was comparing Catalonia with Bavaria and asking why they couldn't be independent :/
[08:12] <dholbach> dpm: poor you, I feel for you
[08:21] <popey> morning all
[08:21] <ddecator> morning popey
[08:22] <vish> morn popey :)
[08:22] <vish> ddecator: hey o/
[08:22] <ddecator> mornin' vish :)
[08:23] <dpm> morning popey
[08:27] <nigelb> mornin popey :)
[08:28] <dholbach> hey popey, hey vish
[08:28] <dholbach> seems the Indian mafia is fully awake now too :)
[08:28] <nigelb> and afternoon vish :)
[08:28] <nigelb> vish: lunch yet?
[08:28] <vish> dholbach: mornin'  .. yday once you left, we spent time talking about you, behind your back ;)
[08:29] <dholbach> nice
[08:29] <dholbach> thanks guys
[08:29] <vish> nigelb: about to..
[09:13] <czajkowski> ALOHA!
[09:14] <ddecator> hey czajkowski
[09:16] <duanedesign> popey: did you get my ping the other dat with the link to the screencast blog post?
[09:16] <duanedesign> s/dat/day
[09:21] <popey> ya
[09:54] <sense> good morning
[09:55] <czajkowski> nice blog post sense
[09:55] <czajkowski> ;)
[09:55] <sense> czajkowski: thanks! :)
[09:57] <sense> OMG for the image in Jono's post on Operation Cleansweep.
[09:57] <sense> Ah, 14 July. No French today.
[10:03] <ddecator> is it bastille day?
[10:04] <sense> Think so.
[10:04] <sense> Is it called that way?
[10:06] <ddecator> the day the prisoners were freed from the Bastille prison (i think i'm spelling it right), not sure if that's today though, that's just the biggest french holiday i know of
[10:25] <dpm> woah, in the Catalan LoCo we're discussing the best place for the Meerkat release party - and people are even sending candidacies for locations. This one looks amazing - even if you don't understand the language, you can see the huge amount of enthusiasm and effort they've put in there
[10:25] <dpm>   http://dl.dropbox.com/u/183403/CandidaturaUbuntu110-10.pdf
[10:29] <dholbach> holy cow
[10:30] <nigelb> dpm: OMG!
[10:30] <nigelb> It looks like the brochure of some company :p
[10:30] <dpm> that's what all said when we received it :)
[10:31] <sense> dpm: That must have been a lot of work!
[10:33] <czajkowski> wow
[10:33] <czajkowski> then Catalan tea are pretty efficient
[10:34] <sense> Neelie Kroes said it! Spain is one of the top three countries in the EU with regard to open source activity! :P
[10:34] <nigelb> tea! fail! ;)
[10:34]  * dholbach likes tea
[10:34] <czajkowski> sense: behind France I bet you
[10:35] <sense> czajkowski: probably
[10:35] <sense> France, Spain and Germany
[10:37] <AlanBell> with the UK behind everyone
[10:37] <sense> Even behind the Netherlands?
[10:37] <sense> Ah, wait, we've got NOiV.
[10:37] <AlanBell> certainly
[10:37] <nigelb> oh, jono's cleansweep picture looks awesome
[10:37] <sense> nigelb: yeah!
[10:38] <AlanBell> it does. Sweep was my favourite.
[10:38] <sense> AlanBell: Although many organisations here use the ISO recognition of OOXML as an excuse.
[10:39] <AlanBell> they don't even bother to think of excuses here
[10:40] <sense> And that is what makes you worse! We've got excuses!
[10:59] <nigelb> LOL
[10:59]  * nigelb is happy to report workplace transitioning to ubuntu
[11:00] <nigelb> so far 4 systems including mine :)
[11:00] <ara> dpm, molt fort!
[11:01] <dpm> ara, yeah :)
[11:02] <dpm> it did send an injection of reassurance in what we are doing, which seems to inspire other people too!
[11:03] <popey> duanedesign: saw this and thought of you http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/view/6088/capture-screen-and-default-audio-input-device-and-generate-an-incompress-avi-file
[11:04]  * duanedesign looking
[11:05] <czajkowski> gah what is the nick of the guy who takes the UDS photos on irc ?
[11:05] <czajkowski> or his lp page so i can find his email
[11:05] <czajkowski> please
[11:08] <vish> czajkowski: who took the panaroma photo?
[11:08] <sense> vish: kiwi
[11:08] <vish> czajkowski: if so , it kwwii
[11:08] <vish> its*
[11:09] <sense> yeah, that's how you spell it. :)
[11:09] <sense> czajkowski: Design team!
[11:09] <vish> :) , yeah , its confusing..
[11:11] <czajkowski> thanks
[11:26] <paultag> hey dholbach, are you around?
[11:37] <czajkowski> paultag: morning early start
[11:37] <paultag> hey czajkowski  :)
[11:38] <paultag> czajkowski: I start work in now + 30 minutes every day :)
[11:41] <czajkowski> what time is it there?
[11:41] <paultag> czajkowski: 06:40
[11:42] <paultag> czajkowski: righto, I need to leave for real :)
[11:42] <paultag> see ya in a few :)
[11:46] <czajkowski> lordie
[11:46] <nigelb> czajkowski: at 6:40? ;)
[11:47] <czajkowski> tis 11:47 here
[11:48] <nigelb> czajkowski: no, I mean, was the "lordie" for the 6:40? :)
[11:49] <nigelb> if so, thats late :D
[11:49]  * nigelb used to get to work at 5:40 am
[12:03] <czajkowski> hmm some of my emails seem to be hiding on me
[12:03] <czajkowski> most flipping annoying
[12:06] <nigelb> wow, figlet is awesome
[12:07] <nigelb> dholbach: neat trick :)
[12:10] <duanedesign> nigelb: i <3 figlet
[12:10] <duanedesign> nigelb: hard to find a place to use it
[12:17] <sense> I always get out of bed at 6.25 to cycle to school, which starts at 8.
[12:18] <sense> But 5.40 is early...
[12:19] <nigelb> I used to get there at 5:40
[12:19] <nigelb> wake up was like 4
[12:19] <nigelb> duanedesign: did you see dholbach's session last night? ;)
[12:31] <duanedesign> nigelb: i did
[12:31] <duanedesign> nigelb: there is a figlet.pl for irssi too
[13:06] <nigelb> duanedesign: easy ticket to get banned on channels ;)
[13:10] <duanedesign> nigelb: ohh yeah
[13:12] <paultag> Whoh! That look less time then I thought. I have queue open-sourced under the AGPL
[13:33] <nigelb> paultag: where?
[13:33] <paultag> nigelb: http://github.com/paultag/queue <-- please fork :3
[13:33] <paultag> nigelb: there are quite a few things that should and could be done better, if you have any ideas, throw a fork up and let me know about it
[13:34] <paultag> nigelb: it's all PHP and jQuery. Super simple. Took me like 2 hours at most.
[13:34] <nigelb> PHP <#
[13:34] <nigelb> <3
[13:34] <paultag> nigelb: I think you'll like what I did with it :)
[13:35] <nigelb> I'll poke it soon :)
[13:36] <paultag> nigelb: let me know what you think of the layout. I think it's pretty cool
[13:36]  * nigelb might get delayed tonight though
[13:36] <nigelb> ton of work to do :?
[13:36] <nigelb> :?
[13:36] <nigelb> fail!
[13:36] <nigelb> :/
[13:37] <paultag> nigelb: please, do what you gota do! Don't want to start to get VV, now do ya?
[13:37] <nigelb> hehe
[13:37] <paultag> nigelb: akgraner would kill me :)
[13:39] <nigelb> wait, whats VV?
[13:39] <paultag> nigelb: volunteer vertigo, it's pre-burnout. akgraner and I are working on putting together a SWAT force to combat our feared enemy, VV.
[13:40] <nigelb> paultag: mine is more like work vertigo
[13:41] <paultag> nigelb: yeah, but if you have all this community stuff + work, you will blow off community stuff, and then tend to drift away
[13:41] <paultag> nigelb: our job would be to make sure you don't have too much community stuff to overload
[13:41] <nigelb> well, I'm shying away from stuff I can't do remember?
[13:41] <nigelb> like I withdrew from the BT since I knew I won't have the time
[13:41] <paultag> nigelb: and you are a strong person because of it. There are a lot of people who don't, and just burnout
[13:41] <paultag> nigelb: I know
[13:42] <nigelb> mostly I now am on reviewers team, classroom (and other classroom related stuff) and thats about it :)
[13:44] <paultag> nigelb: yeah :)
[13:49] <paultag> nigelb: anywho, anything you have to say / fix re queue, let me know. I'd love to hear / see it
[13:49] <paultag> brb
[14:45] <nigelb> paultag: one thing I gotta say, jQuery is ne awesome lib ;)
[14:45] <nigelb> s/ne/one
[14:50] <nigelb> jussi: poke!
[14:50] <nigelb> Welcome back :)
[14:50] <nigelb> hows the moving in, et al?
[14:50]  * jussi is not here. 
[14:50]  * nigelb wonders if its his ghost
[14:50] <nigelb> or if he's really a bot like I feared
[14:52] <jussi> Im sorry, I dont know anything about bots
[14:52] <paultag> nigelb: :)
[14:54] <jussi> la de da... its warm here and Im mostly headed out n a min, hence Im not here.
[14:55] <nigelb> ah
[15:16] <paultag> hey nhandler, prod :)
[15:16] <nhandler> Hey paultag
[15:16] <paultag> nhandler: delivered on-time and under-budget -- http://github.com/paultag/queue
[15:17] <paultag> nhandler: I was able to do it today before work over breakfast
[15:17] <nhandler> paultag: Very nice. That is one item out of your queue ;)
[15:17] <paultag> nhandler: yessir! :)
[15:18] <paultag> nhandler: there are lots of hacks, so if you have any feedbacks or changes, just fork it on github and i'll get to it :)
[15:20] <sense> Someone on Twitter asked me the difference between Dutch and German. :\ :/ :\ :/
[15:20] <nigelb> wow
[15:20] <nigelb> who? and where is he/she from?
[15:20] <dholbach> sense: Dutch, that's like Deutsch, right?
[15:20] <dholbach> :-P
[15:21] <sense> dholbach: You can't hear the difference! ahem
[15:21] <sense> nigelb: A French guy.
[15:21] <dholbach> sense: I have Dutch relatives, so I was exposed to some of it :)
[15:21] <sense> typical
[15:21] <paultag> well that does not make sense
[15:22] <sense> nigelb: Dutch always say that German is overly harsh, I've heard Germans complaining that Dutch sounds to gnawking.
[15:22] <sense> too much gargh
[15:22] <sense> dholbach: So you must know the difference!
[15:22] <paultag> Hey! Hey! German is a beautiful and romantic language
[15:22] <sense> and very suitable for giving orders
[15:22] <dholbach> sense: man, I was kidding :)
[15:22] <sense> :)
[15:23] <sense> Dutch is a Germanic language. After all, Dutch are just conceited Germans who, under French unfluence, decided they could do things better on their own.
[15:23] <dholbach> as a kid I thought that adding "-tjes" to most of the words would make it Dutch, so "carrot", in German "Karotte", so in Dutch it must be "Karrottjes", I was told it wasn't that easy :)
[15:24] <sense> LOL
[15:24] <nigelb> haha
[15:24] <sense> That would be worteltjes.
[15:24] <dholbach> sense: I know :)
[15:24] <sense> dholbach: You do! But nigelb doesn't.
[15:24] <dpm> for those who've been following football recently, here's a nice post from the Asturian LoCo:
[15:24] <dpm> http://blogs.altuxa.com/tapaponga/y-el-pulpu-albidra.html
[15:24] <sense> dpm is Spanish, right?
[15:25] <dholbach> sense: no, it's not that easy
[15:25] <dholbach> dpm: he's Catalan!!!
[15:25] <sense> That damn octopus was wrong during the final of the Europa Cup, but not this time.
[15:25] <nigelb> dpm: hahaha, good one :)
[15:25] <sense> Ah, those people are so chauvinistic they sing the national hymn each morning in front of a portrait of the king, right?
[15:26] <dpm> :-)
[15:26] <randa_> dpm send it to warthogs, it is hilarious!
[15:26] <dholbach> sense: I'm sure most of the Catalan don't :)
[15:26] <nigelb> haha
[15:26] <sense> is warthogs the new sounders?
[15:27] <nigelb> wait, whats warthogs?
[15:27] <dholbach> sense: no, it's an internal canonical list
[15:27] <popey> internal list
[15:27] <nigelb> ahh
[15:27] <sense> Ah, the internal sounders.
[15:27] <popey> i fully expect it to be nothing like sounder
[15:27] <jcastro> it's actually even more lame
[15:27] <nigelb> which means it is :p
[15:27] <jcastro> :p
[15:27] <nigelb> hahaha
[15:27] <nigelb> popey: why do you think its internel :p
[15:27] <sense> It is probably less filled with people wanting to share their political views on libertarianism.
[15:28] <nigelb> I think they make people sign NDA about that list :p
[15:28] <jcastro> sounder used to be my favorite list
[15:28] <sense> Yeah, Canonical is quite into NDAs.
[15:28] <jcastro> don't remember what happened over the year. :(
[15:28]  * dholbach disengages from the discussion
[15:28] <nigelb> Most companies make you sign them.
[15:28] <paultag> nigelb: I have not signed one to date :)
[15:29] <nigelb> paultag: disadvantage of working with medical records of american public = NDA and something more
[15:29] <sense> There was a small outrage on Identi.ca after the package name of the fonts contained the string -nda-
[15:29] <paultag> nigelb: yup.
[15:29] <paultag> sense: ahahah yeah
[15:29] <jcastro> I had the -nda- in the file name fixed
[15:29] <nhandler> sense: That also made the planet
[15:30] <sense> jcastro: Yeah, that was solved quickly.
[15:30] <nigelb> maia
[15:30] <jcastro> we are transitioning it to ubuntu-private-fonts
[15:30] <sense> and the unrest went away immediately.
[15:31] <paultag> GOD I hate labels
[15:31] <jcastro> there's only like 3-4 weeks left until it's finished
[15:31] <sense> nigelb: Did you also have to learn American accents and use an American name and pretend you were working from Ohio? We saw a documentary about call centres in India on school and the American companies are ashamed of outsourcing their work to India and the public is a bit racist, they don't want to be helped by Indians.
[15:31] <paultag> sense: I'm the LoCo contact for Ohio!
[15:31] <paultag> sense: nigelb can come visit
[15:31] <sense> Can I come too?
[15:32] <paultag> sense: sure :)
[15:32] <sense> If you pay the ticket!
[15:32] <popey> nigelb: i know it is because I've talked about it before with canonical ppl
[15:32] <nigelb> popey: ah, ok :)
[15:32] <nigelb> sense: No, I never had to talk to people.
[15:32] <sense> jcastro: There was a lot of misinformation in the beginning, and people asking in the comments of the official blog post for more information.
[15:32] <nigelb> Just listen to doctors and transcribe
[15:32] <sense> for the font.*
[15:33] <sense> nigelb: Ok, so you were filing stuff?
[15:33] <popey> sometimes I do think sounder should be shutdown
[15:33] <jcastro> wow
[15:33] <jcastro> the sounder list looks /horrible/
[15:33] <sense> popey: There were calls for that a while ago, I think Mark himself sent a (final) warning to the list.
[15:33] <nhandler> That is one list I avoid
[15:33] <nigelb> sense: No, I was essentially converting voice to text.
[15:33] <popey> sense: i know, we discussed it on the cc
[15:34] <sense> nigelb: Must have been boring. Was it?
[15:34]  * nigelb wonders what sounds is
[15:34] <nigelb> sense: well, when I'm actuall working, it was fun.  But when I take a step back and look at it, very very boring
[15:34] <nigelb> enjoying new job 10 times better
[15:34] <sense> good!
[15:35] <sense> must have taught you a lot of English
[15:35] <nigelb> NO
[15:35] <sense> the previous job
[15:35] <sense> no?
[15:35] <nigelb> It taught me how many people of non-american descent become doctors in america
[15:35] <dpm> h
[15:35] <nigelb> and how english isn't a language during medical studies :/
[15:35] <sense> aw
[15:35] <sense> That is valuable experience for international conference, though. :)
[15:35] <nigelb> Indian accent is tough to make out, for us and them
[15:36] <nigelb> the american thought, it would be easy for us.  We struggle just as much
[15:36] <nigelb> s/american/americans/
[15:36] <nigelb> hispanic, persian are just as tough
[15:36] <sense> No English accent is equal! I've been told that British can tell from what village someone comes by listening to the accent.
[15:37] <nigelb> heh
[15:37] <paultag> sense: you can do that with American english as well, but mostly by state
[15:37] <nigelb> the main trouble was sentences would be constructed wrongly, so it was difficult to make out the meaning
[15:37] <nigelb> and we'd get lost trying to figure out what he was trying to say
[15:37] <sense> That is problematic indeed.
[15:37] <AlanBell> sense: we are a bit more mixed up than that now!
[15:37] <sense> nigelb: By the way, sounders is an old mailing list started during the first development cycle. I think it was a codename. The mailing list continued to be used and slowly became more and more off-topic.
[15:38] <sense> AlanBell: yeah, times are changing, even in Britain
[15:38] <nigelb> sense: ah, ok
[15:38]  * nigelb remembers Russel Peters joke about it
[15:39] <nigelb> "Britian has the largest Indian population outside of India" :p
[15:39] <sense> It's very hard to get a larger population of Indians than India.
[15:39] <sense> How close are you to China?
[15:39] <nigelb> sharing borders, occasional wars, etc
[15:40] <sense> nigelb: How close in population? :)
[15:40] <nigelb> ah, that way
[15:40]  * nigelb doesn't know
[15:40] <dholbach> hey jono
[15:40]  * nigelb hugs jono 
[15:40] <sense> good morrow/afternoon jono!
[15:40] <nigelb> Thanks for the blog post!
[15:40] <nigelb> Again!
[15:41] <sense> jono: Amazing stuffed animal on that blog post. What is it?
[15:42] <popey> Sweep!
[15:42] <popey> (is his name)
[15:42] <jcastro> hey vish
[15:43] <popey> sense: http://www.thesootyshow.com/
[15:43] <popey> http://www.thesootyshow.com/sweep.php
[15:43] <sense> probably something british
[15:43] <nigelb> jcastro: the lazy guy is still writing his session ( he just started )
[15:43] <sense> background music!
[15:43] <jcastro> vish: I know you're full up on papercuts, but we could use a hand with these: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NotificationAreaTransition/CompatibilityFixes
[15:43] <popey> sense: yes
[15:43] <popey> he lives around the corner from me :)
[15:43] <paultag> oh hey jcastro, are you a redditor?
[15:43] <jcastro> so feel free to send volunteers that way
[15:43] <jcastro> paultag: no, I am not 14.
[15:43] <paultag> Ouch
[15:43] <nigelb> LOL
[15:44] <jcastro> <3
[15:44]  * popey hands jcastro a saucer of milk
[15:44] <popey> http://meow.popey.com/
[15:44] <nigelb> <3 <3
[15:44] <paultag> jcastro: do you know what an orangered is?
[15:44] <jcastro> no
[15:45] <paultag> Well shucks, too bad :)
[15:45] <sense> popey: Is that yours?
[15:45] <popey> my site, not my cat
[15:45] <jono> sense, it is sweep from sooty and sweep :-)
[15:47] <sense> I opened the website and the first thing I heard was "Radio Sooty" sung.
[15:47] <popey> excellent
[15:47] <nigelb> anyway, back to work for me
[15:47] <nigelb> too much IRC-ing today
[15:49] <nigelb> dholbach: Just FYI, I co-hosted pedro's session too :D
[15:51] <dholbach> nigelb: fixed
[15:51] <nigelb> thanks :)
[16:00] <jono> dpm, all set?
[16:00] <dpm> jono, yep
[16:00] <jono> dpm, cool one sec
[16:06] <vish> jcastro: hi , reporting or fixing the bugs?
[16:06] <vish> knows the ans will probably be both :D
[16:08]  * czajkowski hugs jono 
[16:09] <nigelb> czajkowski: saw you sitting on front row like a good student recently :)
[16:09] <czajkowski> I thought i'd dodged the photos
[16:09] <nigelb> nope
[16:09] <paultag> czajkowski: nope :)
[16:10] <czajkowski> balls
[16:10] <sense> That's right.
[16:10] <nigelb> haahahahah
[16:10] <sense> She's on the front row, in the sharp area.
[16:10] <paultag> mmhum!
[16:10] <nigelb> or sleeping area :p
[16:10] <jcastro> vish: both! (heh)
[16:11] <vish> jcastro: cool, sure.
[16:11] <sense> jcastro: Maybe I could do some of those, I haven't been doing much for Ubuntu lately. Most of my time went to GUADEC and my own blog/identity.
[16:11] <jcastro> vish: mpt has made enough progress with the recommendations that people can probably start nipping at them
[16:11] <nigelb> jcastro: glad to see lucidfox workin with ayanata folks :)
[16:11] <jcastro> nigelb: nod
[16:11] <jcastro> she finished off the liferea one right?
[16:12]  * nigelb isnt sure
[16:12] <jcastro> sense: fagan told upstream deluge that he would do an app indicator for them but got slammed with school. A "save" there would be appreciated!
[16:13] <vish> hehe , everyone wants sense :D
[16:13] <sense> jcastro: OK, I'll take a look at it.
[16:13] <nigelb> vish: just like everyone wants you!
[16:13] <vish> ;p
[16:14] <vish> sense: how are you coping with wrong irc highlights?
[16:14] <sense> vish: It's not too bad. Just every now and then I get a false highlight. Maybe I'll write a regex or so in the future. :)
[16:14]  * jono hugs czajkowski
[16:14] <highvoltage> that would make sense
[16:15] <vish> lol!
[16:15] <sense> no! Not highvoltage too!
[16:15] <highvoltage> (mhuhahahaha)
[16:15] <sense> I am sense, of course it would make sense!
[16:17] <nigelb> using dictonary word as irc nick means getting pinged a lot more
[16:17] <nigelb> I hope that make sense :p
[16:17]  * nigelb LOL
[16:17] <sense> I'm not using a dictionary word, a dictionary is using my name!
[16:18] <sense> I've got genealogical proff!
[16:18] <nigelb> hahaha, either way
[16:18] <highvoltage> lots of people say hi and then tab complete that to my nick
[16:19] <highvoltage> it happens about twice a week with me
[16:19] <nigelb> heh
[16:19] <nigelb> btw, hows canada treating you?
[16:20] <highvoltage> nigelb: good thanks! I'm moving to a new apartment tomorrow
[16:20] <sense> A nephew of my grandfather (whose name is Sense as well) is living in Canada and his name is Sense as well. But he's named Stan there to prevent confusion.
[16:20] <highvoltage> nigelb: we are the knights who say ni<tab>!
[16:20] <sense> I think I am the sixth Sense of the family, actually.
[16:20] <nigelb> highvoltage: hah :)
[16:21] <nigelb> sense: now, thats a goog number
[16:21] <highvoltage> sense: heh, I love it when you say that :) (sixth sense)
[16:21] <nigelb> *good
[16:21] <nigelb> highvoltage: heat getting to ya?
[16:21] <highvoltage> nigelb: it's been a lot better the last 2 days. the new place will have AC at least :)
[16:21] <nigelb> woot :)
[16:23] <nigelb> to those of you who know what gulab jamun is, Im digging into 2 of them right now.. yummm
[16:23] <popey> oooo
[16:23] <popey> want
[16:23] <popey> i love sticky indian sweets
[16:24] <nigelb> its sweet and still warm - very tasty
[16:24] <highvoltage> that sounds disgusting :)
[16:24] <nigelb> not really
[16:25] <nigelb> its like, the carmel and something thats fried dropped into it
[16:25] <nigelb> thats the closest I can describe it
[16:37] <dholbach> Day 4 of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloper Week starts in 23 minutes in #ubuntu-classroomDay 4 of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloper Week starts in 23 minutes in #ubuntu-classroom
[16:46] <jono> kim0, all set
[16:46] <kim0> jono: Yep
[16:57] <jono> kim0, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SpecSpec
[17:09]  * jcastro eats
[17:09] <czajkowski> nyom
[17:09] <czajkowski> nyom
[17:10] <jcastro> diet fail ... aka Wendy's Spicy Chicken
[17:13] <popey> yeah, you're married now, no more effort needed ;)
[17:14] <nigelb> hahaha
[17:23] <dpm> ok, time to call it a day, have a nice rest of the day everyone, and see you tomorrow!
[17:23] <nhandler> Bye dpm
[17:23] <dpm> bye!
[17:54] <jcastro> jono: events that want to request canonical sponsorship should contact ....?
[17:55] <nigelb> you?
[17:56] <jcastro> shhh!
[17:56] <nigelb> you know he's going to say "why dont you deal with it" :D
[17:57] <jono> jcastro, it's not really clear, I always bump it to marketing
[17:57] <jono> jcastro, you take it and bump it there
[17:57] <jono> :)
[17:57] <jcastro> ugh, kill me
[17:57] <jcastro> Andre_Gondim: can you mail me the info?
[17:57] <Andre_Gondim> jcastro, yeah ;)
[17:57] <nigelb> jcastro: "I told you so"
[17:58] <dholbach> alright my friends - I call it a day
[17:58] <jcastro> It seem's that I've been made to suffer, it's my lot in life </c3po>
[17:58] <jcastro> bye daniel!
[17:58] <dholbach> have a great day
[17:58] <dholbach> see you
[17:58]  * dholbach hugs you all
[17:58] <nigelb> night!
[17:58] <nigelb> jcastro: hahaha
[17:59]  * jcastro blogged about web apps over lunch.
[17:59] <paultag> jcastro: woo!
[17:59] <paultag> jcastro: what kind?
[17:59]  * nigelb goes to red
[17:59] <nigelb> *read
[17:59] <jcastro> http://castrojo.tumblr.com/post/815726909/web-apps-interact-with-me
[18:00] <nigelb> jcastro: might have wanted obfusecate the photos
[18:00] <paultag> jcastro: nifty
[18:00] <nigelb> and/or names
[18:01] <jcastro> meh, it doesn't show email addresses
[18:02] <nigelb> jcastro: +1 for meebo webapp :)
[18:02] <jcastro> I know right!
[18:02] <nigelb> jcastro: did you see paultag 's queu code?
[18:03] <nigelb> (perhaps we can add it too his queue :p)
[18:03] <nigelb> *queue
[18:03] <paultag> oh noes :)
[18:04]  * czajkowski is gonna make a chicken korma this evening 
[18:04] <czajkowski> and eat a bucket of mango chutney with it
[18:04] <czajkowski> nyommy
[18:05] <nigelb> wow wow
[18:05] <nigelb> mango chutney <3
[18:05] <czajkowski> nyommy
[18:14] <jono> czajkowski, Michelle is onto the Israeli trademarks thing
[18:14] <czajkowski> jono: you my dear rock
[18:14] <czajkowski> Thank you
[18:14] <paultag> jono: you rock, thanks!
[18:14] <jono> no worries :-)
[18:19] <jcastro> jono: I think today you will have a double menu turning off surprise
[18:20] <jcastro> wow that made no sense
[18:20] <sense> yes it did
[18:20] <jcastro> - Initial release of the scrub bar
[18:20] <jcastro> ^^ that should make indicator-sound more interesting!
[18:20] <sense> jcastro: when will the Rhythmbox notification area icon go?
[18:21] <jcastro> sense: I was thinking after one or two more releases of the sound indicator
[18:21] <jcastro> 2 weeks perhaps?
[18:21] <sense> That's pretty soon. Before the third alpha, right?
[18:21] <jcastro> yeah
[18:22] <sense> and do you happen to know how far Banshee is? When I last checked the plugin wasn't in BCE main, but still in a separate branch.
[18:22] <jcastro> I haven't seen bertrand around, I know he was working on it, I'll ping him next time I see him
[18:23] <jcastro> banshee's netbook mode doesn't work with the global menu either.
[18:23] <jono> jcastro, cool, but I already have it switched off :-)
[18:24] <jcastro> jono: that was more of a semi-laid back status report while I wait for the other bits
[18:25] <jcastro> "oh well I don't have anything for him now, let me spam with cosmetic fixes"
[18:25] <jono> :)
[18:35]  * nhandler is still waiting for banshee to gain ipod touch support
[18:38]  * highvoltage is still waiting for apple to release an iPhone shuffle
[18:48] <sense> BP admits there was a lobby to release al-Megrahi. Just when you thought their PR couldn't get any worse...
[18:52] <jcastro> nhandler: it should be ready soon (the libgpod banshee stuff)
[18:53] <jcastro> nhandler: ok, I ended up not linking the top split window, how do I shut that off without losing my other windows?
[18:59] <jcastro> nice job on your session vish
[19:01] <vish> jcastro: :)
[19:02] <nigelb> vish: see, I told you its possible :D
[19:03] <vish> meh ;p
[19:03] <nigelb> jcastro: took me a fair bit of trouble to get him :D
[19:06] <czajkowski> oh dear I think I ate too much
[19:07] <jono> czajkowski, http://www.jonobacon.org/2010/07/15/rocking-the-loco-council/
[19:07] <czajkowski> yay
[19:07] <czajkowski> :D
[19:07] <paultag> thanks jono :)
[19:08] <jono> :)
[19:26] <vish> AlanBell: czajkowski: what do you think of http://people.ubuntu.com/~vish/LoCo-directory.png , for the LoCo directory?
[19:26] <czajkowski> vish: that is sooo cute
[19:26] <czajkowski> :)
[19:26] <czajkowski> love it
[19:27] <vish> :)
[19:27] <czajkowski> sums up LoCo and directory very simply and clearly
[19:27] <AlanBell> nice
[19:27] <paultag> awww
[19:27] <paultag> that's cute
[19:27] <paultag> vish: love it
[19:27] <vish> thanks
[19:28] <sense> vish: nice icon!
[19:29] <nigelb> nhandler: araound?
[19:31] <vish> sense:  noticed that the loco-directory logo needed an update .. :)
[19:32] <czajkowski> that's really cute
[19:45] <nhandler> jcastro: That is awesome (re banshee and libgpod). I thought I was subscribed to all the relevent bugs, but I haven't seen any emails recently. As for the top split window, I think you can use the /window hide command
[19:46] <vish> bansheeeeeee!!
[19:46] <jcastro> nhandler: I think next week we'll try it in maverick, ping me next week
[19:46]  * vish grumbles , he doesnt have a bashee t-shirt like jcastro  ;p
[19:46] <vish> banshee*
[19:46] <jcastro> I need to catch up with didrocks on it
[19:46] <nhandler> jcastro: Sure thing. I would love to see that working.
[19:46] <jcastro> -!- Irssi: You can't hide sticky windows (use /WINDOW STICK OFF)
[19:47] <jcastro> even though the window is not sticky
[19:51] <nhandler> jcastro: Type '/window' inside the top window
[19:51] <nhandler> It will tell you if anything is stuck in it
[20:05] <sense> I'm off, bye everyone!
[21:40] <vish> AlanBell: czajkowski: paultag: http://people.ubuntu.com/~vish/LoCo-Directory.tar.lzma , i'v split the icon into the respective sizes required. , not sure whom to send it to though :)
[21:40] <paultag> vish: you rock. Is it tango std?
[21:40] <vish> yup
[21:41] <paultag> vish: I'd try and get it upstream :)
[21:42] <vish> paultag: upstream?  this is for Ubuntu-loco directory logo.. > https://edge.launchpad.net/loco-directory
[21:42] <paultag> vish: yes, but it would be nice to have for the ubuntu tango icon set
[21:42] <vish> paultag: btw, I'v done icons for gnome upstream too :)
[21:42] <paultag> vish: it's a really outstanding job
[21:43] <paultag> vish: ahhhhh, that explains it
[21:43] <paultag> vish: glad to have you helping :)
[21:43] <vish> paultag: oh we have a ubuntu tango set! or are you referring to Humanity ion theme?
[21:43] <paultag> vish: second, let me research
[21:43] <paultag> vish: I thought we did
[21:43] <vish> np thanks :)
[21:43] <vish> icon* theme
[21:44] <paultag> vish: https://launchpad.net/tango-icon-theme-common
[21:44] <paultag> vish: oh christ
[21:45] <vish> paultag: hmm , right , those wont be included there , that is meant for install
[21:45] <paultag> last modified: 2005-12-31 18:59:08 EST  237 weeks ago
[21:45] <paultag> vish: well that's what I was thinking ;)
[21:45] <paultag> vish: might be useful to have it local for docs etc
[21:45] <paultag> vish: but for now, email it to dholbach or mhall
[21:46] <vish> paultag: sure! thanks :)
[21:46] <paultag> vish: or wait, I have a better idea
[21:46] <paultag> vish: sec
[21:46] <jorge_> my linode is on the fritz, so I'll be like this if you need me
[21:46] <jorge_> jcastro, you are amazing!
[21:46] <vish> lol! imposter!
[21:47] <paultag> vish: mail  loco-directory-dev@lists.launchpad.net
[21:47] <paultag> vish: :)
[21:47] <vish> paultag: sweet , thanks!
[21:47] <paultag> vish: sure thing! Thank you! the icon came out great
[21:47] <vish> np..
[21:48] <paultag> jorge_: I should start calling you jorge, but with the spanish accent on it
[21:48] <vish> hehe , i think that pisses him off ;p
[21:48] <paultag> sure does >:D
[21:51]  * jorge_ calls paultag a michigander
[21:52] <paultag> Oh lawwwwdy
[21:52] <paultag> this is how fights start
[21:53] <jorge_> Did you hear that the Ohio State University library burned to the ground? All five books in the library were completely destroyed and the football team is really upset by the fire; they hadn’t colored in two of the books yet.
[21:53] <czajkowski> vish: that is soo cool
[21:53] <paultag> jorge_: thanks a lot. I'm in the middle of a starbucks and I made the worst chortle then quiet giggle to myself and everyone is looking at me
[21:54] <jorge_> heh
[21:54] <paultag> never heard that one before :)
[21:54] <jorge_> ok, EOD for me.
[21:54] <paultag> ctrl + d
[21:54] <jorge_> cheers everyone
[21:54] <paultag> get outa here!
[21:54] <czajkowski> jorge_: nn
[21:55]  * jorge_ goes off to the zoo
[21:55] <jorge_> and by zoo I mean zoological park, not Ohio.
[21:55] <paultag> *zing*
[21:57] <czajkowski> jono: is there someone looking after trademark issues now? or is there a back log of stuff to be looked at, AlanBell logged an issue back in May
[21:58] <AlanBell> specifically this one -> http://www.thsl.org.uk/
[21:58] <jono> czajkowski, Michelle should be on this
[21:58] <jono> I will check in with her next week
[21:59] <czajkowski> jono: thank you , as if you look at the stuff it's a complete rip off of Ubuntu logos
[22:00] <jono> ok thanks
[22:00] <paultag> jorge_: http://www.thsl.org.uk/images/logo.jpg <-- we're teaching schools now, I guess
[22:01] <paultag> not you jorge_
[22:01] <paultag> you jono ^ :)
[22:03] <AlanBell> paultag: jono will delegate the teaching to jorge_
[22:03] <paultag> AlanBell: :)
[22:03] <paultag> AlanBell: as a rule of thumb, one should always delegate tawsks to jorge_
[22:03] <paultag> tasks *
[22:04] <paultag> OK. I'm afk, time to drive home
[22:04] <doctormo> Hmm, does anyone know why #ubuntu-motu is empty?
[22:06] <nhandler> doctormo: It isn't
[22:06] <nhandler> There are 220 people in there
[22:08] <doctormo> nhandler: my irc says no one is in there,.
[22:08] <nhandler> doctormo: what client?
[22:08] <doctormo> nhandler: Empathy 2.30.2
[22:08] <nhandler> Well, that is more than likely the problem ;)
[22:09] <nhandler> doctormo: Try /who #ubuntu-motu
[22:09] <nhandler> (if it lets you)
[22:09] <doctormo> nhandler: heh, well I'm dog fooding out default irc client so I can tirade about it at UDS.
[22:09] <doctormo> it won't let me do who, it's not a valid command.
[22:10] <nhandler> doctormo: And it doesn't have a /quote or /raw command to send raw commands to the server?
[22:12] <doctormo> nhandler: Nope
[22:12] <doctormo> both just failed
[22:12] <doctormo> I think if we could get every ubuntu member and motu member to use empathy for their irc client, we'd very quickly have a whole pile of fixes.
[22:13] <nhandler> doctormo: I would, but I sort of need an IRC client that works. irssi is the only client for me
[22:13] <doctormo> nhandler: See, see!
[22:13] <czajkowski> nhandler: doctormo that happens from time to time on freenode with a split
[22:14] <czajkowski> happened me a while back in ubuntu women
[22:14] <czajkowski> was very odd
[22:14] <doctormo> czajkowski: Well everyone is talking to me, just can't see them in the list.
[22:14] <nhandler> czajkowski: That was what I was thinking, but I would think it would have resolved itself in his client. The last split I see in my logs was 6 hours ago
[22:15] <czajkowski> nhandler: aye but there may have been a smaller one
[22:15] <czajkowski> happens
[22:15] <czajkowski> which is odd
[22:15] <czajkowski> nhandler: glad to see you've your connection fixed, you were being sworn at blindly yesterday
[22:16] <nhandler> czajkowski: I told them they should have forwarded me to ##fix_your_connection (at least in the less active channels)
[22:16] <czajkowski> it did in the end