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| penguin42 | I'm seeing black screen off a boot of the maverick 2.6.35-7 on a machine just upgraded from Lucid (i7 with Radeon 4350 graphics), if I remove the load_video and set gfxpayload=keep from the grub text I at least see a panic (related to interrupt mapping) - should removing the load_video and set gfxpayload=keep be safe? | 01:23 |
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| penguin42 | failsafe is just as broke | 01:25 |
| penguin42 | works with nointremap | 01:58 |
| achiang | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2010-July/030995.html | 02:08 |
| achiang | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/605614 | 02:08 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 605614 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "Maverick's grub-pc package (1.98+20100710-1ubuntu1) causes unbootable system (affects: 2) (heat: 12)" [Undecided,New] | 02:08 |
| penguin42 | achiang: It's not just the gfxpayload though, taking those out gets me a panic about interrupt remapping | 02:09 |
| * penguin42 is just writing a bug report | 02:10 | |
| achiang | penguin42: a stack trace would help | 02:10 |
| penguin42 | achiang: Just give me 3 mins to finish the bug report - it includes a lot of detail | 02:10 |
| achiang | heh, ok. /me was just drive-by triaging, i'm actually in the middle of something else. | 02:11 |
| * penguin42 taps flippers as he waits for launchpad | 02:13 | |
| penguin42 | ok, what have I missed on bug 605686 | 02:14 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 605686 in linux (Ubuntu) "[maverick] noioremap needed - Blocked an interrupt request due to source-id verificiation failure (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/605686 | 02:14 |
| achiang | penguin42: can you reproduce that with upstream? | 02:20 |
| penguin42 | achiang: Havne't tried yet, and I'm about to go to bed (it's 2:20am :-) ) - but will upstream be much different from a maverick 2.6.35 ? | 02:21 |
| achiang | penguin42: not that much different, but i was going to suggest a bisect. the kernel shouldn't be panicing like that | 02:21 |
| penguin42 | achiang: Well, a bit of googling suggests it could always be broken bios data structures - although I thought this was a pretty popular mbd | 02:22 |
| achiang | penguin42: are you running some unreleased bios? | 02:23 |
| penguin42 | no | 02:23 |
| achiang | the stuff in your DMI table looks a little funky | 02:23 |
| achiang | dmi.chassis.vendor: To Be Filled By O.E.M. | 02:23 |
| penguin42 | achiang: That's normal ; that's what you get if you buy a motherboard rather than buying a whole machine | 02:23 |
| achiang | penguin42: i mean, even if your bios is broken, 2.6.32 worked, right? so that means 2.6.35 shouldn't be choking | 02:24 |
| penguin42 | yeh except they've turned on a new feature in .35 that wasn't previously used | 02:24 |
| penguin42 | see http://old.nabble.com/-PATCH-1-2---Maverick--UBUNTU%3A--Config--Enable-CONFIG_INTR_REMAP%3Dy-to28966711.html#a28971597 | 02:25 |
| achiang | right, so maybe the kernel needs a quirk for your bios | 02:26 |
| penguin42 | yeh maybe; of course the interesting question is what % of bios actually work! | 02:26 |
| achiang | i'd expect that to work well on any server class machine. on a home machine... not so much | 02:27 |
| penguin42 | why? | 02:27 |
| achiang | because as you've discovered, it needs the bios to be written correctly | 02:28 |
| penguin42 | nod; you're hoping that the server ones are better written - that's being optimistic! | 02:29 |
| achiang | in my experience, server BIOSes are written by actual engineers. PC BIOSes seem to be a collection of random bits gathered by Arecibo and shoved into the motherboard | 02:29 |
| penguin42 | hehe | 02:29 |
| achiang | in my past life, i was a kernel developer on server class machines, and had quite a lot of interface with the firmware teams | 02:30 |
| achiang | suffice to say, when i occasionally talked to the laptop guys, i didn't get the same level of confidence from their bios guys | 02:31 |
| penguin42 | nod | 02:31 |
| achiang | penguin42: anyhow, if you have the time to do a bisect, i think that'd be great. otherwise, your bug report looks fine | 02:32 |
| penguin42 | achiang: I'm fairly sure it's the intremap - it was turned on 23rd June according to that series of posts | 02:32 |
| achiang | penguin42: right, i mean to say, there's probably something wrong in the intremap code; a bisect will help figure out what it is | 02:33 |
| penguin42 | that assumes that there is a working version in the remap case though - I'm not sure there is | 02:34 |
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| jjohansen-afk | be back on later | 02:35 |
| penguin42 | right, anyway, it's 2:36am and time for bed, I can look forward to figuring out all the other alpha fun tomorrow | 02:36 |
| penguin42 | oops - just spotted typo in title of that bug - did say noioremap, changed to nointremap | 02:37 |
| penguin42 | right, bed | 02:38 |
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| smb | morning | 08:48 |
| cking_ | morning | 08:48 |
| cooloney | smb: cking_ morning | 08:49 |
| cooloney | smb: GrueMaster tested security updates for fsl-imx51. boots fine | 08:49 |
| smb | cooloney, Yes, saw his email this morning | 08:50 |
| smb | cooloney, thanks to all guys testing | 08:50 |
| cooloney | smb: no problem, man | 08:51 |
| kraut | moin | 08:52 |
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| insider | please help, i use Ubuntu 9.10 with splash screen off and when i boot i see this message "udevd [1815] CONFIG_SYSF_DEPRECATED option udev ..." how to fix it? | 09:24 |
| insider | without reinstalling system because it works fine | 09:25 |
| insider | Linux 2.6.34 #1 SMP Thu Jul 8 19:41:21 EDT 2010 i686 GNU/Linux | 09:25 |
| apw | insider, those are just warnings arn't they | 09:30 |
| insider | yes but they slow down my booting speed | 09:30 |
| apw | they indicate your kernel and userspace are out of sync, which they are as you are not running the matched kernel | 09:30 |
| smb | I would think those are. And probably unavoidable with a newer kernel | 09:30 |
| insider | how can i disable CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED option? | 09:31 |
| insider | would it cause more problems? | 09:31 |
| apw | insider, you could try that, no idea if it would work not something i've tried | 09:32 |
| apw | how much time are you losing here, about .5s totoal ? | 09:32 |
| insider | about 15 seconds | 09:32 |
| apw | how many of those messages are you getting printed in totoal ? | 09:33 |
| apw | it would have to be a heck of a lot to account for 15s of boot time | 09:33 |
| insider | my laptop is Fujitsu V5535 with 2Gb Ram, Intel core 2 Duo 2ghz and boot time is 1.5-2 minutes | 09:33 |
| apw | how many of those messages are you getting printed in totoal ? | 09:34 |
| insider | i think they appear 2 or 3 times not less then 2 | 09:34 |
| apw | printing 3 messages is not adding 15s to your boot | 09:34 |
| insider | previous version of Ubuntu 9.10 that i used booted at 45 seconds | 09:34 |
| apw | insider, so can you pastbin the dmesg of the slower boot | 09:36 |
| insider | can you explain how to do it or where to find logs? | 09:36 |
| insider | i'm newbie | 09:36 |
| apw | type 'dmesg > FILE' to collect the data (in a terminal window) | 09:37 |
| insider | ok | 09:37 |
| apw | and then use pastebinit to send it up to the pastebin | 09:37 |
| insider | wht is pastebinit? | 09:40 |
| insider | i haven't it installed | 09:40 |
| insider | i've already read | 09:40 |
| apw | pastebinit is a command to send a file to a pastebin and tell you the url to paste in here | 09:41 |
| apw | so that we can see the file contents | 09:41 |
| smb | or use http://pastebin.com/ ? | 09:41 |
| insider | thanks i'm installing it | 09:42 |
| insider | http://pastebin.com/R2LUWbBK | 09:43 |
| apw | insider, there is exactly one of those messages reported by the kernel | 09:49 |
| apw | insider, i assume this is your own configuration as the dmesg is lacking the normal timestamps which might allow one to find out whether it is taking a long time and which bit | 09:50 |
| apw | [ 0.000000] Initializing cgroup subsys cpuset | 09:50 |
| apw | from my dmesg ^^ | 09:50 |
| insider | strange | 09:51 |
| apw | why are you running a 2.6.34 kernel anyhow? | 09:52 |
| insider | i upgraded it from 2.6.30 | 09:53 |
| insider | how to configure dmesg to show time? | 09:54 |
| apw | CONFIG_PRINTK_TIME=y | 09:56 |
| insider | thanks | 09:57 |
| apw | insider, why are you needing to run a custom kernel at all ? | 09:58 |
| smb | 2.6.30 was never a release | 09:58 |
| smb | Jaunty: 2.6.28 | 09:58 |
| smb | Karmic: 2.6.31 | 09:59 |
| apw | what userspace are you running all these on, as 2.6.30 was never a release ... | 09:59 |
| apw | heh jinz | 09:59 |
| apw | jinx | 09:59 |
| insider | 2.6.30.9 | 09:59 |
| insider | intrepid | 10:00 |
| smb | That was 2.6.27 | 10:00 |
| apw | you are running a kernel which is newer than lucid on an intrepid userspace ... no wonder its having compatibility issues | 10:00 |
| apw | insider, is there some reason you cannot just update the whole thing ? | 10:00 |
| insider | now i'm running karmic | 10:00 |
| insider | apw: i updated system | 10:01 |
| insider | apt-get update && apt-get upgrade won't help | 10:01 |
| apw | upgrade-manager ? | 10:01 |
| insider | didn't try | 10:02 |
| insider | apw: where to past it? | 10:03 |
| apw | past ? | 10:03 |
| insider | paste | 10:04 |
| apw | to paste what ? | 10:04 |
| insider | this command upgrade-manager or it is not a command i misunderstood you | 10:05 |
| apw | sorry its update-manager ... normally use the menu when i use it | 10:07 |
| insider | only skype updates))) | 10:10 |
| apw | insider, what are you trying to do by running these kernels, are you just trying to get later stuff so a full update is acceptable | 10:10 |
| apw | if so you can use update-manager -d which will offer you the later releases as upgrade destinations | 10:10 |
| apw | without -d it wil only update your current release | 10:10 |
| insider | will try now | 10:10 |
| apw | if you need to keep the older release userspace but want thekernel i would suggest taking the kernels from the later releases directly instrad of making your own | 10:10 |
| insider | thanks for help going to reboot | 10:32 |
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| amitk | any way to exclude a certain path from a git-diff ? I'm doing 'git diff --dirstat v2.6.34..' and want to exclude the ubuntu/ directory | 11:45 |
| ikepanhc | want to know too.... listening | 11:57 |
| apw | amitk, don't know of any way to do that inversion no | 12:00 |
| amitk | bummer | 12:01 |
| apw | as file lists can be directories would something like | 12:02 |
| apw | git diff --dirstat v2.6.34.. -- `ls -d | grep -v ubuntu` | 12:02 |
| apw | approximate what you wanted | 12:02 |
| apw | ls -1d strictly | 12:03 |
| apw | (thats a one) | 12:03 |
| apw | amitk, ^^ | 12:03 |
| amitk | apw: 'grep -v ubuntu' takes away the offending directories from display but not from the end result (% of code in various directories among changes I care about). | 12:15 |
| apw | amitk, not from the result, i am using the directories as file limits so it should onlly report the diff for the directories not ubuntu and same with the overall results | 12:16 |
| amitk | apw: doesn't seem to work. http://paste.ubuntu.com/463985/ | 12:18 |
| apw | git diff --dirstat v2.6.34.. -- `ls -1d * | grep -v ubuntu` | 12:20 |
| apw | try that instead | 12:20 |
| apw | amitk, ^^ | 12:21 |
| amitk | apw: yeah, that seems more sensible. | 12:21 |
| apw | git diff --dirstat v2.6.34.. -- `ls -1 | grep -v ubuntu` | 12:21 |
| apw | or indeed that probabally works too | 12:21 |
| apw | yeah the last is the simplest | 12:22 |
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| amitk | apw: yup, that seems to DTRT | 12:22 |
| amitk | tgardner: are we there yet? :) (IGEPv2) | 14:02 |
| tgardner | amitk, not quite. I at least git it to do something different on boot but I don't have the right serial cable. Loic is bringing one to Prague | 14:04 |
| tgardner | amitk, so, what else do we need for omap4 in mainline Maverick other then the config options? | 14:05 |
| amitk | tgardner: that itself will enable omap4 + one board based on omap4 (sdp). But Bryan will pull 1-2 patches from the tree slated for 2.6.36 merge to add support for the panda board that ARM team already has access to | 14:07 |
| amitk | that = applying my config patch | 14:07 |
| tgardner | amitk, cool. will that be sufficient such that we can drop the ti-omap4 branch altogether? | 14:08 |
| amitk | tgardner: :-D | 14:08 |
| amitk | you're kidding right? | 14:08 |
| tgardner | amitk, well, no. | 14:08 |
| amitk | tgardner: that branch has over 700 non-mainlined patches. | 14:08 |
| tgardner | we'll have 2 packages that both support omap4 ? | 14:09 |
| tgardner | guess I was too naive | 14:09 |
| ogra | FSVO *support* | 14:09 |
| amitk | tgardner: yes, one that is the whole works (-omap4 only) and one that is mainline-only with multi-omap support (omap3 and 4) in a single binary | 14:09 |
| apw | amitk, waht use if the multi-omap one if it doesn't work ? | 14:10 |
| tgardner | amitk, *sigh* - you've just dashed my hopes. maybe next release? | 14:10 |
| amitk | apw: it gets you the serial port on omap4 | 14:10 |
| apw | amitk, ahh i see | 14:10 |
| amitk | and the same kernel gets you almost everything on omap3 | 14:10 |
| amitk | so one small step to show kernel consolidation | 14:11 |
| amitk | tgardner: next release - hopefully a big chunk but not everything | 14:12 |
| apw | akgraner, hey you about ? | 14:55 |
| akgraner | apw, I am - what's up? | 14:55 |
| apw | akgraner, looks like the wireless link into your house might be sick | 14:56 |
| akgraner | hmmm - let me investigate - brb | 14:57 |
| apw | akgraner, your other link must be up | 14:57 |
| akgraner | it is - I'm online ;-) | 14:57 |
| apw | akgraner, could you try and telnet to hellhawk.shadowen.org for me from you rmachine | 14:58 |
| apw | then we can find out the IP addy of the link and see if its avail both ways | 14:58 |
| penguin42 | does anyone understand the check_timer interrupt checking code? | 15:10 |
| * penguin42 is wondering if it could just disable interrupt remapping rather than panicing, there appears to be an iommu_disable_intr_remapping that sounds promissing | 15:13 | |
| tgardner | penguin42, have you seen https://launchpad.net/bugs/605686 ? Same problem? | 15:17 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 605686 in linux (Ubuntu) "[maverick] nointremap needed - Blocked an interrupt request due to source-id verificiation failure (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] | 15:17 |
| penguin42 | tgardner: Yeh, that's my bug | 15:17 |
| penguin42 | and my mail :-) | 15:17 |
| penguin42 | tgardner: But I was just wondering if it could actually fall back rather than panicing | 15:18 |
| tgardner | penguin42, ah, you're cloaked so its hard to tell. | 15:18 |
| penguin42 | I am? | 15:18 |
| penguin42 | hmm I should fix that | 15:18 |
| tgardner | penguin42, I'll bug Intel about this driver. Its quite complex. | 15:19 |
| penguin42 | tgardner: Yeh, the interrupt handling on modern machines is scarily complex | 15:19 |
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| cnd | http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/acme/linux-2.6.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/perf/core | 16:01 |
| akgraner | apw, you around? | 16:09 |
| apw | akgraner, yep talking to pete | 16:11 |
| akgraner | ok the server is back online now | 16:12 |
| apw | akgraner, ok thanks ... will check it out | 16:13 |
| ogasawara | cking_: your work item to investigate intel graphics drivers on EFI, can I mark that done? | 16:29 |
| ogasawara | cking_: I saw no response from the email you sent | 16:29 |
| lag | akgraner: Do you know what the issue was? | 16:30 |
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| akgraner | lag, I don't know exactly what happens with that particular server - I just know what to do when it hangs :-/ | 16:35 |
| lag | akgraner: But it happened to both servers? Unless there is a sever in between them? | 16:36 |
| akgraner | lag, you'll have to ask pgraner about that when he is online again... sorry :-/ | 16:36 |
| lag | No worries :) | 16:36 |
| lag | Thanks for sorting it in any case | 16:36 |
| akgraner | lag, I'm the NTEU :-) but happy to help when and where I can. | 16:36 |
| lag | :-) | 16:37 |
| tgardner | ogasawara, https://launchpad.net/bugs/605686 | 16:40 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 605686 in linux (Ubuntu) "[maverick] nointremap needed - Blocked an interrupt request due to source-id verificiation failure (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] | 16:40 |
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| penguin42 | Sanity check; I'm following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile ; if I've got the source archive and want to patch it then do I just patch the directory that's checked out there - what do I need to do to make sure it gets a name unique from the standard ubuntu kernel version? | 17:05 |
| penguin42 | will the AUTOBUILD do that ? | 17:05 |
| tgardner | penguin42, edit the debian.master/changelog and add '.my_version_here' to the stuff in parens | 17:14 |
| penguin42 | ah ok, thanks | 17:14 |
| tgardner | penguin42, don't forget to rerun the 'clean' target afterwards | 17:15 |
| penguin42 | tgardner: OK, so do whatever edits I wanted, update the changelog, then do the clean thing and then the binary-whatever ? | 17:16 |
| tgardner | penguin42, sounds right | 17:17 |
| penguin42 | ok, thanks | 17:17 |
| tgardner | mpoirier, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/10.04/release/ubuntu-10.04-server-armel+omap.img | 17:38 |
| * manjo getting lunch will be back soon | 17:39 | |
| jjohansen | mpoirier: move ureadahead.conf to ureadahead.conf.disabled | 18:01 |
| mpoirier | jjohansen: fantastic thanks. | 18:01 |
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| jjohansen | -> Lunch | 20:10 |
| pgraner | ogasawara, ping | 20:13 |
| ogasawara | pgraner: pong | 20:13 |
| pgraner | ogasawara, thought you might like to keep an eye on this since you just rebased | 20:14 |
| pgraner | ogasawara, https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16401 | 20:14 |
| ubot2 | pgraner: Error: Could not parse XML returned by bugzilla.kernel.org: The read operation timed out (https://bugzilla.kernel.org/xml.cgi?id=16401) | 20:14 |
| pgraner | ogasawara, ext3 corruption at random | 20:14 |
| ogasawara | ogasawara: thanks, I'll put it on my radar. bugzilla seems to not want to load at the moment | 20:15 |
| pgraner | ogasawara, yea I caught it on the ext upstream list | 20:15 |
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| * ogasawara lunch | 20:35 | |
| akgraner | bjf, ping | 20:51 |
| bjf | akgraner, pong | 20:51 |
| * penguin42 wonders where dch put my changelog entry | 20:53 | |
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| * penguin42 does a 'wow - it boots' | 21:54 | |
| * penguin42 attaches a gratuitous hack patch to bug 605686 - it seems to work, but I wouldn't put much more confidence in it | 22:01 | |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 605686 in linux (Ubuntu) "[maverick] nointremap needed - Blocked an interrupt request due to source-id verificiation failure (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/605686 | 22:01 |
| jjohansen | running an errand | 22:40 |
| LLStarks | ogasawara, maverick kernel now has built-in ndiswrapper modules, right? | 23:19 |
| ogasawara | LLStarks: it's not built-in, enabled as a module | 23:24 |
| ogasawara | LLStarks: config.common.ubuntu:2750:CONFIG_NDISWRAPPER=m | 23:24 |
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| LLStarks | thanks ogaswara, still need to pick juliank's brain about his dkms package | 23:52 |
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