[00:00] paultag, nooo, thank you :-) [00:00] no problem :) [00:35] hey cjohnston [00:36] yessir? [00:38] jcastro: ^ [00:39] cjohnston: I need an autoclose script [00:39] basically, clean up my old pm's [00:39] any ideas? [00:39] hmm [00:39] lemme look [00:39] http://scripts.irssi.org/html/query.pl.html [00:39] would this do it? [00:42] looks possible [00:43] i dont know perl to read it tho [00:43] Let me look [00:43] jcastro: So you want it to autoclose old query windows that have opened? [00:44] nhandler: yeah [00:44] basically [00:44] at the end of the day I have 20+ query windows [00:44] (an easy shortcut to /win c would also work) [00:44] use /wc too long? [00:45] jcastro: Well, while I continue looking, you might like autoclose_windows (a setting http://www.irssi.org/documentation/settings ) [00:45] jcastro: Actually, autoclose_query is what you might want as well [00:46] omg [00:46] perfect [00:46] * jcastro hugs nhandler [00:46] :) [00:46] how to apply this setting to a running irssi? [00:46] jcastro: Use the /set command and then /save [00:47] * cjohnston makes note to PM jcastro randomly with different nicks throughout the day so that he has tons of open windows [00:47] cjohnston: pm me now actually. :D [00:48] you can also window close a range now [00:48] /wc 99-125 [00:48] what. [00:48] !! [00:48] it's great when the spammers come along [00:48] man, I've been closing windows /by hand/ for going on three years [00:48] I personally prefer to not have PMs open new query windows. It lets me read them without leaving my current channel [00:48] ;_; [00:48] hehe [00:48] nhandler: how does that work? [00:49] jcastro: They show up in the current window [00:49] great for when you want to take a break from irc... /wc 2-100 [00:49] nhandler: ah bitchx style? :) [00:49] nhandler: ah, that won't work for me [00:49] me neither, I'd lose them [00:49] jcastro: I can then create a query window with them manually (combined with query_resume) if I lose track of a conversation [00:49] I like popey's set up when I saw it, but he never mailed me his config since he hates me [00:49] jcastro: What did he have? [00:49] this is true [00:49] * nhandler is still waiting on nixternal's mutt config files [00:50] he had this cool split thing going on [00:50] jcastro: I have that for my hilight window [00:50] yeah, same here [00:50] jcastro: http://quadpoint.org/articles/irssi#hilight_window [00:50] i honestly dont know for sure how it works so i am not confident explaining to you jcastro [00:50] http://quadpoint.org/articles/irssisplit is also useful [00:50] i rarely close my irssi, so when i do, i have to re-learn it :) [00:54] popey: I am the same way [00:54] this is why I am asking, heh [00:54] I had a 6 month stint with weechat in the meantime [01:14] i spy czajkowski http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/blog/pictures/photos/conference2.JPG [01:15] http://mairin.wordpress.com/2010/07/14/talking-about-inkscape-in-leeds-uk-from-boston-usa-via-empathy/ [01:15] awww, yup [01:15] front row like a good student [01:16] :) [01:38] they know what is what but they don't know what is mutt [01:56] good morning folks :) [02:08] hahahahaah [02:08] " paultag is away: if this is urgent, please file a request at http://queue.paultags.com/t/new" [02:08] jcastro: we should get one for jono ^ [02:11] wow, neat [02:12] is that like an entire task thing? [02:12] heh, I think so [02:12] need to fle a request and ask paultag :p [02:18] http://people.ubuntu.com/~jonathan/moo [02:19] highvoltage: haha, good one :) [02:19] nigelb: I couldn't help it :) [02:32] nigelb: oh crap [02:32] jcastro: yeah [02:32] jcastro: it has a todo list, and you can check them off [02:32] jcastro: I wrote it yesterday on my lunch hour [02:33] erm, two days ago* [02:33] :) [02:39] I mean, if there is serious intrest in someone using the platform, I can clean it up and agpl it [02:57] paultag: What's the bzr branch for that? [02:59] doctormo: my queue stuff? [03:00] yes [03:00] doctormo: it's not in bzr, that's for sure, and I've not created a github repo for it yet, it's sitting on my server behind ssh ( it's a gawd awful mess ) [03:01] doctormo: I'd have to spend tom. morning's lunch hour making it "right", and I'd gladly agpl it if there is intrest in it :) [03:01] there are two or three known security issues [03:11] paultag: There is interest ;) [03:12] nhandler: I'll have it f/ossed and forkable tomorrow [03:13] I guess I need to go and setup my web server again. Too bad I can't toss it on people.u.c :( [03:13] nhandler: yeah :( [07:01] paultag: i think you mentioned me [07:40] good morning [07:40] dholbach: Morning man [07:41] Morning all [07:43] kim0: sabah il cheer [07:43] dholbach: lol :D [07:44] morning dholbach and kim0 [07:44] dholbach: sabah il noor [07:44] I looked it up, but I'm sure I forgot it tomorrow again :) [07:44] hey ddecator [07:59] good morning all [07:59] good morning dpm [07:59] hey ddecator [08:02] hey dpm [08:02] morning dholbach [08:02] how are things in sunny Catalunya? [08:03] morning folks [08:03] hey nigelb [08:03] dholbach: awesome session yesterday. Man you *know* ascii art ;) [08:03] mornign nigelb [08:03] nigelb: sudo apt-get install figlet :) [08:04] dpm: since you're back in Spain I hear more and more news about Catalan separatists - what's going on there? Are you behind it? [08:05] yeah, strangely enough, it all started the day I came back from holidays :) [08:06] ah, you sowed the seeds for it :p [08:06] :) [08:06] so what's going on there? is there any chance of "success"? [08:06] http://www.stern.de/politik/ausland/massenprotest-in-katalonien-tschuess-spanien-1582158.html [08:06] it's a long story [08:06] I'm sure it is - it always is :) [08:07] http://www.zeit.de/2010/29/Spanien-Zapatero?page=all is what I read this morning [08:10] but the protest was not just about claiming independency - it's just not the right moment, but rather about the Spanish constitutional court's incompetency and the way the veredict was presented and its conclusions [08:11] it's difficult to explain on IRC, but it seems many of the international papers focused on the claim for independency bit, and it's just not only that [08:11] I see [08:12] I guess it's also tempting to warm up old conflicts again if the country is dealing with lots of problems and the government seems weak [08:12] this can be misleading - in one of the spiegel forums someone was comparing Catalonia with Bavaria and asking why they couldn't be independent :/ [08:12] dpm: poor you, I feel for you [08:21] morning all [08:21] morning popey [08:22] morn popey :) [08:22] ddecator: hey o/ [08:22] mornin' vish :) [08:23] morning popey [08:27] mornin popey :) [08:28] hey popey, hey vish [08:28] seems the Indian mafia is fully awake now too :) [08:28] and afternoon vish :) [08:28] vish: lunch yet? [08:28] dholbach: mornin' .. yday once you left, we spent time talking about you, behind your back ;) [08:29] nice [08:29] thanks guys [08:29] nigelb: about to.. [09:13] ALOHA! [09:14] hey czajkowski [09:16] popey: did you get my ping the other dat with the link to the screencast blog post? [09:16] s/dat/day [09:21] ya [09:54] good morning [09:55] nice blog post sense [09:55] ;) [09:55] czajkowski: thanks! :) [09:57] OMG for the image in Jono's post on Operation Cleansweep. [09:57] Ah, 14 July. No French today. [10:03] is it bastille day? [10:04] Think so. [10:04] Is it called that way? [10:06] the day the prisoners were freed from the Bastille prison (i think i'm spelling it right), not sure if that's today though, that's just the biggest french holiday i know of [10:25] woah, in the Catalan LoCo we're discussing the best place for the Meerkat release party - and people are even sending candidacies for locations. This one looks amazing - even if you don't understand the language, you can see the huge amount of enthusiasm and effort they've put in there [10:25] http://dl.dropbox.com/u/183403/CandidaturaUbuntu110-10.pdf [10:29] holy cow [10:30] dpm: OMG! [10:30] It looks like the brochure of some company :p [10:30] that's what all said when we received it :) [10:31] dpm: That must have been a lot of work! [10:33] wow [10:33] then Catalan tea are pretty efficient [10:34] Neelie Kroes said it! Spain is one of the top three countries in the EU with regard to open source activity! :P [10:34] tea! fail! ;) [10:34] * dholbach likes tea [10:34] sense: behind France I bet you [10:35] czajkowski: probably [10:35] France, Spain and Germany [10:37] with the UK behind everyone [10:37] Even behind the Netherlands? [10:37] Ah, wait, we've got NOiV. [10:37] certainly [10:37] oh, jono's cleansweep picture looks awesome [10:37] nigelb: yeah! [10:38] it does. Sweep was my favourite. [10:38] AlanBell: Although many organisations here use the ISO recognition of OOXML as an excuse. [10:39] they don't even bother to think of excuses here [10:40] And that is what makes you worse! We've got excuses! [10:59] LOL [10:59] * nigelb is happy to report workplace transitioning to ubuntu [11:00] so far 4 systems including mine :) [11:00] dpm, molt fort! [11:01] ara, yeah :) [11:02] it did send an injection of reassurance in what we are doing, which seems to inspire other people too! [11:03] duanedesign: saw this and thought of you http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/view/6088/capture-screen-and-default-audio-input-device-and-generate-an-incompress-avi-file [11:04] * duanedesign looking [11:05] gah what is the nick of the guy who takes the UDS photos on irc ? [11:05] or his lp page so i can find his email [11:05] please [11:08] czajkowski: who took the panaroma photo? [11:08] vish: kiwi [11:08] czajkowski: if so , it kwwii [11:08] its* [11:09] yeah, that's how you spell it. :) [11:09] czajkowski: Design team! [11:09] :) , yeah , its confusing.. [11:11] thanks [11:26] hey dholbach, are you around? [11:37] paultag: morning early start [11:37] hey czajkowski :) [11:38] czajkowski: I start work in now + 30 minutes every day :) [11:41] what time is it there? [11:41] czajkowski: 06:40 [11:42] czajkowski: righto, I need to leave for real :) [11:42] see ya in a few :) [11:46] lordie [11:46] czajkowski: at 6:40? ;) [11:47] tis 11:47 here [11:48] czajkowski: no, I mean, was the "lordie" for the 6:40? :) [11:49] if so, thats late :D [11:49] * nigelb used to get to work at 5:40 am [12:03] hmm some of my emails seem to be hiding on me [12:03] most flipping annoying [12:06] wow, figlet is awesome [12:07] dholbach: neat trick :) [12:10] nigelb: i <3 figlet [12:10] nigelb: hard to find a place to use it [12:17] I always get out of bed at 6.25 to cycle to school, which starts at 8. [12:18] But 5.40 is early... [12:19] I used to get there at 5:40 [12:19] wake up was like 4 [12:19] duanedesign: did you see dholbach's session last night? ;) [12:31] nigelb: i did [12:31] nigelb: there is a figlet.pl for irssi too [13:06] duanedesign: easy ticket to get banned on channels ;) [13:10] nigelb: ohh yeah [13:12] Whoh! That look less time then I thought. I have queue open-sourced under the AGPL [13:33] paultag: where? [13:33] nigelb: http://github.com/paultag/queue <-- please fork :3 [13:33] nigelb: there are quite a few things that should and could be done better, if you have any ideas, throw a fork up and let me know about it [13:34] nigelb: it's all PHP and jQuery. Super simple. Took me like 2 hours at most. [13:34] PHP <# [13:34] <3 [13:34] nigelb: I think you'll like what I did with it :) [13:35] I'll poke it soon :) [13:36] nigelb: let me know what you think of the layout. I think it's pretty cool [13:36] * nigelb might get delayed tonight though [13:36] ton of work to do :? [13:36] :? [13:36] fail! [13:36] :/ [13:37] nigelb: please, do what you gota do! Don't want to start to get VV, now do ya? [13:37] hehe [13:37] nigelb: akgraner would kill me :) [13:39] wait, whats VV? [13:39] nigelb: volunteer vertigo, it's pre-burnout. akgraner and I are working on putting together a SWAT force to combat our feared enemy, VV. [13:40] paultag: mine is more like work vertigo [13:41] nigelb: yeah, but if you have all this community stuff + work, you will blow off community stuff, and then tend to drift away [13:41] nigelb: our job would be to make sure you don't have too much community stuff to overload [13:41] well, I'm shying away from stuff I can't do remember? [13:41] like I withdrew from the BT since I knew I won't have the time [13:41] nigelb: and you are a strong person because of it. There are a lot of people who don't, and just burnout [13:41] nigelb: I know [13:42] mostly I now am on reviewers team, classroom (and other classroom related stuff) and thats about it :) [13:44] nigelb: yeah :) [13:49] nigelb: anywho, anything you have to say / fix re queue, let me know. I'd love to hear / see it [13:49] brb === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach [14:45] paultag: one thing I gotta say, jQuery is ne awesome lib ;) [14:45] s/ne/one [14:50] jussi: poke! [14:50] Welcome back :) [14:50] hows the moving in, et al? [14:50] * jussi is not here. [14:50] * nigelb wonders if its his ghost [14:50] or if he's really a bot like I feared [14:52] Im sorry, I dont know anything about bots [14:52] nigelb: :) [14:54] la de da... its warm here and Im mostly headed out n a min, hence Im not here. [14:55] ah [15:16] hey nhandler, prod :) [15:16] Hey paultag [15:16] nhandler: delivered on-time and under-budget -- http://github.com/paultag/queue [15:17] nhandler: I was able to do it today before work over breakfast [15:17] paultag: Very nice. That is one item out of your queue ;) [15:17] nhandler: yessir! :) [15:18] nhandler: there are lots of hacks, so if you have any feedbacks or changes, just fork it on github and i'll get to it :) [15:20] Someone on Twitter asked me the difference between Dutch and German. :\ :/ :\ :/ [15:20] wow [15:20] who? and where is he/she from? [15:20] sense: Dutch, that's like Deutsch, right? [15:20] :-P [15:21] dholbach: You can't hear the difference! ahem [15:21] nigelb: A French guy. [15:21] sense: I have Dutch relatives, so I was exposed to some of it :) [15:21] typical [15:21] well that does not make sense [15:22] nigelb: Dutch always say that German is overly harsh, I've heard Germans complaining that Dutch sounds to gnawking. [15:22] too much gargh [15:22] dholbach: So you must know the difference! [15:22] Hey! Hey! German is a beautiful and romantic language [15:22] and very suitable for giving orders [15:22] sense: man, I was kidding :) [15:22] :) [15:23] Dutch is a Germanic language. After all, Dutch are just conceited Germans who, under French unfluence, decided they could do things better on their own. [15:23] as a kid I thought that adding "-tjes" to most of the words would make it Dutch, so "carrot", in German "Karotte", so in Dutch it must be "Karrottjes", I was told it wasn't that easy :) [15:24] LOL [15:24] haha [15:24] That would be worteltjes. [15:24] sense: I know :) [15:24] dholbach: You do! But nigelb doesn't. [15:24] for those who've been following football recently, here's a nice post from the Asturian LoCo: [15:24] http://blogs.altuxa.com/tapaponga/y-el-pulpu-albidra.html [15:24] dpm is Spanish, right? [15:25] sense: no, it's not that easy [15:25] dpm: he's Catalan!!! [15:25] That damn octopus was wrong during the final of the Europa Cup, but not this time. [15:25] dpm: hahaha, good one :) [15:25] Ah, those people are so chauvinistic they sing the national hymn each morning in front of a portrait of the king, right? [15:26] :-) [15:26] dpm send it to warthogs, it is hilarious! [15:26] sense: I'm sure most of the Catalan don't :) [15:26] haha [15:26] is warthogs the new sounders? [15:27] wait, whats warthogs? [15:27] sense: no, it's an internal canonical list [15:27] internal list [15:27] ahh [15:27] Ah, the internal sounders. [15:27] i fully expect it to be nothing like sounder [15:27] it's actually even more lame [15:27] which means it is :p [15:27] :p [15:27] hahaha [15:27] popey: why do you think its internel :p [15:27] It is probably less filled with people wanting to share their political views on libertarianism. [15:28] I think they make people sign NDA about that list :p [15:28] sounder used to be my favorite list [15:28] Yeah, Canonical is quite into NDAs. [15:28] don't remember what happened over the year. :( [15:28] * dholbach disengages from the discussion [15:28] Most companies make you sign them. [15:28] nigelb: I have not signed one to date :) [15:29] paultag: disadvantage of working with medical records of american public = NDA and something more [15:29] There was a small outrage on Identi.ca after the package name of the fonts contained the string -nda- [15:29] nigelb: yup. [15:29] sense: ahahah yeah [15:29] I had the -nda- in the file name fixed [15:29] sense: That also made the planet [15:30] jcastro: Yeah, that was solved quickly. [15:30] maia [15:30] we are transitioning it to ubuntu-private-fonts [15:30] and the unrest went away immediately. [15:31] GOD I hate labels [15:31] there's only like 3-4 weeks left until it's finished [15:31] nigelb: Did you also have to learn American accents and use an American name and pretend you were working from Ohio? We saw a documentary about call centres in India on school and the American companies are ashamed of outsourcing their work to India and the public is a bit racist, they don't want to be helped by Indians. [15:31] sense: I'm the LoCo contact for Ohio! [15:31] sense: nigelb can come visit [15:31] Can I come too? [15:32] sense: sure :) [15:32] If you pay the ticket! [15:32] nigelb: i know it is because I've talked about it before with canonical ppl [15:32] popey: ah, ok :) [15:32] sense: No, I never had to talk to people. [15:32] jcastro: There was a lot of misinformation in the beginning, and people asking in the comments of the official blog post for more information. [15:32] Just listen to doctors and transcribe [15:32] for the font.* [15:33] nigelb: Ok, so you were filing stuff? [15:33] sometimes I do think sounder should be shutdown [15:33] wow [15:33] the sounder list looks /horrible/ [15:33] popey: There were calls for that a while ago, I think Mark himself sent a (final) warning to the list. [15:33] That is one list I avoid [15:33] sense: No, I was essentially converting voice to text. [15:33] sense: i know, we discussed it on the cc [15:34] nigelb: Must have been boring. Was it? [15:34] * nigelb wonders what sounds is [15:34] sense: well, when I'm actuall working, it was fun. But when I take a step back and look at it, very very boring [15:34] enjoying new job 10 times better [15:34] good! [15:35] must have taught you a lot of English [15:35] NO [15:35] the previous job [15:35] no? [15:35] It taught me how many people of non-american descent become doctors in america [15:35] h [15:35] and how english isn't a language during medical studies :/ [15:35] aw [15:35] That is valuable experience for international conference, though. :) [15:35] Indian accent is tough to make out, for us and them [15:36] the american thought, it would be easy for us. We struggle just as much [15:36] s/american/americans/ [15:36] hispanic, persian are just as tough [15:36] No English accent is equal! I've been told that British can tell from what village someone comes by listening to the accent. [15:37] heh [15:37] sense: you can do that with American english as well, but mostly by state [15:37] the main trouble was sentences would be constructed wrongly, so it was difficult to make out the meaning [15:37] and we'd get lost trying to figure out what he was trying to say [15:37] That is problematic indeed. [15:37] sense: we are a bit more mixed up than that now! [15:37] nigelb: By the way, sounders is an old mailing list started during the first development cycle. I think it was a codename. The mailing list continued to be used and slowly became more and more off-topic. [15:38] AlanBell: yeah, times are changing, even in Britain [15:38] sense: ah, ok [15:38] * nigelb remembers Russel Peters joke about it [15:39] "Britian has the largest Indian population outside of India" :p [15:39] It's very hard to get a larger population of Indians than India. [15:39] How close are you to China? [15:39] sharing borders, occasional wars, etc [15:40] nigelb: How close in population? :) [15:40] ah, that way [15:40] * nigelb doesn't know [15:40] hey jono [15:40] * nigelb hugs jono [15:40] good morrow/afternoon jono! [15:40] Thanks for the blog post! [15:40] Again! [15:41] jono: Amazing stuffed animal on that blog post. What is it? [15:42] Sweep! [15:42]