| TenPhil | Hello | 01:37 |
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| nhandler | Hey TenPhil | 01:37 |
| TenPhil | I got a little question | 01:37 |
| nhandler | What is your question TenPhil ? | 01:37 |
| TenPhil | I'm going to try to introduce pc-users at my uni to Ubuntu | 01:38 |
| TenPhil | are there any previous reports, questionnaires and the like that I can use to check what experiences people have as new users? | 01:38 |
| TenPhil | my campus has about 10k students, 60% of which are female. | 01:39 |
| nhandler | TenPhil: Not that I know of. Is there a LUG or LoCo nearby? | 01:39 |
| TenPhil | No, there is no LUG or LoCo. It just hasn't been viable. | 01:39 |
| nhandler | TenPhil: What were you planning to do with the results of the survey ? | 01:40 |
| TenPhil | The question is if it is useful for anyone, I could just use it for myself to give the best guidance, but I could also write it up more formally and distribute it to anyone interested. | 01:43 |
| TenPhil | nhandler: I might lead to me filing some papercuts and highlighting usability issues, but it could be that if one is made it can be used by others. | 01:44 |
| TenPhil | that's why I'm checking if anyone else has done it, but it's not publicised anywhere at least. | 01:45 |
| nhandler | TenPhil: I am sure that some people would find having questions like that useful (for LoCo events and other similar things). | 01:45 |
| TenPhil | nhandler: Ok, seems like I've got to make a blog about this then and make some drafts | 01:48 |
| nhandler | TenPhil: I'm sure some people here (and probably in #ubuntu-locoteams) would be up for helping you with this | 01:49 |
| TenPhil | nhandler: yeah, I have the blog and I've started on a first post, and I'll blog about the progress. I'll probably put up docs on Scribd, so that drafts can be published and commented upon. does that seem ok? | 01:55 |
| valorie | hey akgraner, I'd forgotten you were coming too | 02:55 |
| valorie | how cool is that? | 02:55 |
| valorie | I'm driving down Fri. night, and will be at CLS too | 02:56 |
| valorie | staying in Portland Sat. - Wed. | 02:56 |
| valorie | still need to find somewhere to sleep Wed night and Thurs night | 02:56 |
| valorie | I can commute from Vancouver, but I'd rather not, since traffic is deadly | 02:57 |
| akgraner | valorie, I'll be there Monday - no sitter coverage for the weekend so I am missing CLS this time | 03:07 |
| TenPhil | czajkowski: Hey! thanx for the email, I think I got a plan now. | 10:20 |
| AlanBell | TenPhil: where are you based? | 10:22 |
| TenPhil | AlanBell: Trondheim, Norway | 10:22 |
| AlanBell | !no | 10:23 |
| ubot4 | Hvis du vil diskutere på Norsk, vennligst gå til #ubuntu-no. Takk! | 10:23 |
| AlanBell | that would be your loco channel, they might be able to help | 10:23 |
| TenPhil | AlanBell: Yeah I'm on their channel already. | 10:24 |
| AlanBell | ok, good | 10:25 |
| AlanBell | are you a lecturer? | 10:25 |
| TenPhil | no, student. | 10:25 |
| czajkowski | TenPhil: no problem if you need a hand just ask | 10:26 |
| czajkowski | there are loads of us in here :) | 10:26 |
| TenPhil | czajkowski & AlanBell: talked to nhandler here yd, and found out that I should make a standardised questionnaire and guideline for new users, to find out how they experience using ubuntu | 10:28 |
| AlanBell | TenPhil: is there a computer club or society already at your uni? | 10:28 |
| TenPhil | and test it on new users I get here. | 10:28 |
| AlanBell | oh, there is that introduce 100 users project thing, who was driving that one? | 10:29 |
| TenPhil | There is no LUG or LoCo, there are some but they have paid membership... | 10:29 |
| TenPhil | AlanBell: that would be really interesting! | 10:29 |
| AlanBell | https://launchpad.net/~100ubuntuusers | 10:30 |
| TenPhil | I have a degree in social sciences, so I can apply that knowledge and experience. | 10:30 |
| TenPhil | AlanBell: thanks! | 10:32 |
| czajkowski | TenPhil: do talk to the design team or matthew revell so they've both conducted usability tests | 10:33 |
| TenPhil | czajkowski: I'll send them an email. | 10:34 |
| czajkowski | mrevell on irc /launchpad | 10:34 |
| czajkowski | ivanka on irc for design | 10:34 |
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| pleia2 | hypatia: when you have a moment, I can show you how to update the blueprint (yay logo finished!) | 17:23 |
| pleia2 | Pendulum: can we chat about mentoring when you have some time? | 17:23 |
| Pendulum | pleia2: I'm really booked through the end of this week. Maybe beginning of next week? | 17:24 |
| pleia2 | Pendulum: well, mostly I was wondering if you wanted to swap roles, I do rewrite and you do review, but it can wait until next week | 17:24 |
| pleia2 | mostly because you seem busy, and I have some time this month | 17:24 |
| czajkowski | gah cannot find the we're not gonna take it video | 17:25 |
| czajkowski | boooo | 17:25 |
| pleia2 | czajkowski: http://justanothertriager.wordpress.com/2010/05/11/uds-m-day-1-overview/ | 17:26 |
| pleia2 | ^^ nigelb links it here | 17:26 |
| czajkowski | whooo | 17:27 |
| nigelb | happy it helps :) | 17:27 |
| pleia2 | :) | 17:28 |
| czajkowski | oh it does | 17:28 |
| czajkowski | poor Pendulum got to listen to it every morning | 17:28 |
| pleia2 | lol | 17:28 |
| nigelb | heh | 17:41 |
| nigelb | czajkowski: you're evil! | 17:48 |
| nigelb | Now I want to listen to it too :D | 17:48 |
| Dolasilla | cool! It's the first time I see it! :) | 18:08 |
| czajkowski | it;s very adictive | 18:11 |
| Dolasilla | indeed.. | 18:17 |
| Pendulum | czajkowski: do you now have it stuck on repeat? | 18:27 |
| Dolasilla | loop.... | 18:27 |
| Pendulum | nigelb: every morning of UDS we blared it in our room. Might have woken up the guys next door (they've never confirmed whether it did or didn't) | 18:27 |
| Pendulum | pleia2: that would be find with me | 18:29 |
| Pendulum | (sorry, had gone to get some lunch) | 18:29 |
| pleia2 | Pendulum: ok great, I'll work on that and be in touch when I need review :) | 18:32 |
| Pendulum | great, thanks :) | 18:33 |
| nigelb | Pendulum: heh, who were the guys beside you? | 18:40 |
| Pendulum | nigelb: jono and Stuart Langridge | 18:41 |
| nigelb | hahahaha | 18:44 |
| AlanBell | http://lwn.net/Articles/396174 | 19:31 |
| pleia2 | I tweeted about it, considered fwding to the list | 19:33 |
| pleia2 | http://www.fsf.org/news/recommendations-from-the-womens-caucus is the pretty version | 19:33 |
| pleia2 | I helped with some of the docs | 19:33 |
| AlanBell | lwn is indeed not a pretty website | 19:34 |
| pleia2 | I suppose fsf arguably isn't either, but it is the source | 19:36 |
| AlanBell | anyhow, in terms of substance, is there anything actionable that we should be doing in Ubuntu | 19:38 |
| AlanBell | looking at the points about conferences reminds me | 19:39 |
| AlanBell | we did an event in London last week, there were two women speakers and about 10% registered names that I recognised as female names | 19:40 |
| AlanBell | both speakers pulled out (for perfectly understandable personal reasons) and there were way less than 10% in the audience | 19:40 |
| pleia2 | we do have a section of our wiki for people to list conferences they're attending, but it kinda died | 19:41 |
| AlanBell | there was about a 50% dropout rate in the registrations overall, is there any reason or other experience of high dropout rates from registration to attending of women? | 19:41 |
| pleia2 | http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/Events/2010CommunityEvents | 19:42 |
| pleia2 | I can't think of any | 19:42 |
| czajkowski | AlanBell: that happens at any conference tbh | 19:43 |
| czajkowski | has nout to do with women tb | 19:43 |
| AlanBell | czajkowski: the overall dropout rate is fine, I understand that | 19:43 |
| czajkowski | out of 4 talks on open source at the leeds event, 2 were women | 19:44 |
| czajkowski | ;) | 19:44 |
| AlanBell | but at a guess 50% of the chaps didn't turn up and maybe 75% of the women didn't | 19:44 |
| czajkowski | that's good | 19:44 |
| pleia2 | I don't know of any statistics listing women as more likely to dropout, in the cases I know of women not being able to attend their reasons had nothing to do with gender, just general personal or work considerations | 19:44 |
| AlanBell | yeah, the speakers had nothing to do with gender, just random and unfortunate | 19:45 |
| czajkowski | actually the only 2 female speakers at CLC Leeds were on open source | 20:02 |
| MarkDude | pleia2, the UW handout has gotten a favorable reaction | 20:07 |
| pleia2 | MarkDude: great! | 20:08 |
| * MarkDude showed some it to some folks on the train | 20:10 | |
| MarkDude | & gave out some stickers also, plus 2 Lucid CDs :D | 20:11 |
| pleia2 | nice :) | 20:12 |
| pleia2 | I realized I broke the style guidelines with that flier, oops | 20:13 |
| pleia2 | should have had more padding around the logo | 20:13 |
| * pleia2 loses 10 internet design points | 20:13 | |
| AlanBell | canonical had a great big ubuntu popup which broke the style guidelines | 20:13 |
| pleia2 | ok, well it's good to know that none of us can get it right :) | 20:14 |
| AlanBell | it was only going to be spotted by the hardcore followers of the design toolkit | 20:14 |
| AlanBell | they had the word "ubuntu" running vertically from bottom to top and had rotated the circle of friends too | 20:15 |
| pleia2 | tsk | 20:15 |
| czajkowski | ohhh http://conferences.ted.com/TEDWomen/ | 21:59 |
| czajkowski | maco: it's coming soon to your area | 22:00 |
| pleia2 | wow, neat | 22:01 |
| czajkowski | yup | 22:03 |
| czajkowski | came across on the womoz mailing list | 22:03 |
| czajkowski | Interesting: | 22:03 |
| czajkowski | http://conferences.ted.com/TEDWomen/ | 22:03 |
| czajkowski | Some may feel this is a way of separating the women and thus doing "she's pretty good at ______ for a girl", but on the other hand it's a well known brand name of innovation and high quality speaking throwing some of its clout and bright starry lights on what will most likely be a stellar cast. | 22:03 |
| czajkowski | Discuss? | 22:03 |
| MichelleQ | czajkowski: yeah, I saw it this morning. I'm hoping to apply for a fellowship | 22:04 |
| czajkowski | MichelleQ: what does a fellowship mean? | 22:04 |
| MichelleQ | attendee | 22:04 |
| MichelleQ | paid for | 22:04 |
| czajkowski | is that like sponsorship? | 22:04 |
| czajkowski | ahhh | 22:04 |
| MichelleQ | yeah | 22:04 |
| czajkowski | using english not americanisms :p | 22:04 |
| MichelleQ | sorry... | 22:04 |
| MichelleQ | it's what TED called it | 22:05 |
| czajkowski | grin | 22:05 |
| * MichelleQ blames someone else. | 22:05 | |
| czajkowski | ^5 | 22:05 |
| * belkinsa blames the Brits. | 22:05 | |
| AlanBell | oi! | 22:05 |
| MichelleQ | AlanBell: thought that said OIL, which has thank god stopped flowing in the gulf. | 22:06 |
| czajkowski | oh did the plug work ? | 22:06 |
| MichelleQ | yes, for the moment. | 22:07 |
| MichelleQ | whether or not it *stays* is a different story | 22:08 |
| AlanBell | MichelleQ: blaming that on us too now, whatever next! | 22:08 |
| belkinsa | That's good to hear, and yeah, that would be another story (and another mess)/ | 22:08 |
| MichelleQ | AlanBell: nope, not blaming the British... just the British who have anything to do with petroleum. | 22:08 |
| MichelleQ | :-D | 22:08 |
| belkinsa | I was just playing off what we were talking before this topic. | 22:09 |
| MichelleQ | I'm teasing AlanBell relentlessly. No worries. | 22:09 |
| belkinsa | I know, :). | 22:10 |
| AlanBell | yeah, I deserve it | 22:10 |
| belkinsa | xD | 22:10 |
| czajkowski | lordie remind me not to make a joke again :) | 22:13 |
| MichelleQ | rofl | 22:13 |
| Pendulum | that reminds me that I need to go look up recent TED talks as the brother of a mate of mine from high school actually got to give one recently, I think | 22:23 |
| MichelleQ | nice! | 22:23 |
| Pendulum | yeah | 22:24 |
| MichelleQ | I'm still waiting for the CFP to open for TEDxTampa. Think Mike is going to submit. | 22:24 |
| Pendulum | my absolute favourite TED talk I've seen is Aimee Mullins. Not directly tech related, but an awesome talk :) | 22:24 |
| MichelleQ | There've been some amazing talks... my favorites tend to be non-tech at all. | 22:25 |
| Pendulum | she talked about design of prostheses (she's a double amputee and a paralympian and a model) | 22:25 |
| MichelleQ | very cool. The founder of Wikipedia spoke at tedtampa, that was quite interesting! | 22:26 |
| hypatia | Pendulum: you should watch the recent malaria one | 22:29 |
| hypatia | my sweetie is in it :) | 22:29 |
| belkinsa | Is this stuff on YouTube? | 22:30 |
| hypatia | no, they have their own flashplayer, or you can download it in h264 | 22:30 |
| Pendulum | ah, I was wrong, my mate's brother is a current TED Global Fellow, no | 22:31 |
| Pendulum | *not a speaker | 22:31 |
| Pendulum | hypatia: which one is it? | 22:33 |
| belkinsa | Sorry for that, I'm a total newbie at this (IRC) | 22:33 |
| hypatia | belkinsa: no worries :) | 22:34 |
| belkinsa | Oh, thanks, Hypatia. | 22:34 |
| hypatia | Pendulum: http://www.ted.com/talks/nathan_myhrvold_could_this_laser_zap_malaria.html | 22:34 |
| Pendulum | belkinsa: you can find all the videos we're talking about on www.ted.com :) | 22:34 |
| hypatia | he's at the end in the red labcoat | 22:34 |
| * MichelleQ still waits for my skeeter-zapper... | 22:35 | |
| belkinsa | Thank you also, Pendulum. | 22:35 |
| Pendulum | MichelleQ: what do you think the laser is? | 22:39 |
| MichelleQ | I know what it is! I've volunteered my backyard as a test facility. | 22:40 |
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