[00:24] <shadeslayer> anyone who can upload to main?
[00:24] <shadeslayer> also.. apachelogger http://pastebin.com/BHrXeiZF << digikam debdiff
[00:38] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/Patches/digikam.debdiff << wget that
[02:27] <Mamarok> wasn't kdepim beta supposed to be in experimental? It shows up in the beta PPA... very bad idea for alpha quality software :(
[02:28] <jjesse> are we at alph2 stage?
[02:28] <jjesse> Mamarok wasn't there an email to the -devel list about kdepim?
[02:28] <jjesse> i meant alpha3 stage
[02:28] <Mamarok> jjesse: read Rohan's mail to kubuntu-devel, it was also discussed here
[02:28] <jjesse> oh yeah that email says experimental
[02:28] <Mamarok> the kdepim devs should have labeled it alpha, not beta, that os the first error, but with the warning they gave it certainly does not belong to the beta PPA
[02:29] <Mamarok> was*
[02:29] <Mamarok> so whoever pushed that to the beta PPA should revert that ASAP
[02:30] <Mamarok> it was discussed here to stay in experimental
[02:31] <jjesse> sos someone messed up :)
[02:37] <yofel> er... looking at the ppa page, beta backports has kdepim - 4:4.4.5-0ubuntu1~lucid1~ppa10 and experimental  	 4:4.5~beta1-0ubuntu1~ppa2     what's wrong?
[02:37] <Mamarok> well, it shows up in the beta PPA, and that is definitely wrong
[02:38] <Mamarok> unless I read tha wrong, let me check again
[02:38] <Mamarok> that*
[02:44] <Mamarok> silly me, I had the experimental ppa activated :( sorry for the noise
[03:30] <maxwellian> Am I going crazy, or weren't there like four IRC sessions about Qt development?
[03:30] <maxwellian> I can't find them now.
[07:11] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: i copied them over to experimental
[07:12] <shadeslayer> lemme triple check
[07:13] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: ok,see beta backports has kdepim 4.4.5 but experimental has 4.5~beta1
[08:04] <Quintasan> \o
[08:07] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: hey
[08:10] <Quintasan> oh
[08:10] <Quintasan> hiho
[08:10] <Quintasan> The Kadu mege was working, pkgbinarymangler was broken yesterday
[08:10] <Quintasan> :S
[08:11] <shadeslayer> ahh :D
[08:12] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: brb
[08:24] <Quintasan> lol
[08:24] <Quintasan> it still won't build
[08:24] <Quintasan> something is wrong with rules
[08:26] <Quintasan> or with my head
[08:34] <jussi> good morning world
[08:50] <Quintasan> jussi: \o
[08:50] <Quintasan> JontheEchidna: ping
[08:51] <jussi> o/
[09:28] <valorie> that failblog link froze rekonq
[09:38] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: ^^^
[10:14] <Quintasan> apachelogger: ping
[10:54] <freinhard> hi!
[10:54] <Quintasan> freinhard: \o
[10:55] <freinhard> can someone confirm this behaviour of kate in 4.5rc2: saving a python file makes a messagebox appear stating that the filter python-encoding could not be found
[10:56] <freinhard> my local trunk version of kate has a lib ktexteditor_python-encoding.so but the 4.5rc2 version does not ship this
[11:43] <shadeslayer> valorie: hmm
[11:45] <shadeslayer> seems to work on a brand new install of kubuntu
[12:24] <shadeslayer> Riddell: around?
[12:24] <shadeslayer> :(
[12:24] <Riddell> hi shadeslayer 
[12:24] <shadeslayer> Riddell: \o
[12:24] <shadeslayer> Riddell: i have a debdiff for digikam
[12:24] <shadeslayer> can you upload it?
[12:25] <shadeslayer> Riddell: http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/Patches/digikam.debdiff
[12:25] <Riddell> not just now I'm afraid, I'm about to catch a train to Prague
[12:25] <shadeslayer> ohh
[12:25] <shadeslayer> Riddell: ok :D
[12:25] <shadeslayer> Riddell: anyone else i can poke?
[12:26] <shadeslayer> btrfs+kubuntu is good,but not good for apt :(
[12:26] <shadeslayer> unpacks and installs stuff slowly
[12:33] <apachelogger> Quintasan: pong
[12:47] <shadeslayer> oh also..
[13:11] <CIA-33> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100716121134-hdz5vfbuyr1pltwp * src/ (3 files in 2 dirs) s/AutoStart/Autostart kthxbai
[13:12] <apachelogger> \o/
[13:12] <apachelogger> akonadi migrated to postgresql
[13:12] <apachelogger> if only I could share it with the rest of the world :S
[13:13] <ScottK> http://twitter.com/DBAHULK
[13:24] <CIA-33> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100716122414-ojh307i3akyzrpsn * src/ (kcmodule/Module.cpp statusnotifier/StatusNotifier.cpp) Add a nice help menu
[13:28] <JontheEchidna> Quintasan: pong
[13:34] <CIA-33> [digikam] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100716123330-3uycljaq9bqam0i4 * debian/changelog mark as unreleased, no need to upload this immediately - also fix meaning of changelog entry
[13:34] <Quintasan> gah too late
[13:34] <Quintasan> JontheEchidna: I forgot what I wanted to ask >_<
[13:34] <JontheEchidna> lol
[13:36] <shadeslayer> hehe
[13:41] <apachelogger> Riddell: btw, most recent snapshot of u1-kde works a lot better in the UI section ;)
[13:53] <apachelogger> http://imagebin.ca/view/bJeLGB.html
[13:53] <apachelogger> this is most weird
[13:53] <apachelogger> why does it cause peaks
[13:54] <apachelogger> and actuall peak beyond the set limit
[13:57] <apachelogger> and then apparently at some point it will fall apart and loose the connection
[13:57] <ScottK> TCP rate shaping?
[13:58] <apachelogger> ScottK: is that common?
[14:01] <apachelogger> ScottK: <verterok> apachelogger: the current implementaion of the throttling causes those peaks, we are not using tcp rate shaping
[14:08] <apachelogger> ScottK: crash is coming from twisted's throttling implementation being broken it seems
[14:08] <apachelogger> maybe I should rewrite the syncdaemon in Qt :P
[14:17] <ScottK> Nice.
[14:20] <JontheEchidna> yay for kde-l10n: http://simplest-image-hosting.net/jpg-0-plasma-desktoplk1425 two days later: http://simplest-image-hosting.net/jpg-0-plasma-desktopfa1425
[14:22] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: hehe.. silly fonts :D
[14:24] <JontheEchidna> shadeslayer: oh, actually a great way to help muon is translation, if you were interested.
[14:25] <shadeslayer> sorry.. i cant translate.. else i would have saved the Hi translations in the kde 4.5 release :D
[14:25] <JontheEchidna> :D
[14:25] <shadeslayer> also.. LP--
[14:25] <shadeslayer> why does it ask for passwords twice?
[14:25] <shadeslayer> ~karma LP
[14:25] <kubotu> karma for LP: -9
[14:25] <shadeslayer> whoa :D
[14:26] <JontheEchidna> http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/4278 :D
[14:26] <yofel> are you part of the beta testers?
[14:26] <shadeslayer> yofel: ubuntu members
[14:27] <shadeslayer> they get those fonts
[14:27] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: lol
[14:27] <yofel> no, I mean 'why does it ask for passwords twice?'
[14:27] <shadeslayer> ohh
[14:27] <shadeslayer> yes
[14:27] <yofel> I can only think of 1) production 2) edge
[14:33] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Why can't you translate?
[14:33] <shadeslayer> ScottK: uh.. its pretty weird
[14:33] <ScottK> Translating or why you can't?
[14:33] <shadeslayer> hi translations have words ive never heard of :P
[14:34] <ScottK> Oh.
[14:34] <shadeslayer> id rather learn Qt 
[14:34] <shadeslayer> my krunner krashed :\
[14:36] <shadeslayer> gahh.. dbus daemon taking up 250 megs
[14:37] <JontheEchidna> anybody up for a revu? http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/qapt
[14:39] <yofel> yay, system-config-printer-kde doesn't work... again http://paste.ubuntu.com/464536/
[14:39] <yofel> (maverick)
[14:43] <shadeslayer> yofel: confirmed
[14:44] <yofel> ah, found bug 602343 :)
[14:50] <freinhard> JontheEchidna: where can i find the messagefiles for muon?
[14:51] <JontheEchidna> freinhard: It seems that there is not a messagefile yet, otherwise it would be here: http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/l10n-kde4/de/messages/playground-sysadmin/
[14:51] <JontheEchidna> there is a Messages.sh file in the source that you can use to create the template, though
[14:51] <JontheEchidna> (run extract-messages Messages.sh)
[14:52] <freinhard> lokalize needs some fancy "get message files for <kde-app>" function
[15:00] <txwikinger> Any suggestions for a package for the next bug hug day?
[15:01] <JontheEchidna> agateau: interested in a dbusmenu/global menu bar crash?
[15:01] <JontheEchidna> agateau: http://paste.ubuntu.com/464548/ Generally happens while closing docs in kate
[15:03] <freinhard> JontheEchidna: extract-messages.sh Messages.sh does nothing on muon
[15:05] <JontheEchidna> hmm
[15:06] <JontheEchidna> well, I'm not an expert myself, so I couldn't tell you what's wrong :(
[15:06] <freinhard> /usr/bin/extract-messages.sh: line 17: :w: command not found
[15:07] <freinhard> xgettext: cannot create output file "/home/freinhard/kde/src/muon/src/po/muon.pot": No such file or directory
[15:07] <CIA-33> [muon] jmthomas * 1150695 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/DetailsTabs/DependsTab.cpp Should in theory scroll to the top of the depends list after appending. Doesn't work though
[15:09] <apachelogger> mhhh
[15:10] <apachelogger> Akonadi::EntityTreeView \o/
[15:10] <JontheEchidna> freinhard: ah, mkdir po
[15:10] <JontheEchidna> then it'll work
[15:14] <freinhard> does
[15:14] <agateau> JontheEchidna: looks tasty :)
[15:14] <agateau> JontheEchidna: please report on LP
[15:14] <freinhard> JontheEchidna: where do i post the pot file?
[15:14] <JontheEchidna> agateau: against Qt or libdbusmenu-qt?
[15:14] <agateau> JontheEchidna: libdbusmenu-qt
[15:15] <JontheEchidna> freinhard: I think you'll have to talk with the kde l10n team about that. I'm not up on how things work with them
[15:16] <freinhard> narf
[15:17] <freinhard> barriers for that are defenitely too high. when translating the app takes less time than finding out how to publish your translations, something is wron.
[15:17] <JontheEchidna> it's probably just a matter of sending the .po to the german team for review
[15:18] <ScottK> Plasma-widget-menubar MIR is approved.  Would someone who has a moment and a checkout of the seeds please seed it on kubuntu-common?
[15:18] <ScottK> Maybe JontheEchidna would do it?
[15:18] <ScottK> agateau: ^^^
[15:19] <JontheEchidna> ScottK: sure
[15:19] <ScottK> FYI
[15:19] <ScottK> Thanks.
[15:19] <agateau> ScottK: great!
[15:20] <JontheEchidna> freinhard: this looks useful: http://l10n.kde.org/docs/translation-howto/
[15:20] <agateau> This FTBFS been forwarded to me by a colleague, does it ring a bell for someone? https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtscriptgenerator/+bug/600943
[15:21] <JontheEchidna> agateau: bug 606302
[15:21] <agateau> JontheEchidna: thanks
[15:22] <ScottK> agateau: Does qtscriptgenerator build-depend on the qt webkit dev package?
[15:22]  * ScottK doesn't recall the exact name.
[15:22] <agateau> ScottK: that's what I am going to suggest
[15:22] <agateau> since the split is quite recent
[15:22] <ScottK> OK
[15:22] <agateau> but the log also complains about phonon, which is a bit odd
[15:23] <ScottK> JontheEchidna complains about phonon all the time, but I don't call him odd.
[15:24] <JontheEchidna> :P
[15:31]  * ScottK notes Bug #569879 has a proposed solution and encourages people to test.
[15:44] <JontheEchidna> ScottK: any idea what this from germinate means? "? Unknown kubuntu-common package: plasma-widget-menubar"
[15:45] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: It means it's not in Main yet, so it won't see the package.  If you've seeded it, it will now show up in component mismatches so someone knows to actually promote it.
[15:45] <JontheEchidna> ok, so we just have to wait for the actual promotion now
[15:46] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: If you're messing with kubuntu-meta, would you please turn kubuntu-netbook into a transitional package to upgrade people to kubuntu-desktop?
[15:46] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: Yes.
[15:46] <JontheEchidna> sure
[15:46] <ScottK> Thanks.
[15:48] <shadeslayer> can someone take over kdenetwork? it needs to be split so that google call support can be installed without getting libavcodecs on the CD
[16:02] <shadeslayer> ScottK: poke bug 603731
[16:03] <ScottK> shadeslayer: What was the point of that?
[16:04] <shadeslayer> ScottK: point of MIR?
[16:04] <ScottK> shadeslayer: No, the point of you poking me about it.
[16:04] <shadeslayer> ScottK: well.. just wanted to let you know its been approved
[16:04] <shadeslayer> didnt see you were on the subscribers list
[16:04] <ScottK> shadeslayer: We just discussed it here not 20 minutes ago.
[16:05]  * shadeslayer checks
[16:05] <ScottK> Riddell: I assume I'm doing the release team discussion today?
[16:05] <shadeslayer> ScottK: nope.. i cant find it in logs
[16:06] <ScottK> sorry, ~45 minutes
[16:06] <shadeslayer> ahh.. didnt check that much of backlog :D
[16:07] <ScottK> No, not :D.  I find pointless poking just in case I didn't notice something an unpleasant distraction.
[16:07] <shadeslayer> ScottK: sorry...
[16:26] <Quintasan> oh god
[16:26] <Quintasan> it's 35 degrees Celsius here, feels like 40 (at least)
[16:28] <CIA-33> [ubuntuone-kde] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100716152716-ucvrit59345a9krr * src/ (8 files in 2 dirs) Welcome ubuntuone-share! I shall call this land MVP land! A headache is already approaching...
[16:29] <apachelogger> Quintasan: tell me about it
[16:29] <apachelogger> sauna feeling++
[16:29]  * apachelogger is even appropriately dressed :P
[16:34]  * ScottK hands Quintasan a nice warm blanket.
[16:38]  * apachelogger places a model/view in the middle of the channel and sets it on fire
[16:48]  * shadeslayer hands out mini air coolers to everyone,with a big fat K on top of each one
[16:51] <Quintasan> oh god
[16:51]  * Quintasan throws the blanket away
[16:52]  * ScottK has another
[16:52] <Quintasan> apachelogger: the sauna feeling is better
[16:52] <Quintasan> cuz you are almost nekkid
[16:52] <Quintasan> and this...hmm..this is fken hell on earth
[16:52] <Quintasan> it's like....hmmm....land full of pythons
[16:53] <Quintasan> apachelogger: you sure would like, wouldn't you?
[16:53] <Quintasan> apachelogger: oh, and you don't have you C++ shield with you
[16:54] <apachelogger> wow
[16:54] <apachelogger> a dream come true
[16:54] <apachelogger> now
[16:54] <apachelogger> who knows the name of the widgety that only displays directories?
[16:55] <apachelogger> aahhhhh
[16:55] <apachelogger> I needs to go
[16:55] <apachelogger> aaaahhhh
[16:55] <apachelogger> o/
[16:57] <Quintasan> \o
[17:18] <Stratford> can someone help me with this: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/464566/
[17:20] <Stratford> anyone?
[17:20] <txwikinger> what are you trying to do Stratford?
[17:22] <Stratford> trying to practice on a floppy
[17:23] <txwikinger> well.. support channels are #kubuntu or #ubuntu
[17:23] <Stratford> i've tried many of them 
[17:23] <Stratford> #ubuntu as well
[17:24] <Stratford> that seems like a private club.. :)
[17:24] <txwikinger> Well.. here you are offtopic.. This is for Kubuntu development
[17:24] <Stratford> well i guess if anyone can understand it you guys should.. :)
[17:25] <Stratford> i'm assuming a developper would know about hardware/software
[17:25] <Stratford> and this is a simple ?
[17:25] <Stratford> but i'm not getting any solutions
[17:25] <txwikinger> come over to #kubuntu and I will talk to you there
[17:25] <Stratford> ok
[17:40] <jussi__> o/
[17:43] <neversfelde> Riddell: koffice in bzr
[17:43] <jussi__> is there a kde/text equivalent of update-manager-core? Installing half of gnome isnt really what I want to do...
[17:47] <txwikinger> hi jussi__
[17:48] <jussi__> heya txwikinger!
[17:48] <jussi__> I found it
[17:48] <jussi__> sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[17:48] <jussi__> :)
[17:49] <txwikinger> yep that would work
[18:26] <CIA-33> [muon] jmthomas * 1150764 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/ (5 files) Split off functionality that could be common to two GUIs (e.g. an update-centric GUI) into a MuonMainWindow class. After 1.0 I will work on an update GUI utilizing this class.
[18:49] <CIA-33> [muon] jmthomas * 1150774 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/MuonMainWindow.cpp Re-hook up questionOccurred
[18:53] <CIA-33> [muon] jmthomas * 1150775 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/MuonMainWindow.cpp If a user cancels opening a markings file, just silently return instead of going "omg! error!"
[18:54] <maxwellian> Awww, that's a great error message though.
[18:55] <CIA-33> [muon] jmthomas * 1150777 * trunk/playground/sysadmin/muon/src/MuonMainWindow.cpp Initialize m_canExit to be on the safe side
[18:56] <JontheEchidna> well, it's not quite that awesome of an error in actuality ;)
[18:56] <JontheEchidna> and it still does give the error if you give an invalid file
[18:56] <JontheEchidna> it just silently returns if you don't give it a file, instead of blindly trying to load markings from nothing :P
[18:58] <maxwellian> Well I guess that's better then. :)
[18:58] <maxwellian> I just love the "omg".
[19:01] <sheytan_> Hi guys :)
[19:01] <sheytan_> I'm looking for a grup photo of Kubuntu Ninjas :D
[19:01] <shadeslayer> lol
[19:01] <sheytan_> does anybody have one? :D
[19:01] <shadeslayer> sheytan_: they dont exsist 
[19:01] <shadeslayer> :P
[19:01] <sheytan_> Shadeslayer ? :D
[19:02] <sheytan_> just few dev guys
[19:02] <sheytan_> need for the home page :D
[19:02] <shadeslayer> hehe
[19:02] <shadeslayer> i think there was one on Riddell's blog
[19:02] <shadeslayer> one sec
[19:02] <sheytan_> ok :D
[19:03] <shadeslayer> sheytan_: http://people.canonical.com/~jriddell/kubuntu-team-uds-maverick.jpg
[19:03] <shadeslayer> you could use that
[19:03] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: btw UDS happens once every year or twice?
[19:03] <sheytan_> shadeslayer thanks :)
[19:04]  * shadeslayer notices that jussi looks huge
[19:04] <shadeslayer> same goes for rgreening
[19:05] <JontheEchidna> shadeslayer: twice
[19:05] <nixternal> rgreening is a beast of a man, and one hell of a snorer :p
[19:05] <shadeslayer> JontheEchidna: and the second one happens when? November or December?
[19:06] <JontheEchidna> one of those two
[19:06] <JontheEchidna> probably november
[19:06] <shadeslayer> omg..
[19:07] <shadeslayer> then i can come,*if* i get selected :P
[19:07] <shadeslayer> huge if there...
[19:16] <shadeslayer> yeah.. will definitely apply :D
[19:20] <neversfelde> is someone working on a new choqok package for Maverick?
[19:21] <shadeslayer> neversfelde: i can...
[19:21] <shadeslayer> if no one else is...
[19:21] <ari-tczew> is anybody going to merge konversation?
[19:21] <neversfelde> shadeslayer: I already had a look at it, I only want to make sure, that no one else started with it
[19:21] <shadeslayer> ari-tczew: its up for merge? as in debdiff uploaded?
[19:22] <shadeslayer> neversfelde: oh,ok :D
[19:22] <ari-tczew> shadeslayer: MoM shows konversation as mergeable
[19:22] <shadeslayer> lemme see
[19:23] <shadeslayer> ari-tczew: ill take it up
[19:23] <shadeslayer> im practically free
[19:23] <ari-tczew> nice
[19:23]  * shadeslayer cant stand any more docbook ftbfs
[19:24] <shadeslayer> brr.. new install.. have to install pbuilder first :P
[19:26]  * maxwellian is sad that his machine is too crappy to set up virtualization for developing.
[19:29] <ari-tczew> shadeslayer: could you take a look also on package rekonq from main ?
[19:30] <shadeslayer> ari-tczew: sure, rekonq is my favourite package :D
[19:30] <ari-tczew> oo, great
[19:31] <shadeslayer> :D
[19:31] <shadeslayer> im with rekonq upstream ;) 
[19:32] <shadeslayer> ari-tczew: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/49755201/buildlog_ubuntu-maverick-amd64.binutils-z80_2.20.1-1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz 
[19:32] <shadeslayer> ari-tczew: is that what i think it is? ( no source tarball )
[19:34] <shadeslayer> ari-tczew: any other packages on your radar?
[19:35] <ari-tczew> shadeslayer: why you ask?
[19:35] <shadeslayer> ari-tczew: as in,any other kde* packages that need merging? :P
[19:35] <shadeslayer> that you know off
[19:35] <shadeslayer> s/off/of
[19:36] <ari-tczew> shadeslayer: only kadu which is done, feel free to merging other kde-related packages.
[19:36] <shadeslayer> ok :)
[19:36] <shadeslayer> ari-tczew: any idea on the build log?
[19:36] <shadeslayer> ( the one i just posted )
[19:37] <ari-tczew> shadeslayer: current version has got orig smaller than previously: now 175 bytes, previously 200 bytes
[19:38] <ari-tczew> you should ask slangasek for this as he is a latest uploader
[19:38] <shadeslayer> bhargav: ^^
[19:40] <shadeslayer> k3b is up for merge too :D
[20:04] <alvin> Since thos latest K3b updates, it claims it can burn at 700x :-) Go K3b!
[21:01] <shadeslayer> alvin: :D
[21:37] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: poke poke
[23:12] <apachelogger> omg
[23:12] <apachelogger> why does time progress so quickly today
[23:12] <apachelogger> oh dear oh dear
[23:29]  * apachelogger recons jontheechidna is now friends with kde-l10n \\o/
[23:32] <neversfelde> apachelogger: do you still use icecc?
[23:32] <apachelogger> no, I only have 1 machine currently
[23:32] <apachelogger> not going to change any time soon either :S
[23:33] <neversfelde> ok, seems that there is a problem with the hook and I cannot figure out what happens